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The main idea of crowdfunding is for investors to pull their monies together to support the launching of a project. Unfortunately people join ICOs as traders not investors so the moment the coin is being listed, they quickly dump them without even waiting for the project to launch any of their products, destroying the price of the coin. Now these same people will come and create a thread here that ICOs are dead. In fact crypto is not dead, we are actually killing it.

Is your main idea to support the project or just to make profit from the bonuses and go your way?

the estimation is that investors start buying when in pre-sale and the price is still cheap and when it is launched into the market exchange, of course the value goes up and can get profit. while traders who start trading when the token has been launched into the market exchange, of course the purchase price is different from the investor who starts buying when crowdfunding.

Crypto is far from being killed so don't think that we're going to that point. The idea of crowdfunding came early and those successful projects were funded appropriately. But failure is already there and not every project that held ICO/crowdfunding became successful.
I don't join any ICO but if there will be an interesting, I'll support but you can't deny the fact of having some profit.

People normally support projects basically to make some extra profits from what they initially invested. Crowdfunding is designed to be a means for projects to raise funds to support their projects and also to give the general public of the crypto space the opportunity to invest into the project through the purchase of their crypto coin or token. Crowdfunding in the crypto space is usually seen as investment avenue  for  people. I only participate in crowdfunding of projects with promising improvements and advancement to the crypto space.

That's right, for ICOs who really succeed in raising funds but the price of coins or their tokens are destroyed a lot due to traders who enter ICO as short-term investors open to long-term investors. They take advantage of discounts or bonuses from pre-ICO and ICO purchases that can get tens of percent bonus. But it's always blamed for bounty hunters, even though their share is only around 2% - 3% of the total tokens sold

It's not always the bounty hunter, the real thing to blame is the admin of those ICO project. The down fall of the project start on internal and not those bounty hunters who only want a real money than it's alternative coins.

first,, its depends on what kind of project is,,
if i believe the project is good for long term investments,, for sure i will investing in the project
i will do my own research in all aspect before investing,,

I think most of them not really support the project, as a investor it's not their fault, everyone can decided to dump the coin early or hold it looking for better future, all of us is talking about investment and money, but I won't dump the coin because I looking for it's become successful in the future, that's why I'll choose to investing in some potential project.

Is that some sort of an ICO? Crowdfunding system is like an Initial coin offering where investors are buying coins then withdraw that in time where its market is good enough.

Every investors join a crowd sale for the sole purpose of making profits
Some investors prefer to wait on the long term profit by not dumping on exchange
While short term investors dump upon listing of token

But, if it is a good project with working product, it will increase higher in price, no matter the level of dump

1st of all: Trust and give believe to the project so they are motivated to perform their task and achieves goals

2nd of course is to make some profits there, its like PRE IPO or we called it the "early investor" where you could make good gains if the project succeed

Perhaps many ICO members do not position themselves as traders. They expect the asset to grow immediately to half the listing. If this does not happen, they sell to buy an asset in another project. In 2017, it often happened that a pump started immediately after listing. Apparently, many investors live in 2017 in this sense ;D.

This situation is based on market conditions. If investors see the market very well, most people will choose to hold it instead of selling it.

What about scam ICOs? That's not the only problem facing icos this days ,the problem of dumpers can't be control and its left for developers to find a solution out but seriously what is so bad about people dumping there tokens? Cryptocurrency is freedom right?so everyone has right to do whatever they like with there tokens ,if the project is a good one then it will survive the dump ,my advice is developers should stop wasting time launching crappy projects it will always fail

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usually I became a participant in the crodfunding in several ICO projects because I wanted to benefit and wanted to grow the assets that I had and wanted to help the project platform to raise funds.

You are totally right about this. People who want to invest in the project will be harmed by people who want to make small profits. The crypto market has recently been the place where everyone is trying to make a profit without distinguishing the project. Therefore, the projects that will be valued very much cannot be damaged by buying or selling.

Depends on the project and their market. Currently, I don't see any projects that interests me more.

I'm not participating in the crowdfunding since there are so many times I should waste. Rather than investing, I just could make a profit while buying the coin once it hit exchange.

I participate in a crowdfund after doing research and finding out their product, how the product will worth
Their roadmap and achievements, their partners and more importantly the total supply and its allocation

My guess is that when you write "crowdfunding" you mean ICO ..?
The cryptocurrency market is growing very fast and we are still at the beginning of this development. I think that many investments made now can bring a very large profit in the future.

Because I'd like to develope future. As for example, I see that a future after decentralized exchanges. And I'm more than sure that price of their tokens, will be much higher. For example DexAge ICO. Because decentralized exchanges, are much better for crypto than centralized!

I will pick the second option. Because from what i see from ICO first to be trend until now, there are no project that really serious on their roadmap. And for price, they not really think about it as long they list it on market.

because if you lucky, when you participated in some ico sale crowdfunding, especially when pre sale stage, you will get a lot of offer such as discount or bonus, then if that project was successfull and the original price of that token become double or triple, you will be rich for sure.

You definitely got points to enlighten many people here but unfortunately I am not sure how many people will be making use of this discussion. Because, most people here are just focusing on making momentary money rather than looking for long-term sustaining benefits. This is the reason they are simply participating into any ICO and when tokens are getting listed in exchanges, they are simply dumping and then moving on. Literally they are killing of the concept of crowdfunding.

I believe if people here will be taking time to analyse the potential of a project then definitely they will not dump on listing. They do not take time to analyse the projects hence they are not waiting for projects to grow to get them the maximum benefits.

Crypto investors are missing out both finding good projects and making use of them for long term term with maximum benefits but making the whole ICO industry suffering just due to their ignorance on how to make use of the real meaning of crowdfunding. I guess proper education on awareness may bring good changes.

Many people enter into crowfunding with the wrong mindset. They think participating in an ICO crowdfund means getting a high return on investment after a few months. It does not work like this. I can't blame them though as the crazy bull run of 2017 caused investors to have this poor mindset.

I like to support projects that I believe in, although it has brought me mostly losses. Even the coins that I got in the bounty I try not to sell, the projects should grow and show what they can do, the main thing is not to stumble on the scam.

Let's be honest, a majority of people here is after profits. Sure a project can be revolutionize on paper but it's just an idea until fully executed.

Everyone in this crypto space has their own free will to either sell or hold their ICO tokens. But honestly, dumping your coins at a very cheap price right after listing is not a nice approach.

The main idea of crowdfunding is to support a project towards realization of its goals but many investors invest in ICOs for their own personal gains and that is why they quickly dump their tokens right after listing.

Because they do not care about the project itself. The main goal is to make the most possible amount of money. It does not matter in what project to invest in, the aim is clear. Thats why the market is suffering at the moment.

It is kinda confusing from the subject title and the question about making the token's price. But anyway, crowdfunding is very good because investment are consolidated so that we can support a certain project.

About the issue about dumping versus keeping the price of the token will simply rely on the holder. He has the power to decide whether to sell it. Some are just really afraid that they will lose their money if they don't dump it.

What amazes me is that, if those investors should dump what they have, at that initial stage, there will not be any profit coming to them, rather it would be loss.
Yet they still prefer to dump the price of the coin.
This is mostly done to manipulate the market, so that they can turn the whole thing to a trading event. This at will definitely cause a breakdown for the project if care is not taken.

I just go with the flow, if you see the price is not worth holding. I will sell it. from the very beginning I invested in ICO I planned to hold the long term. but for reasons of very low prices and dev less support so I sold it. and because every project I invest in is like this, I have already started withdrawing from the ICO.

the reason I joined was to support the project and seek profits. I can't support it if I lose, so if I see the price of the token doesn't match the joke I better sell and leave the project. this might hurt but this is the fact. many people like me right now. some even worse they just wait for the pump and then dump it away.

I think that I participate as investor. But If I will launch my own project, I won’t list my tokens without any release of my products. So it’s fault from both sides.

in my opinion, most investors are now in a hurry to invest and do not want to take risks so that when coins appear on the market almost all investors and traders sell all their coins without seeing the future of the coin.

Now the main goal of a large mass of the crypto community is to make quick money. That's why people participate in the bounty and get their little awards and then immediately sell everything on the stock exchange. People who invest in ICO are not traders. They are very much interested in the fact that the price of the coin continued to grow and therefore they are interested in the quality of the product. As long as people think about the speculation of the crypto industry will not budge.

We invest on a good project because we want to support it so when they succeed on that, our money will be doubled or more. In investment we have to sell it so we can make profit, there is no forever coins on our crypto wallet we have to leave sometimes so we can hold a better coins.

Nothing personal only business, as soon as the price of a coin exceeds the purchase price, you should immediately sell it, those who hold the coin and believe in the success of the project are either very naive people or beginners like me.

The solution for that is to luck up the tokens and to distribute 10 percent of contributed coins to investors and not to launch a bounty programme. This would avoid the price dumping and help to stabilise coin on an exchange.

Last year I lose some money through crowdsale and that has seriously affected my investment and since then I have decided to invest in project and tokens that are listed in the market.  Buying through crowdsale is the undo of many investors.

Well, its all the issue, "profit". Even investors invest for the same motive, they will not sacrifice their money for a certain project which they are not even sure of its success. Besides not all projects launching crowdfunding turn out to be successful at the end so they act wisely for their own benefit too instead of waiting till the product be lunched but no guarantee what will be the outcome. As if it is not known to all how most projects make good promises and still remain promises at the end.  ;D

You made a valid point here its better to lock up some part of the tokens to avoid dumpers who are after profits while some of the ICOs teams are also after profits after earning some funds they carelesssly  abandon the project to the detriment of some investor who believed in that project thus both parties is to blame.

Crowdfunding in the crypto space investment avenue for peopele , So people support projects basically to make some extra profits

Giving huge bonuses in private sales and pre-sale and bonuses at the ICO stage which are always big and the commitment of ICO developers who are not consistent with their products is a big factor that killed the ICO. Sometimes there are also advisors who directly sell the tokens they get so that they reduce prices. There are many factors that kill the ICO, but only 2-3% bounty is very meaningless

Many people go to ico because they can get huge benefits.But now the market situation is not optimistic.Many people have not been able to make a profit and have lost a lot of money.

Up until today i still feeling hesitate to join into project ICO, cause what i had saw that the coins will mostly drop when it got listed in the market.
So i prefer to choose to purchase the coins when it got listed in the market, that will be safer for me.

Actually I myself am still interested in following, but now there are so many projects that die and make people lazy to participate. I am waiting for changes so it is not like now where many investors are harmed

No one, investors and traders alike, is a Saint in this aspect. We are all here for the profit and gain from what ICO we venture into. And also in my experience, I have learn not to fall in love too much with any project. It's cool to support projects and at the same time be ready to dump at the sight of dip.

Frankly speaking investments are always about money and getting reward for risks you have. So I participate in crowdfunding mostly (95%) because of reward. This is my main incentive just like for every professional investor around.

People think the next big technological breakthrough could happen with crypto currencies and blockchain. I mean who wouldn't wanna be a part of the "next apple" or "next windows". I know its highly unlikely that the next apple will be from crypto or blockchain based technology but it doesn't mean that a huge company can't come out from this space.

It may not be as big as the others but look at the startups all over palo alto, there are companies that worth billions of dollars that didn't made a single dollar of profit yet investors want to buy them out, that is why people invest into stuff like this early so they could get out at the max and hope that at least one of them could become billion dollar company and that would make them very rich. Just purely speculative but also kind of like lottery.

I don't know who did it first but those devs and the investors are most likely to dump their tokens first and i think the ones who complain about it was the bounty hunters. Which the devs tend to delay their tokens for a couple of weeks or months because they want to launch their projects or whatsoever their other reason. And of course, if you were the bounty hunters when you see the market is almost out you will feel that FOMO and you have to dump it too.

So, i don't know who's the one killing it but i think IMO both of them are killing it because they were too greedy to make money.

Although we live in the physical world with disabilities, I believe that everyone has the right to implement their ideas, unfortunately for this most often the funds are needed which the project often does not have, so collecting crowdfandig is an excellent combination to give those who deserve it.

Is this the best you could come up with? Such a generic comment that doesn't add any value to the discussion.

No, everybody does not have the right to implement their ideas and receive funding for it.
Some ideas are just way too bad to ever amount to anything.

How many people have spent hundreds of dollars on Kickstarter campaigns, without ever receiving a product.
They all invested because 'the idea just sounded so good'.

There's no obligation or accountability to deliver a product, that's what's wrong with crowdfunding.

That said, there are some good use-cases too. Some amazing projects have become successful thanks to crowdfunding.

Very strange question about participation. All life people invest in order to make a profit. Why should an investor invest in an idea without making a profit? Otherwise, it would be charity.

Especially when the dev can't provide a good market that will give them all a huge liquidity and then it can kill the price of token instantly. As far as i know to offer a lot of bonuses seem to be the worst thing ever i seen in these days.

I'm not going to cheat. I think that today cryptocurrency is still a bonanza. I hope that people will understand and believe in it, because now it’s a really great way to make money, see what happens next.

I think most of the investors invest in ICOs without believing in the project because I don't understand why as an investor you should dump your coins right after listing.

I think that everything depends on the project, because only the product can affect the following actions of investors!

It all depends on the project and how the sale is organized. For example, the recent sale of btt is very interesting because those who bought in pre-sale paid more than those who bought later: it's a new way to approach the ICOs. I'm curious to see who will follow this model.

I have joined several icos and I also trade with different exchanges and I thinks it is just human nature and instinct to always hope, assume and expect that you will get some profit from your investment with any ventures. The primary purpose of having an investment is of course to get a good harvest out of your capital so the developer and the entire team must have thought about this already and they should be ready with this kind of happening from all of their investors.

Investing in ICO gained popularity in 2017, when it was possible to get + 200 percent in a couple of months. So far, many people are looking for this way of earning, but I do not understand why?

My goal (like any normal investor) is to support the project and make a profit. The problem is not that someone quickly gets rid of assets. The problem is that many projects are not ready to offer something innovative, necessary. And not able to release the final product.

It is obvious that the matter is solely in the benefit, which today has already exhausted itself. Of course, most people do not use today's situations in full force, because today it makes sense to talk only about HOLD

Crowdfunding is differently working in this community from real life but people are doing it for their own reasons like they want to make money but they are not realizing like in long term it will be more beneficial than rushing for selling once it get listed in exchanges. This might be probably due to lack of awareness about how crowdfunding is working because people are just looking for short term benefits whereas crowdfunding will make a project more stronger in long-term only.

I am just enforced to stay within this community because if I will be holding alone then I will not get any reward for hard work, I am putting for promoting them through campaigns. So, I am also rushing to encash as earlier possible once it get listed in the exchanges.

Yes, it is true that the good market of newly launched tokens is something that is awaited as a commitment from the developer. The ability to trade in large markets affects the value of a token

I will participate in crowdfunding just for the great tech, not another fork of the fork) For me very strange when I see real projects for real life but nobody wants to see them) All prefer hype projects that just promising another copy of existing coins with many new words that nobody understands)