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Title: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: TalkStar on February 20, 2019, 09:31:26 AM
Hello everyone,

As a member of bitcointalk I think we need someone like marlboroza (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php action=profile;u=787736) on DT1 list. In early days he has done a tremendous job against scammers, spammers and many more like them to keep the forum secure. Having a DT1 member like him can be a threat for those who always try to commit fraudlent activities.

I beleive vote on be half of him has been increased than past. Even he was not in my trust list before but right now i also added him on my custom trust list. There's may be personal reason for having this decission from his side. I don't want to ask any question on that purpose where he doesn't want to give any answer. But  from my own perspective i want to see him on DT1 again.

IMO marlboroza always serve the forum with his great investigating power. Which members I follow in bitcointalk for my inspiration marlboroza is one of them.

I beleive its our time to show respect and love for him.



Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: Findingnemo on February 20, 2019, 11:26:58 AM
marlboroza met all the criteria to become DT1 other than create a custom trust list so which made him disqualified from DT1,but still his feedback is threat to the scammers since he still on DT2 and he can't do anything to get out from that because it is not in his hand.


Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: TryNinja on February 20, 2019, 12:28:56 PM
Wasn’t he telling everyone that he didn’t want to be in DT1 and that people should exclude him from their trust list?

Go here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

Add this to your trust list:

~marlboroza

I will bump this until I am excluded.

No explanation. No questions, no PM. Not addressing.

Thank you.

Love you all. Except scammers.



Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 20, 2019, 05:22:21 PM
I voted No only out of respect because he does not want to be on DT. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108783.0 Here's the whole topic for those who missed it somehow.

I of course would like to see him change his mind and I trust his ratings, but sometime's people just don't want to deal with the hassle. Totally understand and wish him the best.


Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: bill gator on February 20, 2019, 05:27:19 PM
marlboroza is not the first member to bow out of DT1, in fact some of the most prominent members have done so. I was pretty concerned about a few of these myself, but we cannot force them into being on DT1 if they do not wish to be nor is there any reason to do so. It's possible that many of these cases are to stand in protest against the new system, to avoid DT drama or personal reasons that arise unexpectedly. Whatever the case, I think the best way to show our love and respect for these members is to adhere to their wishes and allow them to make their own decisions.

You should add any inclusions/exclusions of theirs that you agree with and would like to maintain.


Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: LoyceV on February 20, 2019, 05:52:01 PM
I'm not voting for several reason:
  • If marlboroza doesn't want to be on DT1, why would we force him?
  • There's absolutely no point being on DT1 if a user has no custom trust list.
  • His (great) scam busting can continue on DT2, which is where he is now.
  • One of his reasons for wanting to leave DT1 was the drama (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108783.msg49702473#msg49702473) around it, this poll isn't helping.


Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: suchmoon on February 20, 2019, 06:00:12 PM
I voted No only out of respect because he does not want to be on DT.

I respect him by including him in DT2. It's not like it's a 9-5 job he has to show up for... I think he'll survive.


Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: Quickseller on February 20, 2019, 06:35:49 PM
Remove marlboroza (me, me) from DT2

Go here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

Add this to your trust list:

~marlboroza

I respect him by including him in DT2. [...]
You have a different definition of respect than I do.

Perhaps you should learn what it means to respect someone who doesn’t want something.


Am on mobile and voted yes because I misclicked. I meant to vote 🗳 no.


Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 20, 2019, 06:41:42 PM
I voted No only out of respect because he does not want to be on DT. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108783.0 Here's the whole topic for those who missed it somehow.

I of course would like to see him change his mind and I trust his ratings, but sometime's people just don't want to deal with the hassle. Totally understand and wish him the best.
This is what people don't get about being an active DT member--it is most often more of a pain in the ass than it is rewarding.  And while Id like to see marlboroza back on DT1, I certainly understand why he chose not to be.  I'm not sure what the DT wannabes are thinking, and you know who I'm talking about. 

Guaranteed they'd either misuse the privilege or wouldn't venture to tag scammers in the face of the inevitable blowback that comes from doing so. 

I didn't exclude marlboroza, as I trust his ratings and he doesn't need me to exclude him so as not to be on DT1 anymore.


Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: suchmoon on February 20, 2019, 07:15:28 PM
Perhaps you should learn what it means to respect someone who doesn’t want something.

Yet your faux ethics justifies doxing someone "who doesn’t want [to be doxed]". I don't think I should learn anything from you, scammer.


Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: Quickseller on February 20, 2019, 07:23:31 PM
Perhaps you should learn what it means to respect someone who doesn’t want something.

Yet your faux ethics justifies doxing someone "who doesn’t want [to be doxed]". I don't think I should learn anything from you, scammer.
In case it was unclear, I don’t respect you.

In addition to the above, you failed to respond to my criticism and instead resorted to ad-hominem attacks.


Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: The Cryptovator on February 20, 2019, 07:25:16 PM
Never mind even marlboroza not on DT1 list, currently he is on DT2 list. So his feedback's will visible by default. I have already stated on his thread that I am not going to remove him from my trust list. That means he is always DT1 for me 8).

It's just my suspicion that he want to leave DT1 due to, "part of the problem",if I am not wrong. If everyone like to leave himself then who will solve this part of the problem. Although I respect his decision but I can't accept. So really I want to see him back on DT1, I believe he will change his mind.  


Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: suchmoon on February 20, 2019, 07:27:25 PM
In case it was unclear, I don’t respect you.

In addition to the above, you failed to respond to my criticism and instead resorted to ad-hominem attacks.

In case it was unclear, I responded by ridiculing your fallacy-laden concern trolling. Stop derailing every fucking thread with your bullshit, scammer.


Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: TalkStar on February 21, 2019, 03:18:13 AM
You have a different definition of respect than I do.

Perhaps you should learn what it means to respect someone who doesn’t want something.


Am on mobile and voted yes because I misclicked. I meant to vote 🗳 no.
It doesn't matter anyone wants respect or not but i beleive its my responsibility to show mine. If you deserve anything better than i am ready to give it to you. I will not judge on that circumstance.

I hope @marlboroza will reconsider his decission soon. This community got a lot of impressive activities from him. Yeah i know scammers are really enjoying his departure news.


Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: xolxol on February 21, 2019, 12:06:18 PM
Most of the people doesnt want him in his DT position,so respect that OP.
We have our own reasons not to do something we used to do,respect the man.


Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on February 21, 2019, 01:05:24 PM
Just some small correction >

Marlboroza want to be excluded from D2 , not only D1.
That was his request from day 1 in his thread, because he removed himself from the DT1 by deleting his trust list.
So keeping him in your trust lists is against his will.
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Remove marlboroza (me, me) from DT2

I still have him in my trust list, tho.


Title: Re: ★ We ★★★★★don't★★★★★ want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: Timelord2067 on February 22, 2019, 12:41:59 AM
I've voted no because marlboroza's replies to me in his (me me (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108783.0)) thread were disrespectful towards me (http://archive.fo/2P4CR#selection-5877.85-5877.123) after I asked if we should include his two known alts (http://archive.fo/tOM7g#selection-3815.0-3815.113) in the distrust.

While I won't be placing marlboroza on my DT negative list (such as it is (http://archive.fo/pbaJp#selection-4873.0-4885.7)) I have taken a few days to carefully conciser his attitude and have, for the time being, removed him from my DT trust list.


Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: tmfp on February 22, 2019, 12:50:45 AM
I think Marlboroza's well researched trust feedbacks have been and are of value to the forum and to its members, so he's staying on my inclusion list which means that, while I stay DT1, they will continue to be visible by default as he will stay as DT2 (whether he likes it or not).


Title: Re:
Post by: marlboroza on February 22, 2019, 03:35:32 PM
I voted "No" and that won't happen.
@TalkStar Please fix thread, it contains false information, such as:
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I don't know why marlboroza left from DT1 list without any reason by clearing his own custom trust list.

disrespectful towards me (http://archive.fo/2P4CR#selection-5877.85-5877.123)
??? You shouldn't jump to conclusions like this...
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Hey, what's with neutral?
There's also a positive as well: (you probably can't see it)
It is impossible for me not to see and to forget first positive feedback I received.


Title: Re:
Post by: ac2eugenio on February 22, 2019, 04:20:06 PM
I voted "No" and that won't happen.
@TalkStar Please fix thread, it contains false information, such as:
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I don't know why marlboroza left from DT1 list without any reason by clearing his own custom trust list.

disrespectful towards me (http://archive.fo/2P4CR#selection-5877.85-5877.123)
??? You shouldn't jump to conclusions like this...
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Hey, what's with neutral?
There's also a positive as well: (you probably can't see it)
It is impossible for me not to see and to forget first positive feedback I received.
stop the drama its getting to obvious.


Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: DireWolfM14 on February 22, 2019, 04:52:34 PM
I want to vote "Yes," but out respect for marlboroza's wishes I'm abstaining from the vote.  Like others, I value marlboroza's reviews and want to be able to see his influence on users' trust score.  I'll be keeping him in my custom trust list as well.


Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on February 22, 2019, 05:00:22 PM
I voted No
Reason, the new DT system needs users who're not just actively bursting scammers but willing to accept the responsibility of a DT member which includes participating in the politics aspect associated with it. You don't vote someone into power to handle a position he has started publicly that he isn't interested. marlboroza feedbacks are accurate and impressive but let's just respect his decision and hope, maybe he'll change his decision someday.


Title: Re: ★ We ★★★★★don't★★★★★ want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: Timelord2067 on February 22, 2019, 06:48:37 PM
I voted "No" and that won't happen.
@TalkStar Please fix thread, it contains false information, such as:
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I don't know why marlboroza left from DT1 list without any reason by clearing his own custom trust list.

disrespectful towards me (http://archive.fo/2P4CR#selection-5877.85-5877.123)
??? You shouldn't jump to conclusions like this...
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Hey, what's with neutral?
There's also a positive as well: (you probably can't see it)
It is impossible for me not to see and to forget first positive feedback I received.

What a pity marlboroza is trying to rewrite history by not actually following the link http://archive.fo/2P4CR#selection-5877.85-5877.123 which reads:

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I masturbated on it for few days IIRC.

This is why I removed marlboroza - selectively confrontational.
(Archive) (http://archive.fo/oYVo1#selection-9237.0-9237.63)


Title: Re:
Post by: marlboroza on February 22, 2019, 07:36:03 PM
I quoted what you should read.
You said this (http://archive.fo/wUjSF#selection-5841.0-5841.124):
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There's also a positive as well: (you probably can't see it given how many positive trust posts you have on your trust wall)
And you should focus on this:
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It is impossible for me not to see and to forget first positive feedback I received.
And this one was a joke...
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I masturbated on it for few days IIRC.
::)

Excuse me, what am I trying to rewrite?


Title: Re: ★ We ★★★★★don't★★★★★ want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: Timelord2067 on February 26, 2019, 04:37:52 PM
we all know he wants us to distrust him
You are making things up over and over again.

Quote me exactly part of my post where I specifically said "I want people to distrust me". What part of "exclude me from DT2" you don't understand?

Very well...  I've highlighted the part of your post that shows where you specifically ask us to distrust you.

Go here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

Add this to your trust list:

~marlboroza


I will bump this until I am excluded.

No explanation. No questions, no PM. Not addressing.

Thank you.

Love you all. Except scammers.

The opposite of Positive Trust is Negative Trust.

Positive trust means the "you trust someone"

Negative trust means that "you distrust someone"

I see that you speak Croatian (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4265795.msg49899185#msg49899185). Wonderful country - I hope to be able to visit it one day.  Perhaps it is because of the subtleties of differing languages that when you ask people to put

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~marlboroza

on their DT trust wall you are in effect asking them to distrust you.  Which even myself (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108783.msg49699411#msg49699411) are reluctant to do (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108783.msg49778138#msg49778138).



Am replying here because this discussion is off-topic for the thread it was started in...  ::)


Title: Re: ★ We ★★★★★don't★★★★★ want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: marlboroza on February 26, 2019, 07:56:18 PM
Am replying here because this discussion is off-topic for the thread it was started in...  ::)
Do you think that you are owner of Known Alts thread so you can start shitting on other people and people are not allowed to reply? Don't you have some unanswered questions in that thread?

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Very well...  I've highlighted the part of your post that shows where you specifically ask us to distrust you.
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I will bump this until I am excluded.

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distrust
Dictionary result for distrust
/dɪsˈtrʌst/
noun
noun: distrust; plural noun: distrusts

    1.
    the feeling that someone or something cannot be relied upon.
    synonyms:   mistrust, suspicion, wariness, chariness, lack of trust, lack of confidence, lack of faith; More
    scepticism, doubt, doubtfulness, dubiety, cynicism;
    misgivings, questioning, qualms;
    disbelief, unbelief, incredulity, incredulousness, discredit;
    informalleeriness
    antonyms:   trust

verb: distrust; 3rd person present: distrusts; past tense: distrusted; past participle: distrusted; gerund or present participle: distrusting
    1.
    doubt the honesty or reliability of; regard with suspicion.
    synonyms:   mistrust, be suspicious of, be wary/chary of, regard with suspicion, suspect, look askance at, have no confidence/faith in; More
    be sceptical of, have doubts about, doubt, be unsure of/about, be unconvinced about, take with a pinch/grain of salt;
    have misgivings about, wonder about, question;
    disbelieve (in), not believe, discredit, discount, be incredulous of;
    informalbe leery of, smell a rat
    antonyms:   trust

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exclude
Dictionary result for exclude
/ɪkˈskluːd,ɛkˈskluːd/
verb
verb: exclude; 3rd person present: excludes; past tense: excluded; past participle: excluded; gerund or present participle: excluding

    1.
    deny (someone) access to a place, group, or privilege.
    synonyms:   keep out, deny access to, shut out, debar, disbar, bar, ban, prohibit, put an embargo on, embargo; More
    reject, blackball, ostracize, banish;
    cut out, freeze out;
    send to Coventry
    antonyms:   accept, admit
        keep (something) out of a place.

    2.
    remove from consideration.
    synonyms:   eliminate, rule out, factor out; More
    preclude, prevent the occurrence of;
    formalexcept
    antonyms:   allow for
        prevent the occurrence of.
        synonyms:   eliminate, rule out, factor out; More
        preclude, prevent the occurrence of;
        formalexcept
        antonyms:   allow for

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Positive trust means the "you trust someone"
Negative trust means that "you distrust someone"

Are you talking about trust list or trust feedback now?

What does this mean Timelord:
The guy who wants us to distrust him (without explanation) is pondering if those around him are paranoid?
Explain me this post.


Then explain everything posted in last few pages in known alts, and as you pick only one thing from my last post in known alts, feel free to discuss every single thing mentioned in that post, and as you went full troll after this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg49916524#msg49916524 feel free to discuss links from that post too.


Title: Re: ★ We want @marlboroza on DT1 again ★
Post by: Timelord2067 on February 26, 2019, 08:02:19 PM
Oh dear, you need to have a cup of tea, take a Bex and have a good lie down.