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Last year, Plattsburgh has become the first city in the US to ban cryptocurrency mining,


https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/16/17128678/plattsburgh-new-york-ban-cryptocurrency-mining

However, the city council voted 5-1, lifting the ban.


https://www.btcwires.com/c-buzz/good-news-entrepreneurs-plattsburgh-finally-lifts-its-ban-on-crypto-mining/

So let's see if this will bring a influx on miners on that city, do you think miners will take advantage of this situation and go full mining on that city again?

USA is a strange country. Not only each state can have its own laws, even a city can ban things that are legal in all other cities.
Finally they realized how stupit that ban was. I don't think many people will start mining now just because of this ban lift. It's barely profitable at the moment so I wouldn't start now, except if I had cheap electricity - for example from my own solar panels.

"Influx"... Might happen if the electricity on Pittsburgh is worth using for mining purposes... But not in an "Influx"  way. Little by little maybe. It's also a positive or good news. Big impact, as New York is model of tough crypto regulation as they say. More or less let's see what comes next.

Un-ban mining does not mean that mining will be allowed and Miners from all over the world will come for mining in that city.
It means that mining is allowed in that city, but unless there are more advantages, the news will not make any difference.
In general, the news is good but we will not see any effect.
Will the old miners return? No, I do not think so, especially with low mining profits.

As far as I know, it's no longer profitable to mine bitcoin at this point, I mean the return of profit (ROI) is not that good when the price of bitcoin is $6000-$6500 so I'm sure miner will take this in consideration whether to continue or not in that area.

Overall, this is a welcoming news but its going to be difficult to assess the impact on the price, if ever there is one. So probably just a couple of 'resident miners', but if there's a huge influx? I doubt it will happen.

The potential profit is definitely a lot lower, but bitcoin mining is definitely still profitable for some. If it wasn't profitable for every single one, then no one would be mining. Probably 99% or a huge percentage of miners are mining solely due to monetary purposes. I'm pretty sure only a very small number of people would be willing to mine bitcoin at a loss just to help the network.

I'm not expecting there to be a sudden influx of miners though. It's New York State after all. I don't live in the US but as far as I know it's a close second to Hawaii in electricity cost. Anyone trying to building a mine would probably go to other states with cheaper electricity, like Idaho.

I would say that also. Mining is not profitable especially if your energy consumption would turn out to be pretty expensive. But on a positive note, at least miners will not be worried once good mining opportunity comes. They can start mining again without worrying that they violating the laws.

'cause they know that cryptocurrency might destroy their country someday. As the cryptocurrency's development growth increases, the growth affects the their national economy so they implemented IRS to identify the information/transaction in crypto. They also want the financial instruments like mining devices to be a regulatory device/apparatus. Their country don't want anonymity, and it causes problem to their goverment.

it was never a ban, just a temporary moratorium. like other cities and utility districts, they had to figure out a plan before getting overrun with mining demand that might create infrastructural or nuisance concerns etc:


i wonder how expensive it'll be to comply with the new regulations. that'll affect whether we see an influx of miners there or not.

This is certainly good news. There are chances that people in that place would consider mining. Although it's not that profitable today compared to the years that had come, once the price has increased again, I'm sure miners would increase to compete too.

both these articles seem more like nonsense to me, as i said back in the time of the first one the cost of mining in that city is still high enough to not-incentivize people to want to go near mining. and if someone wanted to do it, they would have done it. it is not like you could find out if some citizen is hobby-mining at home with his GPU or one ASIC.

maybe you're looking at new york state averages? plattsburgh has some of the cheapest electricity rates in the united states (https://www.electricitylocal.com/states/new-york/plattsburgh/). it's right near a major hydropower dam. the average rate is 4.36¢/kWh and it's probably even cheaper for businesses.

That's great. I think finally most countries are coming to the realization and seeing the immense contribution of cryptocurrencies to their financial industries. Cryptocurrencies make transactions very fast and also safe.

that's a great news for this morning! it was a long year of ban for BTC lovers of Plattsburgh!

Isn't electricity expensive there? I don't see a reason why anyone would want to take advantage anyway. In my experience even mining with free electricity doesn't beat the ROI of simply buying crypto.

USA in general is not the best country to start a crypto mining business so I don't think this news will affect the crypto market very much,especially because we are talking about only one country here and its not one of the biggest existing in USA. There are probably going to be a few miners who will start mining again there but their work would be unnoticeable on the crypto market.

It's all sweet and everything but:
1. Isn't US generally a not very suitable country for mining because of the rent costs and electricity costs?
2. People could still mine all over the US apart from this town, no? So why would they move from a more stable normal US where mining is okay into a place that only recently lifted the ban (and, who knows, might impose it again).
3. Plattsburgh is a town with population being a bit less that 20k people! It's a teeny-tiny town in contemporary world, so chances are they don't even have people who are interested in mining.
But hey, it's a small victory but still a victory for crypto enthusiasts, so thanks for sharing.

Well it is a good thing Plattsburgh finally realized putting a ban on crypto mining in the city is not a good idea and has done the right thing lifting the ban they placed initially. I believe other places where bitcoin faces one or two bans will get to see bitcoin is the future and lift all bans. Lets watch events unfold as more bans are being lifted.

It's not that. Plattsburgh needs a stop because miners are taking too much of their electricity allocated for the city. That's why they need to put a stop for one year and probably make some concessions. So when everything is set, they allowed mining again.

But everyone wanted to mine including some folks in the USA. Every miner is important, so definitely there can be an effect in the market in the long run.

Sort of a good news. I hope others countries that lay ban on crypto usage or transaction will think twice and do the same as Plattsburgh.

If somebody is trying to protect the health of the citizens by banning bitcoin mining he must be insane and lack basic understanding of mining. How does your computer influence the health of your neighbor? How about 10 computers running at the same time? Maybe 100 will change something? It's not 100 microwave ovens or nuclear reactors it's 100 computers. A bitcoin miner works like a computer!

There's still a lot of misconceptions around bitcoin mining so maybe the one that said that doesn't understand if there is really bad effect to the health of their citizens. But we all know that it no effect at all. This is just one attack on bitcoin but I'm sure everyone who has a common sense will not believed that shit.

Lifting a ban is not enough to bring the miners back into the game, it is barely making money in the USA unless you mine one of the altcoins instead. Good news for future miners though

Last time we see an absolutely stupid and destructive green trend to blame everything that it spoils the environment. Like if mining requires much energy then producing this energy will make XX amount of harm to our nature.
It is very popular among US politicians when they are trying to get votes out of nothing.

Very true, the only way miners cab be attracted is if it'll be profitable for them to mine bitcoins, lifting the ban is just the first step, the price of the bitcoin is the other factor that can bring back the miners to mine again. And with this current bearish market and the cost of mining in the US, I doubt many will fancy their chances

Lifting of the bans weren't making a big change over the mining. This can be a good news for miners who have shut down their mining rigs. At present as the market isn't that progressive it isn't possible to make a big earning out of mining. Maybe in the coming days this news will help as market has begun to recover slowly.