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Title: Russian Intranet Censorship
Post by: c_atlas on February 12, 2019, 11:43:05 PM
Russia is doing a little experiment (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/12/great-firewall-fears-as-russia-plans-to-cut-itself-off-from-internet).
What are your thoughts on this? What can Russian people do to circumvent this kind of censorship? As long as the wires aren't physically disconnected, people will still be able to access the broader internet through TOR or a VPN, but most people don't use TOR so this still has a massive effect on these people.

In the event that somehow the physical wires were disconnected, how would Russians be able to access the global internet? Mesh nets? Satellites?


Title: Re: Russian Intranet Censorship
Post by: Artemis3 on February 13, 2019, 12:22:05 AM
Russia is doing a little experiment (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/12/great-firewall-fears-as-russia-plans-to-cut-itself-off-from-internet).
What are your thoughts on this? What can Russian people do to circumvent this kind of censorship? As long as the wires aren't physically disconnected, people will still be able to access the broader internet through TOR or a VPN, but most people don't use TOR so this still has a massive effect on these people.

In the event that somehow the physical wires were disconnected, how would Russians be able to access the global internet? Mesh nets? Satellites?

If it is the same technology used by Maduro in Venezuela, you can still use Tor (https://www.torproject.org) if you stick to obfuscated bridges (obfs4) (https://bridges.torproject.org/bridges?transport=obfs4).

A full airgap is what they have in North Korea, they have a national LAN and they copy the things they approve from the internet in. Only in that case, your idea would be required. In the meantime, its probably the same thing used here, Iran and China, or a variant of. A giant firewall with deep packet inspection.

Obfuscation is important, and most VPN software doesn't do that and is easy to spot. In China people get visits if they use this...

I think both satellites and openmesh technology would help. I'm curious to see how the SpaceX internet by satellite project (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink_(satellite_constellation)) results. Google also is using balloons to achieve the same.


Title: Re: Russian Intranet Censorship
Post by: DayTrader27 on February 13, 2019, 05:42:57 AM
Russia is doing a little experiment (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/12/great-firewall-fears-as-russia-plans-to-cut-itself-off-from-internet).
What are your thoughts on this? What can Russian people do to circumvent this kind of censorship? As long as the wires aren't physically disconnected, people will still be able to access the broader internet through TOR or a VPN, but most people don't use TOR so this still has a massive effect on these people.

In the event that somehow the physical wires were disconnected, how would Russians be able to access the global internet? Mesh nets? Satellites?

You Americans are pathetic. Stop. Just stop. Russia is not at fault for your elections or whatever you're involved in. Blame Hillary!


Title: Re: Russian Intranet Censorship
Post by: c_atlas on February 13, 2019, 02:49:03 PM
I think both satellites and openmesh technology would help. I'm curious to see how the SpaceX internet by satellite project (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink_(satellite_constellation)) results. Google also is using balloons to achieve the same.
I heard about spacex's project, definitely sounds interesting to me.

You Americans are pathetic. Stop. Just stop. Russia is not at fault for your elections or whatever you're involved in. Blame Hillary!
Maybe try thinking before you speak. My issue is with the fact that Russia is cutting their people off from the internet, imagine what your life would be like if one day you were cut off from the rest of the world.


Title: Re: Russian Intranet Censorship
Post by: gembirdprivate on February 13, 2019, 08:08:31 PM
I think you can't turn off the Internet, can you?


Title: Re: Russian Intranet Censorship
Post by: billstar on February 13, 2019, 08:54:28 PM
I am russian and I think my government will fail to block the internet. They were trying to block telegram for a year, it is still working well.  ::)


Title: Re: Russian Intranet Censorship
Post by: V-D-S on February 14, 2019, 06:57:09 AM
I am russian and I think my government will fail to block the internet. They were trying to block telegram for a year, it is still working well.  ::)

What if they did Billstar?.. Suggestions like this should make you excessively curious and engaged.


Title: Re: Russian Intranet Censorship
Post by: RomanZil on February 14, 2019, 08:25:46 AM
One more bad idea from Russian Duma, I don't think it will work. Those who want to find the way to access global Internet, will find the way to get through these restrictions