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http://prntscr.com/mee0lw , his telegram username from PM is riverons
http://prntscr.com/mee158 , username riverons name R V
http://prntscr.com/mee09e, proof of my transactions
http://prntscr.com/mee4a5, and he is gone

i can safely say that all account sellers are scammers!!!

do not deal with this guy, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=840084

Luckily it's only $42.

this guy showed me his selly, just how many people he can scam?

i have been scammed countless times in my life, from MLM to this...

Every transactions on btctalk for now will be through third party escrow!

guys like this is a toxic to this forum!
More and more will not buy and sell from this forum anymore!

Update:
https://prnt.sc/mee158 He changed his username from riverons to riverans
http://prntscr.com/megwgm

now this J account is http://prntscr.com/megv71 riverons?
http://prntscr.com/meh2ls (the new account BS chat)

you think you can escape now?

so you scam 2 others before me?

http://prntscr.com/mehcnk (selly transactions)

this is the result of not having any real customers feedback! I wonder how many customers have been scammed.
To them, maybe if it's bigger amount then they will report! Maybe not all customers want to waste time. creating this kind of thread evidence takes lots of time.

And my real customers feedback showing as untrusted? Well done admins.
DTs have not even purchased anything from him!
Look, 2 customers were scammed by him because of this trust system,
and thats just 6 transactions. How many total transactions you have?
Each small amount will add up to a bigger one!


Even now DT tells me to leave the forums when i'm trying to help to improve the system.
This trust system is really messed up!

What did you expect?

Id suggest you open a scam acussation on the correct subforum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

However I'll always advice using an escrow on any deal with anyone . Rather be safe than sorry.

there are too many scammers in this forums...
crazy!!!

i don't know why he want to scam $42?
to get more red trust?

I do not blindly follow the trust left by the DTs. I do manual review. There are some legit reasons to avoid this user. Some are...

Several times
http://archive.is/LxTxa
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086031.0
http://archive.vn/4B8am

Over all, the user does not value the community value. You do not expect this guy to be trust worthy.

Shocking. OP, have you seen any bears shitting in the woods that you would like to report here?

I know VINSIN is everyone's favorite bogey man account seller, but you are a little bit light on actual proof of anything, as far as I can see.

As a matter of interest, why do you need green trust on the account you want to buy?
I like your (translated) name btw.

https://i.imgur.com/wcQZ87h.png

He probably needs to buy more booze.  Not joking.

On the other hand, I don't see solid proof that he actually scammed anyone here.  If my memory serves me correctly, this is the second thread I've seen claiming VINSIN scammed someone without actually proving it.  And if it was actually VINSIN who scammed OP, luckily it wasn't for that much.  Some people have to pay for a much more expensive education before they learn to 1) check feedback, and 2) use escrow.

Edit:  Ah, OP was trying to buy an account it seems.  Well, that's what you get.

i mean, so far the red trusts are given from DT members, so i think it's quite unfair.
you need real buyers review! And i can say that he is a scammer!!!

Yes, i agree, do not blindly trust the review given by DT. They maybe unfair.


Having trust is better right?

and the translations is incorrect btw.

Better only for scamming, because that trust isn't yours.

i have added more SS to prove that he is a scammer! i am a genuine buyer.

wait, how do you even know i will use the green trust account for scamming?
I think it's unfair to generalize. Thats the problem with DT trust system.
It's just wrong!

I want to earn honest income here. the problem is people like VINSIN who is a toxic to this forum.

is there even anything wrong with buying an account?
To earn like some side income?

You don't need green trust to "earn", or - more importantly - to contribute positively to the forum. You don't need a purchased account for that at all.

VINSIN already has red trust up the wazoo so you're not gonna make any difference here.


Yes, it's wrong. Get a real job. You can't buy one of those, can you? I wonder why.  ::)

hello! you think now the job market is very easy?

And that's not a good valid reason,
this forum is flooded by newbies like me who cant even take part in signature campaigns,
because merit system is unfair also.
some are real and some are fake,
i can guarantee if it keeps on like this, this forum alexa ranking will drop below 50k soon!
The thing that is keeping this forum is really the founder!

I think the trust system really needs to be moderated!
It should be real genuine buyers that are eligible to give feedback.

You can buy a copper membership to be able to wear a signature. Also, to earn merit, you can start making interesting, helpful, or entertaining posts. I am a merit source and I have done my best to distribute my merits around. There are 123 merit sources and many people who have earned merit and thus have some merit to distribute themselves. However, it appears that you want to go out and buy an account and take a shortcut. That's like faking a resume with someone else's credentials. It's not trustworthy behavior at all.

Instead of conforming to the forum's rules and standards, you're whining about it like a child and expecting the rules (and the forum) to accomodate you.  No one is forcing you to be here, and bitcointalk isn't some work-from-home employment service.  You'll get no respect here for trying to take the easy path to owning a higher-ranked account, and your opinions on how things work here only reflect your ignorance.

If you don't like it here, leave.  It's that simple.  Bitcointalk isn't going to bend to your will just because you got scammed and negged for trying to buy an account.  

right, you got the easy way before the rule changes right?

You DT members will just gang up against us newbies.
Thats the fact.

Wait wut? That's not me on telegram bro, dude you spoke with a scammer, my name on telegram is J.


MY USERNAME IS RIVERONS and I always use only J as name. Check my other screens

edit: I found the telegram discussion with this user here: https://gyazo.com/4346c9ff38d587d53600c72fd7b2bb82

He not even replied to my messages.  I will just ignore this topic. This happens when you're stupid

edit2: any buyer that knows me, know that i sell jr. at 40$ and members are 60$ minimum lol

edit3: On discord I usel Jlol and J also on skype.

Anyone that uses a different name is a scammer or just to impersonate a red trusted membere here (this sounded funny for me)

You and your BS.
I already SS our PM.

you are lucky that there are no real customers feedback! Until now....
i was tricked.. given the illusions that you maybe unfairly treated by DTs,
but with real customers feedback, u can't get away anymore.

Thats why i say with this trust system, more people will get scammed. Unless real customers showed up to give feedback.

What easy way did I get?  I was tagging account sellers and scammers well before I got on DT2.  I was airdropped 1000 merits when the system was implemented, but I earned the rest fair and square.  The way I see it, we both started as complete newbies and I chose a different path than you.  I didn't try to buy my way into a higher rank, I didn't try to buy trust, and I didn't buy merits.

You're just lazy and resentful that you got caught.  The problem isn't with the system; it's with you.

I'm not going to defend Vinsin.  He readily admits to trading in accounts, and I don't trust account sellers.  Even if they have no ill intent themselves, they are promoting and enabling those who may have nefarious intentions.  But, in Vinsin's defense he's always been upfront about his dealings in accounts, it's his business of choice around here.  Scamming folks wouldn't be good for business, at least not for very long.

I agree with tmfp, your "evidence" that Vinsin scammed you is quite thin.  I'd guess it's another scammer who's using Vinsin's reputation as an account seller to lure suckers.  Again, just a guess.

Can you tell us how you initiated communication with the person who scammed you?

Dude that's not me. I texted you again on telegram from my usrename.... i am saying again my telegram username is riverons

ad nauseum...

That's some pretty quickly formulated opinions for someone whose account isn't even 72 hours old.
The absurdity of it all is the bizarre reasoning behind your ranting.
You appear to be suggesting that you (allegedly) got ripped off because the fact that VINSIN had multiple negative trust from DT members actually made you trust him more, because DT trust isn't to be trusted....
Who tricked you?
Anyway, so that was an incorrect perception, you were wrong.
So what do you do? Double down.....

I have contacted him based on the telegram he posted in his thread.

OP can you say that this screenshot is real? https://gyazo.com/4346c9ff38d587d53600c72fd7b2bb82

This is the real me, I got quite a good reputation in account selling, so I am actually offending by someone saying that i scammed him for 40$ lol.


Anyhow I never ask for money first, most of the time I ask for half first and half after. If you don't send the other half usually I lock the accounts, so for sure it ISN'T ME.

As the last screenshot shows I texted him 2 days ago on telegram. Here is a proof of me sending to him my username on telegram 2 days ago

https://gyazo.com/4a4d4e82792ac4598bd36ff2f772321e

Tho, he has posted a screenshot of today asking me about my telegram. Here's another proof of my telegram username that is still used. I think I posted quite a few times some screenshots with my telegram  name.

edit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103246.msg49468256#msg49468256 here you can see that i use J

Aside the OP making any report, it a glaring situation because the accuser ought to see that Vinsin have been tagged by alot of reputable user of this forum. Besides, even the accuser is also a scammer because he was trying to buy an account and what the moderator believes is that account farming encourage spamming of the forum.
Buy copper member as you're advised.

Wait what? Buying/selling accounts ain't forbidden by forum rules lol

edit: Don't worry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQcUyhoxTg

The reaper will come for all of us

It's "discouraged" though. That it was the trust system is all about. "Scamming" isn't moderated either. How do you think we should deal with account selling that is discouraged? A slap on the wrist meme? :D

https://media1.tenor.com/images/d89c390a38bb0d1872bbbd2a9db3146e/tenor.gif?itemid=10398171

are you kidding me? so you telling me you are buying from him if i dont tagged him as scam?
Look, the PM already showed clearly that it's him! you can't change username.

dude, riverons is my telegram username, that's sure! just texted you again! Stop it! you were scammed by a different person lol

yeah really funny pic, i know it for some time, anyhow you're right i am well aware of the problems that might occure due to account selling and i am feeling so sad almost to lose my faith in humanity.

but what should I do? i bought for 0.7 btc a few years ago so many btc accounts that i have to sell, and what about all those folks texting me to sell to them their accounts every day !? better for me to buy their accs instead of scamming for doing fast money, well you can say that the buyers will be scammers...thats another subject thats sad

note i am getting drunk, i might avoid to reply to this topic tonight.

op. sorry dude, you just traded with the wrong person lol, you should trade with me, not with different people, at least reply to my pm on telegram lol

look at the SS already, you can't hide https://prnt.sc/mee158

you want to show that u have 2 accounts? stop scamming people!

dude, that's not me, it's so idiot someone to use 2 initials instead of 1  ;D ;D ;D

believe me, not replying to this topic could do me more good than replying , it's good you got me drunk tonight, but it's not ok what you're doing

i still don't think you're someone from my competition

https://prnt.sc/mee158 you change your username from riverons to riverans?
http://prntscr.com/megwgm

now this account is http://prntscr.com/megv71 riverons?

you think you can escape now?

so you scam 2 others before me?

http://prntscr.com/mehcnk (selly transactions)

you cant escape already.

this is the result of not having any real customers feedback!
All is DTs feedbacks.

LAST COMMENT. if you would be nice on telegram or even reply to my messages you could have now for free a sr. member. now fuck off

you posted personal emails of people scammed by this scammer, most probably. PRIVACY, PRIVACY, PRIVACY. scammers should die, fuders also, including yourself (suicide is the best option, you fucking pissed me off)

try and scream to anyone you want. this is shit already

anyone can use inspect element

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, huh?

what you want to do now? u have anymore evidence?

i don't need anymore accounts from you!
its your sally account VINSIN! scammed by you?

U want to bribe me with free account to delete this thread?
No way!! you can give me a red trust with that new account.

I cant trust you.

You can scam other customers before me, but this time i have plenty of proof to show.

cryptohunter, are you bored?

what hunter? I'm not here to earn trust by reporting scammers like you because i got red trust for that, I just want to participate in signature campaigns. I feel that trust is now not needed anymore in this forum!

As i said, this trust system is a total joke!
I am helping the DTs but they asked me to leave this forum.
That's how they treat us newbies.

I can guarantee that this system, if continue, will scam more people!
No real customers feedback at all.

be frank, how many customers you have scammed before me? DTs don't know that!
They think that this trust system is perfect!

cryptohunter why are so nuts? stop pm'ing me

i'm not even PMing you,
see the DTs can't answer and you, my friend, have not answered us how many customers have you scammed?

I think you can put him on your ignore to avoid pm from not a desiderated person but I'm not sure about it.

Just have to go to profile/ personal message options and add the name to the ignorelist.

false accusation... mods check this out and red trust this liar. Never sent him a pm ever.

what did my pm say... post it here if it is real.

okay, i thought vinsin is referring to me.

Vinsin is obviously confused and casting groundless allegations at one of both of us. Perhaps he needs to explain himself.