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As compared to cryptocurrency market, the prices of stocks in stock market are quite stable. Unlike various altcoins, they do not suddenly increase or decrease (pump or dump) with 30-40% in a day. Is this because less people are into crypto market and the cryptocurrency prices are controlled by those who have ample amount of coins?

So, will mass adoption stabalize the prices of Bitcoin and altcoins?

If we look at the alt-coin market, coins that have seen stable development and been here for sometime do not see much movement in price. The only time that the better alts see wild variations is when there is FOMO for Bitcoin.

As far as the alts that keep getting announced in alt-coin sections with their telegram channels, plagiarized whitepapers and template based websites, the only reason they exist is to make the clever web designers rich. They are pump and dump schemes with everyone waiting to dump at their target price (2X, 10X, 100X). Mass adoption will not help the price fluctuations for most of these alts because they are scams created for the sole purpose of pumps and dumps.

Where bitcoin prices are concerned, mass adoption will only mean that the price will go up. There is no central authority to peg the value to come to an agreement on the price. (Like, for example, the London Gold Fixing for Gold Prices). In its absence, the price only goes up with adoption and people/ institutions FOMOing to buy in. The constant development, miner support and security of the network are major trigger factors for the price to break out. Whenever one of these things come on positive or negative focus, bitcoin price starts its movements in that direction. The one certain thing is that these prices aren't stabilizing anytime soon. In that case, you gotta go by the  golden rule of crypto. 1BTC = 1 BTC (always)

Mass adoption will only make the price of Bitcoin soar higher alongside with the altcoins. Though stability of those coins will be appreciated if they stay stable unlike the gold price. We are hoping that in the nearest future adoption of cryptocurrency will manifest.

if you compare with stocks and foreign exchange with crypto not comparable, the share price which is a stable majority is influenced by high levels of trading users, while the cryptocurrency at that time had around a thousand trades to install coins and tokens, Crypto pumps and dumps that had few trading users can be pumped by a handful of people who have a lot of funds

One of the first step to attaining stability is to regulate. If regulation is installed then any other factors will enhance stability. Without regulation there can still be mass adoption and there won’t be stability . Infact mass adoption will only be achieved with some amount of stability. So it’s really intertwined as all factors work together for each other. Let’s get regulated then there will stablity and more mass adoption which will bring more stability.

No, mass adoption will only make the cryptocurrency value increase higher, but the problem is how long they will last, and of course if many sell it will make the situation decline.

Nothing will chance, crypto has been very volatile since its inception so I don't think that the price could be stable, perhaps it will be less volatile. Remember that the market is based on pure speculation so that eliminates stability to begin with.

In my opinion and thoughts, I don't really think that the stock market price is stable we can say that the price is still changing but in a less volatile manner if we then say that it is really stable it will not change and stay for the better, I really think that the fiat currencies value is always in a less volatility state while in the cryptocurrency case it varies depending on the drama it can get, We can say that we are in the midst of less volatile year but in the following years to come we are already waiting for a higher chance of high volatility that we always call bull run,

Well, I think that would be my opinion regarding the topic I think we can not say that the currency and other commodities are stable if the price is still changing but in a less moving manner, So there is no such thing as stable.

yes, people / communities with large funds easily control the crypto market unlike stocks that have control of the company according to product quality

that doesn't necessarily happen to

There are thousands of altcoins, many of which does not have an actual working or practical product, and hence nothing to support the price from falling or to dictate how high it rises.

Bitcoin is also volatile, not as much as majority of altcoins.
Mass adoption is one of those factors that would bring aboit price stability. And pairing the price with products and services not fiat.

Of course, they can, but the question is could they handle all of the crypto markets at the same time? We know that in out there many big exchanges with a big volume trade daily and there are small and mid-range exchanges, so they need to have bigger power to handle.

I am sure that many people are into crypto, and they still trade in all exchanges, but the mass adoption will not make the crypto price stabilize. If there is a demand, the supply will come to serve, and there is always up and down many times daily.

Mass adoption will make bitcoin go high and won't guarantee the stability of bitcoin. There is no such thing as stability because bitcoin is naturally a volatile market and will once the mass adoption is there, it will only make the bitcoin high.

If we want stability in Bitcoin, I can tell that it's not even possible. There will always times that the value changes rapidly. But yes, compared to fiat currencies, Bitcoin is a decentralized market and will not be regulated in the prices. That is the reason why stability is not the thing.

Mass adoption will make the price skyrocket roughly two orders of magnitude, and it will bring about greater stability but its not like the price won't move, it'll just be less volatile. It'll never be so stable that the price won't change much.

I highly doubt that Cryptocurrency and Stock Market has the same issue on how they work, I really think that Mass adoption is not the solution to stabilize the price but a thing to really make is more volatile, If we see in stock market fiat currency is controlled by banks you can not produce your own money the bank controls the number of money they can circulate while in Bitcoin we have miners that are continuously mining for blocks until we can see the last block they will surely not stop, And speaking of the last block, Maybe that is the answer? Because we never know if what can happen to the price of bitcoin if we are down to the last block.

Yes, mass adoption wil stabalize the price and even make it increase and thats beacuse a higher number of persons own a certain coin and its very hard to convice a large percentage of them to sell it just by spreading FUD. But mass adoption is just a small step in stabilizing the price so this mean it will not be the thing that is instantlly going to make the price become stable.

Yes in theory a more equal distribution of coins amongst more people would definitely result in less volatility. We still have some Bitcoin whales with a lot of coins, who might be manipulating the price and this will only be prevented if we can distribute those coins to more people.  ;)

The volatility will still be there, but it will be a lot less. You would need a lot more people to synchronize their buy & sell orders to cause more volatility.  ::)

When there's a fast changing fluctuations along with massive adoption there might be no stabilized price. Possible increasing price of bitcoin will happen same with other altcoins, it will definitely gain higher sustainable value. Although we seen that in a certain level right now, it seems stability was just a good start but eventually growth of each coins will happen randomly.

Because it is not difficult to move prices in market which marketcap is 140 billion. So, the actual factor is value. In addition, crypto is far away from attention, so it is ease for whales to pump-dump prices. E.g, in money pairs if anyone wants to influence market, likely will be punished by ''huge powers''.
Yes, mass adoption will cause it to become more stable over time, though not suddenly.

Is that the price of Bitcoin, is moved by Strong Hands, have the ability to do it, the money to do it, we, as merchants, we can not move the market much, as they could do.

In these moments, what they want is to accumulate all the possible Bitcoins, that's why Bitcoin can not reach high prices for now, because if it verifies that millionaire portfolios go from 62% to 63%, we could think that the price is ready to work. up when it rises to 70% to 80% ... That way we would be ready, since the floating offer would be eliminated and we could think of an uptrend, and possibly a new ATH. For this, strong hands have money and time.

Crypto mass adoption  . that means new people will enter and constantly invest to cryptos .  cryptos will be indemand and that also means that the price can rose higher but many people will see it as an oppurtunity to sell . so no , the price can become more volatile not stable  .

Crypto was better to be volatile because this is the only way that we can earn bigger income compare to when it is stable  . traders and investers will agree on that .

It's going to be a very long process. Adoption is not the only reason for stability. Until there are whales with thousands of bitcoins there will be no stability. They are playing with the price and manipulating everything taking profits from bitcoin futures. They aren't going to spend if they are able to and they aren't going to stop erecting buy and sell walls on exchanges as long as people are reacting to their plays.

Crypto seems to be wide accepted in the future once it is finally legalize and it is quite to stay at ease of what it have shown to us for many year rather than to be stabilze.
Each fluctuation will be our chance to gain profit and it is great but if it will be stabilize, I'm afraid it won't be that much. The more it became volatile the more we get money.

Possible adoption of crypto will lead to some stability. But first of all, the adoption of crypto in any country will first provoke its growth. Only then it is unknown how it will affect crypto.

One of the reasons crypto is unstable is because it's decentralised, and because its decentralised there is a big chance the price could be manipulated, the mass adoption could weaken the whales manipulation because more people using it the distribution amount will be more spread out, so I think the mass adoption could make crypto price become more stable

The price will go up and be much higher than now if it was mass adopted and maybe it would stabilize, but not much. The price would stay volatile as it is now, I think mass adoption can't help that much about stabilizing the price. Bitcoin is volatile because decentralised and unless it becomes centralized (and it wont) it's price can't be fixed to  one value.

Bulk crypto adoption can of course have a pretty good effect on crypto price stability, but it all depends on which crypto they buy, unless they massively adopt large amounts of bitcoin, of course the price of bitcoin will move to a higher level. Even so the price of bitcoin will remain unstable, he will still move fluctuatively because this thing s another added value of bitcoin and crypto.

I do not believe that mass adoption of cryptocurrencies will bring about price stability. This premise should be the other way round as I am of the opinion that price stability will have a key role to play in enhancing widespread adoption of cryptocurrencies. If we do ever get to experience price stability in the cryptocurrency sphere, it might still be a long way off. I also have a feeling that this might be really difficult because there are people still looking to profit from the prevalent hypervolatility in the crypto space and people like that try to trigger the pump and dump effect for their personal gain.

You are right it depends on which crypto coin people adopt and I feel that there are so many altcoins nowadays which has promising feature which might make bitcoin or other top ten crypto coins look full in front of them and all they need is mass adoption and it will change the course of the game.

Mass adoption of bitcoin around the globe will help with the growth of the cryptocurrency network, also this will help with the increase in the market capital.. Market won't get stabilized of the mass adoption with time period.

Your statement for mass adoption does have a number of possibilities. The first possibility is the opportunity for bitcoin to rise uncontrollably. Because there will be no authority that oversees and suppresses the value of bitcoin and after the market rises it will be accompanied by a decline in the wild. The second possibility is that the market experiences stability because mass adoption is usually accompanied by rules or legality. Therefore many people will agree to make the value of bitcoin stable. The third possibility is that the market will experience a sideways.

If the mass adoption of a cryptocurrency increases its price, volatility will only increase, but not stabilize. There will always be bad news and rumors, and at high cryptocurrency prices, the amplitude of oscillations will become large. Therefore, the higher the price of cryptocurrency will rise, the greater will be its volatility.

you always need to separate the market into two groups: bitcoin and altcoins. then analyzing it becomes very easy.

the altcoins are created to be pumped and dumped so no amount of adoption is ever going to change that. they are fulfilling their sole purpose and nothing can change that. and unless we see new altcoins be created with a different purpose (like being an actual currency) this situation won't change.

as for bitcoin, one of the reasons for its volatility is that it is still inside the adoption phase so if it reaches the mass adoption then there won't be as much new money coming in so the price can be more stable. additionally one of the reasons for volatility is the small size of the market and that will also grow with adoption so you can expect less wild rides as we move forward.

Mass adoption will increase the demand and it will stabilize the price for bitcoin.

And for the altcoins, they just depend on bitcoin so if bitcoin's price stabilizes, they would do the same.

This is not because the market has too few investors participating in the market. Because this is a market that is not controlled by any individual or organization, its price continuously dumps and bumps every day.

Not quite. The larger the market, the harder it would be to move it. A quick and easy example that goes against your point are small market cap alts -- they're ridiculously volatile even though no one really talks about them. The more established coins, on the other hand, are far less volatile even with far more FUD. This strongly suggests that the larger a coin grows, the less volatile it becomes. We are nowhere near mass adoption, but once that time comes I could easily see Bitcoin prices being more stable than stocks.

I think yes, that's because the adoption is not widespread and it's easy to manipulate the market forming the particular groups of influencers.

Bitcoin needs to become big. Volatility is present in crypto market because it is so small. Just one whale can already change the prices of bitcoin, not to mention altcoins. Stock markets are so huge because market caps are so high. Imagine a whale to raise the price of Tesla stocks just by himself for 5% - impossible...
If mass adoption is the answer? Partially sure. Institutionals are bigger part of the answer.

There is no guarantee that mass adoption will make coin prices stable, but it is more likely to increase prices. I think the stability will occur if in gunanakan as a payment method.

Volatility will remain so long cryptocurrency or bitcoin is decentralized. Is simple, the reason for volatility as far as cryptocurrency is concern is because it is not moderated or controlled. And so any body can order whatever volume or dump too.

This is why some icos try to regulate how much coin you can order for at times but this is just on their individual platform.

DEFINITELY NOT! there will be no steady price of this, it is the people who declare the price which is the best of it.
This is the time that people has the power on everything! therefore there  is no stability as long as there is demand!

that is the first time i have ever heard someone say that about bitcoin!
what makes you think bitcoin is made to be unstable when it clearly is not?

these are not "external factors". it doesn't get any more internal than adoption! it is called "supply and demand" after all. and when the demand grows so much that it stabilizes with a stable supply (as it would be in a couple of years) price would be stable.

no because we have not yet reached mass adoption. not even 1% of it.

Quite the contrary. With the massive use of cryptocurrency and the increase in its price, its level of volatility will only increase. The price of cryptocurrency is very subject to bad and good news. Since its price is completely dependent on supply and demand in the cryptocurrency market, its high volatility will always remain. And especially it will appear at high prices for cryptocurrency, as this will allow a high price amplitude of price fluctuations.

I don't think cryptocurrencies will be on stable because although they have been addopted by mass i don't think stocks market is stable in the price, they always volatility in the price, for example please see the stocks market of comodities sectors they are volatility in the price. And we know that bitcoin will be comodities sectors when it be addopted by mass. So the price of bitcoin will be always volatility in my own analysis.

There are not less peoples engaged into the cryptocurrencies. Stock prices are stable because they do change once the company/Industry has some major ups and downs rather than going for demand and supply.

Crypto markets run on demand and supply factor so they have high viability and changes from 30% to 40% a day. Stock markets are a bit stable and they don't have these huge changes. Mass adoption can stabilize the prices of small volume coin. It is not possible to stabilize the prices of bitcoins or any such major cryptocurrency.

Even with the massive use of cryptocurrency in all countries, its high price volatility will never decrease. As long as the price of cryptocurrency will be based on the relationship between supply and demand, high price volatility of cryptocurrency will always remain. That is, a decentralized cryptocurrency is doomed to always have high price volatility.

You don't compare Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency to stock,  they are two different things even though their model may look a bit similar.
Moreover, it is possible for Bitcoin to stabilize when it hit a particular price and it may not be an influence of mass adoption. Things like regulation can also affect it towards that direction.

Mass adoption will surely stabilize the price of crypto as then it will be used for transactions on different platforms and also for payments of goods and services meaning people all across the globe will have cryptos to do whatever it is they want to do thereby keeping the price stable. Remember one of the reasons why price pumped in 2017 was because lots of investors came into the crypto space and when demand is high, price surely goes up and since demand has gone down for a while price has been down. Well i maybe wrong but thats my opinion.

Mass adoption by whom ?
The government ?
The people ?
Well you know right now the Bitcoin trading is setting an all time high in many places and still the value of Bitcoins is not that good , let's be honest it's worst as compared to the previous records.

Now I think if the government again allowes Bitcoins and integrate them with the society like normal Fiat then it will be much easier for the process to grow in number and reach a stable amount.

It's really hard to predict so as what will change the Bitcoins price and what won't , but Mass adoption will put a social security on the price cap and could really benefit us.

Other than that only good knows where the prices are heading now.

It's a very interesting question.

I personally have always thought that stability is a relational thing. Because people still perceive value in fiat terms at the moment, it is incredibly difficult for bitcoin to gain footing as some form of stable currency, because people aren't using it for actual commercial purposes in the majority of the time.

Of course, this will change in the future, which is I think what you're proposing.

I personally think that increased adoption, especially merchant adoption, will certainly help the value of bitcoin become less volatile. Firstly, the increased market cap means that manipulation of the market becomes tougher to do, especially in the short term. Secondly, if people start pricing goods and services in the future in terms of BTC, these goods and services will essentially lay a "foundation" for the price, making it less prone to fluctuations.

The stocks are independent of one another. All coins follow bitcoin and whales manipulate the price making the market volatile. Better distribution will prevent this so mainstream could help

Basically there're lots of crypto currencies and altcoins are circulating in the market and its a big competition among them. Its very difficult to make a decision which is the best currency to make them beneficial. Initially investors are connected with trade market since when technology doesn't exist so investors have real trust on trade market and now after bitcoin success, crypto trend has been successful. Investors attracted towards crypto and altcoins. There's no comparison between stock market and crypto or altcoin. Investers should make crypto more stronger.

most people choose bitcoin because bitcoin is a strong cryptocurrency so that price increases or decreases will not be too significant. most of them make a bitcon become an investment. maybe with a lot of activities using bitcoin, making the price of bitcoin stable.

Even if there is a mass adoption(possible) but still it remains unstable only it lessen its volatility.
The good thing when there is a huge crypto market adoption, it surely it increases it value since the demand will absolutely increase and with that, there is no worries of losing.

Volatility and decentralization does not have anything in common, look at stock exchanges and forex, they are not decentralized yet you see volatility in the market, as long as there are new investors into any form of investment, the price will be volatile and there is nothing that can be done, the increase in price depends upon the buy and sell order and that determines the market situation.