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So im literally a curioused person which wanted to have more informations about Deep Web and its wierd and creepy videos and stuffs. So I recently streaming youtube for a couple of hours, so basic compared to what deep web has, but after about 10 videos,i found this gem.

https://youtu.be/rEtGb4Eenp0

So for those who have no time watching a 14:27 minute video, ill make a summary for you.

So theres this youtuber who wants to access deep web, just a curious guy like me. Then after a boring introduction, he finally opens the site. So to make the story short. He finds all illegal stuffs like hacking, buying other peoples account including paypal and even bank accounts perhaps, steps on how to do illegal things and a bunch of drug dealers all for suprisingly low price. Whats surprising is this.

MOST OF THE DEALS ARE CAN ONLY BOUGHT BY BITCOIN !!!!!!!!!

WTF. I really stumbled that even the dark webs and illegal organizations only accepts BTC because of its anonimity.

Heres an interesting topic for you guys. Lets discuss about this and maybe you have a lot information than mine.

Is not much of a surprise that cryptocurrency would be used for clandestine or illegal deals, its cheap, can be easily transferred from one state to another, and to an extent the individuals involved can keep their identity safe.

A lot of people are ignorant of the dark web, and how it affects them.
People should refrain from publicizing such information as bank details, personal identity cards and so on. This can all be put together and your identity stolen.

I've never checked out dark web, but I'll use some common sense / logic. There are more directions here:

1. I expect that some of those "deals" are fake, like everywhere in the world. So obviously a mean of payment that's not reversible is preferred by the sellers.

2. Since the things sold/bought there are usually (?) illegal, linking them to somebody's name, address, face.. are clearly avoided.
And then the next question arise: how comes they don't use anonymous coins and risk (just a little, I know) to use Bitcoin?

The major reason why many embrace Blockchain Technology is simply because of Bitcoin which is the mainstream manifestation of the Blockchain. Bitcoin as a decentralized platform ensure individual data or transaction kept secret or anonymous. Many are on the opinion that its been used for illicit activities on the web such as you rightly said but i debug their opinion to be wrong because as a decentralized platform like Bitcoin FREEDOM is certain.

All illegal activities and criminals first started using technological advances because they give to them the competitive advantage of doing their operations without anyone knowing or tracing them.
When I first read that Bitcoin is the main payment method of people on the dark web, made me sure that this invention is going to be a hot topic in the world in subsequent years.

Once I visited Deep Web using Tor but I am confused and I ask myself, what is the next thing I want to do. I only curious with the name of "Deep Web" and search the links to browse with Tor. Then I visit some marketplace, and I see that there are many things offers in that market. You can find anything you want including illegal things. But then I decide to quit and close the connection because I am too afraid to continue because I don't have any reference about Deep Web.

Its not shocking because bitcoin is a good way to hide their identity and use it on illegal things like selling drugs etc.. we cant deny the fact that bitcoin is used in illegal things but no one can stop an individual to do it if they want even bitcoin doesnt exist.

I am not sure of the deepweb because few only venture on it and I have no idea what is happening on that side of the web, anyway if cryptocurrency is used on those illegal transactions I am sure that even fiat currency is used to make transaction on the deep web. Let us not point out only on cryptocurrency on the use of transactions on the deepweb because people are the ones that abuse this technology for their own selfish attitude.

Well, this is nothing new... It's been known in the community for years, and i guess it's even common knowledge for "mainstream" people after the silk road founder was caught and jailed years ago. All newspapers in my country reported how much bitcoins were seized from him, so every man in the street that has any interest in the dark web or crypto currencys at all has known the use of crypto on darknet markets for years... I don't know why it comes as a suprise to some people in 2019.

That being said: a lot of the adds on those darknet marketplaces are real... Some are fake, some are honeypots, but a lot of them are "genuine".

Also, bitcoin is pseudo-anonymous... If you don't know what you're doing, and you're using it to buy stuff on a darknet market, there is a decent chance you'll end up on a suspect list of  a 3 letter agency sooner or later. Some marketplaces have switched to monero because of these anonimity-issues.

Disclaimer: i'm not a darknet user anymore. I've run some hidden services for LEGAL websites for a couple of years (but they're all down now), and i've visited several darknet markets in the past to see what the fuss was all about, but i've never purchased or sold anything illegal, not on the darknet, not on the clearnet, not IRL.

Since this is an internetwide community, has anyone here access deepweb like him and purchased anything using bitcoin? I m really curioused about this one. Accessing deepweb also requires some special software. You should also have high security in order to not get hacked so bitcoin is only the possible way to transfer payments.

It's a little bit funny that you mention it as if it's the biggest news you've ever heard.
Darknet markets were one of the first use-cases were Bitcoin was used for e-commerce on a massive scale.

They've been around for a long time and there's no denying that these markets have had a pretty big influence on Bitcoin's price.
Maybe less now, but historically I think it's very likely that it created some of the initial demand for Bitcoin.


Anyone can access the 'deep web' through the TOR browser, just make sure you disable Javascript before you do anything.
There are markets that also use other coins than just Bitcoin. I think Wall Street Market supports Monero for example.

Here's more information about anything Darknet Market related:
https://www.deepdotweb.com

I don't condone doing anything illegal, but it's ultimately your own responsibility.

Not surprised knowing that the merchants found in deep web are mostly drug peddlers and nefarious people wanting to make a quick buck. Also, since the rise of bitcoin back in 2012, drug dealers are already making the most out of the pseudo-anonymous and secure nature of bitcoin, which ultimately led to Ross Ulbricht's arrest and the shut down of the Silk Road. Bitcoin is considered as money, so there's really not a shock value if the deep web is making use of this currency for their illegal transactions.

I remember when there was a video leaked of a small girl dropped with melted candles sticks and the watchers paid bitcoin to see the vid. That was my first impression to bitcoin being used as a dirty money. But later I got a better understanding why its being use in the deep web since it makes you anonymous.

Well, heres an interesting question, do deepwebs or darkweb or whatever you call it, is still legitimately operating like these big syndicates do?? Or these videos are recorded and just being posted on this website. I mean these websites could be easily accessed by mediocre computer geeks today. Could blackmarket possibly been transfered to another website where it is totally hidden from curious people.

please go ahead and loose some bucks on Deep Web! the main market, silk route is already down, lol.

Anything in this world has two good and bad sides, bitcoin is no exception. However, bitcoin is just a new way of trading, you can't blame it for being evil or illegal ... it depends on the purpose of the user. I am not very knowledgeable about Deep web, but the reason why illegal activities usually only trade in bitcoin is because of its anonymity. But if you talk about which currency is used for the most illegal trading, I believe it is USD. What do you think deep web compared to the rest of this world will be, when the whole world is using USD, so USD is the currency to use for the most illegal

We are in 2019 now and you started this topic now buddy, people used to deal with bitcoin four years bank in dark webs but when people were getting caught left and right they understood you cannot deal illegal things with bitcoin as it is not an anonymous coin when the transactions are public and anyone with skills can follow each and every track. I challenge you, can you pin point one dark web site that accepts bitcoin, i am sure no one is accepting bitcoin for years.

There are some scams, obviously, but there are also legit sellers with a good record of selling stuff without any problems. It's a matter of finding the right seller. The use of bitcoin isn't because of the irreversible nature of the network, it's mainly because it offers the privacy and anonimity that darknet markets users want.

Actually,  I've read that over the last few years there's been a surge in demand of privacy coins like Monero and Zcash, but still, Bitcoin is the main currency in darknet markets. About the risk, if you know what you're doing regarding your opsec, you shouldn't have any problems.

The first time that I always remember when I know about bitcoin is anonymity, which mean I can do anything with bitcoin without known by everyone in this case for my government who has authority to take care of illegal things in their country. This things being one of the reason each government decided to ban bitcoin in their country. They have perspective when bitcoin can be use as legal tool for payment system in their country there will be many illegal cases that they cannot track easily (especially a case appertain to money). Accordingly it's not weird when deep web to be used for some people who want to buy something illegal and they use bitcoin as a tool for transaction.

Everything has its own advantages and disadvantages. Like Gun has both good and bad uses, we can't quit using Guns since they have a negative impact also. Likewise, the use of BTC on the dark web is a negative aspect of BTC, don't forget its has many good uses also

The dark web is known for illegal activities and full with men and women who never want they identity known due to the criminal activities and at that they will always look out for a currency that will not reveals the identity of those behind the transaction and bitcoin since decentralised is the first choice of they mode of carrying out this transactions cause all the other coin are a little bit centralized and trackable.

This is the negative side of cryptocurrency. Unfortunately, its anonymity leads to the fact that it is used for illegal purposes. But there's nothing we can do about it.

That's an old news.

Bitcoin has been accepted there for years and is still on going. I don't find it odd because these transactions are illegal and don't want to expose their info so the best payment option for them is through crypto and bitcoin was their main crypto there.

Negative side that created a positive thing and that is through the adoption of the mainstream. Everyone who's been into bitcoin before already knew it that transactions on deep and dark web are all paid through bitcoin or any accepted altcoin.

It has been very well known that most bitcoin payment transactions is running on the dark web.
The bitcoin usage as a payment in the surface world is still far from dark world. And bitcoin is not fully anonymous actually.
Except you use some mixer to become anonymous using your bitcoin.

BTC & Deep Web will always coincide and one can not survive without the other.
I have only visited the Deep Web one time and it was to purchase a licensing software not available in my country for a reasonable price.
I was a little scared that my transaction was not completely anonymous and for that reason I have chosen to avoid the Deep Web going forward. 

Bitcoin has been used years and years before with the criminals behind the internet and one of the famous event on that time was The Silk Road, it was a black market which you can actually buy guns and drugs etc., using only Bitcoin as payment. If you want to search the silk road you better read or watch it from youtube.

I don’t see why average people use the deep web, if it’s for drugs then why? It’s not hard to score drugs in your local area.

The problem is that they were too afraid to buy in their local store since they really don't have a trusted seller yet that's why they have to go find it online. Other than that is the availability of most drugs i guess, i think there is a drug where you can't buy in your local area. And i guess this is where the smuggled drugs begin in most seaports in every country.

Bitcoin has been used in darkweb in a long time and after I read some feedback and article I found out that according to the dark web users it's very safe to used bitcoin for payment, and bitcoin is not the only crypto that being used, but the most popular payment option is bitcoin, some even pay bitcoin to watch certain show, dark web really give bitcoin a good transaction volume, so dark web give a good advantage for bitcoin

Perhaps it will affect the price of bitcoin as the demand will increase if they keep on using it as a payment in every transaction. The darkweb is one of the reasons why there are countries that ban bitcoin. The governments are afraid that bitcoin may use in illegal activities. Anyway, just a piece of advice, before diving in darkweb, make sure you are using a tool that can hide your IP address or else, you'll be in jail.

I am surprised that they are trading in bitcoin, most of them are done using monero and for faster payments litecoin is accepted too. They must be patient buyers waiting ages for transaction confirmations

The use of Bitcoin on Dark Web has bought it bad reputation that is used for illegal activities. But we mustn't forget that fiat money could also be used for illegal stuff and the reason why Bitcoin was chosen for deep web as a payment method was anonimity. But with time Bitcoin has lost a part of anonimity and then Monero came to the deep web scene.
I don't think that depp web could give any advantage to Bitcoin or affect the price in positive sense, so far it has made to it more harm than good things.

I call bullshit on this. Please post the URL to these sites as proof that you actually visited those sites.  ::) You do not just fire up a Tor browser and links pop up with illegal content, you have to search for that content and if you really looked deeper, then you would have noticed that most sites with illegal content accept the privacy focused coins like Monero and Dash.  ::)

Bitcoin can be your worst enemy, if you use it incorrectly and even if you use Tor, you are still not 100% sure that Tor exit nodes are not compromised by law enforcement agencies.  ::)

Well, of course, as you said Bitcoin is fully anonymous and that's why most of the illegal market uses it or some other cryptocurrencies. Besides anonymity, Bitcoin is also a faster way for transfering money so it fully suits criminals to use it. Of course, Bitcoin is not to blame for it being used in that way and it isn't designed for that but it got accepted on deep web and it is used there like it we or not.

Bitcoin is currently not legal in some countries but it is normal for them to buy and trade even if they are Deep webs. They can do what they want if they want to do illegal things they do And this is not good for bitcoin.

Nothing surprising, this is common with the darkweb. Bitcoin being anonymous it has paved path for the increased usage of bitcoin into darkweb. Earlier bitcoin was termed as the source for darkweb, later this changed little by little when bitcoin got its spreading worldwide same as that of the traditional fiat. Deep web isn't that easy to access, it needs specific platforms through which we can access deep web. On the other hand bitcoin being transparent makes it get used on darkweb while the end users unknown giving security.

Nothing much to be surprised about it. The idea that they can hide their identity by being anonymous. And since the transaction happens between individuals and no intermediaries needed, it most likely to happen. It's a win-win situation for them. Since bitcoin was made that way, they're abusing it for illegal transactions and for their own benefits.

Why should all the guilty of illegal things created by humanity be Bitcoin? Why do you blame Bitcoin when there are plenty of criminals? Without Bitcoin, was there no other way to pay? Why is this system which may be necessary for mankind, only to be accused of unnecessary accusations?  ???

Knife exist for a cutting something and intention is important for using it.If someone has intention to finance criminal activity,terrorism then it doesn't matter which payment options are considered by their supporters. Way back to 2016 Russian government announced news about restrictions for cryptocurrencies and they blamed anonymity of bitcoin which is best for secret payments for illegal activities.

So you mean dark-web didn't exist before bitcoin? It did and people always have a way out to be anonymous and untraceable. Bitcoin just made it easier. It's true you can buy shit loads of illegal stuff with bitcoin but you still would if there was no bitcoin.

What gun are you talking about ? It is a crypto coin ? Or the gun that has a bullet ?  Whatever gun it is , you  can still quit using it if you feel that its not good for you  .

  same as btc , if you dont like btc then dont but if you think that btc is beneficial for you then why stop ?  

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Not all services in the darkweb are bad but some are useful too .  darkweb only got a bad reputation due to its creepy aspects  .

Bitcoin exists and does not, dark web will still exist. By using bitcoin it is true that transactions will be more anonymous, but we cannot just assume that bitcoin is something negative. So, if the bitcoin doesn't exist, will the dark web disappear? no, they can still transact on the dark web which of course will use and involve fiat in the transaction.

For some people to hear deep web is something terrible where there are sites that are dangerous for ordinary people to watch. Bitcoin is very popular among dark web users, they use bitcoin for various transactions such as buying and selling weapons, drugs and even services as contract killers. In my opinion, it's only a small part of them using it for crime, I'm sure there are more benefits to bitcoin in a positive direction.

What world are you in mate ? Bitcoin started with this and in fact the dark web was the place from where bitcoin took the rise.
The price has grown high due to the criminal activities and drug dealing happening at that place and they accept only bitcoin because of it's anonymity.
But the time has changed now and the speculators have more dominance over the bitcoin community.

many people said that bitcoin is illegal because it used on the deepweb, its true that bitcoin is used on deepweb, its because the transparency and anonymous because of 2 things of that the bitcoin used for illegal purpose, but we should know that bitcoin is not illegal at all, it depend by the user that use the bitcoin.

It is not surprising at all. From what only I heard about deep web, it really uses bitcoin as a payments in illegal activities. But some can be traced with their IP thus requiring anyone to download some VPN to mask the Ip address.

At least you've shared the video. I'm gonna open it when I have a free time to have an idea what deep web really looks like.

yeah indeed the deep web accepts bitcoin as a payment tool because bitcoin is a cryptocurrency that can provide security against personal data and other personal matters. so if you use bitcoin as a payment tool, your identity will be hard to trace.

No, it doesn't depend on the user, it depends on the country he is using it.

If that person is using Bitcoin in a country that did not want to legalize, in other words, banned Bitcoin in their country, that is illegal. He might do some things to cover up his IP that might track him and might end up being a proof for him to go to jail. Also, the anonymity of Bitcoin is not that really anonymous, if you know what I mean. There is a lot of ways to track down their IP address the reason there are a lot of times that people are caught buying illegal things on the deep web using Bitcoin.

It is true. Most transactions in the dark web are made using Bitcoin before the year 2017. It is not famous enough to be noticed by the public hence making it a good way for illegal transactions to be made. But now, I think they've migrated to Monero now since it is more anonymous.

Tor Network and Bitcoin were created in the spirit of cypherpunk movements, so it might have a correlation between those two application/software since the early adopters are the people within the movements circle. That software really benefits for the people who want to seeks privacy and freedoms, and surely TOR and Bitcoin perfectly suits. So, Its no wonder why the communities highly correlated because the user is really in the same favor.

Indeed. Bitcoin is not completely anonymous. I've heard many times that those services or deals ends up into a scam. Feds have already busted the silk road so do your own diligence or you might end up in prison because of your curiosity. I think dark web just turned into a fascination for idiots and not a site for illegal things anymore.

Dark / deep web's main currency is bitcoin, no wonder they only accept bitcoin as the payment currency.
in deep world, they need to protect their privacy, therefore they use cryptocurrency.
Monero is one of the private cryptocurrency because you cannot track the balance freely like bitcoin or ethereum.

with the regulations today, you might not be able to find anonymity in using btc the fact that it isn't an anon coin. i'm not from the deep web but whoever wants to easy cash but without documents, you'd resort to BTC. you don't need to ever go to the deep web to buy those paypal accounts and so on. you can even find it here. It can eventually be traced to you if carefully examined by blockchain detectives.

That is one of the rumors that keep spreading in our community, there are people who are afraid to use bitcoins because they think that it can be only use in illegal activities because of its anonymity.

What is the benefit of people to doing illegal use of Monero?

No . its not anonymity on why people refrain to use bitcoin but its about the appearance   .  i have talk to some people online and i introduce bitcoin to them  . they said that they mistaken bitcoin as a scam  because it is only a virtual currency and the name bitcoin is not really well known  aside from this forum .


They cant be traced by the authorities because monero is fully anonymous when compare to bitcoin  but bitcoin can also be fully anonymous if you wil mix it using a mixing service such as bitblender .

Would you buy something illegal with your credit card? Of course not. People use BTC or ZEC to keep anonymity.

Nothing new about this and the use of bitcoin for illegal transactions that's why governments and some people would use that fact against bitcoin. With bitcoin, it's easier to transact with people without giving any personal information. Much safer for them.

Since bitcoin is a kind of money that being used online, that are also called cryptocurrency. This cryptos are being used to buy clothes, purchase any products online, pay bills etc. Bitcoin can also be used to buy some products of dark web, hence, dark markets aren't necessarily illegal. They are simply digital marketplaces, created using the same kinds of technologies that typically underpinbitcoin. At the very least, they will accept bitcoin as a method of payment because of its quasi-anonymous characteristics.

I have read time and time again that Bitcoin isn't as anonymous we thought it to be, because of that most of that most of the deep or dark web users have started accepting monero if their main issue was anonymity. But to those that accept Bitcoins am sure it has to do with the fact that they know it will rise in value so that they can have some profits.

Bitcoin is pseudo anonymous, which means partially anonymous but not really. Governments can find out who owns your Bitcoins in your wallet. However, in the early days it was attractive to illegal dealings because the government's were not savvy to the new technology.

These illegal transactions was done even before, even for the brutal videos can be bought at deep web using bitcoin. the main source of payment thru there was bitcoin. Its the digital money which is popular only to deep web before. its no surprise.

There is nothing surprising. But it doesn't mean that bitcoin is evil. Everything depends on a person who use it. Bitcoin is just another means of payment for thieves, ransomware or even terrorists. Theft, robbery, extortion, blackmail have always been and will be. Independently of bitcoin.

I hate to say this, but you are wrong. Deep web is the place where all of the things are true, the Government's secrets are even there, lots of confidential and unimaginable things you can't picture out in your mind. Deep web is just a mask, the most interesting things are inside. All of the deals and transactions there are legit, because the word "respect" are valued there, unlike here in the internet (you know what I mean).

They respect each other because not all of the people have guts on diving down in the deep part of the web yet there are some, and that's what I like about in deep web, their system and the people.

Its a big no. Why would you use CC to do illegal things.
People use digital money to do it. Deep web was full of illegal things, including piracy movies, they sold movies for cheaper price. They cracked games with high value. Thats why using btc is the best way to become anonymous, having transactions to anyone without knowing your true identity will make the life of their business long.