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Title: Not fair account ban
Post by: opium3 on February 22, 2019, 11:43:44 AM
This morning, when I opened the forum, I was very upset to see the cool inscription that my account was blocked for spam or plagiarism. I never dealt with plagiarism, so I suspect that I got a ban for spamming.
But it is difficult to call it spam as I have only published reports for social networks in bounty topics for quite a long time.

Link to the profile of the banned account - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=939701
User Name - Opium

I understand that I did not bring any benefits for the forum, but also no damage. Who or what could I harm by publishing reports on bounty topics?

I also understand that unlocking my account is unlikely, but I had to try.
Dear moderators and administrators of the forum, please, overestimate the ban of my account.
I wish you all good.)


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: Veleor on February 22, 2019, 12:13:12 PM
Link to the profile of the banned account - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=939701
User Name - Opium

Copy and pasting

Copy:
I think this is a good medium to connect different writers with readers. Keep up the good work.
Original:
I think this is a good medium to connect different writers with readers. Keep up the good work.

Copy:
Thanks to the team that wrote the post and reminded about your company. Saw your news on Twitter but only now registered to the bounty. All thanks and success!
Original:
Thanks to the team that wrote the post and reminded about your company. Saw your news on Twitter but only now registered to the bounty. All thanks and success!

Copy:
Very nice concept to your project. I really love it. And I would to particpate in your ICO. Thank you dev. Hoping for your success.
Original:
Very nice concept to your project. I really love it. And I would to particpate in your ICO. Thank you dev. Hoping for your success.



33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.
~ This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: opium3 on February 22, 2019, 12:21:34 PM
Link to the profile of the banned account - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=939701
User Name - Opium

Copy and pasting

Copy:
I think this is a good medium to connect different writers with readers. Keep up the good work.
Original:
I think this is a good medium to connect different writers with readers. Keep up the good work.

Copy:
Thanks to the team that wrote the post and reminded about your company. Saw your news on Twitter but only now registered to the bounty. All thanks and success!
Original:
Thanks to the team that wrote the post and reminded about your company. Saw your news on Twitter but only now registered to the bounty. All thanks and success!

Copy:
Very nice concept to your project. I really love it. And I would to particpate in your ICO. Thank you dev. Hoping for your success.
Original:
Very nice concept to your project. I really love it. And I would to particpate in your ICO. Thank you dev. Hoping for your success.



33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.
~ This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.

This makes no sense!!! I am 300% sure that even 2 years ago I was not engaged in plagiarism.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: Veleor on February 22, 2019, 12:29:22 PM
This makes no sense!!! I am 300% sure that even 2 years ago I was not engaged in plagiarism.

Do you know these users?

7 Accounts Connected:

foserfox  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=485194), Creol  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=899173), QellDroma  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=872363) , opium  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=939701), ARTIST 1991  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1461080), MrDongyy  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1579834), irressisteble (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1629725)

<...>


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: opium3 on February 22, 2019, 12:35:23 PM
This makes no sense!!! I am 300% sure that even 2 years ago I was not engaged in plagiarism.

Do you know these users?

7 Accounts Connected:

foserfox  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=485194), Creol  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=899173), QellDroma  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=872363) , opium  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=939701), ARTIST 1991  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1461080), MrDongyy  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1579834), irressisteble (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1629725)

<...>
No, none of this list is unfamiliar to me.
Except "opium", of course.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: Alone055 on February 22, 2019, 12:38:50 PM
This makes no sense!!! I am 300% sure that even 2 years ago I was not engaged in plagiarism.

Things start to make no sense when we try to be innocent but the wrongs things we've done are dug up.  ::)

none of this list is unfamiliar to me.

Which means you are familiar with all of them.  ::) You wanted to lie but your words deceived you, and you said the truth though unknowingly.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: opium3 on February 22, 2019, 12:41:50 PM
This makes no sense!!! I am 300% sure that even 2 years ago I was not engaged in plagiarism.

Things start to make no sense when we try to be innocent but the wrongs things we've done are dug up.  ::)

none of this list is unfamiliar to me.

Which means you are familiar with all of them.  ::) You wanted to lie but your words deceived you, and you said the truth though unknowingly.
I am not lying!
I am telling the truth. None of these accounts make any sense to me. I have never been engaged in multi-breeding.
THIS IS NOT MY ACCOUNTS!
Ready to provide any evidence.
Maybe someone tried to set me up? I remember several times I received a small part of ETH to my wallet, and did not understand where and why it came from.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: opium3 on February 22, 2019, 01:00:19 PM
https://imgur.com/a/RmIf2gk

This transaction was not. You can check it yourself ...


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: theyoungmillionaire on February 22, 2019, 01:17:17 PM
Life is not fair, opium3. Even if you’re saying the truth and have done many good things in this forum, when you break any rules it will be remembered. Your next action will outline your future. Life is unfair, but, you still need to move on. Yeah, I know, I’m just saying these because I’m not in your situation, you can start a new beautiful beginning here, my friend.

You are remembered for the rules you break. - Douglas MacArthur

See you around.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: opium3 on February 22, 2019, 01:29:24 PM
I agree that 3 purses from the list provided by the guy who is trying to accuse me of connecting 7 accounts are mine. But the rest is no. And, by the way, the transaction circled in the red on the screen does not exist. You can see for yourself.

https://imgur.com/a/RmIf2gk


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 22, 2019, 01:36:54 PM
This makes no sense!!! I am 300% sure that even 2 years ago I was not engaged in plagiarism.

Things start to make no sense when we try to be innocent but the wrongs things we've done are dug up.  ::)

none of this list is unfamiliar to me.

Which means you are familiar with all of them.  ::) You wanted to lie but your words deceived you, and you said the truth though unknowingly.
I am not lying!
I am telling the truth. None of these accounts make any sense to me. I have never been engaged in multi-breeding.
THIS IS NOT MY ACCOUNTS!



I agree that 3 purses from the list provided by the guy who is trying to accuse me of connecting 7 accounts are mine.

https://imgur.com/a/RmIf2gk

So which is it? You're not lying or 3 accounts are yours? 1st it was I have not copied or plagiarized anyone, then proof is shown multiple times. Then accounts are listed that you deny connection with and now are claiming 3 of them.

We do not need your type here if you cannot come forth and tell the truth from the get go. Is this how you get through life? Just lie your way through it?


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: theyoungmillionaire on February 22, 2019, 01:38:17 PM
I am not lying!
I am telling the truth. None of these accounts make any sense to me. I have never been engaged in multi-breeding.
THIS IS NOT MY ACCOUNTS!
Ready to provide any evidence.
Maybe someone tried to set me up? I remember several times I received a small part of ETH to my wallet, and did not understand where and why it came from.

I agree that 3 purses from the list provided by the guy who is trying to accuse me of connecting 7 accounts are mine. But the rest is no.
opium3, if you keep doing these stuff and then admit something that is connected to you will surely not help. You can just move on and lock this topic.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: opium3 on February 22, 2019, 01:41:27 PM
I am not lying!
I am telling the truth. None of these accounts make any sense to me. I have never been engaged in multi-breeding.
THIS IS NOT MY ACCOUNTS!
Ready to provide any evidence.
Maybe someone tried to set me up? I remember several times I received a small part of ETH to my wallet, and did not understand where and why it came from.

I agree that 3 purses from the list provided by the guy who is trying to accuse me of connecting 7 accounts are mine. But the rest is no.
opium3, if you keep doing these stuff and then admit something that is connected to you will surely not help. You can just move on and lock this topic.
Yes, you figure it out first, then blame me. I said that 3 purses from the list are mine !!!
And these 3 wallets were always used by the same account. This account is "opium"

Did you watch the picture that I showed ???
And then go to my wallet, and find this transfer!
Found ??? Not found, because it is not.
So what is it then ???


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: coinlocket$ on February 22, 2019, 01:45:51 PM
1- your account(s) is(are) not tagged from any DT for abusing bounties, the post was made to report suspected transactions between account. Did anyone tagged you? No.

2- you are not be banned for cheating bounties, none will be banned for this. Sadly.

3- you are permabanned for plagiarism, even if you keep saying you did nothing wrong.

So for your information, the problem is not the suspicious abusing but your plagiarism.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: suchmoon on February 22, 2019, 01:50:27 PM
This makes no sense!!! I am 300% sure that even 2 years ago I was not engaged in plagiarism.

There are unedited posts proving otherwise. Lock the thread and move on, you can't win this.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: opium3 on February 22, 2019, 01:51:50 PM
1- your account(s) is(are) not be tagged from any DT for abusing bounties, the post was made to report suspected transactions between account. Did anyone tagged you? No.

2- you are not be banned for cheating bounties, none will be banned for this. Sadly.

3- you are permabanned for plagiarism, even if you keep saying you did nothing wrong.

So for your information, the problem is not the suspicious abusing but your plagiarism.

I understand, everyone thinks that I am another balabol. But I am telling the truth, I have never copied other people's messages since the creation of the "opium" account. I understand that the second message in this topic proves the opposite, but how the hell can it be possible ???


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: opium3 on February 22, 2019, 01:58:38 PM
1- your account(s) is(are) not tagged from any DT for abusing bounties, the post was made to report suspected transactions between account. Did anyone tagged you? No.

2- you are not be banned for cheating bounties, none will be banned for this. Sadly.

3- you are permabanned for plagiarism, even if you keep saying you did nothing wrong.

So for your information, the problem is not the suspicious abusing but your plagiarism.
question to you, you provided a screen with a transfer of 0.01 ETH to my wallet.
But this transaction (even this block) is not in my wallet. How can you comment on this?


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: theyoungmillionaire on February 22, 2019, 02:03:01 PM
but how the hell can it be possible ???
Using pilot(bot) for signature campaign posts?

question to you, you provided a screen with a transfer of 0.01 ETH to my wallet.
But this transaction (even this block) is not in my wallet. How can you comment on this?
You don't need to question anything about connected accounts, your case is plagiarism.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: opium3 on February 22, 2019, 02:07:28 PM
but how the hell can it be possible ???
Using pilot(bot) for signature campaign posts?

question to you, you provided a screen with a transfer of 0.01 ETH to my wallet.
But this transaction (even this block) is not in my wallet. How can you comment on this?
You don't need to question anything about connected accounts, your case is plagiarism.

I'm still interested. Where does this screen come from? Photoshop? What for???

No, never used bots. Always wrote everything himself.
Can you tell me how to look when the message was edited and was it edited at all?

I was always sure that I would not get banned, especially for plagiarism. It's just some kind of garbage.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: theyoungmillionaire on February 22, 2019, 02:17:23 PM
No, never used bots. Always wrote everything himself.
Nice bot, doing everything by himself.

Can you tell me how to look when the message was edited and was it edited at all?
https://i.imgur.com/Wi6L1nC.png
View image (https://i.imgur.com/Wi6L1nC.png)

I was always sure that I would not get banned, especially for plagiarism. It's just some kind of garbage.
Lock this topic


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: opium3 on February 22, 2019, 02:30:53 PM
Good. Let's suppose that theoretically yes, there was plagiarism (although I still did not do this). But he was 2 years old.
2 years ago.
The rules were edited last time on December 27, 2018.
Maybe at the time when plagiarism was published this was not in the rules?

What do you think about this ??
I understand that you all do not care about users like me. But still...


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: DdmrDdmr on February 22, 2019, 02:39:28 PM
<...> Also, for the last thing, there has never been a ban appeal here that ever wins. Not a single one (during my stay for 1 year - I don't know before that)
There is this one case I recall (June 2018), where a person was framed and reported for plagiarism (see  vulnerability of the forum. slander in plagiarism  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4601461.msg41531535#msg41531535)). @Theymos and some other mods reviewed the case and the account was unbanned. It is nevertheless an extremely well argument case and an exception to what we usually see here where the starting point is that of having no clue to what happened to their account.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on February 22, 2019, 02:39:51 PM
Good. Let's suppose that theoretically yes, there was plagiarism (although I still did not do this). But he was 2 years old.
2 years ago.
The rules were edited last time on December 27, 2018.
Maybe at the time when plagiarism was published this was not in the rules?

What do you think about this ??
I understand that you all do not care about users like me. But still...

I know it doesn't sounds fair to be banned for something that happens so long ago but I can assure you that the plagiarism has always been in the rules no matter the last edits+ those were done mostly to correct errors or update according to the last changes in the forum.

On the other hand. We have multiple hard evidence against your word. How can we trust you? We just can't. I'm so sorry but you have to leave the forum, until you pull the same hard evidence to show that we are wrong.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: Halab on February 22, 2019, 02:44:06 PM
Good. Let's suppose that theoretically yes, there was plagiarism (although I still did not do this). But he was 2 years old.
2 years ago.
The rules were edited last time on December 27, 2018.
Maybe at the time when plagiarism was published this was not in the rules?

In October 2017, there were already topics in the same kind as yours: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2296660.0.
And the answers were the same as today.



Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: Veleor on February 22, 2019, 02:46:12 PM
Good. Let's suppose that theoretically yes, there was plagiarism (although I still did not do this). But he was 2 years old.

Plagiarism from the last year.

Copy:
This month has been about discovering new limitations in the Ethereum network and the associated problems Bancor users face when congestion increases. We’ve made changes to address a sequencing issue when multiple transactions are pending, a gas fee increase adaption and better alerts throughout the site and product to help users understand how instabilities may affect them.

Original:
This month has been about discovering new limitations in the Ethereum network and the associated problems Bancor users face when congestion increases. We’ve made changes to address a sequencing issue when multiple transactions are pending, a gas fee increase adaption and better alerts throughout the site and product to help users understand how instabilities may affect them.



Also, for the last thing, there has never been a ban appeal here that ever wins.

Successful appeals were actually, but one of the acquitted users ruined all things. Read on this page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5076021.msg48269635#msg48269635).


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: coinlocket$ on February 22, 2019, 02:46:32 PM
1- your account(s) is(are) not tagged from any DT for abusing bounties, the post was made to report suspected transactions between account. Did anyone tagged you? No.

2- you are not be banned for cheating bounties, none will be banned for this. Sadly.

3- you are permabanned for plagiarism, even if you keep saying you did nothing wrong.

So for your information, the problem is not the suspicious abusing but your plagiarism.
question to you, you provided a screen with a transfer of 0.01 ETH to my wallet.
But this transaction (even this block) is not in my wallet. How can you comment on this?

Was done a long time ago I don't remember how but

1- can be a mistake

2- from a quick search

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uahgZpR0drOtEgb94EOBK-9D6dRyOVs09FuROpDY7ks/edit#gid=1268809405
https://puu.sh/CQ4QM/f70c7dd6ae.png

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ygK9IHfoNCsr5KBSoZh3Nk_mQkNjsD4R-t5nueveE4g/edit#gid=1922047923
https://puu.sh/CQ4Rz/d3b5b3a37e.png

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ygK9IHfoNCsr5KBSoZh3Nk_mQkNjsD4R-t5nueveE4g/edit
https://puu.sh/CQ4Re/85bc8544de.png

https://puu.sh/CQ5wd/8852c39f90.png


Facebook post: https://www.facebook.com/vivvipop/posts/773286613,054461

Anyway I repeat, nobody tagged you and this is not the reason for yot ban.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: DdmrDdmr on February 22, 2019, 02:50:07 PM
<…>2 years ago.
The rules were edited last time on December 27, 2018.
Maybe at the time when plagiarism was published this was not in the rules?<…>
Two year should be sufficient history in my opinion. Going further back seems a bit far stretched, and people are entitled to change. But it's not how it currently stands.

Nevertheless,  rule number 33 related to plagiarism was around on the 21/11/2016 (see https://web.archive.org/web/20161121133329/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0), but not on the 06/05/2016 (see https://web.archive.org/web/20160506061123/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0). The former date means that the rule was in state at the time you broke it…


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: suchmoon on February 22, 2019, 02:51:22 PM
Good. Let's suppose that theoretically yes, there was plagiarism (although I still did not do this). But he was 2 years old.
2 years ago.
The rules were edited last time on December 27, 2018.
Maybe at the time when plagiarism was published this was not in the rules?

What do you think about this ??
I understand that you all do not care about users like me. But still...

I think that you're wasting our time. The "I didn't do it but even if I did it's not a big deal" defense is not going to work. The rule has been there for more than two years: https://archive.fo/MRmXq#selection-746.175-746.177

What's next? "I was hacked"? "I was drunk"?

The only thing that can still happen here if you keep pushing your luck is that more proof of your sockpuppeting will come up and you'll lose those alts too.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: Veleor on February 22, 2019, 02:56:39 PM
<...> Nevertheless,  rule number 33 related to plagiarism was around on the 21/11/2016 (see https://web.archive.org/web/20161121133329/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0), but not on the 06/05/2016 (see https://web.archive.org/web/20160506061123/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0).

Does this mean that users with plagiarism before 21/11/2016 should not get banned?


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: opium3 on February 22, 2019, 03:07:24 PM
Good. Let's suppose that theoretically yes, there was plagiarism (although I still did not do this). But he was 2 years old.
2 years ago.
The rules were edited last time on December 27, 2018.
Maybe at the time when plagiarism was published this was not in the rules?

What do you think about this ??
I understand that you all do not care about users like me. But still...

I think that you're wasting our time. The "I didn't do it but even if I did it's not a big deal" defense is not going to work. The rule has been there for more than two years: https://archive.fo/MRmXq#selection-746.175-746.177

What's next? "I was hacked"? "I was drunk"?

The only thing that can still happen here if you keep pushing your luck is that more proof of your sockpuppeting will come up and you'll lose those alts too.

Not. Nothing like this will happen, you can be calm.
But I would like to ask you: what do you mean by the expression "you will lose your violas too"?


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: DdmrDdmr on February 22, 2019, 03:10:49 PM
<…> Does this mean that users with plagiarism before 21/11/2016 should not get banned? <…>
Well it raises a fair question.
The rule was added somewhere between the 06/05/2016 and the 21/11/2016 (I haven’t seen any other historical snapshots in between to narrow it down any further). It’s over two years, but the rules are the official unofficial rules, and not a set of common law articles which normally are not retroactive. By that, I guess that cases are really down to admin/mod best judgment, and they may or may not consider the date as a factor when presented with a case of plagiarism that occurred before mid-2016.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: opium3 on February 22, 2019, 03:14:09 PM
Good. Let's suppose that theoretically yes, there was plagiarism (although I still did not do this). But he was 2 years old.

Plagiarism from the last year.

Copy:
This month has been about discovering new limitations in the Ethereum network and the associated problems Bancor users face when congestion increases. We’ve made changes to address a sequencing issue when multiple transactions are pending, a gas fee increase adaption and better alerts throughout the site and product to help users understand how instabilities may affect them.

Original:
This month has been about discovering new limitations in the Ethereum network and the associated problems Bancor users face when congestion increases. We’ve made changes to address a sequencing issue when multiple transactions are pending, a gas fee increase adaption and better alerts throughout the site and product to help users understand how instabilities may affect them.



Also, for the last thing, there has never been a ban appeal here that ever wins.

Successful appeals were actually, but one of the acquitted users ruined all things. Read on this page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5076021.msg48269635#msg48269635).

Are there any other posts that were plagiarized? In addition to these 4 that you have already published in this thread.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: suchmoon on February 22, 2019, 03:27:08 PM
Not. Nothing like this will happen, you can be calm.
But I would like to ask you: what do you mean by the expression "you will lose your violas too"?

violas? :)

Again with the "I didn't do it but in case I did" nonsense... your alts will be banned too. You can't use another account once you've been banned, except for the appeal thread. You really should read the rules.

Are there any other posts that were plagiarized? In addition to these 4 that you have already published in this thread.

Yes. Doesn't change anything though.


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: morvillz7z on February 22, 2019, 03:28:43 PM
Are there any other posts that were plagiarized? In addition to these 4 that you have already published in this thread.

A single plagiarized post is sufficient to get yourself banned. But since you are so curious, here's another example:

Another Website Integrates the Bancor Widget

You can now use the Bancor conversion widget on the MyWish website, one of the newest tokens to activate in the Bancor Network. Another step in achieving truly decentralized liquidity is allowing users to convert their tokens from anywhere, directly from their Web3 wallets.

https://i.ibb.co/mTysq3J/bancor.jpg

https://blog.bancor.network/bancor-progress-update-466766be1dc6


Title: Re: Not fair account ban
Post by: opium3 on February 22, 2019, 03:33:10 PM
Okay guys. Got it. I apologize for your time spent.
You can delete / close the topic.
All the best.