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Title: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: Timaif on January 25, 2019, 12:08:38 PM I am simple new forum user and it is hard for me to find exact topic in exact forum. I am from russia, and my english is not very well, so it is hard for me to give my point of view and to prove you wrong..
I am not very active forum user, but I know that you have to have REAL PROOFS, not only thoughts of Alex_Sr!! I do not see any real proofs, except thoughts of Alex_Sr!! I am exchanging my own merits with people who helps me and I can do with them ANYTHING I WANT! It is easy for English-speaking users to judge another audience without evidence, because these people know that people like me cannot defend their position. The forum was created as a decentralized platform and I should have the right to explain my position to a person who speaks the same language as me, I have no such rights... Let's imagine that any one of you was painted unfairly as me without any proofs based only on thoughts and guesses and you have to defend your position as an ordinary user from Russian. I can give you the same proofs about anyone of you, anyone who send smerit to anyone can be painted only because of this??? Is it proof of something??? I can show such proofs about anyone of you! All users are equal! I ask to remove red trust from me, cuz Alex_Sr did not give any real proofs, only empty words. http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1548417136/d72d1134/25103689_m.png (http://vfl.ru/fotos/d72d113425103689.html) Alex_Sr https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1762404 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1762404) Nikisa https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2154195 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2154195) chimk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1202061 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1202061) suchmoon https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=234771 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=234771) esmanthra https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1764764 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1764764) MO-COIN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2101883 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2101883) Foxpup https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=55384 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=55384) o_e_l_e_o https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1188543 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1188543) Schwarzenberg https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1447278 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1447278) pa1nxgod https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1991630 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1991630) imhoneer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=986781 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=986781) Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: AlehandroTheGreat on January 25, 2019, 12:15:38 PM The same shit mate, Lauda and her puppets give me red trust with no reason, without ANY PROOF, and after I proved that all this shit is shit, I am still red..... This forum is diying cuz that puppet masters are draining it ...... :-[ :-[ :-[
It will be so happy day, when Lauda and all her mults will be banned.... Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on January 25, 2019, 12:23:01 PM I am exchanging my own merits with people who helps me and I can do with them ANYTHING I WANT! This is wrong. Merit aren't meant to be exchange between users, sure you can send a user that merited you merits for a quality post he made (backscratching) but sending him/her merit for low quality posts just because he/she merited you can be considered as merit abuse which is frown at my DT members. You're free to give merit to who ever you want but that shouldn't mean you should abuse the system. Merits are to be given to quality posts not exchange for worthless posts Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: mikeywith on January 25, 2019, 12:30:08 PM please start a new thread or move this thread to reputation, do not complain about the whole system gang bullshit because it's not going to do you any good.
complain about Alex's feedback on your profile , present your facts, let him present his. if the community feels that you are innocent they will either advise alex to remove his rating or counter it with positive feedback. you do not need to be fluent in English, just tell us why do you think Alex gave you a wrong feedback. Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: Jet Cash on January 25, 2019, 12:37:24 PM I am exchanging my own merits with people who helps me and I can do with them ANYTHING I WANT! NO - You are awarded merits as a recognition for you forum posting, and you are entrusted with sMerits to award in a fashion that will help the forum. Exchanging merits is a breach of this trust. I was tempted to give you another red tag, but I put you on ignore instead to ensure that I would not contribute to your abuse of the merit system. Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: Qulian on January 25, 2019, 12:38:41 PM Alex_Sr speaks Russian. So stop complaining about not being able to explain in English and PM him in Russian. If he says no after your explanation then you'll have your answer.
Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: Jet Cash on January 25, 2019, 12:42:48 PM Why don't you guys work on learning English, if you are gong to be active in an English forum.
I want to convey the fact that each person must decide for himself what he likes and what does not. He appears to like posts by people who merit him,rather than basing the award on post quality - and this is wrong, and destructive for the forum. Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: Timaif on January 25, 2019, 12:44:32 PM I am exchanging my own merits with people who helps me and I can do with them ANYTHING I WANT! This is wrong. Merit aren't meant to be exchange between users, sure you can send a user that merited you merits for a quality post he made (backscratching) but sending him/her merit for low quality posts just because he/she merited you can be considered as merit abuse which is frown at my DT members. You're free to give merit to who ever you want but that shouldn't mean you should abuse the system. Merits are to be given to quality posts not exchange for worthless posts I sent merits only for qualitative posts. Information stated in them can be useful to other participants. http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1548420251/283078a2/25104556_m.png (http://vfl.ru/fotos/283078a225104556.html) Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: Jet Cash on January 25, 2019, 12:54:37 PM Yes, you are right ... just do not forget that the forum is the users who are oxygen for the forum. No the users are air, and some are oxygen, and some are carbon monoxide. A few are hydrogen cyanide. Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: Timaif on January 25, 2019, 12:57:25 PM All actions of these people are contrary to the rules of the forum, thus undermining the reputation of the forum as a free platform for communication! A friend gave me an account, and since he didn’t remember he didn’t have a Bitcoin address, we decided to change it, and here we were immediately painted! Rules of the forum is not prohibited to transfer the account to another user! And I was entrusted with stealing your account, this is not fair! The forum does not serve as the platform for communication and exchange of experience in cryptocurrency any more. On it there were corrupted groups which violate all rules. And it is very sad. Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: Timaif on January 25, 2019, 01:12:28 PM please start a new thread or move this thread to reputation, do not complain about the whole system gang bullshit because it's not going to do you any good. complain about Alex's feedback on your profile , present your facts, let him present his. if the community feels that you are innocent they will either advise alex to remove his rating or counter it with positive feedback. you do not need to be fluent in English, just tell us why do you think Alex gave you a wrong feedback. How to me to move a subject to reputation? Alex's did not provide any proofs except the conjectures. I provided just the same proofs on it. Why in that case to it not to paint a trust? I am simple new forum user and I try to conform to the rules. There are no bases for change of my trust. Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: jackg on January 25, 2019, 01:53:16 PM No the users are air, and some are oxygen, and some are carbon monoxide. A few are hydrogen cyanide. I'm nitrogen (necessary to keep the oxygen healthy) 😂 I am not very good at chemical elements, but I hope that you understand me, what I really wanted to say by this, and just transferred to a joke. Yeah its more of a metaphor. Cyanide is poisonous along with carbon monoxide. Oxygen is healthy in the right concentrations. Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: Timaif on January 25, 2019, 01:58:18 PM Yes, you are right ... just do not forget that the forum is the users who are oxygen for the forum. No the users are air, and some are oxygen, and some are carbon monoxide. A few are hydrogen cyanide. Whom do you consider yourself? On yours it is worthy posts for receiving merits? This impudent abuses of merits! http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1548424275/3e8e0ee1/25105404_m.png (http://vfl.ru/fotos/3e8e0ee125105404.html) http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1548424275/e6eb40ed/25105403_m.png (http://vfl.ru/fotos/e6eb40ed25105403.html) Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: suchmoon on January 25, 2019, 02:03:45 PM ~ You posted some words, a diagram, and a list of of users. What does this have to do with anything? If you're having a problem with specific facts presented in Alex_Sr's feedback or reference, please explain that. It seems that your account has been tagged for merit farming. While I generally disagree with using merit send/receive transactions as proof of malfeasance, in this case there is much more to this. The merits originating from two hacked accounts, and then distributed to a small group of new accounts registered around the same time so Alex_Sr is clearly on to something here. Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: jackg on January 25, 2019, 02:14:22 PM @Timaif, you've lost me on that last one...
Why would it not be a constructive post? They put in effort to do extra research to a post and included a link to quite a funny video from what I remember. Maybe this is why you're red because you can't cite trust in yourself from others as you attack them... (something to consider). Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: Timaif on January 25, 2019, 02:16:48 PM ~ You posted some words, a diagram, and a list of of users. What does this have to do with anything? If you're having a problem with specific facts presented in Alex_Sr's feedback or reference, please explain that. It seems that your account has been tagged for merit farming. While I generally disagree with using merit send/receive transactions as proof of malfeasance, in this case there is much more to this. The merits originating from two hacked accounts, and then distributed to a small group of new accounts registered around the same time so Alex_Sr is clearly on to something here. I am a new user of a forum, and I am not very active. I know nothing about the cracked accounts. But I know that for charge there have to be real proofs. If to argue as Alex_Sr, then he abuses merits and created or participates in Merit farm. I consider that my name is soiled unfairly and I want to return the trust. Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: Timaif on January 25, 2019, 02:20:06 PM @Timaif, you've lost me on that last one... Why would it not be a constructive post? They put in effort to do extra research to a post and included a link to quite a funny video from what I remember. Maybe this is why you're red because you can't cite trust in yourself from others as you attack them... (something to consider). In that case all posts with references to video have to receive merits in such size. And you forgot, there is one more screen. In it there is no research or the reference to video. Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: jackg on January 25, 2019, 02:38:38 PM @Timaif, you've lost me on that last one... Why would it not be a constructive post? They put in effort to do extra research to a post and included a link to quite a funny video from what I remember. Maybe this is why you're red because you can't cite trust in yourself from others as you attack them... (something to consider). In that case all posts with references to video have to receive merits in such size. And you forgot, there is one more screen. In it there is no research or the reference to video. Yes there is? So now youve pulled someone up for badly meriting a post and not even read that post? What is going on here? Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: suchmoon on January 25, 2019, 03:12:25 PM I am a new user of a forum, and I am not very active. I know nothing about the cracked accounts. But I know that for charge there have to be real proofs. If to argue as Alex_Sr, then he abuses merits and created or participates in Merit farm. I consider that my name is soiled unfairly and I want to return the trust. You're accusing some random users of receiving merits for posts that you think are not worth merits. How is that helping your case? It's not even proper whataboutism. Your red tag is not merely for receiving merits but for being part of an account farm that seems to have hacked two high-rank accounts. If you didn't hack them then the right thing for you to do would be to tell us who did you buy this account from. Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: Foxpup on January 25, 2019, 06:01:41 PM I'm not quite understanding what you're complaining about, or why my name is on your list, but I guess you're angry about merits? I think you should try to explain your accusations more clearly.
http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1548424275/e6eb40ed/25105403_m.png (http://vfl.ru/fotos/e6eb40ed25105403.html) It's a joke, though the humour is based on wordplay, so I don't expect a non-native English speaker such as yourself to "get it". But you do understand the concept of jokes, right? Don't they have jokes in Russia? In any case, post containing funny jokes often earn merits, particular when posted in humour-oriented threads. There's nothing untoward going on here.Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: suchmoon on January 25, 2019, 07:32:34 PM Don't they have jokes in Russia? In Russia, jokes have them. SCNR. Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: Timaif on January 27, 2019, 10:40:02 AM I'm not quite understanding what you're complaining about, or why my name is on your list, but I guess you're angry about merits? I think you should try to explain your accusations more clearly. http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1548424275/e6eb40ed/25105403_m.png (http://vfl.ru/fotos/e6eb40ed25105403.html) It's a joke, though the humour is based on wordplay, so I don't expect a non-native English speaker such as yourself to "get it". But you do understand the concept of jokes, right? Don't they have jokes in Russia? In any case, post containing funny jokes often earn merits, particular when posted in humour-oriented threads. There's nothing untoward going on here.I consider that there are no bases for my red trust. According to the logic of Alex_Sr almost all participants of this forum can make red a trust. I want to show the absurdity of the proofs provided to them. Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: Timaif on January 27, 2019, 10:49:08 AM I am a new user of a forum, and I am not very active. I know nothing about the cracked accounts. But I know that for charge there have to be real proofs. If to argue as Alex_Sr, then he abuses merits and created or participates in Merit farm. I consider that my name is soiled unfairly and I want to return the trust. You're accusing some random users of receiving merits for posts that you think are not worth merits. How is that helping your case? It's not even proper whataboutism. Your red tag is not merely for receiving merits but for being part of an account farm that seems to have hacked two high-rank accounts. If you didn't hack them then the right thing for you to do would be to tell us who did you buy this account from. I already said that I know nothing about the cracked accounts. I know that only communication to the purse address can form the basis for a red trust. The proofs provided from Alex_Sr are not enough for my red trust. These are only his guesses without the facts and communication on purses. Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: cryptohunter on January 27, 2019, 02:21:31 PM Yes, you are right ... just do not forget that the forum is the users who are oxygen for the forum. No the users are air, and some are oxygen, and some are carbon monoxide. A few are hydrogen cyanide. Jet cash is scared of the real hydrogen cyanide. Present some facts demonstrating wrongdoing/lying and he makes excuses not to read it as usual. Present some facts demonstrating someone is a devious sock puppet racist troll sig spammer and jet cash will tell you they are a great member and nice guy. Just a wussy, best to factor that into any response he gives and give him a pass. Some people just need to be part of something however corrupt and dirty it is. Fear is a terrible thing. Want evidence ... just ask Title: Re: Unfairly painted a trust Post by: Alex_Sr on January 28, 2019, 07:46:46 PM I ask to remove red trust from me, cuz Alex_Sr did not give any real proofs, only empty words. Need a proof? You're welcome: 1. Account Timaif is one of a large farm accounts. This farm was registered June 06, 2018 from 08:41:09 PM to 09:26:20 PM Blonelly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189253) Samitaill (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189255) Veyladid (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189258) Jamilowi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189269) Zrikambe (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189273) Tyrdyanie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189281) Walinex (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189287) Cleyori (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189293) Meletix (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189297) Timaif (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189298) Enataramel (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189302) Halinsely (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189306) Marainoli (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189307) Kiroyd (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189312) Tistergis (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189315) Kanatanex (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189319) Johaneex (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189321) Celandra (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189322) Darliex (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189335) Vandilis (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189338) Dyleil (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189340) Milinex (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189345) Talionsti (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189349) Joronso (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189353) Paorain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189355) Sabeliziar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189359) Code: Name: Posts: Activity: Merit: Position: Date Registered: 2. All accounts of this farm stuffed activity in the "Miscellaneous" section of the Russian local Board. Posts were filled with the same accounts in the same order with an interval of 20-30 seconds. All posts are written as a template. One-line post. https://web.archive.org/web/20190128192233/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2989833.msg41136515 https://web.archive.org/web/20190128193119/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3709398.440 https://web.archive.org/web/20190128193546/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2509476.msg41164654 https://web.archive.org/web/20190129062634/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2169949.msg41165958 https://b.radikal.ru/b25/1901/91/201655a7a23e.png (https://radikal.ru) https://c.radikal.ru/c12/1901/15/893be2bffbfb.png (https://radikal.ru) https://b.radikal.ru/b34/1901/7e/ba23068e34a2.png (https://radikal.ru) https://b.radikal.ru/b35/1901/b0/f2a718337a4a.png (https://radikal.ru) 3. About mutual overflow of merits I wrote earlier. https://c.radikal.ru/c06/1811/d6/069488958551.jpg (https://radikal.ru) Sum up. What is the probability that accounts registered in one day will accidentally write posts in the same order, in the same topics, with the same interval? The probability of randomness of this event is zero! P.S. Thank you for bringing it up. This gave me the opportunity to examine your abuses in more detail! Other accounts of this farm will also receive negative feedbacks from me! https://web.archive.org/web/20190129063027/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2169949.1640 https://web.archive.org/web/20190129063330/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2509476.800 https://web.archive.org/web/20190129063607/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3563455.msg40944830%23msg40944830 |
