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Source: https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-whales-have-accumulated-thousands-of-coins-in-the-last-2-months/ Source on bitcoin rich list (https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html)

Top 100 whales have accumulated 151,405 BTC since Dec 17th. 2018. Smaller holders (those who have 100-1000 BTC) seem to have given a large amount of BTC to the larger wallets.

Now I don't know if this is due to people selling on exchanges, or simply leaving their money on exchanges. Though it does seem like it's pretty big news (if true) and whales are simply accumulating during this down time.

I'd like to see what people think about this!

Market manipulation is depends on huge whales so we just hold our crypto is the right choice. But day traders are really happy to see this market because those are buying Bitcoin in this moment, surely it make profit in future and many peoples slowly aware in crypto technology so mass adoption is possible on upcoming years.

Whales are totally hungry for more bitcoin mostly in time when prices dropped while newbies are in panic mode. Noobs complain then sell with anger and very opposite to what other big player does. Relaxing and buying more as chances at this lower price of bitcoin only come rarely now than before. Better market manipulation will soon start and we must keep up to it or we will be left behind empty handed.

I wouldn't even call it news at this point. I mean, the narrative that whales make prices drop to make the weak hands sell only to buy back in again has been widespread for as long as I can remember. The manipulation part doesn't even need to be true; these guys have been amassing coins for a long time and those coins have to come from somewhere.

I guess it is pretty interesting to actually watch it unfold though. We could also take this opportunity to maybe act like baby dolphins lol.

The market gets impacted when such scenario takes place, and the same gets reversal in some time period. No one knows how long will this take place for such a reversal. By that time the market will progress further, upon the same it is better to have patience than ourself reacting to the market helping further manipulate the market as each and every move starting small investor makes a difference.

Why does this come as a surprise to many people? A Bitcoin whale needs to constantly acquire more coins to give them the opportunity to have a bigger impact on the price, when they want to manipulate the price.

I would have thought that they would amass more Fiat currency to trigger a hype cycle for the next Bull run, but they see more value in buying more coins from trigger happy newbies that are panicking with every small dump.

I guess it is better timing, when you buy cheaper at the bottom end of the price cycle.  ::)

I am not surprised to see the whales can accumulate 151,405 BTC because they have large money and in 2017, they can be booked a huge profit from bitcoin only, and it's not from altcoin. Then they wait for the right time to buy as much btc as they can, and it's happening in the last year until now.

Imagine if they have more than $100k in fiat, and since the last year, the price is less than $10k, how much bitcoin they can buy? Besides that, they can also trade the bitcoin to usdt, and I am sure they made another profit which they can use to buy more bitcoin.
So while they have money now, they think that they should buy more bitcoin and if they price can increase in this year, they will make more and more profit.

Many will tell they are not surprised by this move. And they're right.
However, many will be shocked (again) at the middle of the next market cycle how it's possible that some whales can cash in such big amounts of Bitcoin.
Yeah, history is repeating. And repeating. And so on..

Of course whales are accumulating right now!!! It's the mega pump coming. Smaller holders 100 or under can't or dont want to afford holding every single bit so yes they are buying, selling, and transacting with bitcoin right now while the whales just let their trading algos accumulate so they can put up huge buy walls. That's what makes it pump along with the news. If you watch the canyons you will see the HUGE buy orders placed deep in the order book. Wait for the whales to make the sideways cycle accumulation get to a point that everyone is wanting to sell to them cheap. Then we will pump.

It's safe to say that traders/investors have seen their stacks at least double after the 2017 high, and it makes sense. It has been happening for years where after every bull run, the correction is utilized to amass more Bitcoins. Big pockets become even bigger with how they are being fed coins by noobies and get rich quick panic sellers.

The biggest losers so far are the crypto related funds, where most of them had to unload everything and just exit the market entirely.

Pretty much. The rich get richer.

Not surprising for me, have been hearing the same narrative for months now, and I do believe part of it is true (they're buying the dip).

It's simple. They do "afford to lose". They do afford to wait and sell only when they're on profit.
They have people good at trading and even if by tough chance they lose in one place, they cut loses early and they earn from another asset to cover the loses.
It's easy to diversify and do the things right when you're so rich you should simply stay away and do something else (enjoy life on Earth, make a "city break" on Mars, whatever..)

This should have been the normal scenario after 2017 highs and the crash of 2018. Players would be looking into increasing their assets in a considerable amount so as to make the most out of the bear market. At this point in time, many would have already reached the thousand-BTC mark and are now making moves in the market signifying that they are still around and bitcoin is not a dead asset. Whales do need a lot of fiat and bitcoin at hand in order to be a force to be reckoned with, and that's what they're doing right now, filling their pockets while everyone is doubting bitcoin.

Wasnt crypto supposed to turn the tables?

Nah thats not happening because people even though they are optimistic about bitcoin - the real money makers are the ones who already have money in their hands and know where they should put their green tasty fiat into for future moons. They know unlike shitcoiners that bagging bitcoin when prices are low is what is needed to turn the tables and not hodling and shorting when you can even for a 1$ change in price.

They always buy the dip. Problem is rest of small caps traders fail to do so or are not willing to. After a few months though they will be same people complaining that they didnt buy the dip and regret it during uptrend. It sure must suck to be one of them. :P

The impact of the price is not limited to having a lot of currencies, "Big whales" but just getting a lot of trading volume makes you a speculator on prices.
Let's look at what happens when some platforms add or remove new cryptos "like what happens with Binance and Coinbase."
It's almost like being like a bank.
When the bank decides to buy a property or a benefit, all the regions near it are increasing and so on.

Its not surprising they get richer everytime there is a massive dump of coins. They'd be panic buy too when suddenly big finacne firms comes in and become whale because its a threat to thier existence. If lets say those floor traders in FOREX market suddenly starts collecting BTC in crypto market, these we called whales today are going to feel how it is to be a noob.

This is clearly because of the fact that they might see Bitcoin in the next few months or years to be great again. Whales makes the market flow become profitable and alive. Whales might think of the possible huge return when market turns green after a sudden crash. Hodler's and investors arround the world also hoard as their long term investment for future purposes. Good for those who can afford to buy some as they grab the opportunity to buy while Bitcoin is cheaper than the price of the year 2017.

Well it was supposed to level the playing field. That's still true, in a way, because Bitcoin as a system doesn't discriminate against whales or small holders. It allows everyone the same opportunities and freedoms -- you can do everything a rich guy can, but chances are, they can still do it better.

At the end of the day, Bitcoin encourages free market, which people with more resources thrive on. If you try to punish people with more resources than you, then it stops being a free market and the system stops standing for freedom. People may think scenarios like this are unfair, but they can do exactly the same things whales do. It just becomes a question of scale.

We are always telling or saying this word "Buy on the dip" or "Buy when others are fearful" or "Accumulate when theres blood on the streets" and this is what
these whales are doing and it isnt really a surprising thing. They do make money on their own ways since they do have the capability on accumulating large chunks
of coins.When the market tends to reverse then it would be an another easy money for them.

when many traders from forex who switch to cryptocurrency it will increasingly make trading volume increase and the price will also be very expensive, but the most important thing is when that happens and when the price of bitcoin can succeed again like 2017, hopefully the whales can make the bitcoin price back go up.

What I think is that accumulators are the true believers of bitcoin or whatever cryptocurrency.

Now, the point therefore is that, some people have the financial strength to buy or invest in bitcoin but they would not, they would rather prefer to watch other people invest while they keep spreading fud about. So everyone has the privilege to be called a whale  ;D

  Bitcoin market have experienced bearish market for the previous year so the Bitcoin  Whales have accumulated a great amount of digital assets .so the richest Bitcoin holders have been the luckiest to buy and hold as much of bitcoins .the price  fluctuation of bitcoin that is the depreciation of their value has helped to invest most of the people who can afford without much effort .Since Bitcoin whales have accumulated thousands of coins that have resulted a number of exchanges.to come up . Beside these big whales a good portion of the owners are unknown to the public since they keep it as hoarding with them at home ..

I think that this trend was empowered mostly because people started panic selling. These people who held small portions of bitcoin didn't find any interest in continuing to hold their cryptocurrencies because it started losing value. On the other hand, whales find a way and an opportunity to accumulate more coins.

It is not a shock that bitcoin whales have collected bitcoin while it is low. We are still trying to see bitcoin as what it is today and fail to see what it could be in the future. Whales are smart people, they do not invest for today, they invest for the future and that is how they became whales, they have done this with other stuff before and they can see the potential in bitcoin so they are investing for the long term again but on bitcoin instead of a stock this time.

The smaller investor sees bitcoin at 3 thousand or 4 thousand or whatever it is today but whale sees how it could beat 20 thousand dollars one day, maybe soon maybe not but it did that before and it has no block on doing it again one day, they see it as a possible thing and that is why they have collected this much bitcoin while smaller fish try to sell and get out because they are scared bitcoin could go down even more.

After reading what some news about cryptocurrencies a huge number of people begin to discuss it on various resources presenting it as their material.
In recent days, the news of 150 000 bitcoins is noisy in dozens of tapes, YouTube channels and various blogs. It's probably big news, but it is not necessary to inflate a sensation and to trumpet about it to every blogger and forum members. Here's a video where they also talk about whales and 150,000 bitcoins and it's not the only one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlnSfXy8vFM

It doesn't really say much because of the fact that we don't know whether these addresses are owned by exchanges, entities, or individual investors.

But what I have seen over the past few months is that while people have been influenced by the bear market, institutional firms and investors have been actively trying to probe into the market. It's actually quite smart if you consider the fact that they're essentially entering in at the most opportune time, contrary to what the market sentiment is.

This should be an indicator that the smart, institutional money is already coming in and accumulating coins at this stage. While that in itself doesn't necessarily mean that a bull market will emerge, it certainly invalidates what people claim of "bitcoin's death". The fact is that the market is just moving in cycles - and institutional demand is going to be huge in the next bull market.

It is a known fact that whales and the institutional investors where the sellers who sold on high and now they have started to accumulate but same time they are also playing with market like buying in low and selling in high and then buying more with profit in low, so this way they are accumulating the volume of btc with the same investment. This is why they are wise and who ever is selling in panic is the loser.

I totally agree with the title of this topic, what we should make clear is that there is still much more to accumulate, in fact, we know that whales or Strong Hands never buy expensive bitcoin, buy cheap and many people bought Bitcoin in 20k , which, those people do not want to sell their bitcoins in the price that we are now.

The strategy of the whales is that if they do not sell the Bitcoins to these low price ranges, they have the money to shortear
 the bitcoin, until those who have bought at those levels close to 20k for fear of not losing everything, sell, this is a battle that can last Months, years, but we must bear in mind that whales have time and money.

this is very true unfortunately. scheme happened allready after the break out above 4k.

It is whales that are causing the ETF to be rejected and delayed over and over again. Do they not realise that manipulation is the reason why the ETF hasn't happened, and if they allow it to be stable for a bit longer we can finally get it!

Globally whales are the controller of the market and determine price rate per time, Money is a tool of influence, Am surprise thou at the amount invested since December 2018, This is a sign that the future is positive for BTC  as a currency, the bull run is sure to commence.

Yeah, I think it's another problem of Bitcoin to have a centralized supply like that.

Over time it will become better and most coins are also lost in big wallets. So many people mined BTC in the early days but didn't save private key. Only concerning thing is that in the last year more rich holders got richer and poor holders got poorer. Normally it should be other way round over time.  ??? ???

The numbers of the big wallets are too small to make any good conclusions. 
I would rater focus on the wallets adresses with 10- 100 bitcoins  those numbers are up this year, with around 1.200 according to numbers found in that  article.
And even better the number of bitcoins adresses with 1-10 bitcoins are up 4.200 this in this level we know many normal bitcoins owners are to be found. In fact every adresses with less than 100 bitcoins are growing in numbers.
This means that new people are still buying there first bitcoins and setting up wallets to hold them.

Well, you have your point but I think if the whales accumulates more coins for sure they have more power to control the market. Its hard to stop them, hey have more holdings compare to us so technically that’s the move of every whales. Hopefully, they will move as one and bring the market to the peak again.

This whales know to manage their investments and know how to get a big profit from their investment or hodlings. Whales in the market know how to play their big funds in this market so hopefully they not be greedy and help the market to be in good peak again.

To get good return out of the market whales make the market according to their profit expectancy. To this they do some form of trade moves. This makes big impact upon the price of bitcoin downwards most of the time.

Yes whales very smart in controlling crypto as like controlling the bitcoin , whales can down and up the price to earn so much money . The one thing that i know is to always looking the price and analyze the flow because if we like whales we can earn more and we easily get a big profit. Always active and smart as like whales because in this industry we need to be as a whales too.

no mate because as far as i know you  can call  investor as a whales only unless if it can contribute for the progress in the market or let say have a large amount of money which is like big companies that can manipulate the price time on time.  Correct me of im worng.! Lol

 I think whales still hold more than the BTC number 151.405, that number could increase to millions of BTC for a large organization. They often use BTC numbers to manipulate the crypto market and for margin trading.
There are reports that the trading margin has caused the market price to change when many people bet at very high levels and force whales to change the market to get that money.
You can see the risk in the crypto market is huge and the power of the manipulation organization is huge.

This should also show us that the future is bright. These whales know something we don't know (probably) and they are betting on the price of bitcoin going up which means that if whales trust bitcoin why shouldn't we? That is at least the approach I would have, why wouldn't we really invest into something rich people do, isn't that what we have always wanted, to be on the same platform as the wealthy ?

If we are in the same train as the whales that is all we need to level the playing field and considering bitcoin is bitcoin for everyone involved we can mimick the moves of a whale and profit the way he does. When an oil company pays the president to deregulate the oil companies so they could profit more we miss out on that chance but when rich people pay the president to deregulate bitcoin users so they can profit from bitcoin, we can take advantage of that as well.

That should tell us something, the whales the ones that stand to lose the most if bitcoin fails are not even selling their coins they are getting even more, if people despite their limited resources tried to imitate the movements of the whales then they could easily make money, this is not the moment to sell our coins this is the moment to hold them and if you can afford them to buy even more since the next bull market will probably be even larger than the last one.

The whales have always been the big players in the cryptocurrency industry and they own huge number of bitcoin mist especially during deep, they usually manipulate the market to they advantage while others will be busy selling they bitcoin the whales will be busy stocking them. So I don't daught it if you see huge number of bitcoin being own by whales.

Large scale accumulation by the whales in the market has kept the market stagger within limits not showing any good signs of forward growth. Sudden release of huge funds to the market lead to a drastic change in the market capital and the same got reflected over the price of bitcoin. Once again the accumulation has begun, which has made price to be stable without big pumps and dumps.

The more reason to not give in to FUD and panic sell. If these whales are stockpiling bitcoins, it follows that they believe the price will recover.

Actually no, they will see to that and you wouldn't want to be one of their useful idiots. They are just biding time. Maybe they are waiting for the halving on 2020? Who knows? Just stay put.

This is correct, it also has a very deep understanding of the market, those who want bull run to happen, it is very difficult, because due to these latest bitcoin movements, it has left a mark on the volume that operations have made.The best thing to do now is wait, not all the time is good to enter the market.

The 151,405 BTC could well be Bitcoin on an exchange cold storage.

If you call those holding as much as 1000 BTC small holders, what then do you call those who hold less than a Bitcoin? Dust holders

This only means that the whales are still alive and taking advantage of the market, the people in the middle of the food chain is giving their BTC on a discount for this hodlers which is obviously accumulating for the next bull run. There is really no other reason for that as 151,000+ BTC is no joke to be accumulated right now, yes it's nowhere near a million BTC but with the prices we have right now it's pretty big for someone accumulating. This might be a sign that they are preparing for something big.

It is not a big surprise to hear these kind of news as it is the best time to invest when the market is really low and wait for the market to recover and then book their profits rather than entering when the price starts to recover and that is how people make money from this market and not the other way around, entering at the last moment and then missing the point of exit and missing the entire run and then crying that they got played and so on. :P

151,000 BTC by a 3500 USD bitcoin price is around 529 million USD.Divide that by 100 and it's 5,2 million USD gain for the average crypto whale.It's not that much.Anyway,it's normal tha the global amount of btc is concentrating into the hands of the rich "whale" elite.That's how capitalism works...

This whales are being proactive, and that's why they make the most profits when there is a boom in the price of the bitcoin.
They are always willing to buy more bitcoins and those with lesser amounts are readily available to sell to them.
For as long as I can remember they've continually manipulated prices and uses the opportunity to stuck up their wallets with bitcoins.
You and I can also hold on to what we have(bitcoins) and gradually increase our portfolios

This is a thought and we need to understand it so we can learn from the pope. The Pope is still waiting for us to get it so that we can give a high value and then take the opportunity to throw it away. The game will continue so that the true holder will be bored, who will eventually hold on to it.

The people are living with the hope of being a millionaire in future so trusting the new technology and holding it as much as they can. ;D

I think there is a big chance that the bull run is coming. If whales could afford to invest such a large amount of cash to their cryptocurrency wallet, then for sure they can afford data and technical analyst to analyze when will be the next bull run come. Some whales also try to manipulate the price of the bitcoin that is why they are trying to hold a lot of assets together. But I think it will work soon. Let us see and wait for it.

I think the same news was observed with the likes of Ripple and Ethereum... I actually didn't expect the same for Bitcoin.

1. I've personally come into contact with long-term Bitcoiners who gave up even as early as 2017 end, or right after the ATH. I'd assumed these released coins were snapped up by smaller guys or late entrants like me.
2. We've seen people cash out at 10k and above. I didn't think whales bought them up.
3. More new entrants to the 21 million club.

And they will continue to accumulate as many coins as they can and as many bitcoins as they can afford to buy, this is the time to do it, we are in the phase where that is what we are looking for, especially investors, since they can wait as long as necessary until the Bitcoin takes its upward trend and many will become millionaires just to wait and hold. :)

Still a hodler mate, no matter what they are saying as long as you hold bitcoin you will still be blessed. Those who hold much of bitcoin are really confident about the market, and maybe preparing for another peak so we as dust hodler or whatever it is, we should also start to accumulate bitcoin so we can also enjoy the possible up trend in the coming months, that’s the best thing that we can do as a hodler.

I think they can still hold as much bitcoin as they buy because they know that there will be a bitcoin halving day that will happen and from some experiences when halving day the price of bitcoin will be more expensive.

that is also what im thinking about  but only if the rumors were true  .


no i dont think that whales will hire an analyst . whales are knowdgeable and with the huge amount that they invest , they can easily predict the flow of the price pretty  easy .


yes that what whales are for . they only manipulate the entire crypto market so that they can earn a profit .  based on what you wrote i think you are happy an excited for that event ? you should rather feel worried because that event can cause another big dump again  ( lets hope not )

Correct, many people tend to sell their bitcoin right now. They don't realize that actually bitcoin price is tend to rise. Those whales are smart people thats why most of them can become whales. New people who only care about profit don't know that market is still played by whales due to the low liquidity of bitcoin.

I know that whales are the ones that control the market and determine the price always.
They have been known to be very smart and they know the market so well and it is an indication that there is great hope for bitcoin in the future.

This is nothing to panic about, whales will always manipulate the market but it will always be to the favors of bitcoin.

That's how the market works, as the great investor Warren Buffet says, "Be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy when others are fearful". Institutional investors and big whales are always ready to grab the opportunities. When newbies and other investors sell their investment under the panic situation, big whales and institutional investors buy it on lower levels so that they can hold it until the next price rally. While investing, going against the flow might be a challenge for newbies but that's the secret sauce of big whales.

Undoubtedly, Warren Buffet is a genius, it is a remarkable phase of the market in general, what we are going through, very few will trust to buy and maintain, some if, and at a time not yet determined, when the bitcoin reaches the bullish phase, many new millionaires will emerge.

Well, it's a crystal clear demonstration of a more general phenomenon. The rich are getting richer, while the masses lose out on these opportunities.
If you were willing to buy bitcoin at 19k you would be more than willing to snatch some up at 3.8k, yet that's not really what's happening. This exposes the paradoxicality of dumb money when it comes to market cycles.

The whales always have a good chance to be able to collect bitcoin, as a beginner and still a little capital can only hold it back. We really have to be able to learn like that to take advantage of the fear of investors to collect bitcoin. So use it as motivation if this bitcoin whale is able to collect thousands of coins in 2 months, learning from whales will be better.

Obviously, those who are capable of accumulating with large investment, are utilizing and manipulating the market when the time comes. But, the market would demand more supply back again. It would be good if the whales start letting out the coins in the market supporting the coins value raise again. At last, they are among the ones who decide the price at last.

Sometimes I would like to be angry with bitcoin whales because they are so greedy and do not provide opportunities for bitcoin owners with little capital. However, with the bitcoin collection they do, I think bull runs will come soon because surely they want to get a bigger profit than they have done so far.

I'm confused as to how whales are stopping people with smaller capital to seize the current opportunities? I also feel like it's not their responsibility to 'provide' a certain opportunity in the first place but rather, your own responsibility. At the end of the day, it's a free market. That's why I don't understand why you are angry with them. Wouldn't you want to increase your investment in something you feel like is severely undervalued?

Maybe that's a sign that bitcoin is going to take a new bull run ant the price is going to break a new record of all times. Weak ones are leaving the market by selling their coins, smart ones collecting it.

They can do it any time they want, but we should not be intimidated and stay focus on what we have. One day we will achieve our goals in life. Yes, we should also learn from them and riding with them is the key for us to generate profit also. This market is for everyone, we can still affect the market.  :)

That sounds like whales are hoping lots of BTC and eventually hoarding it. Though it is not directly related to being a manipulative act by these whales but it seems like it. They hold many BTC than the other people and when the price goes high, they are the ones to bring it down by selling all their holdings.

It seems that the pope did collect coins by utilizing the panic of the beginners, making it very easy to hoard them.
With the red market situation, the opportunity must be used as well as possible.

You are absolutely right, this panic only serves for the unwary to sell and those who understand the market buy, because it is the best opportunity to buy cheap. At any moment a small bull can arrive, to continue buying.

How I wish I do have huge funds to also buy bitcoin at this particular time.  It is a wise investments decision to buy bitcoin when the whales are buying and be able to sell when others are selling.  This is really a sign that bitcoin is going to recover in future.

Well, I really do not know why people cannot be smart enough to know when to buy coin and buy enough bitcoins and then they blame whale who are quiet to familiar with the market.

The best time to buy enough bitcoin is now and that is why it seems like whale are hurdling the coins. If everyone truly foresees what bitcoin has to offer in the nearest future, they would do the same thing as the whales and buy as much Bitcoins possible now that the market is down.

The whales offer liquidity in a market that without them will soon collapse, so they are important for the market, however those that are selling are not really looking into the future, they are only looking at the losses they got and they think they cannot take it anymore instead of thinking of all the benefits that holding bitcoin will bring them, if you take the time to look at it you will see that all the people that are still holding their coins from before September of 2017 still got profits and in a few years even those that bought at the all time high will be in profits as well.

They could but unfortunately, they can't since their money is not like to those whales. Those who own 100 - 1000 BTC were the real whales since they've entered the market no one of us newcomer here could make a change of the market. We were just following their lead wherever they want the market to go. But in the long run, if we do accumulate and perfect the trading strategy we could make a lot of fortune.

Moving with Whales will definitely gives you a good chance to earned more, it's a good catch when they are still in accumulating stage and riding with them gives you a great chance to earned from any strategy that you will follow, whale can go short or long depends from the value they are aiming and the profits that they've expecting.

Following the BTC whales give you a big advantage over other market participants. Big investment organizations decide to open or close trading positions with powerful fundamental and technical analyse. if we consider the market movements with following these whales parallelly then it is possible to take nice amounts from the market.

Yes, and in other breaking news: the lightning network will be ready in just 18 months.

If only the people doing panic selling could hodl to their coins then the bitcoin space will keep expounding rather than just a whale dominated business. It won't spread the awareness faster.
People need to hodl longer for the price to appreciate because in economic terms, if a commodity or product is scarce, the price will increase just the reason that few people are ready to sell and at there own price.

Except you have made some gains and you want to off load, otherwise hodl and sell in profit.

You know quite well that you don't need huge funds before you can start purchasing Bitcoin, right? Now that the price is cheap,  this is the opportunity to seize the opportunity to buy the little that you can afford and it will surely make a huge difference in the future when the price increases.

Even the price is in pump state or no matter what the prices are , we can still buy bitcoins and other cryptos in a small portion . that is a uniqe feature of crypto because they can be divided and user are not always forced to buy then in a whole  .  whales on the other hand are powerful and they dont mind buying cryptos in a whole , they even buy numerous number of whole cryptos because they want to manipulate the entire market easily.

some of them must sell to reduce prices, after that buy them again in small quantities, so that the increase that occurs is not significant. it will benefit them greatly.

this is a big business game. they always make things worse and result in a fall in the value of bitcoin, and if the value falls then large investors will quickly buy large amounts of bitcoin. it has been proven that there are always traders who are profitable if there is a price fall. so we can make the right predictions if the price has begun to be unstable.

Even the price increase slightly, bitcoin price still cheap compare with peak price. Whales must be seen this opportunity and buying bitcoin below $4000 is good oppotunity and when bitcoin traded in nasdaq or BAKKT, whales gain big profits

This situation is still possible if the pope will collect bitcoin again, the value is still under $ 4000 so there is a good opportunity to collect, but many also maintain it. This game is still running and the market is giving a green signal so it has the opportunity to improve.

We cannot wish for the impossible, the market will be better if the panic sellers were capable of holding their coins but since that will never happen the next question is what we can do to improve our situation in the market? And the easiest thing to do is to follow the lead of the whales, they are buying all the coins they can since they know the market will recover and if you do the same then in just a few years your profits will be many times higher than if you just held your coins and did not bought any.

of course we can see the changes in the market that are happening now, where hope is coming back, and now is a good time to collect bitcoin, I guess without waiting long we will get a profit

You are looking at it from the wrong perspective. They sell because they want to encash that money in fiat. People need to do that to make up the losses they had or to pay back those who they took loans for. There are people who are in debts for trading and trying to make ends meet by such methods. Whales are also often running out of liquid cash and need to resort to such measures, specially the individual whales - but again they do on a large scale and its mostly a white-collar system.

These movements are basic in any speculative market without which trading would become stagnant.

I don't think that it is new specially in trading ,
Whale's always get more because they have strong hands and they could just buy more since they already have so much money.

Whales are accumulating because they know the halving is coming. They are professional bitcoiners who have been here from previous halvings when the pump boosts bitcoin prices 100x over

The whales already have more experience and that will make them more observant with the current situation. We can see and study the movement of the whale so that later we can make our own methods well.

And these are people who seriously practice the buy low sell high policy and looking at the market's state since 2018, i think they won't miss taking advantage of people's panic and despair in this bear trend. Must've felt good to be one of these whales, especially a year or two from now.

Whales already control the market. they buy at low price, they sell at high price. Sometimes they can sell at a loss. When the prices are lower, they buy again. We, the small investors... are their victims. im looking this article, and It says whales  in the last two months they collected bitcoin. In this case, the price will down or will rise, I have no idea!

Whales do really know on what they are doing which a typical move for them on accumulating coins when there are bloods on the streets came from sudden panic selling on the entire market.
And this is where they do make money out of peoples fears and doubts! When the market tends to reverse again then those kind of risk taking moves can generate more profits into their side.

The good thing is that you do not need to be a whale to take advantage of their tactics, obviously if I had a lot of money the profits that I could generate in a few years will be great but even if that is not the case buying now and holding your bitcoin and other worthy coins is not a bad deal, the only thing you need to do is to buy them and then hold for a few years and then you can enjoy fantastic profits, that seems like a good deal to me especially if we consider that there is almost no effort involved.

really if you want to get a big profit later then from now on our chance to buy bitcoin because the price is still cheap. and now also bitcoin has pumped up the price again

Look mate, you can never predict where the whales are going to dump or pump. You have to follow the trend that gets set and not set a trend yourself. It would be foolish to set a trend yourself because you would burn out of cash. Even whales do that in coordinated waves and not one at a time. What you can do is follow your exchange assuming it has decent market volume and liquidity and then continue to buy when its dipping.

Do not panic about when to sell or buy because that time will come and it will come at a time you wont expect it to come. You can hope to become rich in a day here. Its takes months and years to be an expert. ;)

they are market controllers and they can capture the future of the crypto market. They found that BTC's prices were now too cheap and they had to collect them to create big events in the future.
I also believe that BTC prices will not stop at 4 numbers. It will soon grow again and increase its value to over $ 15,000 in the next 3 years.

Yes, the whales have really proven to be very experienced in this field of cryptocurrency and they are known for taking advantage of the market. The focal point now is to know their aim and we also know the right direction to go. I feel they are trying to accumulate as much as they can hereby manipulating the price of the market.

I believe some investors hearing this news would be tempted to sell while some others would be tempted to hold. The wise will know what is right

maybe this is just a way to boost prices that have fallen too much. if there is an activity of selling and buying on a large scale automatically the price will also go up. or maybe there is a big scenario of a trade to be able to get a big profit later on. everything is all possible, we as small traders must follow the flow where he runs then we must follow it so we can avoid big losses.

right, number 4 is just a beginning, and signals that bitcoin is fighting. I will wait for the BTC to hit 6, because we know there is a resistance area there, so that it can be predicted that the positive trend will continue

The BTC value can still increase and this will be the beginning of an increase, positive news can continue so that crypto has a better value.
Thinking positively about crypto will bring us to better development.

It's all clear whales buy crypto from people who can not wait any longer and sell crypto on the cheap. After that there will be a takeoff.

The reason for that whales wait for the market to fall is that they can buy huge quantity at lower rates and this boost up the market and due to heavy demand market picks up and rates start shooting up. This policy is the best to buy in bear market and make money in bull time.

Smart investor must be buying a lot coin when the price at level $3500. Big investor sees the potential of bitcoin in the future as digital asset and as store of value, thats why whales accumulating bitcoin in bear market

Of course it will increase but that is not the point of discussion here. Please read the topic before posting a generic reply like this. :D

There may not be a takeoff if there is dumping going on. Since the bear market ran for the longest time in history people who dont have a real belief in bitcoin and its future are just fingering the trigger of sell buttons for a quick squeeze out of this game. They dont care about the future price, they are like "just give me back my money I am done with it." Thing is these bears will make the market pretty resistant when it comes down to the takeoff that you talk about.