Bitcoin Forum

Bitcoin Bulls:
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Jack Dorsey
Elon Musk
Steve Wozniak
Bill Miller
Peter Thiel
Abigail Johnson


Bitcoin Bears:
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Jamie Dimon
Warren Buffett
Ben Bernanke
Larry Fink
Nouriel Roubini
Joseph Stiglitz


What side are you on?


Twitter | https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/1101104336615194625

The funny thing is, the bears are usually nocoiners. They dont believe the tech, they only want more fiat money.

Its rare to find a bear who believes in bitcoin and is shorting just to buy more bitcoin later. And these are, usually, temporary bears.

The people in your list aren't bitcoin "bears".They are anti-bitcoin haters.
A bitcoin bear,is a trader that expects that the bitcoin price will go down,so he sells now and buys later at a cheaper price,which means he gets profits.The people in your list are saying that bitcoin is bullshit and will die sooner or later.

It's not really rare, but just not something that people like to brag about. People with money prefer to not talk about their holdings and profits, while those who have the least constantly pop up everywhere on social media saying how proud they are 10x'ing their money with whatever shitcoin.

People thought Bitcoin would be different in terms of wealth distribution, but it will be worse than the current fiat wealth distrubition, and perhaps that's a good thing. If you don't appreciate Bitcoin for what it is, then you're better off panic selling into stronger hand's buy orders. I couldn't care less about these people.

I will stay on the side of bitcoin!
No matter what they say, i know their purpose and its for the benefit of their own money. I know bitcoin will grow without their opinion so I have to focus on that. Who wants bear market here? Of course none but its too impossible no to enter on that trend.

Side of the bulls, but not much into the side of pure speculation and treating bitcoin as a work of God and a religion. I treat bitcoin more of a tool and less of an investment, though let's be honest we are benefiting a lot from speculating on bitcoin. My take: bitcoin will always have its highs and lows, and it's just on a timely manner. Even other markets are experiencing such volatility as seen on their historical graphs. People just have to be smart on where to put their money on a given time period.

Of course most of the members here are bitcoin maximalist so obviously they're going on the bulls side.

But as someone pointed out, those bears are really a bitcoin hater, a no-coiner, who really doesn't understand what's bitcoin is all about because they consider it as a competition, specially some of them are bankers.

Anyways, there should be no argument here, bears will be bears, but they know how to take advantage of every situations and then on the other side, perma-bulls, no matter what the price of bitcoin, they will continue to predict that the price will go and recover and hit another all-time-highs.

It has to be the bull beacuse in the he bear market already have done investment and bought the coins at cheap rates . So one will expect the market to rise at a point of time and not other wise . This would be the case with many people .

I'm on the side of truth, and truth is that we are getting this Bitcoin thing go mainstream at the speed of light, where big brands are adjoining their names with Bitcoin and blockchain technology, where ETF is on the table and is sure to get accepted, where we have Bakkt launch still pending while these institutions are accumulating as much BTC as they can when they can - at these cheap rates. This accumulation is not for the dump, but a super bull run which will take BTC to the next level in terms of value. Those who don't know what is Bitcoin or blockchain, thanks to Samsung due to whom they will learn more about investing in the future of technology through its upcoming Samsung Galaxy S10.

I am on the side of bull and I think you should have included McAfee on the list of those that are in favour of bullish trend.  He has been positive about the general behavior of the cryptocurrencies market and bitcoin in particular.

The most consistent characteristic of the most vocal detractors is that they don't appear to have taken the time to understand it properly.

Look at the torrent of diarrhoea Roubini comes out with. Most of it could be debunked with 10 seconds of googling.

I find plenty of bulls pretty boring and blinkered too but at least they don't will themselves into remaining ignorant.

We all know Bitcoin has ups and down and it is good in the market to have ups and downs so that people can decide to whether to back out or not and not just a continuous rising prices which will tend to gone in no time. But probably I would choose the bulls side because they were the ones that think that Bitcoin would have potential despite this bearish trend.

Bitcoin has its ups and down, but longer term, there is only one side. History is being made with every transaction thats written to an immutable ledger. Question is: will you be on the right side of history

I think we've reached bottom already.
I'm a holder and I'm not worried about Bitcoin's price in the long run.
But with -80/90% since ATH, it has given more than enough time for people to buy and accumulate. Now it's time to reassure investors and time for the price to go up.
No more bumps, a straight rise !

I go with the bullish people who are really positive about the technology. Very few have this mind while the majority find it difficult to understand. Those who are in the bearish trend supporting is good to fiat holders, particularly they are non crypto holders. Once if they keep hold and get back profit, they might also come with the bullish community.

Yep, the people who can see the forest of tomorrow from the trees or shrubs today...

Just sitting in the opposite side of the greatest master Roger Ver...

Definitely. Using paper money controlled by banks in this century is just shameful...

Disregarding the lineups above.....

Side? Bull or Bear gives us advantages.

No way I will just be on the same side as I can switch gears whatever the trend.

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Pointing to the list of names aboves, those names under Bitcoin Bear also have BTC in hand. :) Proof? I don't have so don't asked me for that. :)

Will not choose either sides because of the names involved as I see no sense of choosing just because of that reason.

Anyone who understands how bitcoin works and does not run a business to which bitcoin is a threat will always be bullish,the converse is also true.We should add Charlie Lee, Michael Novogratz, Erik Voorhees to the bullish column.I am for the bulls

I think many of us are on the side of the bulls, but I am a market speculator, and you should always go in the trend line that has less resistance, therefore a good bull, makes the market move with great optimism in people , and those people want to continue buying, just as we are in this phase, where you buy to accumulate as much Bitcoin as possible.

Of course  bulls even though it's not necessarily to vote . because indeed market already showed a specific sign wherein the next direction  of the growth rate.  Yes you will wondering why because of the situation right now. but this is normal scenario actually and this sign is always happened even before. wherein after the progressing it will make a correction (such dump on price) before continuing to surge.

I will always go wit the bulls because I'm always bullish.
I am more focus on long term investment and that should make me bullish, it doesn't matter what happen to the market, I know it will recover.
It's still early and the price is really cheap now but eventually we will see some significant improvement as the market progresses.

I will be on the neutral side because with the stay in the middle of them, and I can follow where the price moves so I can take the benefits for me ;D

We will see each of them will spread much news related to the bulls and the bear, but they will realize that the market will determine where the price will moves. Let them fight each other by spreading the news, and we don't have to be panic if someone releases the bad news because it's not really happening until we see by ourselves in the market.

I'm also in your side, motivated people will always think that there will be a coming bullish trend on the crypto market. Of course, those whales or strong hands will keep throwing negatively side on Bitcoin to catch the attention of weak hand holders. More weak holders do panic it make more laugh on the whales. So, in my own, I don't mind who against on Bitcoin let's do focus our selves and believed what bitcoin it is.

The real crypto enthusiast will always choose the bull run side and I belong into them. As I noticed in what OP post about bitcoin believer they are all speculator and since last year they speculate the market but no one gets it right speculation. So, here they are now again speculating and those against bitcoin sides are I think they are suck puppet of whales who always discourage people or just manipulating the market.

If you are here with the hope of bitcoin to be a better curreny in the future then you need to be on the bull side.There are lot of unknown people in crypto called whales keeping the market bump and dump and making it benefitable for them purpose so these names maybe whales who uses their words for manipulation so don't just hear anyone;s word it will not do good things for you.

I think that all bears are eventually bullish on Bitcoin. If they are trading on a futures exchange like Bitmex. When they short Bitcoin, their profits are paid out in BTC not USD.

So what would be the point in crashing BTC down to $0 and then having a large number of BTC which is useless. Most of the bears shorted BTC because its not organic growth to go from $1000 to $20000 or an even better example is ETH which went from like $7 to $1400 in a little over a year. A pullback was going to happen regardless.

first of all the people you named are neither bulls nor bears. most of them are idiots and assholes on the internet trying to achieve their own goals by using bitcoin and its name. for example McAfee is just making money from the publicity he gains, Dimon is advertising his bank and their centralized shitcoin,...

secondly it is idiotic to be in one group and stick to it! the market doesn't stick to one trend forever. it changes trends, sometimes it is bull market (like 2017) sometimes it is bear market (like 2018) and sometimes it is in between whiled switches from bear to bull (like 2019 -current) and you need to change with it or be left behind.

Bears. I love crypto, I love Bitcoin. I have a very small amount, I keep as much as I can so I guess I'm a holder. But I really am not comfortable to see that all the pro crypto voices are such terrible people (mostly), or at least the worst ones are the ones covered by the media.

I want the bear market to last for years so I can continue growing and when ATH comes again in a few years, I'll be fine.

Wishful thinking I know.

I'm definitely in the long term bull camp myself.


If no one else, Jack Dorsey is definitely a bull. He's on the record as believing Bitcoin will be "the internet's native currency." He's the founder/CEO of Square, which was already a booming peer-to-peer cash app when it added the ability to buy BTC. It's pretty much the easiest and most accessible way for retail investors in the US to buy BTC now.

generally speaking i tend to look at bitcoin in long term while zooming out of the charts and looking at the bigger picture so i am always a bull because no matter what happens in the short term, price is going to rise up without exceptions. and that will continue until mass adoption is reached which warrants a price above $1 million at the very least.

In short you want the price to go stable ? Well good for you because you are already happy and contented on what you are feeling with bitcoin   .

@op Both have pro's and con's  .  i love the bear because i can buy coins at a bargain cost but i do also love the bull because my assets will be useless if i cannot sell them at a higher price .  thats it i go for both sides  ;)

Jamie Dimon regret that bitcoin is a fraud and launched his JPM coin right? so I think he should belong to the bulls side. I'll go with the bullish to be honest, I want to see the technology be recognize all over the world and see it's value rise.

Looking at the positive side which can be seen on both ends, be it bears or bulls. But I'd love to stick with those people who have been telling positive things about bitcoin and those negatives will always exist regardless of what they are fighting for.

For me i will choose bulls even though previously the price fluctuate again . Because to be honest i don't want become or to join as a Fud's on this situation.  Lol all i want is a another bump of price and stable growth rate and probably it will happen now after this correction. because it's very unfair if this market will always follow the bearish after small pump.

that was somewhat my point. most of these people are advertising their own business whether they are for bitcoin or against it. so when that CEO is hyping bitcoin up, he is in fact advertising his own business so that he can earn more.
I have to also mention that in some rare cases this is not a bad thing. some people both believe in bitcoin and have a business. I am not familiar with Square CEO that you mentioned, so maybe he is of this later group.

well at least you are honest about it! most people that you see these days are pushing for bear market with all kinds of trickery and FUD while hiding their true intentions of wanting to buy more bitcoin because they don't really believe in bear market themselves.

We can discuss or argue who is bull and who is bear on that list, but it is hard fact that some of them support cryptocurrency and give some contribution in terms of promotion and adaptation, and others are completely negative towards bitcoin or cryptocurrency in general. I'm surprised to not see one of the biggest supporter of crypto on bull list, Tim Draper is certainly one who deserves to be there, but not according to opinion of Mr. Barry.

I am of course on the side of those who think positively and doing good things for crypto community. Though some say that they do it from their personal interests, and this can be true - but it is not secret that this world turns around money&profit.

I find one interesting reply on tweet from OP :


https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/1101104336615194625

Of course I want bitcoin bull or the bull run. I will support to the people who are believe that there still bull run happen this year even this month of  March will not start still maybe in the next few months we will fell that and I hope that really happen. I will wait for the bull run and I hope bear market will stop and done so we can see the market see green again and not to lose more anymore of our money.

All the crypto lovers or investors would only want it to be bull market in coming time and not the bear market. 2018 we had enough of the down market due to which people had lost millions of dollars overall as many had to sell in panic mode.

It is not a surprise that I haven't decided yet because we are in neither of those things just yet, yes it looks like bitcoin has a lot of great things going for it but when are we going to learn that just because there are technological great things ahead of us will mean nothing compared to bad news.

You can have halving which is awesome and should increase the price of bitcoin but also one bad thing like craig wright selling thousands of bitcoin could demolish any positive halving could bring.

Look at couple months ago when cost of bitcoin mining was about 5 thousand dollars or so, it was the backbone of why we believed price wouldn't fall, as soon as he sold thousands of coins many miners closed their machines and difficulty dropped and we had bitcoin at a lower price with lower cost. Yes bitcoin could go up and everything looks to back that up but it all depends on one big bad thing and all can go to waste.

Investors choose Bear market and then they become Holders.
Holders choose Bull market to sell their assets for profit.

Anti bitcoin people cannot be consider as Bitcoin Bearish right?They shouldn’t be on the list because they dont even belong here so who will support them?the FUD creators?or those anti bitcoin here but still staying inside the cryptospace?

Well obviously the majority of answers will favor the bitcoin bullish because pople here wants positive feeds and don’t even have care for those puppets that hates bitcoin and wanted this to die

maybe these people who you are talking about don't yet know what being bullish and bearish means!
sitting around and hoping for the market to move in a direction after you are done with it does't matter at all because you are already out of it and your thoughts don't matter.
what matters is when people are still in the market and are bullish meaning they buy more because they think price is going up or are bearish and think the opposite.

Most of the people who listened to negative propaganda became panicked, and failed to manage their asset which resulted to selling even though profit wasn't reached. However most certain cases became so drastic previous weeks ago, haters seem to influence more panic investors that's why we seen price was struggling to increase at better price surges. Bear market became so rampant, and that's not the side which I am looking for. Bull run must be established in order for cryptocurrency to become great again.

At this moment I can clearly say I am long on bull, I had enough time to collect as much bitcoin as I can and I continue to get more every week but at this point I am ready for a bull run.

Bear has been a bit good because thanks to the bear I have managed to drop the average buy price low enough to say I am fine with it, if the price went down a bit and went up again that would have been profit too but if it didn't give me enough time I wouldn't be capable of collecting this much bitcoin at these low amounts so I am grateful to bear market, yet no matter how much bear market worked out for me, I am always looking out for a bull for a quick get out.

If we can reach above $6k one day I will probably put a sell order and stop loss just so I can get out before it goes down again, however I need above $6k for that which is fairly bull. After going above $6k and I sell, than it can go back down so I can start to collect again.

But it is not too late, we are in a phase of accumulation, even so, this stage is where the price is very cheap, we also do not know when the bitcoin goes up, but it is getting longer, it may increase in this phase, but correct, perhaps in those corrections nearby should take advantage of the purchase of bitcoin a little cheaper.

I think the real investors don't think too much about entering at any price, it doesn't matter to them, the most important thing is how to be able to get profits and be able to influence prices in exchange.

Getting profits largely depends on your entry price, lol.

Investors aren't the same, they have different targets, risk management and different motives. I would say that most investors aren't as emotionally connected with crypto as most of us here are, which actually is a good thing. People valuing the fundamentals tend to hold on to their coins longer than those who don't, which especially during bear markets results in a wasted opportunity.

I could have gained way more by showing less attachment to whatever I hold in order to end up with more coins right now, but it's very easy to speak out like this afterwards.

You could say that about any Bitcoin business in existence. You could even say that about any Bitcoin owner in existence. Don't we all want higher prices? Even margin platforms want the bull market to return because bear markets = low volumes.

The question wasn't whether Jack Dorsey wants to make money though. The question was whether Jack Dorsey is a Bitcoin bull. If he was a Bitcoin bear, there's no way in hell Square would have integrated Bitcoin.

Or in other words: Smart investors buy when others sell and they sell when others buy.
Financial markets are a zero-sum game, one group will be in loss and another group will be on the different side of a trade. Bull traders look for liquidation points where bear hide their stops on sell positions. Before big trends, order stops of bears are filled with newborn buy orders of bulls. The match happens between orders, pressure squeezes opposite side for joining the trend, the train leaves the accumulation point. Just a friendly reminder, moving in the opposite direction is meaningless when a train is moving forward.

entry price is only one part of making profit. there still is a lot of other things to consider before being able to make good profit from an investment. for example consider the case of 2017 rise. the lowest price was around $1000 at the start of the year and one could technically enter there but making profit depended solely on the decisions that the investor made after that. for example there were many who panicked and sold their coins as price went back down a little in correction. so in their cases despite entering at a low price, they lost money.

I am on the bull side. I believe we have gone past the market correction and we have gotten to the stage where we are going to see a bull run the market, my reasons being that ever since bitcoin got to the $3000 range, it remained there and haven't gone below that, this is to show that we have already reach the pick of how low bitcoin can get for now and all we can expect is a fast recovery of the market in 2019.

All these movements are part of something very important, they want us to sell cheap, when this is the opportunity to buy cheap, so maybe, by lowering the price of bitcoin cause panic in people who have invested in bitcoin, especially , those who are insecure.

Is it really a question of whether you are with a particular camp of people? You might not even reflect their entire attitude towards bitcoin.

Also, is there any sort of specific time period that we are talking about here? Because you could be expecting a bear market to hit any time when bitcoin prices are overheated (like in the 2017 bull market) and yet still be a long term bitcoin bull. These two things are not mutually exclusive by any means.

I'd consider myself to be extremely bullish in the long term for bitcoin's potential, but I certainly am not a permabull which constantly spews out predictions that are never going to materialise, especially when a price correction is imminently happening.

Who are they? It's not that the "manipulators" pushing the price down means it's only them being presented the opportunity to buy lower, we all can.

I'm certain that most of the whales people think are manipulating the prices have done everything they could to support the price at levels well above the current ones. They are partly a bagholder too, just like many of us here are. The selling pressure was too much to handle for such a thinly traded market. It pumps and dumps hard, nothing new. It's just how this market is.

If you look at who is being compared, it's pretty obvious we must be talking about long term opinions.

On one side you have people who say Bitcoin is brilliant (Musk) and will become the native currency of the internet (Dorsey). On the other side you have people calling Bitcoin "rat poison" (Buffett) and "worse than tulip mania" (Roubini).

I'm definitely on the bull side myself, but I tend to temper my expectations a bit more than someone like Jack Dorsey. I'm confident Bitcoin will play an important role in global financial and economic activity, but I'm also ambivalent about the "one currency to rule them all" mentality that many Bitcoin bulls have.

No matter which side these famous guys gonna choose the invention will go further. Elon Musk is one of the biggest supporters on this industry and honestly, I am agreed with his opinions regarding crypto revolution that can be a game-changer for a traditional system.
 Warren Buffett is an old investor and nerd trader and he knows timing about when to talk about crypto's advantages. Ben Bernanke's opinion is outdated and i doubt he understands the mechanism of blockchain and bitcoin in his statement.

There is some people who really don't know if this year become bull market still or bull run . Other said this year it will become bull run but this year other think it will still bear market.  

Once the bull run comes more people still earn more money but if they still bull run there is a lot of people who still suffer from it. I hope no more investor sell their coins to start bull run because of the panic investor they still here at bear market.

You didn't add the most controversial personnel;  McAfee. Anyway, I think it doesn't matter on which side you are on. For me,  I feel one can be in both side cause you can profit from the both of you want to, whenever they do their thing.
It's just a matter of knowing when to buy more and sell to re-buy.

Of course many people will be more inclined to bulls, because that will give benefit. But we know that the market will always be bulls and bears. Like or dislike. Need or dont need. There will be a time when you sell and there are times when you start buying and collecting again when the bears occur

We do all care about earnings that's why we are investing our money and time, who would love to be part of bearish if you already have your investment inside, only those who are still trying to shake the market or people who don't believe with the system will be on this side, while people who trust and
believe that this chain will succeed will continue supporting the bull.

You need to stand on your own ground, trust yourself and not to rely with anyone else to justify your success.

only newbies who have no idea what the market is and how profit is made are more inclined to bulls because of profit! otherwise you can make profit in both markets as long as you know how to ride the waves.

others are more inclined towards bulls because they know something like bitcoin is still in its early days and there is only growth in front of it so bull market is the over all trend that we will have for years to come. anything else looks like a bear market in short term.

Even during the bear market, it will be difficult to find people who do not believe in the success of cryptocurrencies in this forum. Of course, I think that price drops it is a stage that we can find on every financial market and sooner or later prices will start rising again. So for sure i'm in the bull team.

Mr. Silbert forgot to mentioned:

Mike Novogratz
John McAfee
Tom Lee
Arthur Hayes

among the bitcoin bulls, why?

True, a bear despite his position that the market will go down is someone that is directly engaged in the market so their opinions holds more weight to me than the opinion of someone that is not really part of the market and in some cases they do not even understand bitcoin or why it exists at all, as a member of this forum you may guess that I am on the bull side when it comes to the long term price of bitcoin but when it comes to the next months I am neutral and I do not see a huge movement happening.

Just surfing along the movement of waves since I don't want to bring anything into the market now,just let it be and we may see the real price growth in real future.Being on the some side is really meant that we will do something to get the price manipulated and go towards the side which we are in but I don't support the manipulation.

Of course I prefer the bull side, even though the market conditions have not yet recovered, but I believe in the future there will be a bull market.

Well that's just how most people perceive what bears are. Honestly, i think you can't really choose sides. Unless of course you have enough bitcoins to be able to move the market on a whim. Bulls and bears can be the same group of persons you knows.

Same here i also prefer the bull side because that is the only moment that we can earn better profits compare to when the value is  stable or dump  .  your correct there will always be a bull market than can occur  in the future because that is the cycle of crypto  .  bull and bears do have time limit or time span on when they will last  .


True because in this forum , people here were already aware that cryptos are volatile . the up and down is normal  .  but what about for those who are not a member of this forum ?  Im talking about average people  . they wont believe that crypto can be succesful if they see that the market is bear .