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Title: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: yurez83 on February 07, 2019, 03:19:05 PM
Good day. I'm created this topic because are no other ways to communicate with moderators.
 I will try to explain briefly and clearly about my issue and excuse me please for my bad English, it's not my first language.

 1. I'm respecting rules of the forum and if somewhere several times I crossed the boundaries of communication - I do not justify myself. Nevertheless, I'm never used the author photos of other users or their texts for posting on the forum and trolling. Articles and external sources of information I'm always had with links.

2. I don't allow to use my copyright photos on the forum by several users (I will designate them all), distortion of these photos and trolling.

 I got long discussion in a topic where a certain group of users blamed the Minexcoin project. I did'n took the unproven insults and accusations against me before the coin, until user with nickname
thunderjet published my personal data and most importantly my author photos. And more, other users used my photos in a perverted form, with trolling and even with a sexual harassment (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49589205#msg49589205).
The last straw was the publication of insults and trolling with the illegal usage of my photos in other topics that were not even in the "scam" section.
 I wrote reports to the moderator about these unchallenged events, but after 2 days there was no reaction.

  Based on this, I ask you to immediately remove my copyright photos which was distributed by users without my knowledge, without using direct links to the source and illegal editing them, which falls under forum rule 33 (plagiarism).
 And also I'm asking forum moderators to take measures to prevent further usage of  my copyright photos by other users. I am not a moderator to assess the degree of their guilt and punishment in the form of a ban or something else.

  In case of refusal to delete a photo, I will be forced to defend my rights through the courts. I did not want to bring this incident to these measures, but if it is necessary, I will sue the forum as a source of distribution of my author photos.

And because It's hard to identify users which posted my photos, I will call to the court owners of this forum in case of ignoring of my civil rights.


thunderjet:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49587838#msg49587838
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49587904#msg49587904
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49587968#msg49587968
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49588022#msg49588022
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49588103#msg49588103
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49588443#msg49588443

JollyGood:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49587922#msg49587922
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49587963#msg49587963
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49587996#msg49587996
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49588191#msg49588191
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49588280#msg49588280
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49589020#msg49589020
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49589582#msg49589582
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49589616#msg49589616
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49617352#msg49617352
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4841968.msg49615655#msg49615655

BitPotus:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49588622#msg49588622
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49589205#msg49589205
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49595167#msg49595167
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49604514#msg49604514
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49624288#msg49624288

DeadBirdzz:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49589903#msg49589903

Hunterwolfie:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49620420#msg49620420






Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: Rooivalk on February 07, 2019, 03:29:09 PM
wow shit..
Is it finger of ur foot?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.340

https://s8.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2019/02/5945afceafacd44031df1477ca0fe3f5.jpg



Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: Theb on February 07, 2019, 03:38:03 PM
Although I am strongly against plagiarism happening here in the forum the screenshots of where the alleged "plagiarism" have taken in place really has no bearing under the fair use policy of our copyright laws. Below is just a given example of the mere definition of what fair use means on using copyrighted work such as images, videos, music, and of course written work is covered by the fair use policy.

fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.

From what I am seeing with the screenshots you have posted they are just merely commenting on you being busted in your scam, so really there is no plagiarism happening when they used your photos as they have used it to identify the scammer's identity. So what it seems to me is you are just here asking for the mods to cover your tracks and hide your identity again in the forum.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: yurez83 on February 07, 2019, 03:40:23 PM
Although I am strongly against plagiarism happening here in the forum the screenshots of where the alleged "plagiarism" have taken in place really has no bearing under the fair use policy of our copyright laws. Below is just a given example of the mere definition of what fair use means on using copyrighted work such as images, videos, music, and of course written work is covered by the fair use policy.

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fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.

From what I am seeing with the screenshots you have posted they are just merely commenting on you being busted in your scam. So what it seems to me is you are just here asking for the mods to cover your tracks and hide your identity again in the forum.

Plagiarism is the use of my photos without my knowledge and the main thing is editing  them as my own, applying inscriptions.

wow shit..
Is it finger of ur foot?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.340


Yes it is a finger. Did you like it? It's not mine finger. ))


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: Theb on February 07, 2019, 04:35:05 PM
~snip~

Plagiarism is the use of my photos without my knowledge and the main thing is editing  them as my own, applying inscriptions.
Dude I just explained in my first post why there is no plagiarism going on with your claim. Let me explain it more clearly if a criminal is identified by authorities and they found some of his pictures in his social media account, do you think that they will need the consent of the criminal first before they take your picture and produce copies of it? Of course not the criminal is a wanted fugitive and they don't need to ask anymore permission to use his pictures to be shown to everyone.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: mu_enrico on February 07, 2019, 04:36:43 PM
Plagiarism is the use of my photos without my knowledge and the main thing is editing  them as my own, applying inscriptions.
Wrong.

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Definition of plagiarize: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source
Source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plagiarizing

Your copyrighted work can be used without your permission if it classified as fair use.

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What Is Fair Use?
In its most general sense, a fair use is any copying of copyrighted material done for a limited and “transformative” purpose, such as to comment upon, criticize, or parody a copyrighted work. Such uses can be done without permission from the copyright owner. In other words, fair use is a defense against a claim of copyright infringement. If your use qualifies as a fair use, then it would not be considered an infringement.
Source: https://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fair-use/what-is-fair-use/

Your problem isn't about copyright, but about privacy and doxing.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: yurez83 on February 07, 2019, 04:52:56 PM
Plagiarism is the use of my photos without my knowledge and the main thing is editing  them as my own, applying inscriptions.
Wrong.

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Definition of plagiarize: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source
Source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plagiarizing

Your copyrighted work can be used without your permission if it classified as fair use.

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What Is Fair Use?
In its most general sense, a fair use is any copying of copyrighted material done for a limited and “transformative” purpose, such as to comment upon, criticize, or parody a copyrighted work. Such uses can be done without permission from the copyright owner. In other words, fair use is a defense against a claim of copyright infringement. If your use qualifies as a fair use, then it would not be considered an infringement.
Source: https://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fair-use/what-is-fair-use/

Your problem isn't about copyright, but about privacy and doxing.

That is, in your opinion, the use of my author's photo for the purpose of causing moral damage and trolling is a "Fair Use"?

Secondly - the use of my author's photo does not imply any manipulations, editing and changes, which automatically becomes plagiarism. I did not give the right to dispose of them as my own, not property.

Thirdly, I have the right to demand the removal of my intangible property only because it is unique and is not already present on any resource. No reference to the source of information.


~snip~

Plagiarism is the use of my photos without my knowledge and the main thing is editing  them as my own, applying inscriptions.
Dude I just explained in my first post why there is no plagiarism going on with your claim. Let me explain it more clearly if a criminal is identified by authorities and they found some of his pictures in his social media account, do you think that they will need the consent of the criminal first before they take your picture and produce copies of it? Of course not the criminal is a wanted fugitive and they don't need to ask anymore permission to use his pictures to be shown to everyone.

Now let me explain to you.
1. These users who insult and accuse me of being illegal are just people like me.
2. If you or they have facts of my fraud, then you can publish them.
3. If there are no facts, this is called slander and is prosecuted.
4. Only the police can use my copyrighted things with the permission of the court.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: mu_enrico on February 07, 2019, 05:16:27 PM
That is, in your opinion, the use of my author's photo for the purpose of causing moral damage and trolling is a "Fair Use"?
Depends, example:
https://i.imgflip.com/2b19me.jpg

Stop it, just click "Report to moderator" and type your reason as doxing or privacy violation. Let mods decide.
But if you scam people, your odds are small. AFAIK


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: yurez83 on February 07, 2019, 05:26:47 PM
That is, in your opinion, the use of my author's photo for the purpose of causing moral damage and trolling is a "Fair Use"?
Depends, example:


Stop it, just click "Report to moderator" and type your reason as doxing or privacy violation. Let mods decide.
But if you scam people, your odds are small. AFAIK

I'm not guilty of anything. I am not part of the team of the coin, which is accused of something (in my opinion is not legal). I did not take money from anyone ... etc.

If you think that I am guilty of only being a coin investor or holder and at the same time resisting (to fraudsters, in my opinion) who purposefully want to destroy the project with any false accusations, then I am very sorry.
 If these users believe that some kind of fraud is present - they have the right to go to court with facts or to the appropriate authorities. But they have no right to slander.

Therefore, no one exposed me. And no one has the right to impose moral damage on me verbal and over my copyright property.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: OgNasty on February 07, 2019, 05:30:23 PM
Your problem isn't about copyright, but about privacy and doxing.

Agreed. Isn’t that a bannable offense as well? Seems like mods are asleep at the wheel when it comes to users posting alleged images of other users in an attempt to dox.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: ABCbits on February 07, 2019, 05:34:37 PM
What you need is "Right to be Forgotten" to make sure your images/information is removed from this forum. I doubt plagiarism as reason gonna change moderator mind.

The real problems are such right only recognized on EU and few others country & this forum don't bother with it (GDPR, AEPD, etc.)

P.S. i don't know OP history at all


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: yurez83 on February 07, 2019, 05:36:27 PM
Referring to an excerpt from the rules of the forum.

My personal data and personal photos are published in the forbidden section. Who can say that this is not a violation?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4841968.msg49615655#msg49615655

https://s8.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2019/02/51ab3e718ebfa2254eb64f0b3dca72e5.jpg (https://hostingkartinok.com/show-image.php?id=51ab3e718ebfa2254eb64f0b3dca72e5)


p/s  Some messages were deleted in the section with its own moderation, so I can not provide more facts.




Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: theymos on February 07, 2019, 06:29:14 PM
 - That's not plagiarism.
 - If there is dox outside of the investigations section, report it with that as the reason.
 - If someone is threatening violence against you, report it with that as the reason.
 - If you have a copyright claim, you have to PM/email me a valid DCMA takedown notice with all required elements, including your address, a declaration under penalty of perjury, etc. Note that I will forward your notice to the affected users.
 - The forum is not under EU jurisdiction.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: eddie13 on February 07, 2019, 07:47:59 PM
Any scam accusation that links the scam's shills to the scam team via photos is considered a dox?
What about all of the fake team photos constantly busted as lies proven by links to the actual photos with real names? Are all of those bannable doxes also?

He says here it is not even his name..

Be careful !! Fraudsters extortionists are engaged in trolling, making an attack on projects.
These are, presumably, the same scammers (Temhuk,Yurez83,Jedgar, etc.). :D :D :D
If the same events happen to you, let me know.


https://medium.com/@minecoinorg/minexcoin-resolutely-reacted-to-the-raging-crime-in-the-network-reward-20-btc-4a23e1ae2f34
For idiots trolls explain:

1. I created a channel under a false name today, especially for you fools.    :D :D :D :D :D :D

2. The card is not fictional, but real. The following batches are expected with a branded design.




Nope,the name is true. ;)  and the card with Minexpay logo is fictional !!!

Yurez83 busted himself  :D :D :D



Of course, the idiot is all a real name, but not mine. And the name of the account on the forum present, from the Internet ...  http://arcanumclub.ru/smiles/smile3.gif http://arcanumclub.ru/smiles/smile3.gif





He posted under his real name himself and is now trying to get users banned for busting his scam.


Accidentally,rushing to post newest Minex fake news , Yurez 83 revealed his true identity in the video he posted :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qyhAzxwbI8&feature=youtu.be


His real name is: redacted


redact image





So in his haste to scam people with his referral link, he doxxed himself?

Oh my fucking god.

Yurez 83 is not the sharpest tool in the box is he?

He obviously took down the video once he realized he fucked up.

Oh man, this is hilarious.   :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-*




If this thread contains a dox should it not just be moved to the investigations board?
Is every post that mentions the name Leroy Fodor or  Paul Vernon/Bao Luo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg49273396#msg49273396) a dox too?

I would really hate to see anything bad happen to thunderjet over this.. He is a very trustworthy, helpful, and positive user in my opinion. He is the one to first identify the Cryptsy stolen coins wallets before we even knew they were stolen and iirc may have been the one to bring some of the blockchain information to freeze coins that vern was trying to dump on exchanges saving a lot of coin that eventually ended up in the receivership to compensate the scam victims..
A true legend.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: marlboroza on February 07, 2019, 08:31:24 PM
illegal [...] defend my rights through the courts [...] I will sue the forum
Minex shill talks about illegal things and want to sue someone. Maybe court will be interested to hear how minex shill tried to lure people into this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.0

If this thread contains a dox should it not just be moved to the investigations board?
I believe this is best explanation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4875873.msg43910598#msg43910598

Sometimes forum members unintentionally break forum rules. I don't think they should be banned for doing good to community, especially not when some scam shill shared his personal information on forum.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: xtraelv on February 07, 2019, 10:50:26 PM
Technically photos are not in breach of copyright on bitcointalk. The images are hosted on an external server not in control of this website. If there is a breach of copyright it is with the image host and the person who posted it. Bitcointalk only links to the image. In most jurisdictions linking to an image does not result in breach of copyright.


He is actually right, it doesn't matter if it's hosted on an external site or not, if you are the owner of the forum you can be sued for copyright infringement if someone posts a copyrighted picture. Of course it matters a lot where the server is located.

Not if the link is to an origional post. It is like posting a URL.

The presence of the image is only virtual.  The image file is not on the bitcointalk server - only a link to the image.

Removal of the image from the linked site will result in the url displaying http://invalid.jpg

Such site can also block external access to the image.


In the country where I live it is not considered infringement. It is also not disallowed by the bitcointalk rules.

...and that is not even getting into the "fair use" argument or the fact that most, if not all of the images that were linked to are in public domain with no distinguishable ownership.

A lot of the memes are generated on meme makers using royalty free stock photos.

Crazy countries can make crazy laws. But since I don't live in them or plan to visit they have no jurisdiction over me.  If those countries attempt to enforce those crazy laws outside of their own country it may well be breaching the constitutional laws of the country that I live in.

In the majority of civilized countries - linking and framing is not considered copyright infringement.

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In large part, linking and framing are not held to be copyright infringement under US and German copyright law, even though the underlying Web pages are protected under copyright law. Because the copyright-protected content is stored on a server other than that of the linking or framing person (it is stored on the plaintiff's server), there is typically no infringing "copy" made by the defendant linking or framing person (as may be essential), on which to base liability. Some European countries take a more protective view, however, and hold unauthorized framing and so-called deep linking unlawful.

The European Court of Justice's binding ruling in 2014 was that embedding a work could not be a violation of copyright:

The embedding in a website of a protected work which is publicly accessible on another website by means of a link using the framing technology … does not by itself constitute communication to the public within the meaning of [the EU Copyright directive] to the extent that the relevant work is neither communicated to a new public nor by using a specific technical means different from that used for the original communication
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_aspects_of_hyperlinking_and_framing

As long as Bitcointalk follows the DCMA guidelines they have nothing to worry about.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088832.msg48927165#msg48927165


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: yurez83 on February 08, 2019, 05:47:17 AM
Any scam accusation that links the scam's shills to the scam team via photos is considered a dox?
What about all of the fake team photos constantly busted as lies proven by links to the actual photos with real names? Are all of those bannable doxes also?

He says here it is not even his name..


illegal [...] defend my rights through the courts [...] I will sue the forum
Minex shill talks about illegal things and want to sue someone. Maybe court will be interested to hear how minex shill tried to lure people into this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.0

If this thread contains a dox should it not just be moved to the investigations board?
I believe this is best explanation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4875873.msg43910598#msg43910598

Sometimes forum members unintentionally break forum rules. I don't think they should be banned for doing good to community, especially not when some scam shill shared his personal information on forum.


What kind of illegal things?

1. The investigation has the right to conduct only the police, and not some kind of user.
2. Only the court has the right to establish the legality or lawlessness of some facts.
3. The fact that the user once did a favor and then slandered other people 100 times is useful?
4. The user has the right to only assume, suspect, have an opinion or an inclination (like - do not like the project).

 How to deal with the fact that the user group in collusion begins a trolling attack on the project (user) with a distortion of truth in order to harm the reputation of the project (user)?
 Are you sure of their intentions?


Technically photos are not in breach of copyright on bitcointalk. The images are hosted on an external server not in control of this website. If there is a breach of copyright it is with the image host and the person who posted it. Bitcointalk only links to the image. In most jurisdictions linking to an image does not result in breach of copyright.


He is actually right, it doesn't matter if it's hosted on an external site or not, if you are the owner of the forum you can be sued for copyright infringement if someone posts a copyrighted picture. Of course it matters a lot where the server is located.

Not if the link is to an origional post. It is like posting a URL.

The presence of the image is only virtual.  The image file is not on the bitcointalk server - only a link to the image.

Removal of the image from the linked site will result in the url displaying http://invalid.jpg

Such site can also block external access to the image.


In the country where I live it is not considered infringement. It is also not disallowed by the bitcointalk rules.

...and that is not even getting into the "fair use" argument or the fact that most, if not all of the images that were linked to are in public domain with no distinguishable ownership.

A lot of the memes are generated on meme makers using royalty free stock photos.

Crazy countries can make crazy laws. But since I don't live in them or plan to visit they have no jurisdiction over me.  If those countries attempt to enforce those crazy laws outside of their own country it may well be breaching the constitutional laws of the country that I live in.

In the majority of civilized countries - linking and framing is not considered copyright infringement.

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In large part, linking and framing are not held to be copyright infringement under US and German copyright law, even though the underlying Web pages are protected under copyright law. Because the copyright-protected content is stored on a server other than that of the linking or framing person (it is stored on the plaintiff's server), there is typically no infringing "copy" made by the defendant linking or framing person (as may be essential), on which to base liability. Some European countries take a more protective view, however, and hold unauthorized framing and so-called deep linking unlawful.

The European Court of Justice's binding ruling in 2014 was that embedding a work could not be a violation of copyright:

The embedding in a website of a protected work which is publicly accessible on another website by means of a link using the framing technology … does not by itself constitute communication to the public within the meaning of [the EU Copyright directive] to the extent that the relevant work is neither communicated to a new public nor by using a specific technical means different from that used for the original communication
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_aspects_of_hyperlinking_and_framing

As long as Bitcointalk follows the DCMA guidelines they have nothing to worry about.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088832.msg48927165#msg48927165


Thank you for information. I know what you're talking about, but there are several points:
- Links must go to the source of information, where the author's information was posted.
- It is not allowed to distort, edit the integrity of information, without the consent of the author, especially with the aim of humiliating, causing moral damage, etc.

 This is similar to how I will take someone's author's song, vozmu change words, where I will insult the author of the song and will spread on the Internet - by making a link to it on some of the servers on the Internet.

 Therefore, users who distribute my photos without my knowledge have such status as thieves. They stole it and now use it in their messages, edit it, etc.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: yurez83 on February 08, 2019, 07:24:20 AM
- That's not plagiarism.
 - If there is dox outside of the investigations section, report it with that as the reason.
 - If someone is threatening violence against you, report it with that as the reason.
 - If you have a copyright claim, you have to PM/email me a valid DCMA takedown notice with all required elements, including your address, a declaration under penalty of perjury, etc. Note that I will forward your notice to the affected users.
 - The forum is not under EU jurisdiction.

Thanks for the answer. I understood your position and forum.
I need to talk to a lawyer to label my own.

As a regular user of the forum, I will allow you to give you advice. Define on the forum the exact rules regarding the dissemination of false information and charges. And also indicate that no investigations are legally binding, as they are not conducted by authorized services, but in turn, these “false accusations” can be prosecuted. So that users who spread lies were warned about liability. The same applies to the use of personal information and copyright materials.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on February 08, 2019, 08:01:18 AM
Therefore, users who distribute my photos without my knowledge have such status as thieves. They stole it and now use it in their messages, edit it, etc.

Funny reply, so what about those using trump's image without his knowledge all over the internet?. If you want people to stop using your photos on the internet without your permission then you need to stop posting them on the web and better still avoid using the web. Like previous users have said, i don't see any of the claims above as plagiarism, when you commit plagiarism you steal people's work and claim it as yours and fair use of your picture isn't plagiarism period.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: marlboroza on February 08, 2019, 08:17:25 AM
What kind of illegal things?
Who mentioned illegal usage of photos, you or me?
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The last straw was the publication of insults and trolling with the illegal usage of my photos in other topics that were not even in the "scam" section.

2. Only the court has the right to establish the legality or lawlessness of some facts.
Is this court of law? Or discussion forum?

3. The fact that the user once did a favor and then slandered other people 100 times is useful?
Isn't the fact that user posted facts?

4. The user has the right to only assume, suspect, have an opinion or an inclination (like - do not like the project).
Can we say that user, based on facts presented in thread, have right to assume and suspect that minex is scam and discuss about it?

And also indicate that no investigations are legally binding, as they are not conducted by authorized services, but in turn, these “false accusations” can be prosecuted.
Ever heard of news reporters?

1. I created a channel under a false name today, especially for you fools.    :D :D :D :D :D :D
Now you are complaining that someone is using your picture and personal information.

As you said this isn't your name, and now you are pretending to be a guy which you claim you are not, luring people to register under your referral link for your own financial gains, isn't that called identity theft?

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Identity theft is the deliberate use of someone else's identity, usually as a method to gain a financial advantage or obtain credit and other benefits in the other person's name, and perhaps to the other person's disadvantage or loss. The person whose identity has been assumed may suffer adverse consequences, especially if they are held responsible for the perpetrator's actions. Identity theft occurs when someone uses another's personally identifying information, like their name, identifying number, or credit card number, without their permission, to commit fraud or other crimes.
source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_theft)

In case identity is really yours (which you claim it isn't), there are also other laws for this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49587152#msg49587152 so make sure to read all laws regarding your...referral link.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: JollyGood on February 08, 2019, 12:10:40 PM
Although I am strongly against plagiarism happening here in the forum the screenshots of where the alleged "plagiarism" have taken in place really has no bearing under the fair use policy of our copyright laws. Below is just a given example of the mere definition of what fair use means on using copyrighted work such as images, videos, music, and of course written work is covered by the fair use policy.

fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.

From what I am seeing with the screenshots you have posted they are just merely commenting on you being busted in your scam, so really there is no plagiarism happening when they used your photos as they have used it to identify the scammer's identity. So what it seems to me is you are just here asking for the mods to cover your tracks and hide your identity again in the forum.



Thank you for your post.

You have highlighted the issue at hand. The OP yurez83 just wants mods to cover his tracks after he has been associated with being a scammer and helping a scam outfit such as Minexcoin/Minexpay/Minexsystems and being a brand ambassador for a Minex sister company Republia.






Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: mosprognoz on February 08, 2019, 12:43:58 PM
I don't allow to use my copyright photos on the forum

Do you have officially copyrighted your photos ? If yes, please show us the registration certificate. All your photos that are posted here, are in public access in your social media profiles. You are afraid that some Russian criminal dudes, hired by people who lost money in your scam, will find you and fuck you up your scammy ass. I strongly suggest you, to go to the jail yourself, before that dudes will find you. Scamming people and stealing their money is not a good idea, and the final result of that action, will be similar to what is happening now with you, and with whole minex project scam.

MINEX = Ponzi Scam (Check the rates of "parking" coins)

MINEX = Fraudulent Cards (Check the name of the company on so called "Minex" aka Upay cards)

MINEX = Stealing peoples identity via fake KYC (Check the procedures of receiving Minex card)

Conclusion: MINEX = SCAM.  


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: TeMHuK on February 08, 2019, 12:55:22 PM
I don't allow to use my copyright photos on the forum

Do you have officially copyrighted your photos ? If yes, please show us the registration certificate. All your photos that are posted here, are in public access in your social media profiles. You are afraid that some Russian criminal dudes, hired by people who lost money in your scam, will find you and fuck you up your scammy ass. I strongly suggest you, to go to the jail yourself, before that dudes will find you. Scamming people and stealing their money is not a good idea, and the final result of that action, will be similar to what is happening now with you, and with whole minex project scam.

MINEX = Ponzi Scam (Check the rates of "parking" coins)

MINEX = Fraudulent Cards (Check the name of the company on so called "Minex" aka Upay cards)

MINEX = Stealing peoples identity via fake KYC (Check the procedures of receiving Minex card)

Conclusion: MINEX = SCAM.  
MNEX is useless shittoken. But Minexcoin is 100% legal company which providing bank card service to their customers. FUDders which extorted money from Minexcoin now attacking that project, same like many other projects. Jollygood and his popped thunderjet are frauders. I hope admins of Bitcointalk will found connection with person named in this link https://medium.com/@minecoinorg/minexcoin-resolutely-reacted-to-the-raging-crime-in-the-network-reward-20-btc-4a23e1ae2f34

I think it's time to create another topic at Bicointalk where devs of all coins can cooperate against extortionists and thru the court or by free will of Bitcointalk get their personal data and pass that to the police to judge them by law. That is pure crime which happens in Bitcointalk.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: BitPotus on February 08, 2019, 04:13:31 PM
I don't allow to use my copyright photos on the forum

Do you have officially copyrighted your photos ? If yes, please show us the registration certificate. All your photos that are posted here, are in public access in your social media profiles. You are afraid that some Russian criminal dudes, hired by people who lost money in your scam, will find you and fuck you up your scammy ass. I strongly suggest you, to go to the jail yourself, before that dudes will find you. Scamming people and stealing their money is not a good idea, and the final result of that action, will be similar to what is happening now with you, and with whole minex project scam.

MINEX = Ponzi Scam (Check the rates of "parking" coins)

MINEX = Fraudulent Cards (Check the name of the company on so called "Minex" aka Upay cards)

MINEX = Stealing peoples identity via fake KYC (Check the procedures of receiving Minex card)

Conclusion: MINEX = SCAM.  
MNEX is useless shittoken. But Minexcoin is 100% legal company which providing bank card service to their customers. FUDders which extorted money from Minexcoin now attacking that project, same like many other projects. Jollygood and his popped thunderjet are frauders. I hope admins of Bitcointalk will found connection with person named in this link https://medium.com/@minecoinorg/minexcoin-resolutely-reacted-to-the-raging-crime-in-the-network-reward-20-btc-4a23e1ae2f34

I think it's time to create another topic at Bicointalk where devs of all coins can cooperate against extortionists and thru the court or by free will of Bitcointalk get their personal data and pass that to the police to judge them by law. That is pure crime which happens in Bitcointalk.


Minexcoin has been consistently deceiving its customers and Boris together with you, TemHuk have been lying through your teeth to raise money for your little scam operation.

It's really funny to see scammers like TEMHUK try to portray themselves as victims when there's plenty of evidence that shows that they are in fact nothing but a bunch of crooks that openly make threats to "destroy" anyone who tries to expose their scam.

Am sure plenty of us will welcome and be happy to cooperate with any official police investigation into any matters related to Minexcoin and its operations especially given the fact that Boris is already in trouble with the law with his real-life  tax evasion related to his construction business.

Below, we have TeMhuk threatening to doxx me for calling him out about the non-existent partnership with CSOB bank which had to be retracted after it was found that their third party provider Novarise was actually being run by someone who'd been jailed for fraud.

He also made threats to others who have been working tirelessly to expose this huge scam




https://i.imgur.com/jtHpKD6.png


And now this. "They" try to threaten people.

http://i65.tinypic.com/25k04yx.png



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http://i65.tinypic.com/hrx2cm.png


The scammer fool Temhuk sent me a PM saying he and his scammer friends "will do everything to destroy my reputation"  


I received a message from Temhuk, the first he sent me. I replied asking him to own up to being a scammer.

He sent me another message (second one) but he lied again. I told him he is a liar and that I will try to save people from investing in Minecoin.

Temhuk sent me another message (third one) saying he and his scammer friends "will do everything to destroy my reputation"

 ::)


SO GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH A CACTUS TEMKUNT.


 :-* :-* :-*


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: yurez83 on February 08, 2019, 04:25:28 PM
Therefore, users who distribute my photos without my knowledge have such status as thieves. They stole it and now use it in their messages, edit it, etc.

Funny reply, so what about those using trump's image without his knowledge all over the internet?. If you want people to stop using your photos on the internet without your permission then you need to stop posting them on the web and better still avoid using the web. Like previous users have said, i don't see any of the claims above as plagiarism, when you commit plagiarism you steal people's work and claim it as yours and fair use of your picture isn't plagiarism period.


First, find at least one of the photos on the Internet and show me here! They are unique, as you will not find any of them, which is already the right to authorship. And I have the originals and the camera, which they were shot. I will issue a certificate for you - do not worry. I have already contacted a lawyer. And be sure that anyone who uses it without my permission will break the law.

And let you be adequate and not compare a public person, a state person with a private person. You still give as an example of an actor who earns his face ...)))))
The most striking thing is that the matter is not in the faces and if even the photo shows nature and I am the author of this photo, then using the photo without my permission is also a violation of my rights attorneys.
And if you distribute a photo taken by Trump himself at home, you will also violate Trump's copyright.

 So do not talk nonsense.

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What kind of illegal things?
Who mentioned illegal usage of photos, you or me?
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The last straw was the publication of insults and trolling with the illegal usage of my photos in other topics that were not even in the "scam" section.

2. Only the court has the right to establish the legality or lawlessness of some facts.
Is this court of law? Or discussion forum?

3. The fact that the user once did a favor and then slandered other people 100 times is useful?
Isn't the fact that user posted facts?

4. The user has the right to only assume, suspect, have an opinion or an inclination (like - do not like the project).
Can we say that user, based on facts presented in thread, have right to assume and suspect that minex is scam and discuss about it?

And also indicate that no investigations are legally binding, as they are not conducted by authorized services, but in turn, these “false accusations” can be prosecuted.
Ever heard of news reporters?

1. I created a channel under a false name today, especially for you fools.    :D :D :D :D :D :D
Now you are complaining that someone is using your picture and personal information.

As you said this isn't your name, and now you are pretending to be a guy which you claim you are not, luring people to register under your referral link for your own financial gains, isn't that called identity theft?

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Identity theft is the deliberate use of someone else's identity, usually as a method to gain a financial advantage or obtain credit and other benefits in the other person's name, and perhaps to the other person's disadvantage or loss. The person whose identity has been assumed may suffer adverse consequences, especially if they are held responsible for the perpetrator's actions. Identity theft occurs when someone uses another's personally identifying information, like their name, identifying number, or credit card number, without their permission, to commit fraud or other crimes.
source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_theft)

In case identity is really yours (which you claim it isn't), there are also other laws for this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg49587152#msg49587152 so make sure to read all laws regarding your...referral link.


1. What is the illegality of my attraction of people to the coin? It is forbidden? Not? Then it is better for you to be silent.

2. So then spend a discussion here and do not claim that someone is a crook or not a crook.
 There is a presumption of innocence: Anyone held accountable for a criminal offense is presumed innocent until proven otherwise. (Art. 383 of the New York Code of Criminal Procedure).

3. User facts are not legal facts. Neither the court nor even a lawyer established them. It's just his subjective reflections - no more.

4. It may suspect, but based on its opinion, but not on facts that are not proven by authorized bodies. It can also be assumed but not blamed. NEVER CANNOT BE ACCUSED WITHOUT OFFICIAL EVIDENCE! That's when the fact is proved by the court - then it can. Maybe then jump on his head, discussing the fact of fraud to someone else.

5. No comments. I heard the nightingales sing.

6. I had the right to defend myself. My lie did no harm to anyone. I hoped then that these users would stop and stop disseminating information. Is this prohibited by law ??

7. To begin, I will inform you that my links are not valid and the referral program was completed on January 24th. I just copied what was at hand. And even if I used it, it does not contradict any law, since it is officially authorized by Chain2Pay OÜ.

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P.S. Here everyone can see what BitPotus is capable of. A person who can only insult, sexually harass, and blame someone.

It sounds like that. He is guilty. Why? Because I'm so sure.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: mosprognoz on February 08, 2019, 04:31:53 PM
But Minexcoin is 100% legal company.

Where is it registered? Could you show us the registration documents?

which providing bank card service to their customers.

Cards (That are not working any more) are issued by Upay for the company called  UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS which is a Lithuanian tableware trading company. The people that received or are waiting for cards have nothing to do with the company mentioned above. Could you please explain That?



I think it's time to create another topic at Bicointalk where devs of all coins can cooperate against extortionists and thru the court or by free will of Bitcointalk get their personal data and pass that to the police to judge them by law. That is pure crime which happens in Bitcointalk

I think it is time to get the personal data of all Minexcoin developers and forward it to police, because of online fraud, card fraud, and illegal financial activities. But don't worry, people who received fraudulent cards and lost their money in your scam will do that without our help and all of you will go to the jail. One scammer Yurii Pogrebnijak is already exposed and believe me all others will join him very soon.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: yurez83 on February 08, 2019, 04:36:13 PM
But Minexcoin is 100% legal company.

Where is it registered? Could you show us the registration documents?

which providing bank card service to their customers.

Cards (That are not working any more) are issued by Upay for the company called  UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS which is a Lithuanian tableware trading company. The people that received or are waiting for cards have nothing to do with the company mentioned above. Could you please explain That?



I think it's time to create another topic at Bicointalk where devs of all coins can cooperate against extortionists and thru the court or by free will of Bitcointalk get their personal data and pass that to the police to judge them by law. That is pure crime which happens in Bitcointalk

I think it is time to get the personal data of all Minexcoin developers and forward it to police, because of online fraud, card fraud, and illegal financial activities. But don't worry, people who received fraudulent cards and lost their money in your scam will do that without our help and all of you will go to the jail. One scammer Yurii Pogrebnijak is already exposed and believe me all others will join him very soon.

You are not a court to prove to you. If something is not right for you - contact the police! Or just shut your mouth. This is rude, but true.
Nobody is obliged to prove anything to you. The company operates legally with all the documents, as it has lawyers who are smarter than you.

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And add. I didn’t create a topic for discussing the company, but about using false accusations to me using my copyright photos, editing to humiliate and insult and share personal data without my permission.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: mosprognoz on February 08, 2019, 04:48:02 PM
If something is not right for you - contact the police!

I already did...

http://www.fntt.lt/en/

https://ssu.gov.ua/ua/pages/30

https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/merchants/safety-security/suspect-fraud.html

The company operates legally with all the documents

Could you please show us that documents?

I didn’t create a topic for discussing the company, but about using false accusations to me using my copyright photos, editing to humiliate and insult and share personal data without my permission.

Please provide the proof that your photos are copyrighted. (Copyright registration documents)

Nobody is obliged to prove anything to you

I bought some of minex shitcoins and now you can consider me as a investor. So I have rights to ask legal questions about your scammy project.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: BitPotus on February 08, 2019, 04:53:43 PM


P.S. Here everyone can see what BitPotus is capable of. A person who can only insult, sexually harass, and blame someone.

It sounds like that. He is guilty. Why? Because I'm so sure.

Wow.

Didn't know you were feeling "sexually harrassed'.

If it's any consolation, I love women only and exclusively

So please accept my apologies if I have made you feel weird and uncomfortable.

Any self respecting male wouldn't feel threatened by some colourful language but hey, who am I to judge?

And yes, am guilty of helping to bring to light your dishonest and scammy ways.

And for that am not sorry.

Regards.



Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: yurez83 on February 08, 2019, 04:59:47 PM
If something is not right for you - contact the police!

I already did...

http://www.fntt.lt/en/

https://ssu.gov.ua/ua/pages/30

https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/merchants/safety-security/suspect-fraud.html

The company operates legally with all the documents

Could you please show us that documents?

I didn’t create a topic for discussing the company, but about using false accusations to me using my copyright photos, editing to humiliate and insult and share personal data without my permission.

Please provide the proof that your photos are copyrighted. (Copyright registration documents)

Nobody is obliged to prove anything to you

I bought some of minex shitcoins and now you can consider me as a investor. So I have rights to ask legal questions about your scammy project.

If done - I'm very happy for you.

I answer your questions:
1. You have the right to request documents from the company, but they have the right not to disclose. I do not work in the company and even if I worked, that is, the company's policy of confidentiality in order not to disclose my internal documents. At the request of the court I think they will provide.

2. I have already written a message earlier that I will provide a certificate for my copyright photos as soon as it is ready. This will take some time. Although according to the law, having the original, I already obsess over authorship.

3. I will disappoint you, but having bought coins in the market you are not an investor.
Explains:
Imagine a factory for the manufacture of machines. He sells cars around the world. You buy a car that has been in use at one of the shops. I ask you a question - are you an investor ??? Do not talk nonsense.
You would be an investor at the ICO stage. But not now. There are no stocks and shareholders.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: JollyGood on February 08, 2019, 05:39:12 PM
I don't allow to use my copyright photos on the forum

Do you have officially copyrighted your photos ? If yes, please show us the registration certificate. All your photos that are posted here, are in public access in your social media profiles. You are afraid that some Russian criminal dudes, hired by people who lost money in your scam, will find you and fuck you up your scammy ass. I strongly suggest you, to go to the jail yourself, before that dudes will find you. Scamming people and stealing their money is not a good idea, and the final result of that action, will be similar to what is happening now with you, and with whole minex project scam.

MINEX = Ponzi Scam (Check the rates of "parking" coins)

MINEX = Fraudulent Cards (Check the name of the company on so called "Minex" aka Upay cards)

MINEX = Stealing peoples identity via fake KYC (Check the procedures of receiving Minex card)

Conclusion: MINEX = SCAM.  

Another excellent post from a user which basically says it how it is....

Minex is a major scam. The way they are using Upaycards and passing them off as their own is both pathetic and shocking. The rest of the Minex history and its scam can be seen here because they have their official threads censored to avoid being exposed and humiliated as scammers: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.0


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: TeMHuK on February 08, 2019, 06:11:07 PM
I don't allow to use my copyright photos on the forum

Do you have officially copyrighted your photos ? If yes, please show us the registration certificate. All your photos that are posted here, are in public access in your social media profiles. You are afraid that some Russian criminal dudes, hired by people who lost money in your scam, will find you and fuck you up your scammy ass. I strongly suggest you, to go to the jail yourself, before that dudes will find you. Scamming people and stealing their money is not a good idea, and the final result of that action, will be similar to what is happening now with you, and with whole minex project scam.

MINEX = Ponzi Scam (Check the rates of "parking" coins)

MINEX = Fraudulent Cards (Check the name of the company on so called "Minex" aka Upay cards)

MINEX = Stealing peoples identity via fake KYC (Check the procedures of receiving Minex card)

Conclusion: MINEX = SCAM.  

1. Learn what is Ponzi. At Minexcoin all rewards are paid from fees from each mined block = FUDder fail

2. Minexpay providing 100% legal cards from Upay = Another FUDder fail

3. Minexcoin using side company which providing KYC services for many companies = FUDder fail

Conclusion: you are dumb FUDder and your owner will not pay you anything. Jolly is stupid FUDder as well. Your business will be ended on Bitcointalk, nobody will pay you a penny anymore.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: JollyGood on February 08, 2019, 06:39:05 PM
If something is not right for you - contact the police!

I already did...

http://www.fntt.lt/en/

https://ssu.gov.ua/ua/pages/30

https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/merchants/safety-security/suspect-fraud.html

The company operates legally with all the documents

Could you please show us that documents?

I didn’t create a topic for discussing the company, but about using false accusations to me using my copyright photos, editing to humiliate and insult and share personal data without my permission.

Please provide the proof that your photos are copyrighted. (Copyright registration documents)

Nobody is obliged to prove anything to you

I bought some of minex shitcoins and now you can consider me as a investor. So I have rights to ask legal questions about your scammy project.


Great news!

I am so happy you reported these scammers. I know several other forum members did it too.

Hopefully their scam house of cards called Minexcoin/Minexpay/Minexsystems will come falling down very soon.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: thunderjet on February 08, 2019, 08:07:32 PM
I don't allow to use my copyright photos on the forum

Do you have officially copyrighted your photos ? If yes, please show us the registration certificate. All your photos that are posted here, are in public access in your social media profiles. You are afraid that some Russian criminal dudes, hired by people who lost money in your scam, will find you and fuck you up your scammy ass. I strongly suggest you, to go to the jail yourself, before that dudes will find you. Scamming people and stealing their money is not a good idea, and the final result of that action, will be similar to what is happening now with you, and with whole minex project scam.

MINEX = Ponzi Scam (Check the rates of "parking" coins)

MINEX = Fraudulent Cards (Check the name of the company on so called "Minex" aka Upay cards)

MINEX = Stealing peoples identity via fake KYC (Check the procedures of receiving Minex card)

Conclusion: MINEX = SCAM.  
MNEX is useless shittoken. But Minexcoin is 100% legal company which providing bank card service to their customers. FUDders which extorted money from Minexcoin now attacking that project, same like many other projects. Jollygood and his popped thunderjet are frauders. I hope admins of Bitcointalk will found connection with person named in this link https://medium.com/@minecoinorg/minexcoin-resolutely-reacted-to-the-raging-crime-in-the-network-reward-20-btc-4a23e1ae2f34

I think it's time to create another topic at Bicointalk where devs of all coins can cooperate against extortionists and thru the court or by free will of Bitcointalk get their personal data and pass that to the police to judge them by law. That is pure crime which happens in Bitcointalk.


You are lying non-stop. You are intentionally connecting innocent people who pointed on scam projects you and your buddies operate to some ukranian/russian fraudsters you had a problem almost 2 years ago.

Money extortion is very serious allegation for which you have no evidence at all. Absolutely nothing.You and Yurez83 are repeating that big lie,thinking if you throw enough mud on me and other people it will hide your fradulent operations - Offenders are trying to present themselves as a victims.

Minexcoin is not legit company.In fact it does not exist. Minexsystems formed different not-existing virtual companies not registred anywhere and running them.Minexcoin and Minexpay were not registred anywhere,only Minexsystems and Chain2pay.You are claiming how Minexcoin and Minexpay are affiliated companies of Minexsystems and Chain2pay,but that is not true ,because they are not registred anywhere and cant be affiliated to anything. Minexsystems was not registred before 22.Aug.2017,but still, it collected a lot of money in pre-ICO nad ICO phase.

"Your" cards are completely illegitimate. You are using lithuanian company UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS to disguise yourself and yours business - that is definition of money laundering.That company with no reported employees and revenues is paying your customers via business Upaycard. It is soooo deeply fradulent operation and we will see what will Upaycard,Mastercard and FCA will tell about it after they finish investigation.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: yurez83 on February 08, 2019, 08:30:42 PM
I don't allow to use my copyright photos on the forum

Do you have officially copyrighted your photos ? If yes, please show us the registration certificate. All your photos that are posted here, are in public access in your social media profiles. You are afraid that some Russian criminal dudes, hired by people who lost money in your scam, will find you and fuck you up your scammy ass. I strongly suggest you, to go to the jail yourself, before that dudes will find you. Scamming people and stealing their money is not a good idea, and the final result of that action, will be similar to what is happening now with you, and with whole minex project scam.

MINEX = Ponzi Scam (Check the rates of "parking" coins)

MINEX = Fraudulent Cards (Check the name of the company on so called "Minex" aka Upay cards)

MINEX = Stealing peoples identity via fake KYC (Check the procedures of receiving Minex card)

Conclusion: MINEX = SCAM.   


Money extortion is very serious allegation for which you have no evidence at all. Absolutely nothing.You and Yurez83 are repeating that big lie,thinking if you throw enough mud on me and other people it will hide your fradulent operations - Offenders are trying to present themselves as a victims.


I would not respond to this message, because just like your "company of friends", you (probably) violate the law by spreading your assumptions in the form of facts. .
I will keep silent about the dirt that I was doused in - it is all visible in the links at the beginning of the topic. If I responded in an uncivilized manner, then I admit. I'm a man too. But slander ....
In the United States of America, a very severe punishment is applied for libel, so you know. The punishment for defamation can reach up to $ 250 thousand fine or 10 years imprisonment. So please consider Thunderjet before blaming me and anyone else.

  I also have the right to assume that you are a scammer and they pay you to bury the company Chain2pay, since it is a competitor of company X - the card issuer. But it will be just my guess. I can create a new topic where I will call you fraudsters. And I will lay out my "pre-prescriptive facts." But I will not do this simply because there is the police and the ship system for this. If I see fit, I will inform them of you.



Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: JollyGood on February 08, 2019, 08:41:25 PM
You are lying non-stop. You are intentionally connecting innocent people who pointed on scam projects you and your buddies operate to some ukranian/russian fraudsters you had a problem almost 2 years ago.

Money extortion is very serious allegation for which you have no evidence at all. Absolutely nothing.You and Yurez83 are repeating that big lie,thinking if you throw enough mud on me and other people it will hide your fradulent operations - Offenders are trying to present themselves as a victims.

Minexcoin is not legit company.In fact it does not exist. Minexsystems formed different not-existing virtual companies not registred anywhere and running them.Minexcoin and Minexpay were not registred anywhere,only Minexsystems and Chain2pay.You are claiming how Minexcoin and Minexpay are affiliated companies of Minexsystems and Chain2pay,but that is not true ,because they are not registred anywhere and cant be affiliated to anything. Minexsystems was not registred before 22.Aug.2017,but still, it collected a lot of money in pre-ICO nad ICO phase.

"Your" cards are completely illegitimate. You are using lithuanian company UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS to disguise yourself and yours business - that is definition of money laundering.That company with no reported employees and revenues is paying your customers via business Upaycard. It is soooo deeply fradulent operation and we will see what will Upaycard,Mastercard and FCA will tell about it after they finish investigation.


I wonder what scammer yurez83 (also known as Yurii Pogrebnijak) would say after reading your comment.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: yurez83 on February 08, 2019, 09:00:06 PM
You are lying non-stop. You are intentionally connecting innocent people who pointed on scam projects you and your buddies operate to some ukranian/russian fraudsters you had a problem almost 2 years ago.

Money extortion is very serious allegation for which you have no evidence at all. Absolutely nothing.You and Yurez83 are repeating that big lie,thinking if you throw enough mud on me and other people it will hide your fradulent operations - Offenders are trying to present themselves as a victims.

Minexcoin is not legit company.In fact it does not exist. Minexsystems formed different not-existing virtual companies not registred anywhere and running them.Minexcoin and Minexpay were not registred anywhere,only Minexsystems and Chain2pay.You are claiming how Minexcoin and Minexpay are affiliated companies of Minexsystems and Chain2pay,but that is not true ,because they are not registred anywhere and cant be affiliated to anything. Minexsystems was not registred before 22.Aug.2017,but still, it collected a lot of money in pre-ICO nad ICO phase.

"Your" cards are completely illegitimate. You are using lithuanian company UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS to disguise yourself and yours business - that is definition of money laundering.That company with no reported employees and revenues is paying your customers via business Upaycard. It is soooo deeply fradulent operation and we will see what will Upaycard,Mastercard and FCA will tell about it after they finish investigation.


I wonder what scammer yurez83 (also known as xxxxxxxxxxxx) would say after reading your comment.

I ask to turn the moderators, that there is a violation of the rules and trolling. User JollyGood in spite of the foregoing distribution violations DOX continues to do this + trolling.



Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: TeMHuK on February 08, 2019, 09:03:16 PM
You are lying non-stop. You are intentionally connecting innocent people who pointed on scam projects you and your buddies operate to some ukranian/russian fraudsters you had a problem almost 2 years ago.

Money extortion is very serious allegation for which you have no evidence at all. Absolutely nothing.You and Yurez83 are repeating that big lie,thinking if you throw enough mud on me and other people it will hide your fradulent operations - Offenders are trying to present themselves as a victims.

Minexcoin is not legit company.In fact it does not exist. Minexsystems formed different not-existing virtual companies not registred anywhere and running them.Minexcoin and Minexpay were not registred anywhere,only Minexsystems and Chain2pay.You are claiming how Minexcoin and Minexpay are affiliated companies of Minexsystems and Chain2pay,but that is not true ,because they are not registred anywhere and cant be affiliated to anything. Minexsystems was not registred before 22.Aug.2017,but still, it collected a lot of money in pre-ICO nad ICO phase.

"Your" cards are completely illegitimate. You are using lithuanian company UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS to disguise yourself and yours business - that is definition of money laundering.That company with no reported employees and revenues is paying your customers via business Upaycard. It is soooo deeply fradulent operation and we will see what will Upaycard,Mastercard and FCA will tell about it after they finish investigation.


I wonder what scammer yurez83  would say after reading your comment.
Calling someone for scammer or frauder is criminal offence it specially if it's done at public place(forum for example). One day someone will call you and your friends to prove your words. I warned you and your friends.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: thunderjet on February 08, 2019, 09:37:06 PM
I don't allow to use my copyright photos on the forum

Do you have officially copyrighted your photos ? If yes, please show us the registration certificate. All your photos that are posted here, are in public access in your social media profiles. You are afraid that some Russian criminal dudes, hired by people who lost money in your scam, will find you and fuck you up your scammy ass. I strongly suggest you, to go to the jail yourself, before that dudes will find you. Scamming people and stealing their money is not a good idea, and the final result of that action, will be similar to what is happening now with you, and with whole minex project scam.

MINEX = Ponzi Scam (Check the rates of "parking" coins)

MINEX = Fraudulent Cards (Check the name of the company on so called "Minex" aka Upay cards)

MINEX = Stealing peoples identity via fake KYC (Check the procedures of receiving Minex card)

Conclusion: MINEX = SCAM.   


You are lying non-stop. You are intentionally connecting innocent people who pointed on scam projects you and your buddies operate to some ukranian/russian fraudsters you had a problem almost 2 years ago.

Money extortion is very serious allegation for which you have no evidence at all. Absolutely nothing.You and Yurez83 are repeating that big lie,thinking if you throw enough mud on me and other people it will hide your fradulent operations - Offenders are trying to present themselves as a victims.

Minexcoin is not legit company.In fact it does not exist. Minexsystems formed different not-existing virtual companies not registred anywhere and running them.Minexcoin and Minexpay were not registred anywhere,only Minexsystems and Chain2pay.You are claiming how Minexcoin and Minexpay are affiliated companies of Minexsystems and Chain2pay,but that is not true ,because they are not registred anywhere and cant be affiliated to anything. Minexsystems was not registred before 22.Aug.2017,but still, it collected a lot of money in pre-ICO nad ICO phase.

"Your" cards are completely illegitimate. You are using lithuanian company UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS to disguise yourself and yours business - that is definition of money laundering.That company with no reported employees and revenues is paying your customers via business Upaycard. It is soooo deeply fradulent operation and we will see what will Upaycard,Mastercard and FCA will tell about it after they finish investigation.



I would not respond to this message, because just like your "company of friends", you (probably) violate the law by spreading your assumptions in the form of facts. .
I will keep silent about the dirt that I was doused in - it is all visible in the links at the beginning of the topic. If I responded in an uncivilized manner, then I admit. I'm a man too. But slander ....
In the United States of America, a very severe punishment is applied for libel, so you know. The punishment for defamation can reach up to $ 250 thousand fine or 10 years imprisonment. So please consider Thunderjet before blaming me and anyone else.

  I also have the right to assume that you are a scammer and they pay you to bury the company Chain2pay, since it is a competitor of company X - the card issuer. But it will be just my guess. I can create a new topic where I will call you fraudsters. And I will lay out my "pre-prescriptive facts." But I will not do this simply because there is the police and the ship system for this. If I see fit, I will inform them of you.



You are talking nonsenses. Nobody spreading anything.Every mine assumption has a cover in documents,unlike you, who are spreading Minex/Republia propaganda with no support in anything. You and your buddies did not respond to any of these "assumptions". You were attacking me round the clock with so many insults,curses and no meaningful answers. You were closed your open thread and started new, censored.

You were thinking that you found a nice loophole with that  - you can attack people you dont like as much as you can and at the same time you will delete any theirs response/post you dont like. That is massive abuse of freedom of speech - attacking someone and deny him/her right to answer.So ,please dont speak about any rights any more,until you and your buddies give others right to speech free.

You are making posts that I and few other people are money extorsionists. Do you realise what you are talking about? How serious is that? At the same time you dont have not a single evidence for that.That is not even remotely assumption - it is a massive lie ,based on nothing,made to cover with mud people you dont like it.

At the same time you were promoting a UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS card in your posts with a false promo video in which it is falsely presented as Minexpay branded card. You were very well aware that there is no Minexpay branded card,but anyway you keep promoting that obvious lie, deceving people to invest in it and take a card which is not existed.Well,that is a pure fraud. Or it is not when you are making it  ;)

Dont threat me with severe punishment.Iam not a person who is afraid of you and your buddies. Your money extortion and "pay to bury Chain2pay" allegations,without any proofs, is not simply defamation,but it is much more serious crime. You can just imagine how big is money compensation for spreading such kind of lies.

You and your buddies buried Minex project with your behaviour. You were spreading false or half-truth informations,attacking anyone who do not agree with yours views. Nobody prevented you to realise whitelist you promised to investors when you are taking theirs money or to make legitimate payment card program. When people wrote how they lost money due to yours lies you were laughing on theirs loses ,talking to them how stupid they are ,idiots and throwing many,many other insults. You probably expected that people give you money and shut up,so you can do with theirs money anything you want.

When a company is laughing and insulting to people who lost money due to believe in theirs promises, it is a without any doubt a SCAM company.Only SCAMMERS are laughing on other people losses.



Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: TeMHuK on February 08, 2019, 09:51:50 PM
I don't allow to use my copyright photos on the forum

Do you have officially copyrighted your photos ? If yes, please show us the registration certificate. All your photos that are posted here, are in public access in your social media profiles. You are afraid that some Russian criminal dudes, hired by people who lost money in your scam, will find you and fuck you up your scammy ass. I strongly suggest you, to go to the jail yourself, before that dudes will find you. Scamming people and stealing their money is not a good idea, and the final result of that action, will be similar to what is happening now with you, and with whole minex project scam.

MINEX = Ponzi Scam (Check the rates of "parking" coins)

MINEX = Fraudulent Cards (Check the name of the company on so called "Minex" aka Upay cards)

MINEX = Stealing peoples identity via fake KYC (Check the procedures of receiving Minex card)

Conclusion: MINEX = SCAM.  


You are lying non-stop. You are intentionally connecting innocent people who pointed on scam projects you and your buddies operate to some ukranian/russian fraudsters you had a problem almost 2 years ago.

Money extortion is very serious allegation for which you have no evidence at all. Absolutely nothing.You and Yurez83 are repeating that big lie,thinking if you throw enough mud on me and other people it will hide your fradulent operations - Offenders are trying to present themselves as a victims.

Minexcoin is not legit company.In fact it does not exist. Minexsystems formed different not-existing virtual companies not registred anywhere and running them.Minexcoin and Minexpay were not registred anywhere,only Minexsystems and Chain2pay.You are claiming how Minexcoin and Minexpay are affiliated companies of Minexsystems and Chain2pay,but that is not true ,because they are not registred anywhere and cant be affiliated to anything. Minexsystems was not registred before 22.Aug.2017,but still, it collected a lot of money in pre-ICO nad ICO phase.

"Your" cards are completely illegitimate. You are using lithuanian company UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS to disguise yourself and yours business - that is definition of money laundering.That company with no reported employees and revenues is paying your customers via business Upaycard. It is soooo deeply fradulent operation and we will see what will Upaycard,Mastercard and FCA will tell about it after they finish investigation.



I would not respond to this message, because just like your "company of friends", you (probably) violate the law by spreading your assumptions in the form of facts. .
I will keep silent about the dirt that I was doused in - it is all visible in the links at the beginning of the topic. If I responded in an uncivilized manner, then I admit. I'm a man too. But slander ....
In the United States of America, a very severe punishment is applied for libel, so you know. The punishment for defamation can reach up to $ 250 thousand fine or 10 years imprisonment. So please consider Thunderjet before blaming me and anyone else.

  I also have the right to assume that you are a scammer and they pay you to bury the company Chain2pay, since it is a competitor of company X - the card issuer. But it will be just my guess. I can create a new topic where I will call you fraudsters. And I will lay out my "pre-prescriptive facts." But I will not do this simply because there is the police and the ship system for this. If I see fit, I will inform them of you.



You are talking nonsenses. Nobody spreading anything.Every mine assumption has a cover in documents,unlike you, who are spreading Minex/Republia propaganda with no support in anything. You and your buddies did not respond to any of these "assumptions". You were attacking me round the clock with so many insults,curses and no meaningful answers. You were closed your open thread and started new, censored.

You were thinking that you found a nice loophole with that  - you can attack people you dont like as much as you can and at the same time you will delete any theirs response/post you dont like. That is massive abuse of freedom of speech - attacking someone and deny him/her right to answer.So ,please dont speak about any rights any more,until you and your buddies give others right to speech free.

You are making posts that I and few other people are money extorsionists. Do you realise what you are talking about? How serious is that? At the same time you dont have not a single evidence for that.That is not even remotely assumption - it is a massive lie ,based on nothing,made to cover with mud people you dont like it.

At the same time you were promoting a UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS card in your posts with a false promo video in which it is falsely presented as Minexpay branded card. You were very well aware that there is no Minexpay branded card,but anyway you keep promoting that obvious lie, deceving people to invest in it and take a card which is not existed.Well,that is a pure fraud. Or it is not when you are making it  ;)

Dont threat me with severe punishment.Iam not a person who is afraid of you and your buddies. Your money extortion and "pay to bury Chain2pay" allegations,without any proofs, is not simply defamation,but it is much more serious crime. You can just imagine how big is money compensation for spreading such kind of lies.

You and your buddies buried Minex project with your behaviour. You were spreading false or half-truth informations,attacking anyone who do not agree with yours views. Nobody prevented you to realise whitelist you promised to investors when you are taking theirs money or to make legitimate payment card program. When people wrote how they lost money due to yours lies you were laughing on theirs loses ,talking to them how stupid they are ,idiots and throwing many,many other insults. You probably expected that people give you money and shut up,so you can do with theirs money anything you want.

When a company is laughing and insulting to people who lost money due to believe in theirs promises, it is a without any doubt a SCAM company.Only SCAMMERS are laughing on other people losses.


Looks like you don't understand how serious is situation now. It's not a merit earning for you or just a game. You and your friend are not judges. If you are calling people and companies for frauders and scammers without court allowance be ready for calling to the court too.  

I'm requesting Bitcointalk supports to prosecute Jollygood and thunderjet for slandering now. They are breaking criminal law at your forum.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: JollyGood on February 08, 2019, 10:07:00 PM
I don't allow to use my copyright photos on the forum

Do you have officially copyrighted your photos ? If yes, please show us the registration certificate. All your photos that are posted here, are in public access in your social media profiles. You are afraid that some Russian criminal dudes, hired by people who lost money in your scam, will find you and fuck you up your scammy ass. I strongly suggest you, to go to the jail yourself, before that dudes will find you. Scamming people and stealing their money is not a good idea, and the final result of that action, will be similar to what is happening now with you, and with whole minex project scam.

MINEX = Ponzi Scam (Check the rates of "parking" coins)

MINEX = Fraudulent Cards (Check the name of the company on so called "Minex" aka Upay cards)

MINEX = Stealing peoples identity via fake KYC (Check the procedures of receiving Minex card)

Conclusion: MINEX = SCAM.   


You are lying non-stop. You are intentionally connecting innocent people who pointed on scam projects you and your buddies operate to some ukranian/russian fraudsters you had a problem almost 2 years ago.

Money extortion is very serious allegation for which you have no evidence at all. Absolutely nothing.You and Yurez83 are repeating that big lie,thinking if you throw enough mud on me and other people it will hide your fradulent operations - Offenders are trying to present themselves as a victims.

Minexcoin is not legit company.In fact it does not exist. Minexsystems formed different not-existing virtual companies not registred anywhere and running them.Minexcoin and Minexpay were not registred anywhere,only Minexsystems and Chain2pay.You are claiming how Minexcoin and Minexpay are affiliated companies of Minexsystems and Chain2pay,but that is not true ,because they are not registred anywhere and cant be affiliated to anything. Minexsystems was not registred before 22.Aug.2017,but still, it collected a lot of money in pre-ICO nad ICO phase.

"Your" cards are completely illegitimate. You are using lithuanian company UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS to disguise yourself and yours business - that is definition of money laundering.That company with no reported employees and revenues is paying your customers via business Upaycard. It is soooo deeply fradulent operation and we will see what will Upaycard,Mastercard and FCA will tell about it after they finish investigation.



I would not respond to this message, because just like your "company of friends", you (probably) violate the law by spreading your assumptions in the form of facts. .
I will keep silent about the dirt that I was doused in - it is all visible in the links at the beginning of the topic. If I responded in an uncivilized manner, then I admit. I'm a man too. But slander ....
In the United States of America, a very severe punishment is applied for libel, so you know. The punishment for defamation can reach up to $ 250 thousand fine or 10 years imprisonment. So please consider Thunderjet before blaming me and anyone else.

  I also have the right to assume that you are a scammer and they pay you to bury the company Chain2pay, since it is a competitor of company X - the card issuer. But it will be just my guess. I can create a new topic where I will call you fraudsters. And I will lay out my "pre-prescriptive facts." But I will not do this simply because there is the police and the ship system for this. If I see fit, I will inform them of you.



You are talking nonsenses. Nobody spreading anything.Every mine assumption has a cover in documents,unlike you, who are spreading Minex/Republia propaganda with no support in anything. You and your buddies did not respond to any of these "assumptions". You were attacking me round the clock with so many insults,curses and no meaningful answers. You were closed your open thread and started new, censored.

You were thinking that you found a nice loophole with that  - you can attack people you dont like as much as you can and at the same time you will delete any theirs response/post you dont like. That is massive abuse of freedom of speech - attacking someone and deny him/her right to answer.So ,please dont speak about any rights any more,until you and your buddies give others right to speech free.

You are making posts that I and few other people are money extorsionists. Do you realise what you are talking about? How serious is that? At the same time you dont have not a single evidence for that.That is not even remotely assumption - it is a massive lie ,based on nothing,made to cover with mud people you dont like it.

At the same time you were promoting a UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS card in your posts with a false promo video in which it is falsely presented as Minexpay branded card. You were very well aware that there is no Minexpay branded card,but anyway you keep promoting that obvious lie, deceving people to invest in it and take a card which is not existed.Well,that is a pure fraud. Or it is not when you are making it  ;)

Dont threat me with severe punishment.Iam not a person who is afraid of you and your buddies. Your money extortion and "pay to bury Chain2pay" allegations,without any proofs, is not simply defamation,but it is much more serious crime. You can just imagine how big is money compensation for spreading such kind of lies.

You and your buddies buried Minex project with your behaviour. You were spreading false or half-truth informations,attacking anyone who do not agree with yours views. Nobody prevented you to realise whitelist you promised to investors when you are taking theirs money or to make legitimate payment card program. When people wrote how they lost money due to yours lies you were laughing on theirs loses ,talking to them how stupid they are ,idiots and throwing many,many other insults. You probably expected that people give you money and shut up,so you can do with theirs money anything you want.

When a company is laughing and insulting to people who lost money due to believe in theirs promises, it is a without any doubt a SCAM company.Only SCAMMERS are laughing on other people losses.


What is that makes Yurii and temhuk so blind to the scams Minex is carrying out?

Yurii is brand ambassador for Minex sister scam company and temhuk is heavily invested in Minex and needs the price to rise otherwise he will lose everything.

Since over 99% of Minexcoin value has been lost since its peak of over $56 it means temhuk is financially finished. Yurii is trying to make money regardless of how many people get scammed.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: thunderjet on February 08, 2019, 10:07:55 PM
I don't allow to use my copyright photos on the forum

Do you have officially copyrighted your photos ? If yes, please show us the registration certificate. All your photos that are posted here, are in public access in your social media profiles. You are afraid that some Russian criminal dudes, hired by people who lost money in your scam, will find you and fuck you up your scammy ass. I strongly suggest you, to go to the jail yourself, before that dudes will find you. Scamming people and stealing their money is not a good idea, and the final result of that action, will be similar to what is happening now with you, and with whole minex project scam.

MINEX = Ponzi Scam (Check the rates of "parking" coins)

MINEX = Fraudulent Cards (Check the name of the company on so called "Minex" aka Upay cards)

MINEX = Stealing peoples identity via fake KYC (Check the procedures of receiving Minex card)

Conclusion: MINEX = SCAM.  


You are lying non-stop. You are intentionally connecting innocent people who pointed on scam projects you and your buddies operate to some ukranian/russian fraudsters you had a problem almost 2 years ago.

Money extortion is very serious allegation for which you have no evidence at all. Absolutely nothing.You and Yurez83 are repeating that big lie,thinking if you throw enough mud on me and other people it will hide your fradulent operations - Offenders are trying to present themselves as a victims.

Minexcoin is not legit company.In fact it does not exist. Minexsystems formed different not-existing virtual companies not registred anywhere and running them.Minexcoin and Minexpay were not registred anywhere,only Minexsystems and Chain2pay.You are claiming how Minexcoin and Minexpay are affiliated companies of Minexsystems and Chain2pay,but that is not true ,because they are not registred anywhere and cant be affiliated to anything. Minexsystems was not registred before 22.Aug.2017,but still, it collected a lot of money in pre-ICO nad ICO phase.

"Your" cards are completely illegitimate. You are using lithuanian company UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS to disguise yourself and yours business - that is definition of money laundering.That company with no reported employees and revenues is paying your customers via business Upaycard. It is soooo deeply fradulent operation and we will see what will Upaycard,Mastercard and FCA will tell about it after they finish investigation.



I would not respond to this message, because just like your "company of friends", you (probably) violate the law by spreading your assumptions in the form of facts. .
I will keep silent about the dirt that I was doused in - it is all visible in the links at the beginning of the topic. If I responded in an uncivilized manner, then I admit. I'm a man too. But slander ....
In the United States of America, a very severe punishment is applied for libel, so you know. The punishment for defamation can reach up to $ 250 thousand fine or 10 years imprisonment. So please consider Thunderjet before blaming me and anyone else.

  I also have the right to assume that you are a scammer and they pay you to bury the company Chain2pay, since it is a competitor of company X - the card issuer. But it will be just my guess. I can create a new topic where I will call you fraudsters. And I will lay out my "pre-prescriptive facts." But I will not do this simply because there is the police and the ship system for this. If I see fit, I will inform them of you.



You are talking nonsenses. Nobody spreading anything.Every mine assumption has a cover in documents,unlike you, who are spreading Minex/Republia propaganda with no support in anything. You and your buddies did not respond to any of these "assumptions". You were attacking me round the clock with so many insults,curses and no meaningful answers. You were closed your open thread and started new, censored.

You were thinking that you found a nice loophole with that  - you can attack people you dont like as much as you can and at the same time you will delete any theirs response/post you dont like. That is massive abuse of freedom of speech - attacking someone and deny him/her right to answer.So ,please dont speak about any rights any more,until you and your buddies give others right to speech free.

You are making posts that I and few other people are money extorsionists. Do you realise what you are talking about? How serious is that? At the same time you dont have not a single evidence for that.That is not even remotely assumption - it is a massive lie ,based on nothing,made to cover with mud people you dont like it.

At the same time you were promoting a UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS card in your posts with a false promo video in which it is falsely presented as Minexpay branded card. You were very well aware that there is no Minexpay branded card,but anyway you keep promoting that obvious lie, deceving people to invest in it and take a card which is not existed.Well,that is a pure fraud. Or it is not when you are making it  ;)

Dont threat me with severe punishment.Iam not a person who is afraid of you and your buddies. Your money extortion and "pay to bury Chain2pay" allegations,without any proofs, is not simply defamation,but it is much more serious crime. You can just imagine how big is money compensation for spreading such kind of lies.

You and your buddies buried Minex project with your behaviour. You were spreading false or half-truth informations,attacking anyone who do not agree with yours views. Nobody prevented you to realise whitelist you promised to investors when you are taking theirs money or to make legitimate payment card program. When people wrote how they lost money due to yours lies you were laughing on theirs loses ,talking to them how stupid they are ,idiots and throwing many,many other insults. You probably expected that people give you money and shut up,so you can do with theirs money anything you want.

When a company is laughing and insulting to people who lost money due to believe in theirs promises, it is a without any doubt a SCAM company.Only SCAMMERS are laughing on other people losses.


Looks like you don't understand how serious is situation now. It's not a merit earning for you or just a game. You and your friend are not judges. If you are calling people and companies for frauders and scammers without court allowance be ready for calling to the court too.  

When you take money from the people,spent money on something else and did not realise anything for what they gave you a money it is calling a fraud,scam, whatever you like. You(and not just you) were abusing non-regulate ICO business laws to do whatever you want without consequences.

Minexsystems is operating inside Ukraine,most of theirs employees are from Ukraine,but Minexsystems/Minexpay is not registred in Ukraine for running any business. Minex systems is operating business inside Ukraine without any business registration ,avoiding paying taxes and other obligations which any company who is doing a business inside Ukraine has to do.Dont even talk about breaking very restrictive ukrainian laws about sending money abroad.Minexsystems is providing payment services from Ukraine,despite it is not even registred in Ukraine and has no license to operating payment services from Ukraine.

 


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: TeMHuK on February 08, 2019, 10:22:05 PM
I don't allow to use my copyright photos on the forum

Do you have officially copyrighted your photos ? If yes, please show us the registration certificate. All your photos that are posted here, are in public access in your social media profiles. You are afraid that some Russian criminal dudes, hired by people who lost money in your scam, will find you and fuck you up your scammy ass. I strongly suggest you, to go to the jail yourself, before that dudes will find you. Scamming people and stealing their money is not a good idea, and the final result of that action, will be similar to what is happening now with you, and with whole minex project scam.

MINEX = Ponzi Scam (Check the rates of "parking" coins)

MINEX = Fraudulent Cards (Check the name of the company on so called "Minex" aka Upay cards)

MINEX = Stealing peoples identity via fake KYC (Check the procedures of receiving Minex card)

Conclusion: MINEX = SCAM.  


You are lying non-stop. You are intentionally connecting innocent people who pointed on scam projects you and your buddies operate to some ukranian/russian fraudsters you had a problem almost 2 years ago.

Money extortion is very serious allegation for which you have no evidence at all. Absolutely nothing.You and Yurez83 are repeating that big lie,thinking if you throw enough mud on me and other people it will hide your fradulent operations - Offenders are trying to present themselves as a victims.

Minexcoin is not legit company.In fact it does not exist. Minexsystems formed different not-existing virtual companies not registred anywhere and running them.Minexcoin and Minexpay were not registred anywhere,only Minexsystems and Chain2pay.You are claiming how Minexcoin and Minexpay are affiliated companies of Minexsystems and Chain2pay,but that is not true ,because they are not registred anywhere and cant be affiliated to anything. Minexsystems was not registred before 22.Aug.2017,but still, it collected a lot of money in pre-ICO nad ICO phase.

"Your" cards are completely illegitimate. You are using lithuanian company UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS to disguise yourself and yours business - that is definition of money laundering.That company with no reported employees and revenues is paying your customers via business Upaycard. It is soooo deeply fradulent operation and we will see what will Upaycard,Mastercard and FCA will tell about it after they finish investigation.



I would not respond to this message, because just like your "company of friends", you (probably) violate the law by spreading your assumptions in the form of facts. .
I will keep silent about the dirt that I was doused in - it is all visible in the links at the beginning of the topic. If I responded in an uncivilized manner, then I admit. I'm a man too. But slander ....
In the United States of America, a very severe punishment is applied for libel, so you know. The punishment for defamation can reach up to $ 250 thousand fine or 10 years imprisonment. So please consider Thunderjet before blaming me and anyone else.

  I also have the right to assume that you are a scammer and they pay you to bury the company Chain2pay, since it is a competitor of company X - the card issuer. But it will be just my guess. I can create a new topic where I will call you fraudsters. And I will lay out my "pre-prescriptive facts." But I will not do this simply because there is the police and the ship system for this. If I see fit, I will inform them of you.



You are talking nonsenses. Nobody spreading anything.Every mine assumption has a cover in documents,unlike you, who are spreading Minex/Republia propaganda with no support in anything. You and your buddies did not respond to any of these "assumptions". You were attacking me round the clock with so many insults,curses and no meaningful answers. You were closed your open thread and started new, censored.

You were thinking that you found a nice loophole with that  - you can attack people you dont like as much as you can and at the same time you will delete any theirs response/post you dont like. That is massive abuse of freedom of speech - attacking someone and deny him/her right to answer.So ,please dont speak about any rights any more,until you and your buddies give others right to speech free.

You are making posts that I and few other people are money extorsionists. Do you realise what you are talking about? How serious is that? At the same time you dont have not a single evidence for that.That is not even remotely assumption - it is a massive lie ,based on nothing,made to cover with mud people you dont like it.

At the same time you were promoting a UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS card in your posts with a false promo video in which it is falsely presented as Minexpay branded card. You were very well aware that there is no Minexpay branded card,but anyway you keep promoting that obvious lie, deceving people to invest in it and take a card which is not existed.Well,that is a pure fraud. Or it is not when you are making it  ;)

Dont threat me with severe punishment.Iam not a person who is afraid of you and your buddies. Your money extortion and "pay to bury Chain2pay" allegations,without any proofs, is not simply defamation,but it is much more serious crime. You can just imagine how big is money compensation for spreading such kind of lies.

You and your buddies buried Minex project with your behaviour. You were spreading false or half-truth informations,attacking anyone who do not agree with yours views. Nobody prevented you to realise whitelist you promised to investors when you are taking theirs money or to make legitimate payment card program. When people wrote how they lost money due to yours lies you were laughing on theirs loses ,talking to them how stupid they are ,idiots and throwing many,many other insults. You probably expected that people give you money and shut up,so you can do with theirs money anything you want.

When a company is laughing and insulting to people who lost money due to believe in theirs promises, it is a without any doubt a SCAM company.Only SCAMMERS are laughing on other people losses.


Looks like you don't understand how serious is situation now. It's not a merit earning for you or just a game. You and your friend are not judges. If you are calling people and companies for frauders and scammers without court allowance be ready for calling to the court too.  

When you took money from the people,spent money on something else and did not realise anything for what they give you a money it is calling a fraud,scam, whatever you like. You(and not just you) were abusing non-regulate ICO business laws to do whatever you want without consequences.

Minexsystems is operating inside Ukraine,most of theirs employees are from Ukraine,but Minexsystems/Minexpay is not registred in Ukraine for running any business. Minex systems is operating business inside Ukraine without any business registration ,avoiding paying taxes and other obligations which any company who is doing a business inside Ukraine has to do.Dont even talk about breaking very restrictive ukrainian laws about sending money abroad.Minexsystems is providing payment services from Ukraine,despite it is not even registred in Ukraine and has no license to operating payment services from Ukraine.

 
Why you erased my request to the Bitcointalk admins in your message? And again, you are not a judge. You can't call people or companies for frauders or scammers if you want to do that. Because that's slandering. And I will repeat my request to the admins.

I'm requesting Bitcointalk admins to prosecute Jollygood and thunderjet for slandering now. They are breaking criminal law at your forum.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: thunderjet on February 08, 2019, 10:28:06 PM
I don't allow to use my copyright photos on the forum

Do you have officially copyrighted your photos ? If yes, please show us the registration certificate. All your photos that are posted here, are in public access in your social media profiles. You are afraid that some Russian criminal dudes, hired by people who lost money in your scam, will find you and fuck you up your scammy ass. I strongly suggest you, to go to the jail yourself, before that dudes will find you. Scamming people and stealing their money is not a good idea, and the final result of that action, will be similar to what is happening now with you, and with whole minex project scam.

MINEX = Ponzi Scam (Check the rates of "parking" coins)

MINEX = Fraudulent Cards (Check the name of the company on so called "Minex" aka Upay cards)

MINEX = Stealing peoples identity via fake KYC (Check the procedures of receiving Minex card)

Conclusion: MINEX = SCAM.  


You are lying non-stop. You are intentionally connecting innocent people who pointed on scam projects you and your buddies operate to some ukranian/russian fraudsters you had a problem almost 2 years ago.

Money extortion is very serious allegation for which you have no evidence at all. Absolutely nothing.You and Yurez83 are repeating that big lie,thinking if you throw enough mud on me and other people it will hide your fradulent operations - Offenders are trying to present themselves as a victims.

Minexcoin is not legit company.In fact it does not exist. Minexsystems formed different not-existing virtual companies not registred anywhere and running them.Minexcoin and Minexpay were not registred anywhere,only Minexsystems and Chain2pay.You are claiming how Minexcoin and Minexpay are affiliated companies of Minexsystems and Chain2pay,but that is not true ,because they are not registred anywhere and cant be affiliated to anything. Minexsystems was not registred before 22.Aug.2017,but still, it collected a lot of money in pre-ICO nad ICO phase.

"Your" cards are completely illegitimate. You are using lithuanian company UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS to disguise yourself and yours business - that is definition of money laundering.That company with no reported employees and revenues is paying your customers via business Upaycard. It is soooo deeply fradulent operation and we will see what will Upaycard,Mastercard and FCA will tell about it after they finish investigation.



I would not respond to this message, because just like your "company of friends", you (probably) violate the law by spreading your assumptions in the form of facts. .
I will keep silent about the dirt that I was doused in - it is all visible in the links at the beginning of the topic. If I responded in an uncivilized manner, then I admit. I'm a man too. But slander ....
In the United States of America, a very severe punishment is applied for libel, so you know. The punishment for defamation can reach up to $ 250 thousand fine or 10 years imprisonment. So please consider Thunderjet before blaming me and anyone else.

  I also have the right to assume that you are a scammer and they pay you to bury the company Chain2pay, since it is a competitor of company X - the card issuer. But it will be just my guess. I can create a new topic where I will call you fraudsters. And I will lay out my "pre-prescriptive facts." But I will not do this simply because there is the police and the ship system for this. If I see fit, I will inform them of you.



You are talking nonsenses. Nobody spreading anything.Every mine assumption has a cover in documents,unlike you, who are spreading Minex/Republia propaganda with no support in anything. You and your buddies did not respond to any of these "assumptions". You were attacking me round the clock with so many insults,curses and no meaningful answers. You were closed your open thread and started new, censored.

You were thinking that you found a nice loophole with that  - you can attack people you dont like as much as you can and at the same time you will delete any theirs response/post you dont like. That is massive abuse of freedom of speech - attacking someone and deny him/her right to answer.So ,please dont speak about any rights any more,until you and your buddies give others right to speech free.

You are making posts that I and few other people are money extorsionists. Do you realise what you are talking about? How serious is that? At the same time you dont have not a single evidence for that.That is not even remotely assumption - it is a massive lie ,based on nothing,made to cover with mud people you dont like it.

At the same time you were promoting a UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS card in your posts with a false promo video in which it is falsely presented as Minexpay branded card. You were very well aware that there is no Minexpay branded card,but anyway you keep promoting that obvious lie, deceving people to invest in it and take a card which is not existed.Well,that is a pure fraud. Or it is not when you are making it  ;)

Dont threat me with severe punishment.Iam not a person who is afraid of you and your buddies. Your money extortion and "pay to bury Chain2pay" allegations,without any proofs, is not simply defamation,but it is much more serious crime. You can just imagine how big is money compensation for spreading such kind of lies.

You and your buddies buried Minex project with your behaviour. You were spreading false or half-truth informations,attacking anyone who do not agree with yours views. Nobody prevented you to realise whitelist you promised to investors when you are taking theirs money or to make legitimate payment card program. When people wrote how they lost money due to yours lies you were laughing on theirs loses ,talking to them how stupid they are ,idiots and throwing many,many other insults. You probably expected that people give you money and shut up,so you can do with theirs money anything you want.

When a company is laughing and insulting to people who lost money due to believe in theirs promises, it is a without any doubt a SCAM company.Only SCAMMERS are laughing on other people losses.


Looks like you don't understand how serious is situation now. It's not a merit earning for you or just a game. You and your friend are not judges. If you are calling people and companies for frauders and scammers without court allowance be ready for calling to the court too.  

When you took money from the people,spent money on something else and did not realise anything for what they give you a money it is calling a fraud,scam, whatever you like. You(and not just you) were abusing non-regulate ICO business laws to do whatever you want without consequences.

Minexsystems is operating inside Ukraine,most of theirs employees are from Ukraine,but Minexsystems/Minexpay is not registred in Ukraine for running any business. Minex systems is operating business inside Ukraine without any business registration ,avoiding paying taxes and other obligations which any company who is doing a business inside Ukraine has to do.Dont even talk about breaking very restrictive ukrainian laws about sending money abroad.Minexsystems is providing payment services from Ukraine,despite it is not even registred in Ukraine and has no license to operating payment services from Ukraine.

 
Why you erasing my request to the Bitcointalk admins? And again, you are not a judge. You can't call people or companies for frauders or scammers if you want to do that. Because that's slandering. And I will repeat my request to the admins.

I'm requesting Bitcointalk admins to prosecute Jollygood and thunderjet for slandering now. They are breaking criminal law at your forum.


Iam not erasing anything. I just started to write mine answer BEFORE you reedited your post. You can repeat you requests as much as you can(you did it so many times before), but if you are doing fradulent things,spreading lies and laughing on people loses,insulting and cursing them, I will call you and others like you, a scammer every single time you do something like that.



Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: JollyGood on February 08, 2019, 10:40:07 PM
Iam not erasing anything. I just started to write mine answer BEFORE you reedited your post. You can repeat you requests as much as you can(you did it so many times before), but if you are doing fradulent things,spreading lies and laughing on people loses,insulting and cursing them, I will call you and others like you, a scammer every single time you do something like that.

I do not know how you have the patience to even read posts from Yurii Pohrebniak (yurez83) and temhuk. I have those scammers on IGNORE because that is what they deserve.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: thunderjet on February 08, 2019, 11:00:35 PM
Iam not erasing anything. I just started to write mine answer BEFORE you reedited your post. You can repeat you requests as much as you can(you did it so many times before), but if you are doing fradulent things,spreading lies and laughing on people loses,insulting and cursing them, I will call you and others like you, a scammer every single time you do something like that.

I do not know how you have the patience to even read posts from Yurii Pohrebniak (yurez83) and temhuk. I have those scammers on IGNORE because that is what they deserve.

You have to listen people even if you dont agree with them at all. If I put them on Ignore I would not be aware about big lies they are spreading about me and others.

One more thing. Theirs posts gave me so many valuable informations about how they are really working from inside. They are truly precious source of informations about Minexsystems/Minexpay/Chain2pay/Republia. Even theirs disinformations gave me valuable insight about what is happenning inside theirs inner circle.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: marlboroza on February 08, 2019, 11:05:52 PM
But Minexcoin is 100% legal company.

Where is it registered? Could you show us the registration documents?

which providing bank card service to their customers.

Cards (That are not working any more) are issued by Upay for the company called  UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS which is a Lithuanian tableware trading company. The people that received or are waiting for cards have nothing to do with the company mentioned above. Could you please explain That?



I think it's time to create another topic at Bicointalk where devs of all coins can cooperate against extortionists and thru the court or by free will of Bitcointalk get their personal data and pass that to the police to judge them by law. That is pure crime which happens in Bitcointalk

I think it is time to get the personal data of all Minexcoin developers and forward it to police, because of online fraud, card fraud, and illegal financial activities. But don't worry, people who received fraudulent cards and lost their money in your scam will do that without our help and all of you will go to the jail. One scammer Yurii Pogrebnijak is already exposed and believe me all others will join him very soon.

That looks bad.

https://i.imgur.com/5ZAk6aQ.png

I would be very pissed if I had ordered Minex's VISA card and received UPay's mastercard.

https://i.imgur.com/BTiZ648.png

Minex should revise this (http://archive.is/y090S):

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The Future of MinexMinexBank’s monetary policy serves the main purpose of making MinexCoin a global reserve cryptocurrency. In order to attain it, MinexCoin will have to meet the following principles:-   Simplicity and high speed of transactions-   Exchange rate stability and predictability against U.S. Dollar-   Market cap of $1 trillionMinexBank will consistently administer the policy of increasing MNX price against USD on the basis of the growth rate of 33.6% annually. Once MinexCoin issuance is over at block 5,400,000, its price will reach $52,600, and market cap $1 trillion.

To this:

https://i.imgur.com/R1uZtMv.png

^^^
I'm requesting Bitcointalk admins to prosecute Jollygood and thunderjet for slandering now. They are breaking criminal law at your forum.
Which law this breakes?


- If you have a copyright claim, you have to PM/email me a valid DCMA takedown notice with all required elements, including your address, a declaration under penalty of perjury, etc. Note that I will forward your notice to the affected users.
Somehow I have feeling this won't happen.


Title: Re: Publication of copyright photos without permission (plagiarism), personal data..
Post by: xtraelv on February 09, 2019, 03:13:23 AM

Thank you for information. I know what you're talking about, but there are several points:
- Links must go to the source of information, where the author's information was posted.
- It is not allowed to distort, edit the integrity of information, without the consent of the author, especially with the aim of humiliating, causing moral damage, etc.

 This is similar to how I will take someone's author's song, vozmu change words, where I will insult the author of the song and will spread on the Internet - by making a link to it on some of the servers on the Internet.

 Therefore, users who distribute my photos without my knowledge have such status as thieves. They stole it and now use it in their messages, edit it, etc.


The links do go to the source of the information.
You cannot load images to the bitcointalk server.

While an image displays as:

https://media.wired.com/photos/59331aa458b0d64bb35d4543/master/w_576,c_limit/copyright-troll.jpg

It is on the site from an external link (framing)

Code:
[img]https://media.wired.com/photos/59331aa458b0d64bb35d4543/master/w_576,c_limit/copyright-troll.jpg[/img]
It was sourced from here: https://www.wired.com/2012/03/troll-forfeits-copyrights/


The issues is DOXing. The photos should be in the investigations section.

In my opinion there is no copyright on those photos used for "fair use".
It is non commercial use of the photos for reporting purposes and parody. The photos also don't appear to have commercial value.

The factors considered are:
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the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
the nature of the copyrighted work;
the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

Non registered works are also difficult to prove "breach of copyright". https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-register.html
Chances are that you also signed some of your rights away when posting it on social media. (Their terms and conditions).