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Title: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: mirawantirinjana on February 11, 2019, 04:08:37 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: tuanytcc on February 11, 2019, 05:12:26 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

It is very hard to find the solution way when happens dispute issues if their team and DEV of project don't appear. You should be careful to decide


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Indrawan77 on February 11, 2019, 05:20:46 AM
Its better to check the project more details, an escrow can be a good indicator especially with a positive trust but we still need to see the team and developers, its one of the important thing to check in a project, so I think I wont join the project if the developers team refuse to show up


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: lukeburchill on February 11, 2019, 05:32:42 AM
atm, isn't be confirmed 100% scam/not, but almost all members in this forum are very scared of red paint so that positive trust will at least guarantee.

if later the project is a scam, some participants can open threads on  Scam Accusations and for escrow (a person) can open threads on Reputation


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: bittraffic on February 11, 2019, 05:33:01 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

Its possible that it isn't a scam but there are still things to consider about it like what was being escrowed, was it BTC or some tokens they created like ERC20 token?
The point being said is that most of the reputable people here prefer to be paid with BTC so that the team has something to guarantee to the bounty hunters and investors.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: cissrawk on February 11, 2019, 05:47:00 AM
If the escrow is reputable, then it probably not scam. However, project that not showing their team is a bit shady, even with escrow.
May i know what project is that? And who's escrowing them?


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: JeffBrad12 on February 11, 2019, 07:09:04 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
As long as the escrow hold all of the funds and that will be safe but remember the escrow must never try to send any amount to the developer until it will prove itself with some progress on the development. This is having a big risk for me personally.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Bttzed03 on February 11, 2019, 07:14:47 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

That is interesting. This is the first time I've read a team do this.
Anyway, setting up escrow signifies that they are acting in good faith.
But from past experiences of anonymous teams, I would suggest to be very careful with them. While they could be legit, the project might not take of because community might not be confident enough to invest.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: CLywaTeLb on February 11, 2019, 07:20:24 AM
In addition, even a green trust can have its price... The transparency of the team and its actions regarding the project should be.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: bitmover on February 11, 2019, 07:21:22 AM
The escrow is a good indicator about the bounty payment. Not about the ico itself.

He ico may be a total scam, and they still pay you with their fake money in the bounty


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: lllaqpt on February 11, 2019, 07:22:04 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
And then themes appear, they delayed payments, they applied KYC, so there is nothing ideal in this area, there is deception everywhere.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: bit-freedom on February 11, 2019, 08:26:24 AM
Having an escrow only guarantee that you will be receiving the tokens. To determine whether project is scam, I guess you have to look into more aspect such as the business model and why is the team anonymous. It is better not to invest if you have doubts in the project.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Adhichan on February 11, 2019, 08:49:39 AM
Having an escrow only guarantee that you will be receiving the tokens. To determine whether project is scam, I guess you have to look into more aspect such as the business model and why is the team anonymous. It is better not to invest if you have doubts in the project.
at least their show their commitment to their investors that their projects will not going anywhere after receiveing money from investors.as we know now many projects lie to their investor and going run after they get money from us.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: rijaljun on February 11, 2019, 09:02:53 AM
A trusted escrow service is only ensure that the fund will be used for what a project said to people. But, it doesn't guarantee that the project deliver their plans or roadmap. It means a project can still scam their investors by not delivering  what have been planned.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: as9ardia on February 11, 2019, 09:04:39 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

I don't know what others opinion (SCAM/LEGIT) but I do some research about the project and found some interesting for me. and they decide to not showing developer teams is because privacy (u can join their telegram group and you will find the reason)

I guess the project is same with signature that i wear.  ;)



Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: romero121 on February 11, 2019, 09:28:40 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
There are few trusted escrow service rendering members in our forum. If they've been taking responsibility then it is good to be a part of the project. Apart from that it isn't good to get into traps of users who render escrow services. Those trusted escrow renderers of our forum won't accept if it is a scam project.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: shirackjs on February 11, 2019, 09:32:33 AM
The team might want to be private because of some reasons. Why don’t you ask the team directly? With escrow, it is adding reliability to team willingness to distribute token after ICO.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Ranly123 on February 11, 2019, 09:35:17 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

I think that the escrowed project is more trustworthy and less prone to scam because the devs will not handle the campaign. Most likely, the escrow is responsible for giving the bounty on time as contracted to the bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on February 11, 2019, 09:42:16 AM
Depends on who will be the escrow. First question is who is the escrow, is he/she in anyway related to any of the developers or owner of the project. There was an issue here before about "self escrow", the seller of the item is the escrow by using another account and this is also possible on those projects since its easy to grab someone else's picture and create a new name and that scenario is not far from happening.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Turkish88 on February 11, 2019, 09:43:18 AM
In what currency escrow keep funds.
If it token of ico project then its not guarantee nothing


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: tippytoes on February 11, 2019, 09:44:54 AM
You will never know, that escrow might be one from the team. The reason why they are anonymous and just use one of their accounts here. Unless, the escrow is a known reputable member in this forum.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: klaaas on February 11, 2019, 09:54:20 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

No, It is strange at least that there isnt a team/dev noted. A escrow would decrease some risks when holding the dev funds for example but it boils down to how much you trust the escrow handling it.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Absolutep on February 11, 2019, 09:55:33 AM
I don't think an escrow been part of a project is good enough to believe that a project is not a scam, you need more than that and that is why you need to do more research about the project.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: mirawantirinjana on February 12, 2019, 10:29:08 AM
I don't think an escrow been part of a project is good enough to believe that a project is not a scam, you need more than that and that is why you need to do more research about the project.
so the possibility that this project is a scam is still very large, even though the token for payment for the entire bounty hunter has been held by an escrow but that is not a guarantee that the token will not become shitcoin.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: rosezionjohn on February 12, 2019, 03:42:42 PM
Even if they have escrow and acting in good faith, I would still stay away from that project. With an anonymous team, I doubt that they will be able to win investors confidence. It's going to fail.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: JohnMacZeppelin on February 12, 2019, 03:45:13 PM
In general, Escrow itself should have such guarantees, but of course in our world there is nothing 100% guaranteed. Therefore, I believe that now it is necessary to take these risks, which in any case exist despite escrow


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: mirawantirinjana on February 13, 2019, 10:53:10 AM
In general, Escrow itself should have such guarantees, but of course in our world there is nothing 100% guaranteed. Therefore, I believe that now it is necessary to take these risks, which in any case exist despite escrow
Escrow who handles this project already has a lot of positive trust. although I also understand that Escrow is not a guarantor that the project will be successful. however, a minimum of tokens allocated to bounty hunters has been held by an Escrow.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: sabine80 on February 13, 2019, 11:13:01 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
an escrow is certainly no guarantee that it is not a scam. it only guarantees that the participants are really paid by the escrow, but nothing more. so despite escrow you should be careful, especially if the dev team does not show up.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Thanasis on February 13, 2019, 11:16:11 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
An escrow is used to pay the bounty participants,I don't think there ia no assurance for the investors but you can trust them I hope, because normally trusted member will not ruin their reputation for some bucks.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: isen on February 13, 2019, 11:25:45 AM
Only if the bounty manager is the holder of the wallet on which payments are reserved, in this case the project may well be worth it.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Yurkov on February 13, 2019, 11:28:52 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

Interesting solution.. but I don't understand why dev team want to stay anonymous if the project is legit.
About escrow - In my opinion there not exist 100% sure third part.
The key to this situation is answer to the question why they use this kind solution for project?


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Ararbermas on February 13, 2019, 12:25:27 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
if the project provide escrow then it will not scam you especially if the escrow is trusted one here in forum . Which is only the owner of the project will be the problem .  But no need to worry because automatic escrow will published a post once the owner tolerate to release the payment and as soon as possible the one who contacted the escrow will be banned or will earn red trust here in forum. 


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: tamango on February 13, 2019, 12:28:02 PM
You should be careful anyway but if escrow is a well known and trusted one this is a good sign for sure.. personally I take always in considerations projects that have such escrow.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Quintrix on February 13, 2019, 12:31:14 PM
The escrow is a good indicator about the bounty payment. Not about the ico itself.

He ico may be a total scam, and they still pay you with their fake money in the bounty

It still goes up to the project, if the project is not good and turned out to be a scam then escrow is useless, you are going to get a token with no value and all works and efforts will go to waste, although escrow is a good indication but only one of the indication.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Imoote on February 13, 2019, 12:59:57 PM
I am a little doubt that the dev and the team are not visible even though they have good escrow for their support, because the party in charge is not visible and only relies on escrow, that is, I am a little doubtful if there is such a project.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: graffix on February 13, 2019, 01:15:53 PM
yeah, that's a really good thing to discuss. But I hope we can trust members with positive trust. that kind of people doesn't need to get black mark around here. So I think they will not represent an unknown party without proper transparency. I believe in escrows with positive trust.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: giletto on February 13, 2019, 01:22:29 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
Escrow will not be able to solve the problem that the project may be scam or not. It only ensures that you will definitely receive a token after the bounty ends, but whether or not the project succeeds must depend on the team


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: chipzeru on February 13, 2019, 01:28:03 PM
The project is likely not a scam if they're using reputable escrow, but still there's a possibility for that project to be scam since the project is not showing their team, even with escrow service. But in my opinion, a reputable escrow won't accept project with non visible team.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: susila_bai on February 13, 2019, 01:30:27 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
Escrow will not be able to solve the problem that the project may be scam or not. It only ensures that you will definitely receive a token after the bounty ends, but whether or not the project succeeds must depend on the team

I think if you see the reputed escrow user is involved then the scam option is very less. But the next point of project after completion whether going to list in exchange or not is another problem which escrow cannot handle.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: abahcoin on February 13, 2019, 01:31:04 PM
if the project uses escrow with positive trust it is likely that the project will not be a scam, because their money has been sent to escrow, it is likely that a scam can be from that escrow. because a good reputation cannot be a reference.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Farma on February 13, 2019, 01:31:09 PM
honestly, escrow will be a trusted guarantee if done by the right person. Having Escrow will make a business more reliable, especially in the bounty and signature fields. as far as I know, it really can make people more trusting, especially if it can be seen.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: izanagi narukami on February 13, 2019, 01:38:09 PM
When they decide to use escrow, they are that they are serious enough but it's not guarantee that the project success or not.
Remember that the project can be success depend on how they able to gather investor and explain the advantage of their project.

Personally when I selecting new project, I prefer the project that use legit escrow. At least , it's become the great start for them !


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: martin1221 on February 13, 2019, 01:44:05 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

The presence of an Escrow shows the commitment of the project to fulfill their promise to investors. Although this provide some sense of security to investors, it is still not an assurance about the success of the project. So it is still important to know more about the project to ensure its potential in the future.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Betwrong on February 13, 2019, 01:59:35 PM
In general, Escrow itself should have such guarantees, but of course in our world there is nothing 100% guaranteed. Therefore, I believe that now it is necessary to take these risks, which in any case exist despite escrow
Escrow who handles this project already has a lot of positive trust. although I also understand that Escrow is not a guarantor that the project will be successful. however, a minimum of tokens allocated to bounty hunters has been held by an Escrow.

Keep in mind that those tokens can worth nothing in the end. If the escrowed funds were held in BTC by someone with a lot of positive trust, it would be another case entirely. Whether the project successful or not, you would still get the payment for the job. But with tokens you can end up receiving $10 worth of tokens for 2-3 months of working for the project. Demand partial payment in BTC.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: CryptoAssasin on February 13, 2019, 02:07:31 PM
Using an escrow when participating to an ICO or a project is actually one of the best way to determine if your funds will be safe or not when you choose to invest with them but having no information with the team members and DEVs of that project is a red alert for me. Doing deeper research is still a must and trust issues when investing are always a problem. If I were you, I won't invest to a project with an unknown information.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: fallensky7 on February 13, 2019, 02:18:43 PM
That's right! Escrow can only guarantee the receipt of coins, but not their relevance in the market. If a team believes in its project, then why should it hide its faces? We must be careful


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: seggardinggins on February 13, 2019, 02:22:45 PM
If there are projects that are not visible to TIM and DEV, we need to be suspicious because there is a high probability that it will be a scam or a fake project. TEAM is the strongest reason, given the ideas that emerged from the TEAM, but that does not mean I say it is 100% fraud, we must increase our awareness so that we are not trapped in it. there are many important things to consider, analyze as much as possible before participating.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: khufuking on February 13, 2019, 02:25:32 PM
There is some situation where escrow acted wrong, having an escrow is not enough to prevent the scam it also depends heavily on which escrow you are talking about I do not think any trusted reputable escrow will agree on escrowing the money for an anonymous team behind an ICO unless there is very strong reason behind their anonymous thing, in my opinion just stay away from this project and find a better one where you can see the full team details and their profiles.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: jagaban on February 13, 2019, 02:26:53 PM
It depends. If the escrow funds is an already trading coin then it will probably be okay. But if the funds is in the tokens belonging to the project, then its still a risk because at any point the team can decide to stop the project or exit scam. Of course you will still get your tokens but it won't be worth shit anymore so no point in the end


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: funchiestz on February 13, 2019, 02:31:22 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

I think you should ask them to why they don't use smart contracts?

It is easiest way of distribute. But it should be support smart contract of course. (I assume it is Ethereum based)


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: LeetPoolsOP on February 13, 2019, 02:40:58 PM
it all depends on what kind of idea this project has. There are many projects that do not have a team, but the project is successful


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: JayCue on February 13, 2019, 02:54:23 PM
If the escrow is legit and has good ratings from its past projects then it might be legit.
But be aware that there are projects who's team are also part of the escrow team that sounds 'fishy'.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: yescrypto on February 13, 2019, 02:59:05 PM
And that doesn't guarantee you that you can trust them just because escrow is involved, the thing is project with real identity dev also find a way with people money, so as far the escrow is also human being it really hard to trust them. Just be careful of what and where to invest in, they're all good and bad.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: bassbity on February 13, 2019, 03:08:35 PM
if the project uses escrow with positive trust it is likely that the project will not be a scam, because their money has been sent to escrow, it is likely that a scam can be from that escrow. because a good reputation cannot be a reference.

I see an account with her positive credentials being a very safe escrow guarantee, if dev doesn't show up with escrow services it can also convince everyone.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Teamfearless on February 13, 2019, 03:19:18 PM
Nothing on this earth  has a 100% guaranteed .. But the fact that you dont know the team and the Dev doesn't mean you shouldn't trust , most at time You have to check the value of the Escrow platform and its reputation   ..  If a Project is Doing Escrow with bitcoin-talk there  is no need for me to  think about the anonymous  of Team or DEV all i have to think is the reputation of bitcointalk platform and the Team member .. But if  the Escrow Team is anonymous and Project Team is Anonymous there is no way i can trust the project ..  


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Classica35 on February 13, 2019, 03:47:55 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
I do not just trust any escrow, since i don't know them personally. I also once participated in a people that said the token to be paid are with escrow, yet it turned out to be scam.
If you ask them to present proof of the escrow details, they will, yet it might still be fake.
If any project is talking of using an escrow, they show use the admins or moderators on forums like bitcointalk.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: lobo13hf on February 13, 2019, 03:48:39 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
Escrow will not be able to solve the problem that the project may be scam or not. It only ensures that you will definitely receive a token after the bounty ends, but whether or not the project succeeds must depend on the team

I think if you see the reputed escrow user is involved then the scam option is very less. But the next point of project after completion whether going to list in exchange or not is another problem which escrow cannot handle.
Escrow hold the funds and if this working properly and then it might put the more protection to the investors. You can see that it will give us a lot of transparency about the platform. They don't have access to the funds and they must do the best to get it.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Niam_bakri on February 13, 2019, 03:51:01 PM
I see an account with her positive credentials being a very safe escrow guarantee, if dev doesn't show up with escrow services it can also convince everyone.
you are right, there are some escrow that can be chosen by the developer. but unfortunately not all developers think that, if they use escrow, from the point of view of investor confidence or bounty it will be very large. and that can strengthen their community.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: yrrehc16 on February 13, 2019, 03:51:35 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

It is an addition to the trust as they escrowed the funds. though you dont know if the account used is a bought account.
It is better to make research about the ICO and their project. include the team members.
You should look for it and not just the funds.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: jan.nicolas on February 13, 2019, 03:56:46 PM
Guarantees are clearly not about financial markets, although of course you have the opportunity to get insiders, then of course there are opportunities to reduce the risks that today still have to be correctly assessed.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: OcTA Bd on February 13, 2019, 03:56:56 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?


From my point of view, it depends on trust level.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: caffu chino on February 13, 2019, 04:02:44 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

the project with Escrow seems good. this can be a guarantee that if the project is problematic the funds can be returned. so it doesn't matter the project team is anonymous, but the problem is Escrow.

if what you say is true escrow has a good reputation, it might be worth a try. if you can know what the project is? I seem interested


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: accounting 181293 on February 13, 2019, 04:57:36 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

escrow is good, if indeed the project uses it, we should appreciate this. very rarely see projects using escrow at this time.

but for an anonymous development team, this can be a problem. I better not deal with projects like this. better a project with a team that we can know.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: mirawantirinjana on February 14, 2019, 07:30:44 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

escrow is good, if indeed the project uses it, we should appreciate this. very rarely see projects using escrow at this time.

but for an anonymous development team, this can be a problem. I better not deal with projects like this. better a project with a team that we can know.
ok, thank you for all the information, with this I will be more careful in participating in the bounty project. in closing I conclude that a project with escrow is a good step, but if there is no team, dev or other supporter, we must be more careful to follow it.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: wxganz on February 16, 2019, 06:54:48 PM
No, this is not a determining factor. Many projects with famous developers were sumomo or were frozen. For example Eternaltrust.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: macstrong12 on February 16, 2019, 07:02:39 PM
Since escrows are humans too and humans can make mistake there is no 100% guarantee, but if you use well-known escrows on this website, you can decrease the risk but always use escrows if you want to make a deal, it is always better to have it than you don't.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: melomanskiy on February 16, 2019, 07:11:51 PM
Whatever level of trust there is, in any project there should be a team open to contact with the message. And if this does not happen, then you should think. I would not risk it.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: hacker1001101001 on February 16, 2019, 07:21:39 PM
The project is likely not a scam if they're using reputable escrow, but still there's a possibility for that project to be scam since the project is not showing their team, even with escrow service. But in my opinion, a reputable escrow won't accept the project with non visible team.
Yes, if the Escrow is reputed then it will only accept the team which has the transparency.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: lizarder on February 16, 2019, 07:24:40 PM
in my opinion in terms of fraud only when making a transaction, but when the project is running it won't necessarily run smoothly because most projects even though it looks safe at the beginning at the end of the day it will get worse, but there are also projects that initially look bad but when the project is running it turns out that it will be good at the end even without using escrow


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Mcmich on February 16, 2019, 10:31:45 PM
It's not a determinant but at least with that you know the payments are already with the escrow especially in the case of Bounty. When it comes to trading, don't make the mistake of trusting an escrow with large amount of fund. Anything can happen.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: CryptoToxicAvenger on February 16, 2019, 11:37:51 PM
The command can use escrow for two reasons. Either they are really serious about the implementation of their project, or they do it in order to mislead investors.  Either way, I wouldn't trust a team that hides its identity.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Ultimist on February 16, 2019, 11:42:16 PM
The anonymity of the team it may not always mean something bad. But we have to be careful with that. If you really like the project, try to study it in detail. If you find some other things that are questionable for you, you should not invest in such a project.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: ceetoo224 on February 17, 2019, 05:53:51 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

In finding escrow, here is the best place where you can find some, I know krogothmanhattan is really a great escrow, try to see those that has allot of trust so you can assure the reliability of the transaction.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Nurma.A on February 17, 2019, 06:14:52 AM
Only this time I found this kind of thing. Supposedly, when a project is formed, there must be TIM and DEV. That's mandatory. If there is no one, it cannot be called a project. Even though they have a positive belief in escrow. This is a different thing. If you want to sell or buy coins from other people, and you need escrow, you need someone like this.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: smyslov on February 17, 2019, 06:25:05 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

A scam project is a scam project even if they escrow their token because in the end that token will worth nothing because they do not have plans to create the platform or fulfill their promise, so the escrow is useless, it's the project that counts.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: tranquangvinh on February 17, 2019, 06:47:38 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
If you can't find their team or developer, I think you shouldn't join that project because it's not clear. Now there are many projects that are scams, you should be careful before investing


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: joeperry on February 17, 2019, 07:08:20 AM
You can't determine a good project by holding the payment for their project to an escrow. Yes they will not scam in bounty hunters or in promoters of their project but it doesn't mean that they will not scam in their investors, the bounty campaigns is a way of promoting the project in order to get an investor for their project.

There's no exact way to tell if a project is going to be a scam but there are ways to avoid it:
- Checking if the team is legitimate or credible
- Solution of the project
- Problem they're going to solve
- Pictures of the team attending conferences or any events (Probably wearing the logo shirt or a logo can be seen in the event)

We have different ways to check if it's legit and this is some of the things I look whenever I wanted to invest in an ICO.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Pffrt on February 17, 2019, 07:19:01 AM
If escrow have a good positive feedback, I think it will not be a scam. In some cases, sometimes, escrow can also defualt and then it might be turned into scam. Is the escrow team consisted of one man, or more than one with multisig? That would ensure quite positivity.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Tamilson on February 17, 2019, 08:06:57 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
If you can't find their team or developer, I think you shouldn't join that project because it's not clear. Now there are many projects that are scams, you should be careful before investing

This is just simple, don't entrust your money to people that are anonymous. Even they say Nakamoto is anonymous and so they are, bitcoin had already prove itself, while their coin/token is still starting. Don't compare their project to bitcoin.

On the other hand, is the middle man is also a member here? You know don't be easily fooled by positive trust since everyone can put a trust to an account so they just look believable.
Finally, you can ask for an escrow address with a signed message.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Mmesooma1 on February 17, 2019, 08:17:23 AM
Escrow duties are performed by individuals or bodies with  high recommendations of trust by both parties. In our otc trade group where we trade btc and altcoins, only individuals with good character and have passed rigorous kyc tests with the group performs escrow jobs


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Osayo on February 17, 2019, 08:26:39 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

I wonder how such an escrow will function effectively to prevent a possible scam on the project. The escrow cannot be a guarantee and you must be careful about investing in any project with an anonymous team.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: lavoncoin88 on February 17, 2019, 09:40:00 AM
We can't assure, they dont choose a victim even escrow the scammer will not hesitate to attack. If escrow it is better than other campaign, if you say escrow the allocation token is secure that  it will distributed to the hunters. The only thing which is the same to the other project is the exchange listing. On that thing dev. Team is one to decided the listing but atleast the token is distributed and the waiting towards fiat is not too long.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: ynclksnr321 on February 17, 2019, 12:42:50 PM
Unfortunately there is no guarantee in this market. When we look at it taking into account that escrow really makes a lot of sense in this market. I definitely think it should be done.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Betwrong on February 23, 2019, 11:53:44 AM
The project is likely not a scam if they're using reputable escrow, but still there's a possibility for that project to be scam since the project is not showing their team, even with escrow service. But in my opinion, a reputable escrow won't accept the project with non visible team.
Yes, if the Escrow is reputed then it will only accept the team which has the transparency.

I can be wrong but I don't think this is how it usually works. If the Escrow is reputed then the escrowed money will be paid to the participants in compliance with the work done, and the team, even it has bad intentions, can't prevent that. The only bad thing that can happen (and you can never say whether it will happen or not in advance) is the price of the escrowed tokens can decline rapidly after the first appearance of them on the market. But that's technically not a scam, more like just bad luck. To avoid something like this, escrowed funds should be kept in BTC or ETH at least partially, at least 30% of them. Receiving 30% of the expected payment would be still better than nothing.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Ini35 on February 23, 2019, 04:02:47 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
If it is not so clear and you cannot trust them using any form of escrow as stated, it is better you go for another bounty that looks clearer to you.
What is the essence of hiding the team, if there is no hidden agenda.
I  believe in transparency wen it comes to investing in a project or participating in its bounty. I must know  those I am dealing with. Even the escrow in question, you do not know him.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: santiPOGI on February 23, 2019, 04:21:15 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

What is the escrow token/coins? if it is BTC or ETHEREUM then its good.
But if the escrow one is the coin of the project then it is still not a safe one!
why? well anyone can be paid after the bounty, MOYA TOKEN for example, LOONIE also is the one.
All participants are well paid, though they did not continue to EXCHANGES, even the investors left scammed!


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: hell_slayer on February 23, 2019, 05:04:23 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
In principle, escrow is a big plus for the reputation of the project and definitely adds confidence to it, but it is absolutely impossible to guarantee that they will not turn out to be scammers. Escrow can only guarantee that bounty hunters or other participants of the deal will receive the previously agreed remuneration after performing previously agreed tasks.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: desticy on February 23, 2019, 05:16:06 PM
It may well be that if the escrow service is trusted and has a good reputation, then the coins listed in advance increase the likelihood that everything will be fine with the project, however scammers are very tricky guys and the coin itself may end up being a scam.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: zhekinsp on February 23, 2019, 05:19:43 PM
Escrow means they are trusted third party who is holding bitcoin or tokens to pay the participants but they doesn't mean that project is worth to invest since escrow is also hired for doing the job nothing more.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Suslura on February 23, 2019, 06:02:39 PM
Escrow means they are trusted third party who is holding bitcoin or tokens to pay the participants but they doesn't mean that project is worth to invest since escrow is also hired for doing the job nothing more.
In any case, I’m on the path to Bitcoin storage by many reputable companies, as a great prospect of the entire cryptocurrency market in the near future, as well as in the distant future. And I hope that all this will affect the development now.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 23, 2019, 06:15:20 PM
As long as Escrow agent has a good reputation and the Escrow agent holds the money, I think the participants don't have to worry because they still get paid even if the project will scam in the next weeks. Using an Escrow is a must if the project wants to make the participants believe if their project is good and it could be a guarantee too for the participants. So if you're going to participate in one project, try to search for the Escrow so the payment will not have any problem.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: ifykiki on February 28, 2019, 11:16:56 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

Apart from positive trust what other criteria did you follow to figure out the the escrow is legit. This is money business and you have to be careful not to dive into the wrong waters


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: ifightformerkel on February 28, 2019, 11:32:14 AM
The project team is a key criterion when selecting a project. You can have a great idea, but without good specialists you will not be able to implement it. Therefore, if I do not see the development team and evaluate their skills, then I will bypass such a project.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: vixcious on February 28, 2019, 12:14:45 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
If they had a large margin enough to make people invest, why didn't they show up and disclose their information?
Why do they have to hide their information? all are just an excuse and they are trying to lure new investors. It is a scam and you should not invest in it.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Thanasis on February 28, 2019, 12:37:07 PM
As long as Escrow agent has a good reputation and the Escrow agent holds the money, I think the participants don't have to worry because they still get paid even if the project will scam in the next weeks. Using an Escrow is a must if the project wants to make the participants believe if their project is good and it could be a guarantee too for the participants. So if you're going to participate in one project, try to search for the Escrow so the payment will not have any problem.
But their work is to just hold the token and distribute tokens to the bounty participants so which doesn't ensure the quality anyone can hire an escrow and created useless token to distribute so people investing on those projects are really wasting their money.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: NewRanger on February 28, 2019, 12:43:26 PM
As long as Escrow agent has a good reputation and the Escrow agent holds the money, I think the participants don't have to worry because they still get paid even if the project will scam in the next weeks. Using an Escrow is a must if the project wants to make the participants believe if their project is good and it could be a guarantee too for the participants. So if you're going to participate in one project, try to search for the Escrow so the payment will not have any problem.
But their work is to just hold the token and distribute tokens to the bounty participants so which doesn't ensure the quality anyone can hire an escrow and created useless token to distribute so people investing on those projects are really wasting their money.
that's wrong dude.we need really trusted people to hold and distributing token.not everyone can maintain trust from other people.moreover if they hold huge amount.if they could do this till end periode we could call them trusted escrow.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: dirgayeah on February 28, 2019, 01:59:00 PM
Not every project with hidden team and dev are scammer. There's some loyal project stay behind the mask and still active and care with the community. So they are doing escrow with reputable escrow agent to prove us that they are serious.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: makerst on February 28, 2019, 02:04:01 PM
There are simply no guarantees and they simply cannot be. How can you still not understand this. Everything is very simple and very clear. In this market today there are no regulations that would guarantee us full success today. Therefore, we do not have big investors.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Tipstar on February 28, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
It would be difficult to reach in a conclusion unless you have proper details.
I don't think a full escrow for an ICO of a new company would even be possible.
There are many other ways of increasing the transparency and accountability of an ICO and escrow is just one of the factor.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: belli4388 on February 28, 2019, 02:40:49 PM

a trust escrow does not mean that an ico can not fail , it means that the funds, the investments are safe and that if the project should go wrong they will be returned to the investors,however, the various devs of a project should put photos and public names


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: billy.ryoko on February 28, 2019, 03:01:25 PM
No, the Escrow only can protect you receive the token or the coins after the ICO, but no one can guarantee this is the real project, you will receive the coins, but I think this is the shit coins without the project and the team, it maybe the scam, so stay away about this project.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Apes on February 28, 2019, 03:31:21 PM
if it's a bounty run by the manager and the funds have been escrowed to the trusted party. I think that's a good start. but like other say in this thread. You must be careful because there are many modes used by scamers to deceive bounty hunters and even investors. if the payment has been transferred in the form of a token it is also not a guarantee. It could be that it's shitcoin. if the funds in Escrow in the form of BTC or ETH are very good. just give a link..


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: chip1994 on February 28, 2019, 03:38:05 PM
Escrow? You're going to invest in an ICO project or you're just going to join their bounty campaign? Cause as I know they only use Escrow to hold their fund for bounty campaign that will make their bounty campaign more trustworthy. But if you're going to invest in an ICO project so you should stay away from it cause an ICO project without dev team is not trustworthy.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: dabenko on February 28, 2019, 05:28:21 PM
Why should people invest in a project that is not revealing its team? What is the essence?
Using escrow is not the solution. Even if they do not run away at the beginning, it might  happen at a stage that you do not expect and by then, they would have taken their profits.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: No Pain No blood on February 28, 2019, 05:31:55 PM
maybe, but now it's hard to find projects that use escrow. if they want to use escrow, maybe ico can do better. but escrow is not a guarantee because escrow can also be a scam. if you want to use Escrow you must have a good reputation.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: wxganz on February 28, 2019, 05:34:23 PM
This absolutely does not prove the fact that the project can not be itself. Because it's not enough. The most important thing to pay attention to the degree of readiness of the product and to work with the community. If these factors are positive. You can safely invest in such a project.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: sulis sudibyo on February 28, 2019, 05:35:16 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
not entirely true because escrow could be a scam, so don't trust it too much. but we must appreciate projects that use escrow because this indicates that they really want to maintain investor confidence.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: mahilchii on February 28, 2019, 05:47:20 PM
There are simply no guarantees and they simply cannot be. How can you still not understand this. Everything is very simple and very clear. In this market today there are no regulations that would guarantee us full success today. Therefore, we do not have big investors.

Exactly, when it comes to crypto you have to forget about guarantees and warranties, all you need is knowledge about the project and patience that it. Sometimes even the top coins go down without a reason, You need to be ready to face anything in this. If you think it as a risky one then yes it is.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: aprilnot on February 28, 2019, 05:50:28 PM
I think it can, this is actually one way to eliminate scam projects. This should encourage all new projects that want to start ICO using Escrow. by using that the funds are not directly held by the development team.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: adzino on February 28, 2019, 05:58:46 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
Having an escrow does not always mean that the project won't scam. You will find tons of threads where people accused other teams for scamming even with a escrow present (at the past). Its more like they build trust first, they hire escrow and pay people to show that they are legitimate. Once people start trusting them, boom!, they end up scamming. As long as there is an escrow they won't be able to scam, but they always can scam later.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Blockfolioz on February 28, 2019, 05:59:38 PM
There are trusted escrow service providers in our forum. Contacting them can get the best deal and these escrow service helps the buyer and seller the assurance on the trade and exchange of services. A very minimal amount will be charged for the service and there are free service providers as well.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: kidbounty on February 28, 2019, 06:01:32 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

yes it can be one of the determining indicators that the project is good or not. by using escrow we can be a little safer because the funds are not held directly by the team but are held by someone else. but there are only projects that already use Escrow but not as expected. when the project was finished ico they seemed to work not according to the roadmap. so there are no developments that can be felt by investors.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: r32godzilla on February 28, 2019, 06:07:22 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
It is better to avoid all 3rd parties and replaced them by smart contract that will automatically process the transaction. And that´s why Ethereum attracted so many investors due to smart contracts.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: cizatext on February 28, 2019, 06:31:38 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
Not seeing the team behind the project may be a direct trap into being scam, because the escrow you said may be behind the whole scam because in this cryptocurrency world no one can be 100% trusted. I suggest you take a deep look into the project again and get more information before going ahead to invest in it.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: chriseasan on February 28, 2019, 06:34:25 PM
I do not think it is a good idea to invest in such projects. The first thing that I always check before taking part in any project is are the team members and developers and if I do not see any of them, I would pass.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Caladonian on February 28, 2019, 06:41:05 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
Not seeing the team behind the project may be a direct trap into being scam, because the escrow you said may be behind the whole scam because in this cryptocurrency world no one can be 100% trusted. I suggest you take a deep look into the project again and get more information before going ahead to invest in it.
Escrow is there to handle the funds between investors and developers, though you seen escrows behind but without proper identity who's behind the project is too risky to invest your money, with how the market is moving you better to have much deeper knowledge about the project and the team itself, you need to avoid being victimized by scammers who already master everything and that's includes the possibility of even escrow can be victimized.

We are inside industry where you need to be more extra careful and deal with available precautions to protect your money.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Nwankwobtt on February 28, 2019, 07:05:11 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

Escrow is a trusted system or person which serves as middleman between two traders. To a large extent, escrows can be trusted because it passes the the confidence requirements of both parties


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Thanasis on February 28, 2019, 08:16:01 PM
As long as Escrow agent has a good reputation and the Escrow agent holds the money, I think the participants don't have to worry because they still get paid even if the project will scam in the next weeks. Using an Escrow is a must if the project wants to make the participants believe if their project is good and it could be a guarantee too for the participants. So if you're going to participate in one project, try to search for the Escrow so the payment will not have any problem.
But their work is to just hold the token and distribute tokens to the bounty participants so which doesn't ensure the quality anyone can hire an escrow and created useless token to distribute so people investing on those projects are really wasting their money.
that's wrong dude.we need really trusted people to hold and distributing token.not everyone can maintain trust from other people.moreover if they hold huge amount.if they could do this till end periode we could call them trusted escrow.
Still it doesn't meant to be that project is worth to invest just because of they hired a trusted person on bitcointalk,you also note that the trust system can be abused so don't just trust the people with green score on their profile just click the trust and get to the reference as well.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: letyouearn on February 28, 2019, 08:49:33 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

I don't the good escrow presence should be the decisive factor to someone to invest in ICO :)
You should analyse this project in whole, from different sides. If you check everything and there will be many reasons for you to chose this ICO, well, ok, do this at your own risk.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: capableuwa1 on February 28, 2019, 09:51:57 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
Statistics shows that about 91% if not 98% of such projects end up to be Scam in the nearest future. So the plan is always to stay away from such project as their are 100s of projects out there with legit team Info and Dev but still end up as scam. Please be guided because it won't be funny to start 2019 by investing in scam project.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: crenfrosck on February 28, 2019, 11:44:24 PM
Well, building trust is a very complex and difficult thing to make and MAINTAIN, so if I am in their position, I would not try deceiving people who put their trust in me because of the reputation. Long term gains usually exceed shorter ones and you are going to be ostracized by the whole community, which is definitely not worth that try. I believe they have seen more than we do and therefore they accepted the offer, or they are playing a very risky game which they can not win.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: mcTether on February 28, 2019, 11:46:51 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
I still don't understand how this escrows work. I recently came across a bounty campaign that suggested paying the participants through escrow too. Also, I would like to know who will be in charge of the escrow because I think the tokens won't automatically transfer to the users wallets.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: passwordnow on March 01, 2019, 05:46:08 AM
If it's on this forum, it can be an assurance that the funds for that bounty is escrowed and it's a plus for bounty hunters. Because there's an guarantee that all of your efforts will be paid through the funds on the escrow.

But it doesn't guarantee that the project is legit/scam, there are scammers that make sure that their project are well advertised by well known people and in the end, they will scam investors. The best that you can do is to know more about the project.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Lagduf on March 01, 2019, 06:24:18 AM
As long as Escrow agent has a good reputation and the Escrow agent holds the money, I think the participants don't have to worry because they still get paid even if the project will scam in the next weeks. Using an Escrow is a must if the project wants to make the participants believe if their project is good and it could be a guarantee too for the participants. So if you're going to participate in one project, try to search for the Escrow so the payment will not have any problem.
But their work is to just hold the token and distribute tokens to the bounty participants so which doesn't ensure the quality anyone can hire an escrow and created useless token to distribute so people investing on those projects are really wasting their money.
that's wrong dude.we need really trusted people to hold and distributing token.not everyone can maintain trust from other people.moreover if they hold huge amount.if they could do this till end periode we could call them trusted escrow.
Still it doesn't meant to be that project is worth to invest just because of they hired a trusted person on bitcointalk,you also note that the trust system can be abused so don't just trust the people with green score on their profile just click the trust and get to the reference as well.
The fact that the project will be useless if that was even using escrow. Remember there was a case in the past when an ico gets run with a lot of money after the escrow makes a mistake.
We must put a lot of attention to the ico and do a lot of research before we can trust it.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: maaldaz on March 01, 2019, 06:37:55 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
By using an escrow, that would be less possibilities that the project owner will run away without paying the bounty or abandon the project and take away all the money, but instead the escrow who has a hold on the fund will be able to distribute the coins/reward to the bounty participant.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: robelneo on March 01, 2019, 06:59:09 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

It's not the determining factor, but one of the signs that the site is doing it's best to make the project as legit as possible, it's still the people that's running the site that matters, if their reputation, is good then they will launch and complete their roadmap, but if they have a bad intention, then your money is gone.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: chichidori on March 01, 2019, 07:08:24 AM
It has higher chance that the project will not be scam only if you also know who the escrow is even if it has a good positive trust everyone should do there own research, trusted escrow on bitcointalk have diminish since The ICO exploded.
 


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: laurencef34 on March 01, 2019, 07:11:21 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
IMHO, escrow is a legal situation where the money is stored by a bank but temporarily doesn't belong to anyone. In a normal transaction, money goes to the seller and property goes to the buyer and its all over. Sometimes, especially with real estate, there needs to be a delay while all of the promised nature of the property is verified. During that delay, the buyer has to provide the money to prove they're serious about buying, but the seller shouldn't get the money until everything is checked out. The money, therefore, is set aside for a while and belongs to neither person. During that time, the bank holds on to it with promises to give it to the seller if everything checks out, or to give it back to the buyer if the property isn't what was promised. Therefore, a guarantee was made and protects both the buyer and the seller. Well, got to go now as I resume monitoring my live trading (https://to.crwd.cr/z7G) session. Best of luck!


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: BADBITCH on March 01, 2019, 07:15:32 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

Do you mean there is an escrow between the dev team and the bounty team ?
Escrow is good it ensures that bounty hunters get paid

But when the team and dev are not visible; it could mean that the bounty hunters could get paid worthless tokens after all

Bounty hunting is not about earning tokens, but about earning worthwhile tokens


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Tipsters on March 01, 2019, 08:32:28 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

Depends on the 3rd party escrow. If the person has green trusted on forum then you'll lucky its legit. If its scam that person, will go down immediately as scam and hoax can't be tolerate here in forum. The people who hides in anonymousity is quite scary to invest with but remember Satoshi who creates the number 1 crypto is still unknown.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: fasdorcas on March 02, 2019, 06:56:43 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
If they had a large margin enough to make people invest, why didn't they show up and disclose their information?
Why do they have to hide their information? all are just an excuse and they are trying to lure new investors. It is a scam and you should not invest in it.
Well it depends, what if it is a bounty program as a lot of people are not scared of participating in bounty programs now due to the alarming rate of scams getting involve.

It could be a proof or show that if the bounty hunter finishes, funds or tokens are already secured through escrow to be released, though I still wonder how escrow service can work for investment, because the work of the escrow is to hold the fund until it has been confirmed that services has been rendered, in this case, services can’t be rendered without the fund being released to execute the project so how does it work for investment ?


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: boris singer on March 02, 2019, 07:49:05 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

Depends on the 3rd party escrow. If the person has green trusted on forum then you'll lucky its legit. If its scam that person, will go down immediately as scam and hoax can't be tolerate here in forum. The people who hides in anonymousity is quite scary to invest with but remember Satoshi who creates the number 1 crypto is still unknown.
strange if escrow accepts offers from projects that structurally have data obscurity, especially those involving teams and developers. reputation will be at stake if escrow makes a blunder with details of the project that are not strong even though they act as guarantor. I am sure there are special considerations from those who accept the offer and can be considered right based on their perspective.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: BTCGOLD on March 02, 2019, 07:56:03 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

Unfortunately, escrow will never give full security. It happened in past that Bitcointalk users with very large number of trust points disappear with the money. You can always divide the risk and ask for escrow half one user and the other part the second one, and even do it with three or four escrows.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: valek.bruno on March 03, 2019, 03:31:28 PM
As I understand it, many projects can be really guaranteed, but today there are very few of them. Very few people who would be able to become guarantors in the transaction. Therefore, I now see a process that in general has life, but the whole thing is in the number of normal ideas on the market. They are terribly small.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: pidie on March 03, 2019, 03:52:53 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

In my opinion, escrow cannot be a guarantee, if a project does not have a team and dev but uses escrow, I think the project is a fraud. because if a project is good then there are teams and dev that are shown so that other people believe in a project to invest.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: bitgolden on March 04, 2019, 04:03:20 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
One of the most effective and reliable way to invest is to look for the ones that offers escrow service except the escrow management are scam themselves or another division of the same coin you wish to invest it but other than this.

I think it is very safe as escrow transactions are the most reliable way if you are to overcome crypto currency market volatility, escrow transaction will surely ensure that the trades or transaction of the user is executed in a secured and timely manner but I will still advice you make thorough findings about the project before investing.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: valuater on March 04, 2019, 04:10:27 PM
depending, for example, they are firing their tokens / coins, not necessarily that the coin will have value, it could end up being rubbish, but at least that illustrates that the transaction is safe if you look at it better to consider it again before joining the project


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Wayrey2020 on March 04, 2019, 04:21:27 PM
And how sure are you they are not the owners of the project calling their self escrow, no one is worth to be trust these days, just do your own research about the project and believe in it. The rest is lucky even most good project don't end up doing well but in time they might be great.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: daarul50 on March 04, 2019, 06:11:14 PM
Not all of us who use ESCROW can we trust because it is possible that the party providing the escrow service is also exposed to fraud from a project. The escrow service is essentially a business, when an agreement is reached regarding the payment of the services they provide, the escrow service will clearly accept the project even though they do not know that the project will eventually experience a scam because escrow parties only do business and they will provide services when the project benefits them.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: takngantuk on March 04, 2019, 06:15:38 PM
As long as Escrow has a good reputation, I think it can be a guarantee. Quality projects will definitely use Escrow to make investors more trustworthy. but now it's quite difficult to find projects like this. most projects currently do not use escrow.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Latviand on March 04, 2019, 06:49:47 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
In my own personal opinion, when a project has an escrow there is a huge chance that you will recieve your payment and you will mot get scammed by them. But sometimes there are projects that has an escrow that may lead scam because the manager will not distribute the payments.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: @baoli on March 04, 2019, 06:51:21 PM
Using escrow in any monetary transaction is always very dicey. Not that some escrow group hasn't been doing very well but it takes just one person to jeopardize the whole process. So always treat every transaction with caution because we never can tell.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: renault18turbo on March 04, 2019, 06:57:16 PM
I would use any human as escrow anymore. Blockchain is one of the best escrow solution currently. Smart contract is the shows good example of the power of blockchain in regarding of escrow.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: coin-investor on March 04, 2019, 10:34:25 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

What project is that you did not include the link to your post so we can also check and verify if it is a good one or not, there are so many parameters and the escrow is just one of it, but I will not on escrow as a sign that it is a legit project, and what is they are escrowing their token or investors fund and for how long.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: BUK2016 on March 04, 2019, 11:04:51 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
Escrow funds for campaign management is a way of protecting the interest of the participants from being scammed by the owners or the campaign manager but not necessarily the project is a legitimate one as you can still be scammed you invest your money because of the escrow service.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: sukoyomi on March 04, 2019, 11:14:21 PM
As long as Escrow has a good reputation, I think it can be a guarantee. Quality projects will definitely use Escrow to make investors more trustworthy. but now it's quite difficult to find projects like this. most projects currently do not use escrow.
Agree with it, if the Escrow is famous as his reputation then investor would feel safe while investing on the project. Indeed, it can be guarantee and make more interest. Nothing is as good as a project that uses escrow services.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: pocketfullofpoke on March 04, 2019, 11:23:37 PM
Escrow can be a good indication that an ICO has a good and pure intentions or basically not a scam ICO. I've been into a project that's using an escrow for now and it went good so far considering that the campaign manager is very trustworthy too.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: cahbagus555 on March 05, 2019, 12:12:22 AM
Escrow can be a good indication that an ICO has a good and pure intentions or basically not a scam ICO. I've been into a project that's using an escrow for now and it went good so far considering that the campaign manager is very trustworthy too.

Escrow adding our trust on the ICOs. Could be a guarantee, i think it could be yes and no. With escrow, there is good will from developers team and i think we could trust if escrow from reputable company or person


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Dreamchaser21 on March 05, 2019, 12:20:06 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
There still a chance for this project to be scam and maybe they are just trying to get the trust of the investors. if you're a bounty hunter then the payment for you is sure, and you don't have to worry about but if you plan to invest then having an escrow is still not a sign of this project will be good in the future, you must still review their whole project.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Danslip on March 05, 2019, 12:33:42 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
There still a chance for this project to be scam and maybe they are just trying to get the trust of the investors. if you're a bounty hunter then the payment for you is sure, and you don't have to worry about but if you plan to invest then having an escrow is still not a sign of this project will be good in the future, you must still review their whole project.
This is the point why mass fails to stick. If there is no working product then it is useless to expect something good from projects in my opinion. Investor confidence is down for these type of reasons and escrow is not going to cover the gaps by project managers.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: mapanlah on March 05, 2019, 01:44:41 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
all projects are potentially fraudulent. if there is no secure guarantee, we as investors always check and we can find more detailed information by reporting to the authorities. If everything is safe then we can enter.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: maman567 on March 05, 2019, 01:49:21 AM
Last two years almost of ICO investment project always use escrow for their ICO investment and many ICO was success with raised hard cap and have higher price after listing on exchange market, but now many ICO do not use escrow and many ICO was failed.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: hellyah070 on March 05, 2019, 02:02:04 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

Basically, yes. Projects in order to figure out if SCAM or not needs to be escrowed by one of the best escrow here on bitcointalk just like bl4nkcode which is very well known as a very trusted escrow.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: suzanne5223 on March 06, 2019, 02:22:18 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
In my own personal opinion, when a project has an escrow there is a huge chance that you will recieve your payment and you will mot get scammed by them. But sometimes there are projects that has an escrow that may lead scam because the manager will not distribute the payments.
There's indeed better chance that people involve in certain project wont get scam since a reputable escrow is involved but what you said about manager not distributing payment to participants for their if a project turn out to be scam is something I dont agree with cause the participant ought to receive their payment.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: blockman on March 06, 2019, 02:24:59 AM
Last two years almost of ICO investment project always use escrow for their ICO investment and many ICO was success with raised hard cap and have higher price after listing on exchange market, but now many ICO do not use escrow and many ICO was failed.
In conclusion, an ICO that has escrow seems to be very active and working. But if they've decided to not have an escrow, it means to say that they don't consider it anymore and it's just going to be an expense to them. I've managed to see those glory days where most of the ICOs has their funds escrow here in the forum through reputable escrow services. Today, they are thinking that they can manage it on their own but an escrow can help and give sort of protection for the bounty hunters and investors too.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Krassows on March 06, 2019, 02:52:39 AM
Can yes and no, but by using Escrow many ico are successful of course here the team also has an important contribution to the success of a project, of course there is a good connection between the two


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: shoreno on March 06, 2019, 02:57:47 AM

no . because an escrow can sometimes become a scammer   . i witnessed that before many times where a trusted member of the forum that has a reputation can still become a scammer because the money that he is holding is too big enough  but that was an inapropriate act because it can bring a bad karma to you  in the long run  .  there are also times that an escrow is honest and legit but he accidentlly lost the funds or he got hacked  .


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Yutikas_11920 on March 06, 2019, 03:47:45 AM
Last two years almost of ICO investment project always use escrow for their ICO investment and many ICO was success with raised hard cap and have higher price after listing on exchange market, but now many ICO do not use escrow and many ICO was failed.
In conclusion, an ICO that has escrow seems to be very active and working. But if they've decided to not have an escrow, it means to say that they don't consider it anymore and it's just going to be an expense to them. I've managed to see those glory days where most of the ICOs has their funds escrow here in the forum through reputable escrow services. Today, they are thinking that they can manage it on their own but an escrow can help and give sort of protection for the bounty hunters and investors too.
only a few ico projects are brave and able to provide escrow services for the allocation of bounty campaigns and several other campaigns, because some ICO platforms have different strategies for each platform.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: ifykiki on March 06, 2019, 03:50:47 AM
They need to show their team as a means of transparency and for identification, if that is not available, run


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: blockman on March 06, 2019, 04:31:37 AM
Last two years almost of ICO investment project always use escrow for their ICO investment and many ICO was success with raised hard cap and have higher price after listing on exchange market, but now many ICO do not use escrow and many ICO was failed.
In conclusion, an ICO that has escrow seems to be very active and working. But if they've decided to not have an escrow, it means to say that they don't consider it anymore and it's just going to be an expense to them. I've managed to see those glory days where most of the ICOs has their funds escrow here in the forum through reputable escrow services. Today, they are thinking that they can manage it on their own but an escrow can help and give sort of protection for the bounty hunters and investors too.
only a few ico projects are brave and able to provide escrow services for the allocation of bounty campaigns and several other campaigns, because some ICO platforms have different strategies for each platform.
It's not about being brave of acquiring an escrow but it's about on how they are very sure with the project they are working with. Meaning, they have future visions so they have no problem if hiring an escrow is what the investors, participants and development teams.

Oh well, today it isn't too important for them but I still see some project that are helding with escrow.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: libert19 on March 06, 2019, 05:09:38 AM
You should clarify your question. Were you doing a bounty? If so, you will be surely getting paid if that escrow was trusted.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: ottogary on March 06, 2019, 06:29:23 AM
Even if it's not giving a fully guaranty, but at least it could makes every investors or even bounty participant to be able to get even more protection about the coins that are purchased or gained.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: bangdol on March 06, 2019, 07:25:04 AM
You should clarify your question. Were you doing a bounty? If so, you will be surely getting paid if that escrow was trusted.
some bounty there that do not use escrow, but there is direct in the hands of developers. We all have to be careful with it, because there is a possibility the bounty will not get paid them.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Jack_Sin on March 06, 2019, 07:33:29 AM
Escrow with positive trust can be guaranteed, but if you don't know who the dev or team is on the project, it's better not to recommend investing it. The project team is one of the important things that need to be valued before investing


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: DZU1410 on March 06, 2019, 07:59:57 AM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
How can you trust a project if you haven't seen a team? How could that be possible? Even if you use Escrow with positive trust, I have great doubts that the project will not be a fraud. I do not participate in such projects.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: johnleo on March 06, 2019, 08:09:53 AM
Once I involved with tbar ico, they paid all bounty hunter, investor even listing their token in exchange but suddenly they disappear. From that experience, I think escrow is not a guarantee of total project but it can be a guarantee of early project like a reward for bounty hunter. In the end they can be a scammer too.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: meanwords on March 06, 2019, 08:17:22 AM
Any trusted escrow is a guaranteed payment but it doesn't guarantee the success of a project. Escrow doesn't want any shady business that will reduce its reputation in the forum. The more trusted an escrow is, the more the payment could be secured. At least that's just what I've thought.


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: OluwaTosin10 on March 19, 2019, 09:54:58 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?

For me using an escrow is not enough guarantee
Because the project team can decide to swap tokens and end up not paying

So we simple need a reliable project with a team of transparent and honest people


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: mrdeposit on March 19, 2019, 10:01:09 PM
You should clarify your question. Were you doing a bounty? If so, you will be surely getting paid if that escrow was trusted.
some bounty there that do not use escrow, but there is direct in the hands of developers. We all have to be careful with it, because there is a possibility the bounty will not get paid them.
Escrow can be guarantee depending on his/her identity. But do not just rely on that. I wonder do not you know the name of the project? Why do not you investigate its site?


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: Papcio77 on March 19, 2019, 10:02:47 PM
Having an escrow decreases our doubt for a project epecially the one who have trust. But make sure thats not ordinary account who got trust from someone, look if there are backgrounds in the other project, so if have we can high assure the escrow will pay us,  buy not sure if the token will be worth after token sale. Team is top prioty, we can be paid but we cant  gain anything. Its always better to pick a good project without escrow somehow


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: ioanbtc on March 19, 2019, 10:05:21 PM
This depends what will happen with project and if team keep do what they say will do and respect roadmap. And what will escrow do for project? Pay the coin/tokens to who join project and do bounty?


Title: Re: Can an Escrow be a guarantee?
Post by: faceoff97 on March 19, 2019, 10:25:56 PM
I saw a project and on that project I did not see the team and DEV from the project. however they use Escrow with good positive trust, can it be a determinant that the project will not be scam?
There were hired escrow or manager that makes sure that a project is legitimate and the team is actively working on a project. There were lot of previous project that come to pass and I can say that many are not scam but most of them takes longer time to realized it's good value. Btw, escrow is just someone who takes the third trusted party it doesn't determine wether a project is good or bad.