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Hello, do you have some experience with paid groups on a telegram?
I have recently bought one of these and have sloughed. They give altcoins from Binance some prediction is fulfilled, some not. The same thing with Bitmex, where they sometimes ignore that their recommended position would end in stop loss and write positive results that came after then, so they will not happen ....
This is not 95% success rate of the signals they boasted ...

Membership cost me 0.005 for 1 month.
The "VIP" group has around 200 members.
I wonder if these activities are somehow guarded, for example, if a large number of people wanted to file a complaint (which I do not plan) for someone to deal with or not - because they are not fiat money but crytocurrency and that the offender is probably in abroad ...?

Thanks

Its not guarded at all. You are simply transfering your bitcoins to random guy with telegram group who is randomly giving some signals (as you said some are good some are not - like coin toss). He is untracable and can disappear any day.

Using telegram signal goups is also pointless because you will never learn to trade. After each waste trade you will blame leaders and all you will learn from this is that this group is not legit, lets jump to another. Do your own trades. Even if you are unexperienced. Chose lowest possible bid (0,001 btc in binance ~ 4$) and make as mannny mistakes as possible. Learn from each and be better from every.
After few days you will say : i've lost 10$ but learned this and this and this
after few weeks you will say : i've earned 20$ but ive learned this and this and this
after few month you will increase bit and say ; I've earned 2000$ and still learned this and this

What would you say after few month trading by telegram signals?

I learned that this and this and this group is not legit, this is quite good but im still on big waste.  (if you will find 1 legit)

Its true but I rather wondered if they would be prosecuted at a higher level of activity. For example, due to unpaid taxes due to this reception or due to misleading advertising ....
Could the police detect ip addresses of the operators of these groups and do criminal proceedings?

This is a very difficult one due to anonymity in the system,due to decentralization,individuals are expected to protect themselves from scammers as legal actions are a far cry in cryptocurrency market
Stay far away from telegram groups that looks too good to be true,such as the one you just mentioned,they only have one intention,and that's to scam people

Telegram is a very vulnerable medium for scam nowadays. Scammers might be very difficult to prosecute if detected, I also think you need more experience to manage information in each forum that involve exchange of coin. You need to do your research on every information and if you dont get good answer you might browse related information on the forum or start new if you can find any .

I joined many crypto telegram channel but im not interesting to be paid member, because i prefer to make analysis and to predict the price action by self. Learn technical analysis by self is more usefull to increase our knowledge.

Most if not all of those telegram groups are big shams in the first place. They exist solely to make money off their followers/users. Think about it. If I knew a coin was to hugely pump in price, would I tell the public about it? Heck no. I'd buy in on my own so I can buy a lot more coins/tokens in lower prices.

If you want to do trading, then learn it on your own.

I think they can. However, the difficulty depends on how the scammers did the work. I mean, if the scammers are smart enough, they already thought the possibility of being traced and have made a way to avoid it from happening beforehand. Most likely it will be a long process if ever.

I suggest you to not join any signals group especially the paid ones. Aside from not knowing who's legit, imo signals are something like a trial and error or luck, it will not be correct consistently. Trading on your own would still be better and another advantage is that you'll learn for every trade you make

I currently belong to the trade signal telegram group.
I was registered with the VIP member too, so far the signal I got was almost 76% accurate.
however, some other signal groups that are free are sometimes just speculations, not a signal of the results of the analysis.

I have also joined some free signal telegram groups. But did not joined any premium. And I found most of the Channel are scam. Some Channel give signals for  quick pump and by that people are totally scamed by the admin because they gave signals their premium channel and create sell order and after creating order they give the signal  in the free channel people are trying to buy and the admin and paid members trying ti book profit. But i have found a or couple channel which is really worth to follow. But we should aware to follow the signals.

For this moment telegram use also for scaming people so we need to be aware on that. They will be created a group and then having a lot of members so the people will have interest of their service and the reality of that most members of the group is them also and they do that startegy to having more people to invest or what ever need to do.

Never believe and are interested in a group like that anywhere, and all kinds of predictions that are given whether it's about trading and gambling. Instead they think of themselves as experts, but why does he still want to get income from his members, if they are truly experts in certain fields then they can share his predictions anywhere by including the address of the donation, if there are other people who are successful because of their predictions, then I sure someone who is successful because of the predictions he gives will give him a donation with great gratitude. So as long as they ask for money or anything before sharing their predictions, I will never be interested in joining, still be careful!

Not guarded at all, this group of self appointed experts are just chilling to those who believes in them, sorry to say that after you pay them there's no
assurance that it will generate anything not unless you also have little knowledge with trading and knows how to read market movements, you can use
their advise and simply analyze if things have potentials to happen, but accuracy, there's no such thing especially inside crypto trading.

This is exactly what such groups count on, greed of users and of course being naive. It's actually easy money for them. I never trusted any of such gropus on any communication tool or social network, it's a very big possibility they are scam. Some self claimed experts are trying to convice naive user.they know the method how to make only profit or claim they have information what will happen on the market. It's much better to stay out of that.

Never follow something ( telegram channel/ group ) that make you pay it will make you get nothing. In many reason paid forum, social media, telegram channel ) only bring sad and bankrupt. We only get friends and about money the answer is no. I have really bad experience about it and always avoid like this. Not to scare you but that is reality, leave it before too late.

And must pay groups owners pay taxes from income ?

Not possible to happen.

There is just no guarantee whether all the signals they broadcast are going to make you money so do it with caution. I wonder who the signals really are from. But I have already seen some of these groups in the past where my friend also advise me early last year to sell since BTC will dip to $3k. I didn't listen but it did happen.

And how are you going to file the case?
Sending the bitcoin to them is like you already in agreement of their terms.
That is why before it had been repeated here to make sure about your transactions. There is no going back to that.

Regarding those telegram groups. They are all fakes. There is no such thing as signals. Who the hell are the people telling them about that?!!!
If they know what could happen in the trading website then they will just use it for themselves and that is already profit.
Why the hell create such a thing as a telegram group just to earn a little profit of .005 if you could make more by using those signals. RIGHT?!!!

you are absolutely right but if they have 200 idiots paying 0.005 monthly than they have a free full BTC every month. Not that bad I guess to give shit signals. Cause mostly it are pump and dump groups. They purchase coins cheap a couple days upfront. than they announce the signal, pump it a little themselves and then wait until as much people as possible catch the bait and boost the price up.

I do not like it as well. There are a couple that give their opinion but do not deliver exact signals. they just share their thought about possible good entry points according to how the market is going. I like that more than those louzy pump and dump signal groups.

These telegram groups just influence new traders with high profits. Their one & only slogan is to be a crypto millionaire within a month. hahaha.

I think OP already got my point. You have keep it on mind that they are nothing but fake signal providers. You can easily detect their false announcement on their channel where they got 100000 members but post seen by only 2.5k.

Quantity is over quantity in these signal groups. Etoro and similar platforms offer PAMM accounts for those who interested for managing trading accounts of investors with fixed/floating rates. Fake and egg accounts are there for a reason which mainly used for scamming new traders who want to get rich overnight.

Completely agree with you. In some telegram groups its really hard to find real members.

 I think those guys usually handle multiple telegram channel. Anyone  can easily see that they provide many lucrative post on one channel to join the others for best signal.

Why just enter a scheme without doing any reserach.

And now that you guys are literally fuck*ed up you will now seek an assistance from the authorities. First of all, it's quiet obvious that the Telegram community is full of sh*t groups especially in a crypto related channels or groups.

Take note of the word "prediction" , meaning at the end of the day, all are just a speculative ones. And those speculations are being paid? Come on.

Hope you learned your lesson here.

But still a lot of people keep finding these groups everywhere as if they could really give the right signals.
I guess this is what they get when they were lack of knowledge.
Even experts making predictions, none of them get a the right answer.
So, i wouldn't bother myself to fit in and give them a free credit.

Stop putting your money to an unreliable group. Before joining that group make sure you ask first rather than giving money first-hand and asking after. Alteast have a proper way to evade that scheme by asking. Telegram group does have good benefits but only little are 100% legit of giving reliable signal at moments notice. Don't think hard your money is gone forever but just take this mistake as a learning process for making the fortune in the crypto industry.

These telegram signal groups remind me those olden days when sports betting was at its peak in my country. There would be so many "VIP paid fixed match" groups and oooh boy... people got scammed left to right, top to bottom.

Never trust such groups... those 200 members could even be bots just to make you believe it's real. If you are not smart, you get scammed.

Following telegram signal, just a waste of time :D
as we know it's easy to buy telegram followers, too many fake viewers by spamming, share their telegram channel into other telegram groups

Only join something like that once, and i must pay bigger cost than you. But what i get is only something that the admin of group already bought in cheap price, and his members who actually pump the coin. After that i believe myself in trading.

There is a lot of fake now in telegram and that is very alarming and everyone will be know that to avoid this . Scammer become smarter it's time people to become smarter too.  Telegram followers can maybe interest to those people who lose money because they see what group having a lot of followers and for sure they will convince it to invest. Imbestigate if the followers is real.

you should learn how to trade on your own, don't be easily tempted by paid signals that promise a lot of profit, before joining a trading signal group you should first find out the truth.

Don't trust those telegram groups. Its more worse since you are paying for a membership at their "premium" group. Believe me or not, most of the predictions they give are just random, or take information from different threads. If really could predict the prices, why would they have a "paid" group in the first place? They could just trade on their own and make enough profit. And those pump and dump groups are another form of bullshit. The leaders will always make profit on those groups.

You paid them to get some real signals to make a profit. But sometimes you lose and sometimes you earn! So, they scam you already. They take money only for their own pocket, no one is waiting in the telegram to fill your pocket with money. In hundreds of trade signal groups, only a very few groups are real and everyone can't join there. So, stop investing in these scam signal groups. Better spend the time to learn the trade and analysing the crypto market. Good Luck.

there are lot of pump and dump scam groups , who are offering free service also , its better we avoid them .

All these groups admin will first buy the coin and then give the pump signal , the end user who bought in the pump will eventually loose

and why ? not all telegram groups are scam . some are legit and informative  . some are required you to join after you have apply for a bounty or sig campaigns  .


Premium groups on telegram are rare . most that ive seen are always free  . its not a bad thing to pay only if you knew that the paid membership is worth it for getting real signals and other legit infos  .


Yes . thats why it called predictions because they are not accurate  . theres no guarantee that what they supply can occur .


paid groups do have a capital to pump a certain  coin  . thats why you pay them  .


They can easily manipulate if they have enough funds from other people  . also , pump and dump groups arent bullshit because they are business  . they earn from this and others too .  yes leader earns more because this is his main idea  .

i think they know how to avoid such prosecution in case someone escalates this matter.
who knows, they are using disposable numbers to register their telegram groups???
just  a waste of time if somebody will attend to this kind of complaint


better join free groups. no strings attached
you can get info and you can share info as well

Filing any complain will not help anything because the arrowhead may be overseas. That is why it is always good to do due diligence on any site you want to invest your crypto. There has been a large volume of this type of sites claiming to pay incredibly ROI which is only a trap to the inexperienced crypto enthusiasts. Invest only what you can afford to lose.

These are the mistake that newbies should avoid. There are no crypto telegram groups that are giving reliable information about pumps and dumps that are happening in the market. They are just scammer and they are pretending to be a professional traders.

Don't trust them, they always spam their advertisements in different telegram groups and I know with their
aggressiveness they can attract clients, especially the new one. I am not fan with that, they require a payment
when they are not right all the time or even most of the time, it's useless, just make your own analysis and trust your instinct.

For safety reasons, never join a pump and dump groups. they are bound to fail. encourage yourself to learn how to trade and put it in practice. you will do more than some of the administrators of those group. it is all about challenges. try and challenge your self and see improvement on trading.

what is your percentage of failure and success in trading as long as you follow the signal from the group?
is it 50:50? or even more often you suffer losses? You pay them to get information about the steps you must take in trading to make a profit. if they do an analysis of origin I think you are just wasting your time and paying a fraudster who can get rid of your money because their trading predictions are wrong.
 :D :D therefore if you can trust your analysis more personally.
the signal is only a reference for supporters of your analysis of the trade you are about to carry out.

Mostly telegram group that offer investments is not trustworthy mate especially those ppl that selling cheap altcoin with discount because mostly are dead coin and have no specific information around the internet .That's my experience actually so be aware! Don't easily trust those ppl who good in sales talk.

There are lots of scam attempts are happening everyday through telegram groups. In recent times, I did see a group in the name of binance exchange but I was sure I never joined in any such a group. They were promoting like they were starting something new and for that they were giving away free ETH. To participate new need to send some ETH then they will send back multiple times of ETH. An old way of scamming innocent people, but the prime thing here is I never opted to join such a group still it is happening in my computer.

I guess there are many vulnerability for our security in telegram usage. For example, they allow people to change their username hence it become easy for people to hide.

If we join paid telegram group and follow the signal from them, that mean we will never become professional trader. All people have opportunity to make their self become more expert if they keep learning. I never join paid telegram group because i can analysis the market by self. I only subcribed telegram channel that give news update about crypto market.

I guess that paid telegram crypto trading groups are just the new HYIP/ponzi scheme.
I wish that Telegram support will find and ban such groups.They really need to clean their platform out of such scams.There are no secret groups of master traders that have 99,99% successful trades and that are willing to share their signals/trades for a fee.This is a myth for the naive noobs.

Telegram group Hype usually for them are fake pump up a group. If you are in their trap you may be left behind on their signal and probably they have big benefits on it. Just, for example, they broadcast to pump xx token will be pump up next 3 days, the day before they announced they already bought on it. IF they saw the exit point profit income they sell for it without further notice to their member.

That is right because if you want to become professional trader maybe you do not need to pay like what others do they paying to telegram group. Trader they do they own research and yes they still need the other help but it's free and no one can pay for the information or any sign of that. Your strategy is good because you only subscribe to the channel updating news avout crypto and they offer it as free.

Never believe in signal signals that are unclear or do not provide data and analysis that is beyond reason. because now there are so many signals that are given but the data is not accurate