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Low/High Red/Black or maybe Single Number? Is there best way to bet in Roulette? I've calculate average win from 1000$ bet to show you guys that there is no difference.
 
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Average win from 1000$ bet is equal to 947,37$ on American Roulette (0 and 00) and 972,97 on European Roulette (only one 0). It means that no matter what would you bet on you will win the same amount of money on average(risk multiplayed by payout). Changing type of bet is used only to increase/decrise risk and can be also achieved by increasing/decrising the size of bet (amount of $$).

The only thing important in Roulette is to alwais choose European one because cost of 1 bet (casino earnings) is equal to 2,7% of the size of your bet (5,3% on American Roulette).  

Well, Good to know that whatever method you choose to bet on, the house edge doesnt really change, so it all boils down to your betting strategy. I personally like to bet on Black or Red on European Roulette. Sometimes martingale when I have a huge bankroll but mostly just whatever color feels right for the moment. I dont think strategy helps much in roulette unless you have unlimited bankroll.

From my personal experience I can tell that the best thing to do is to stick to slot machine and stuff like that. Roulette is devil's playground, after roulette hooks you in, slot machines are like watching chess to see some action.

There is no best way to play roulette, best way is not to play it and that is how you win.

yeah I still find many people fail to understand that no matter what outcome they bet they will still lose the same amount mathematically
so betting anything is the same no matter if you are aiming for high payout or low ones , the more you bet the more you lose

so finding a system of betting doesn't affect the chance , it just gives you a road plan for losing or reaching the profit target

I may sound rude coming into the gambling section and advocating against gambling, but I really don't care and I'm going to do it anyway.

There's no strategy to win in gambling, the house has an edge and in the long run, they're going to beat you. There's no software or tip that's going to help you win. You're going to lose in the end, and that's the end of it.

Don't gamble, and if you DO GAMBLE. Then go ahead and set aside a certain amount of money that you're prepared to lose because you will.

Come on man, you must be kidding. Slot is a game with the highest house edge as far as I know. At least you can use various strategy in roulette while you cant do it on slot machine. Will you do martingale on slot machine? It must be crazy thing to do as the outcome on slots game is unpredictable.

What I'm referring to is not strategy. I'm referring to how it affects you psychologically. I've been through it and saw a lot of people afterwards. After I managed to stop gambling and playing roulette I worked in casinos for 5+ years and saw a lot of people first hand.

Those who play slot machines are not that hooked as those who try roulette. Most of them that tried roulette after slot machines became more frequent visitors and 90% of them lost much more money then they were when they were drinking their drink, smoking cigarette and chilled watching the slot machine do its work.

Of course not everyone is the same and there are people that can resist all that jazz, but there is only a few of those around...

I've always seen roulette as a game of luck, same as slots machines are. That's because I've never seen someone who is on profit on the long term neither on roulette or slot machines even though there are a few articles about people winning incredible amounts of money on both of this. The house will always win at the end because that's how they are created and you cannot beat them. Still, I don't understand why people spend millions of dollars everyday on roulette or slot machines.

On our place there is a mini casino here. I see that most people prefer to play slot machines  . idk why they are so addicted with compare to other types of games that are lying around  . whats cool is that they are all adults  . maybe they see slot machines as a profitable activity ?

But i think slot machines dont really differ from other types of gambling games  . all of them are still gambling and will depend purely on luck  .

That's how it should be taken, in any luck based gambling there's no real assurance whatever strategy you have as long as you are playing much longer
your chances to win is getting smaller, there's no particular assurance that you will benefits from what system you use it's only build some good confidence
inside you to keep aiming to win.

Everyone can use this OP's post as a good basis, Play for fun then quit as earlier as you can with or without profits.

I only bet on colors either red or black to keep it simple.
Then when i see GREEN pop up is when I walk fro mthe table.
It dont like the odds from playing the wheel so when i play it is for entertainment purposes only.

This is indeed the reality of gambling specially with these kind of games.The longer we do engage the higher chance on losing our entire money in the end of the day.
We can use up some strategy but would be just good to entertain yourself and testing out the probability but the important thing you should consider is that not making yourself
believing too much on a positive result.

The above image actually help us to understand that whatever the game be house edge is going to be their as they are running the business and not doing any charity to give people free money. So those who fall in this trap end up losing their money.

My point was not to show that gambling /roulette is child of devil. There are tones of people that simply enjoy gambling treating it as fun thing to do. Its only important to know the math. That probability is against you and all you relay on is pure luck.

A bet on red is black, a bet on two dozen out of three, there are some more similar bets, and all this with different variants of the martingale system, with an unlimited bankroll. ;D

LOL, you start out correct by saying that slots has one of the worst house edges of all games.
Then you ruin your entire statement, by implying that roulette is better because you can use strategies.

As if you're going to increase your chances of winning by using these strategies...
Martingale will also bust you faster than you think.

Are you kidding? Slot machine?

Anyways, the OP is right, actually I just game from a 2 hour roulette game, didn't win, just break even so I quit, actually I already lost everything, got lucky betting on a single number (17) and then boom I'm back and when I was able to get another win and gets break-even I quit already.

Did not play slot machine, worst odds ever. Lol.

Its good to play on games that you can actually count propability. Roullette is good because betting (f.e. red) you know that you can double your money with 48,6% chance. That way you can choose game with lowest casino edge and try luck there. If you are not able to count propability it can be 5% chance to double. You dont know that.

Online Roullette propability might also be faked. (cheat in random engine). Thats why its  important to choose trustworth casino.

One of the few who may give a proper answer to thread title question is Ashley Revell : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGCdBsOIKYA

But if you don't have time to watch the video I give you a straight answer : bet all on red!!

Jokes aside : as original poster said whatever strategy you use you will always pay the house egde in the long run and in roulette is quite high , something like 2.7% or so ( to lazy to d the math right now ) and in crypto world there are better opportunity to gamble with ( I mean lower house edge ).

Dice standard is 1% but there are games with a variable HE between 0-1%.

So as someone esle already pointed out in this thread : play roulette if you enjoy it, set an amount you are ready to lose and in case of luck just quit and take the profit.

You do not understand what gamblers are gambling for if you think there is no difference between those bets. If you gamble with the minds of a math teacher then you are not going to get the most important thing out of gambling at all, fun. Gambling suppose to be fun, gambling suppose to be something that you enjoy doing and not something you loath.

If you only go for the math and calculate the odds of winning a game then the wisest decision would be not gambling at all because since there is a house edge there is no way you will win. However, a gambler looks at the roulette table and sometimes go for the red and black or even their favorite number because they believe that is how they will enjoy it, put it on your birthday, put it on your wedding anniversary, if it comes the enjoyment you will get is much better than just putting it on red at a crypto place.

As I was saying, I did not say anything about odds, I was referring to addiction element that is simply not the same when it comes to playing slots and roulette. Roulette has a much tighter grip, like a boa constrictor :D

Betting on red or black gives you a 50% chance to win and double your money. So mathematically speaking that is what you should bet on.

Mathematically speaking its 47.4 on American Roulette and 48.6 on European Roulette. Because there is 0 and 00. In fact without 0 and 00 casino won't have any advantages agains gamblers.

For some people yes but for the majority of people no  . we only treat gambling for profit and that is the main reason why we play  .

Gambling has an house edge but that doesnt mean that you cannot win on them  . why do you think we continue playing if we will only loose all the time ?  

By the way , i also love to play roulettes and other casino based games   .  i always feel lucky playing them than compare to dice games .

Casinos try to trick people by showing the past results of red and black.  When people see that black was hit the last ten times they believe red is due.  It does not work like this, they always have the same chance and the past results do not matter at all.  Discounting the green slots it will always be a 50/50 chance.

Interesting results! Could you please share with us where you got this data from- if you collected this data, where this data was collected if you know, etc? Always good to make sure that a source of information is reputable. I typically don't play roulette much as I find it pretty dull, but I never knew how the odds for this game really were. I've seen basic odds calculated for games like roulette but nothing as detailed as this to date.

It's a great job you've done! In the platform that I am playing, my bets on roulette I do alternately and believe me more I win with the color, I have noticed that the probabilities of gain increase a lot, have you tried it?

This is a easy question actually. I don't suggest you play roulette at all but if you do the vet with more possibilities compared to other bets is Red or Black. Martingale works here if you have an infinite bankroll and an offline casino do not place bet limitation, but they all do now so Martingale does not work anymore.

I've calculated it by myself in excel. Its simply math.

f.e. If you bet on red there are 18 winning slots out of 37 (36 and 0). 18/37 gives propability of win 48,6% to double money. It means that Betting 1000$ infinity times with statistic distribution you will have 1000$*48,6%*2 ~973$.

You don't have to find it if you can count it.

Well for me, whatever you choose to bet it is always your faith and fortune that will give you the luck to win the roulettes. Some people advise sticking with slot machines because you can actually win easily from there and they only take little profits from the gamers to offer a win for one gamer. Roulette will definitely give you the highest level of urge to play more and that is what I consider greed game. It will hurt you so much when you lose everything from that game and I can tell that.

I don’t have a complicated strategy, I just bet on a set few numbers that I like. It’s probably about as likely to win as anything else. You can’t cheat roulette, there’s a reason you never see a poor casino.

In fact Martingale does not work at all. This strategy provides lower propability of winning than puting all money on red.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112216.msg49832531#msg49832531
Here i code and run few simulations

When it comes to roulette i dont know any strategy that will work for it but i do play just like you  . i only bet on my favorite number or on my favorite color and it does the magic . yeah we cannot cheat the roulette and roulette cant also cheat us because its purely random . however some user claims that live roulettes that they saw on amusement parks or carnivals are cheaters because the machines that they use are faulty.

but we still have a green zero, which means that the probability of winning will always be a bit lower than 50/50 that you are talking about...
In other words, the bank is in a better position than the player as usual ...



roulette can't cheat us but the rules can... (additional one or two fields 0 and 00 make the difference)...

Rules can't cheat you either, rules are there and are the same for everyone playing, your brain can cheat you though if he does not calculate properly and does not interpret rules properly  8)

It's not a cheat that's how american roulette pays out on all casinos. The gambler should know the rules of the game before placing bets. A casino can change the rules of the game but it rarely happens and the changes that i've seen are only minor (adjusting the payouts, max bet, etc)

On moneypot there was an old roulette game that had a very low house edge 0.27% basically when you lose and the outcome is green they will return a small portion of your bet.

Yes I realised that a bit later, I totally forgot about the 0 and 00 fields in Roulette. Another member also noticed that and corrected me a few posts before.   

In fact roulette can cheat us too. Number "rolled" in online casino is just number from random number generator algorithm. And you have no proof that its not faked by one IF statement ( (IF bet > average player bet) AND (player bet on red) THAN roll black) ELSE generate random number. That way each time you will have be or not to be situation you will loose. It can also be improved by >50% of portfolio, or by simple algorithm that checks if player is using martingale strategy and if it returns true than roll killing combo.

Even offline real world casino can cheat us on roulette by cheating in roulette mechanizm (magnet etc).

Thats why choosing good, trusted casino is so important. Especialy with online casino where cheating is as easy as 1 extra line of code.

For me, roulette was a difficult game. How if you try with dice game? ;D

You can have a chance to win for the money, and it depends on how much your bets. I don't think that there is the best way to bet in roulette because it's a game of chance and I think we depend on the luck only.

So if you already calculate the average of winning and you found that there is no difference, I think you get the answer that in roulette, you cannot find the best way to bet.

First of, I'm pretty sure there are provably fair online roulettes. Check out this video, for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf6ZxDXvU7o

Regarding the OP, good job! Keeping in mind those probabilities will never hurt. However, we should understand that we would come to the numbers in the column "Average win" only if tens of millions of bets were made. Within 100-200 bets anything can happen.

For sure there are. Thats why i posted that it is important to choose them instead of those that you are not able to proof if they are fair. Some of them has intitutions certificates, some of them are open source. Some of them uses this hash method. Which i'm not 100% sure that can't be faked.

Casino don't need to cheat to profit. But we need to know that they can and we have to make sure to avoid them.

I will be less emphatic and say "I hope" that there are many honest online roulette ...
Unfortunately, it is very difficult to check


You misunderstood me ... I said that the rules cheat us because the house always has a better chance of winning and this is written in the official rules ...
When you play a game with another player, the rules of the game usually make your chances of winning equal, in the case of a casino the situation is different...

I knew that betting on red/black, low/high, and odd/even is the same thing. I usually chose red/black for whatever reason. I can't explain it. What I didn't know was that betting on numbers gives you the same chance of winning. I thought that it's much harder to win but with a bigger profit so if you can bet only one or two times you will do much better choosing a color than numbers.

Its much harder to win but payout is proportional to risk what gives us no difference between betting on colour against on single number in infinity rolls. I only wanted to check it to know if there is exact the same statistic payout. Because if there wouldn't (f.e. 972 on black/red and 973,5 on 8 numbers combination that it would be proof that the best strategy is to calculate everything and bet on highest statistic payout).


Agreed. Dozen of times I heard that in roulette you have 50:50 to win. Gambllers very often forget about 0 and how important it is to your wallet after x rolls. Some of them choose americal roullet (with 0 and 00) only because someone said then that its "lucky table" or interface is better (in online casino).

And no one can beat the house edge lol 😂

I only play roulette now thru Facebook because i never win in online casino for the reason i dont know.while in Facebook i am a millionaire but I cannot spend the money because it has no value at all 😜

But maybe i will try again by checking this threads advices

That is wrong, the true odds in 37 is to 1 (1-36 numbers + 0) and then 38 to 1 (1-36 numbers,  0 and then 00). So the odds is really against you here so it's based on just pure luck and nothing else. Your strategy is to just place a bet on a certain number and get's lucky.

My whole topic is about that... In quoted post i'm writing about gamblers being wrong saying that in roulette you have 50:50 probability of winning because they are forgetting about 0 and 00. Have you even read topic and my post or only first sentence in my post.

More the zero higher the chances of you losing bevuse that 50 gets reduced accordingly as stated . Also this is normal beacuse casinos does exists still beacuse they are making money and they are not heir to do charity by giving the money to others.

I don't know will it work or not. I have won a little today with 36x payout. I didn't use any techniques. Randomly put my money on a single or two, sometimes even number and won most of the times.

Good for you, but i have to say that your strategy will work just as any other strategy. Only with lots of luck.

Been playing roulette for several years now, not my favorite though, until a friend hook me up and that's where the fun begin. I never look at the odds, but thankfully the OP has put a good thread for everyone to see. I'm experienced lots of good hits and winning with roulette that I don't have a single strategy. Actually I only have one though, bet on red and black. I remember one of those days wherein I got a lucky streak of reds like 10 or more straight. Playing 1:1 with a dealer, LOL, he really looks bored because I'm the only one playing on that table and I'm winning, perhaps I got lucky that night.

I am sure that is luck, and you are lucky guys in the gambling. But you cannot expect the luck will come to you in the next game because maybe the luck will go after you win and I don't think that play for once again will be a good idea. If I won like you, I would definitely quit gambling quickly because I don't want to see me get a loss after that.

I would not call what he did a strategy at all.That was pure luck, betting on random stuff and wining happens, but also losing happens.This way of betting quickly turns from being a strategy to being a tragedy :D

Well. "I don't know will it work or not." Souds like this guy is showing us his strategy that was not yet tested but might work...

Table from first post shows that there is no differents what you bet on. Red/Black, 0, single number, first dozen ...

hope that is not off topic...

I need a recommendation for a live roulette with extra low bets, like 1 sat minimum per bet
a live multiplayer roulette

tnx.

for myself, i'm using red/black and low/high for the roulette bets.. because it's 50% win percentage
this only my opinion
thanks

Seams like you are using some type of martingale strategy. According to probability that's not the best strategy. Just check my simulation.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112216.msg49832531#msg49832531

Betting on Red or Black doesn't guarantee the success of the bet but the strategy apply while betting. Roulette to some extent come with luck and we should not shine away from the truth. Have bet on Red and Black but still yet loose as much while betting.

This is really helpful to decrease the odds and increase the probability of winning. The datas can be correct but the luck you have doesnt have datas and information so ut cant be calculated. Even we know the possible ways to bet to earn more, we still cant fight the luck we have that day.

It will work but not always, you have to look for another strategies because this one will not last. In gambling LUCK is the only thing that remains constant, it will never change and gamblers will depend on this. Roulette is a game where your strategies can be useless, play with just a simple goal to limit your expenses and to have a more profit.

Your strategies aren't good type because roulette game is far more winning than just betting on the red and the black for winnings. Though many commenters said they bet on red or black and turn winning for them, maybe that's their luck as luck is all about gambling.

You also get less house odds compared to other games. Red/Black has odds of 47.6% in Roulette, which equates to a 2.6% house edge. So ultimately, it is worse than say Dice where the house edge is about 1% or even less in many cases.

well from all gamble games roulette is not that bad. You have Slot machine where odds are set by machine owner (you don't know it and can't count it). Same as scratchcard. The worst gamble game is the one where you cant cout probablity.
Lotteries (put 2$ win 100 mil $) are the one with highest house edge. Up to 50%

I agree betting with bigger chances to win (and of course lowest win ) at least increase game time before you lose fully ). Basically you get more rounds, or more entertainment for the same money. As expected value for endless play is always total loss.

lol roulette is one gambling game that requires nothing but LUCK so even how good you think you are and having strategy still not enough if luck dont favor you so i think there cant be specific answer here than "must be Lucky" this is like slot machine that has no other way to win but luck.

In fact, they have nothing in common.
1-roulette is a game in which you play against casino. Statistic advantage is on casino site so it is impossible to win in long term no matter what system you have ... martingale too (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5177375.msg52217862#msg52217862)
2- poker is a game in which you play against other player. None of the players have statistic advantage. Any skill (counting odds and money management f.e.) allows you to earn in long term where luck does not matter (after infinite amount of games every possible card set will hit you good once, bad once - the key to earn is to win as much as it is possible on good once and loss ass little ass possible with bad once) - You can read more here - Play poker to train trading (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5122226.msg50225995#msg50225995)

You might want to consider switching to dice. Faster outcomes, smaller bets. Roulette is more like for bigger bets when you are hunting numbers rather than looking to martingale long streaks. That's how I see it anyway.

An actual roulette wheel is very fun though! Online it's just not quite the same, not even with livebetting dealers, don't you think?

@Emma poker and roulette are so not the same. Anyone could play roulette immediately. Poker takes time to even learn the suits if you've never touched cards before.

There is no magic strategy, martingale is popular but it only works in the short term.

But don't forget that you can still lose even after the first trial! I personally prefer other gambling games, roulette is not my thing unless I want a quick winning but the risk is never to be ruled out.

I don't really understand this craze surrounding Roulette. I do agree that it provides a ton of fun, but 2.7% or higher house edge is bad when compared to something like Baccarat Banker bet where the HE is only around 1.06%.

If gamblers want to earn seriously, I believe Baccarat and Blackjack(Optimal strategy) are better bets in comparison. Poker is even better if you are good at it.

Because basically the reason why is that roulette is actually having too much option and the chances of winning is too low compared to other betting platforms and games such as dice and those that only has a 50/50 chances. But the only disadvantage about this is that, your winnings will depend on how much you bet unlike the roulette where you can win too much with a jackpot as well.

basically if u using mathematical like that or even algorithm , and bam , its like on the table u give.
but well , basically people came to roulette table with a dream and miracle thing.
just a few people came with speculation and prediction.

That's what greed and ignorant do, they not think wisely before doing something in gambling. Continually doing that will make lose all your money without even realizing it. So you need to control your emotions just like trading.

Good decision making is the key in playing Roulette game, there's no strategies but thinking about how play goes will help you to think more.

Critical thinking skills is also essential for you to execute all the actions you've thinking.