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I am looking to invest some money on ICO. Now, I know I'm not going to go in on private sale as that is for private investors. Debating over to get whitelisted for pre-ICO sale or just wait for the public sale...

I did read the whitepaper of course and did not find anything about lock-in period which is definitely a thing to consider or at least for me.

If any of you guys find some time to look into a project called FAIREUM, I would love to know your thoughts on this. I must admit I am more drawn to investing in a project that deals with gambling as gambling is HUGE everywhere and if I can bag a few bucks using a platform made for gambling I'm definitely going in. I tend to go for a project that shows a greater chance of succeeding.

I would really really appreciate some advice. I will be the one to decide at the end of the day but other peoples thought can be a guide.

You may need go through the pinned threads on scam acussation section. There you will be find the guides to understand how to pick the good ICO/ITO projects. Some projects do not make anything on promotion base but have good product but some people do promotion and everything but there is no core product and etc.
So be careful before you pick the any ICO project.

I don't see anything in your post the factors that's confusing you whether to join pre-ICO or ICO.

As far as I know, pre-ICO offers bigger discount and as you said there is no lock in period. So what is exactly are you worried about?

I would advise you to invest in STOs instead of ICOs, since STO have a regulated body which regulate their activities and also these companies carrying out STO are always well known company that has a working project already, I believe this will give you more confidence to invest without thinking it's a scam, but if you insist on ICO, then I will tell you to make purchase in presale so that you can make more profit.

Faireum. :o

OP, just stay, and stick with Bitcoin, and HODL hard, and do not let "them" force your Bitcoins away from your strong grip. CONCENTRATE. 8)

Best suggestion, Hold more BITCOIN because its more profitable than to any new project. The risk is very high on ICO's right now, whether its a public sale or a pre-sale. HODL is also my game with bitcoin, though I don't concentrate much on this since I need also to buy top altcoins but I know, I'm happy to hold.

He's asking for some advice, but I think he already know what to do on this.

Never heard that Faireum so I can't advise you anything with it or I'm just so fed up with icos that turned out scam or shit so I don't give a damn at all. Though as you've said you're into gambling then why you don't just play in big sites? I mean investing in ico is more like a gambling but when you play there will be probability that you won or at least earn more decently.

Think about it. Ico is long gone now.

It is very difficult if choosing ICO randomly or not analyzing it in depth is not useful to use pre-ICO in vain, I strongly agree to choose Bitcoin because it is the right choice but at the right time to be in a very favorable condition , that does not mean that ICO is not good but how we choose it correctly, but at some point it will be extraordinary in the future all have special advantages every time the ICO is launched and some of us must know that garbage is everywhere.

yes indeed that is a very common understanding.

Choice is one of the most important thing, in my own advice since you have got to study about the project and get every information need going for the public ICO is quite ok, due to that shows they are ready and going to keep the community  and everyone is taking part.

If you are sure about the project and you trust it then you can buy directly when the pre ICO starts because you will have some great discounts and bonuses. But in my opinion its better to wait for public sale since there are some projects who are scam that run away after the pre ICO. Also you can see how much interest people had in the pre ICO to determinate if the public sale will be even better.

Some advice on my  Guidelines, how to spot a scam ICO & report effectively (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5004397.0) thread. I am really not fan of ICO investment. But if you highly think that a project will success then you could invest at your own risk. Because thats your fund and you have right only decide where you have to invest. Don't invest emotionally, research yourself before invest. If you would like to ask my suggestion, then stay away from ICO and invest on few existing coin.    

Sure but it is going to take some time.

I would propose for you to stay on the trusted ones. e.g. Bitcoin and Ethereum.
ICOs have been a bad investment last year and this year for too many scams. You might be risking way too much in doing this.
If I were to completely check Faireum it will still not give a 100 percent accuracy that you could profit in it for a long run.
It takes like a year before you could feel it.
Are you ready to wait that long?
As I see to your post, you are already in doubt.

Fear of loosing money via investment is the fear of not moving forward. Despite the fact that there so many scam project in the crypto currency space that doesn't mean there are no good one that will bring good return to investors. Just that OP need to verify careful in project selection and that was why he is seeking advice from people here before he will finally make his investment decision.

I will advise you to be quite careful of some projects that have private sale. Though some may be true of actually conducting this sales but many are just lies. Because ICO investment is not like they way it was few years ago,  many investors are skeptical of putting in their money into it and ICOs developers use imaginary 'private sales' that never happened to attract other investors like you who are willing to put their money into their project.

Neither.

Wait for the asset to hit the exchanges. Prices will plummet like a sinking stone in the sea.
You would get higher discounts than what the pre-ico / public sale would get you.

This is the exact reason why ICO's fail these days.

First, you go check if the site or the ICO is not listed in ICOETHICS list of scam sites or if there is a report about the project, this is the hardest time to invest in ICO many investors prefer ICO although you have done the right thing asking people about the project, it means you are serious investors and wants a safe investment.

sure, pre-sale can be more profitable almost for every ico project. definitely if it is not a scam. though too much black pr is done nowadays...

Hard to tell if OP is really asking for an advise or just shilling that ICO.

Unless you have no problem providing personal information for pre ICO, I think that is the more obvious choice.

Pre ICO will provide an opportunity to be able to buy coins much cheaper, so this is something we can use.
But keep in mind that there are currently a lot of projects that have very little success.
so do the calculation correctly, mistakes in investing will only make ourselves experience a nightmare.
COin and developers will greatly influence how a coin can develop.

There were some ICOs that were bringing some of its investors some good returns, in hindsight. But to get the context of my reply, OP was asking about an ICO called Faireum. 8)

Thank you so much for your advice. I'd been diligent enough or at least I think and been looking to the project I want to invest in. I know the market is crazy but I was not able to participate in any ICO for the last months. I want to test the water I think. Deciding is never easy.

I lost a lot with keeping my ETH paper loss some may say but if I will spend it now it won't be paper loss anymore  :-[ The plan really, for now, is to buy in cheap and hopefully get doubled but It is never an assurance I know and I understand that there are risks involved too.

Risk though is part of almost everything and I am still feeling myself to how much risk I can take. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your thoughts I really appreciate it.

What about OP make investment after the said coin has been listed on exchange? There has been many scammed ICOs which will pretend to be okay but at the end its a scam. Lesson learned during my early days in cryptocurrency investment is; Do diligence research and the solution the said project brought to solve human problems.

This is the best way to invest for now because most ICO will eventually lose value as a result of the steps being taken by security exchanges to clamp down on them even though their activities of ICOs cannot be regulated, most ICOs nowadays are basically scam and does not have anything to protect the interest of investors except on trust.

At least with STO, most of the blockchain communities will be obliges to follow government regulations thereby given the investor assurance of investing in a safe way.

Opporturnity is huge while on pre-ico stage but there is also a huge risk of the project to fail sincr it is just a pre- stage and uncertain. But if ever that the project succeeds you'll benefit from it more and profit os double or even triple compared to public sale investor.

It seems more like you are planning on investing in a new ICO sine you mentioned pre-sale or public sales.
To me, I think it is quite a wrong idea to invest in new ICO now considering what is happening with the general markets prices as not one knows the direction it will take yet.

I will rather you invest in already existing coins with viable project and trustworthy teams or better still, use the money to trade some altcoins daily and make profit daily rather than HODL some altcoins yet to be known when you are not so sure of its survival yet.

To analyse an ICO is a difficult task specially in this bear market where hundreds of new ICOs are launched on weekly/monthly basis,  before investing you should need to consult an ICO experts or good advisers.
Public sale would be good option to invest if you think that this project will be a success.

Why not try IEO(Initial Exchange Offering)? its good since binance started their Binance launchpad it attracts more investors and traders and it feels so comfortable since binance launch it but there is always a risk. Other exchanges are starting to implement this kind of tokensale also.

Binance trading platform is not a normal exchanges. Because they only implement the high reputation projects or high margin projects so surely it will not die at quickly. But other normal exchanges are increasing the trading fees and low marketcap ICO so Investors are not believe the other exchanges.

You are right the result on normal exchanges is most likely different I have seen one exchange their IEO is not finished until now unlike binance is done in seconds or minutes. But I think if some Top 10 exchanges will implement IEO it will have a decent result.

IEO is a new trend and many other exchanges are implementing this model of Binance to be able to attract new customers. I think this is a very smart thing because they will ensure profit when participating in investment and this is an alternative to the entire current ICO.

it's very difficult to choose good ICO right now and most of them have long term of pre ico and public sale. If you will invest in ICO I think it's better to invest in pre ICO which tend to have huge bonuses and it is also have discount once you participate unlike in public sale it has low discount. Make your own research on choosing good ICO.

Only few survives holding altcoins so chances of you getting much profit after investing an ICO is to sell the coins the first change you get when its listed to an exchange and then hold BTC tight before buying back granting the project is solid. FAIREUM isn't somewhat I've heard before so I tried looking into the project and saw the team is big as a crowded room and has lots of partner which which is good. If its for gambling then this isn't the first project you know about gambling. Think before investing.

I do not recommend you to invest in an ICO with these market conditions because many ICOs have cost the investor in today's conditions. On the other hand, I can advise you if your decision is certain;
Investment in public sale will be better in terms of quick trade because the investments made in this process are not sent as locked. On the other hand, transactions made during this period are also available when it comes to the stock market stage. However, there is a case that the investments made in the pre-ICO period are generally made at a more favorable price. Of course, the investments made in this process are generally not available immediately and can cause losses in the long term. We can even give you the best example of this case as Ubex.

i personally prefer buying the coin at the time of coin listed in the exchange that is when we can get best price once all the volatility of the price complete. In this bear market we can expect mostly after listing of the coin 

In this current situation my suggest  is do not invest in the ICO. Just focus to invest in another altcoin like Ethereum and BNB Coin a think it will be more profitable.

the easiest way to decide - check the project not to be a scam. if it look good - then definitely join pre-sale

I advise you not to invest in these ICOs. As much as the team members of these ICOs are true, as much as you know the names of people behind the ICO, do not invest your money in these ICOs. in the last months I have seen many cases where the people that have invested in these ICOs are with very large losses. and see that I'm talking about ICOs where team members are real people.

The last time I invested in ICO when I got advice from famous people in this community, but in the end the tokens they released did not have a good exchange rate, while the initial recommendations for tokens would be a big success with a high exchange rate. So, in conclusion, I will no longer invest in ICO even though it is recommended. Why invest in projects that have greater risk, while there are still many other big projects with famous coins that they have that we can easily find because of their popularity.

Are you sure you want to do this? I would like to share my experience when participating in the ICO project for gambling and do you know that the project turned out to be a SCAM, so my advice is to choose the original ICO gambling project if you want to participate in the gambling industry,

It is very important that we should understand that icos'market is having bad time as it seems many fakes projects bring bad name to the cryptocurrencies market and icos market and as such I will said we would be good if we should have time to invest we should also create time to read the whitepaper and study the roadmap very very well.  You should make sure that the products are aready existing and we should be able to invest in project that has been listed in some populars exchange because Most of the projects lose 95% of it original values and that makes many investors to loss money and as such make people to lose interest in investing in icos.

My suggestion is don't invest in the pre-ICO or use an only small amount money to buy the tokens. It's better to buy the token after it's release on the market than to buy in the pre-ICO. You don't know what will happen with the ICO because we are seen many ICO cannot rising after the ICO finished. But it's up to you, we could only give a suggestion and the rest it's your decision.

But pre ICO only gives profit for the investors who want to make billions. Not sure why the people do not wish to invest on pre sale.

There are many ICO rating sites available in the market, In that ICObench is one of the trustworthy site to read more about the project. If we find good rating then we can invest on the best tokens available in that list.

Lately IEO came into the market which also can affect ICO profits so definitely not a good tim to invest on new project whether it is presale or public sale just hold your cruotos as it is we are at the edge of bull run to begin.

If me, my opinion is when you really sure about the project, buy at pre ICO because there are a lot of bonus in there so you can get cheaper price. But make sure first project that you want to buy is good and no problem with it.

Go with the pre ICO as they have good discount offered for investors.
That if you really love the project and you believe on it's potential, for me, I don't trust in ICO now as it will only dump when listed in exchange.
I don't judge a certain project only but the overall ICO is not doing well recently.

Which is the common result right now, most of the projects are not performing and taking investment is too risky, you have to think twice
and if you really fully convince buying at the pre ico stage will give some bonuses that can be your additional profits if the coins perform after
the listing.

For gambling projects, I never invest even for $ 1. I don't need to know how much of the profit it brings me every month but such projects often collapse very soon. I do not believe gambling can help people get rich.
When you invest in it, you may be tempted by the greed and you will not find a way out. Many of my friends have been so and I advise you not to invest in it.

pre ico or public sale now not profitable anymore since IEO launched on reputable exchanges.although pre ico give huge discount to its participants but now investors prefer investing in IEO.they believe this way will give them profits.

maybe some exchanges token which pays dividends depend on volume on it's markets? for example kucoin pays dividends for long time

I agree with you . Most of these projects are only suitable for greedy people and good investors often stay away from these gambling projects because the risks can be huge. It can be seen that in recent times, only technology projects can survive in this market but the success rate is very low because they are inclined to invest in more IEO projects, making ICO Not much value

PRE-ICO would be the best time but the question is on how you do trust up projects potential? You can buy out on having discounts rather waiting for yourself to puchase
on public sale.
They are different but as an investor you do have the chance on earning profits rather than for those people who do bought higher on ICO price,but?

The question is, would these tokens would able to hit up exchangers? If not, then no matter which time you do purchase it would be still a sure loss for you.

If you have done your research then go for it, pre-ICO is good because they offer a good bonus for pre ICO, sometimes up to 25% bonus but of course you will have to wait a little longer because ICO will take long before it is finished but if you are comfortable investing with your chosen ICO then go for it.

most the ico will tank when listed on an exchange, unless it was hyped so much + listing on top tier exchange. Some legit ICO who already have their own product and have a profit selling it still tanked when enter an exchange.

That's true because it's very important to pick the project that have good product and having a good value in the future. It's not about the pre-sale or public sale the success of the project is on the team, the product and the unique of the products that some investors really want.

It will really be unwise of anyone to do at this critical stage to invest in pre ICO, I think many people too has been following these rules, and probably reasons why they hardly meet up with their hardcap, but there are some ICOs that this rules might not be applicable to, some of those one that has minimum amount an investor can invest.

This contributes to why I am always against IEO, most of their project I have seen so far, especially on Binance has minimum order as requirement and I think their minimum order cannot be classified as small amount, except for the fact that the projects on Binance IEO are secured ones.

I had some good deals in pre ICO's and if you ask me, I would recommend pre ICO's. You could get good deals and nice bonuses. If you are a small investor and don't want to invest much money, you could pool funds with people you can trust. I don't recommend that idea since money involved in this there is always risk.

I don't buy coins on presale. I had a bad experience in buying such coins. Now I can buy coins only when I see that the project is developing and collecting money is going well.

ICObench publishes trusted projects as well as scam ones. I never rely on ico rating sites to find reliable projects.
In the current situation, investing money in preico is good if public sale will be in binance. Otherwise, investing at every step means loss. Instead wait for listing.

Go for IEO instead, its new and for sure the hype there is high also. Yes, ICO are not performing well over the past months and so many failed project that makes the investor doubted. Or if you’re still undecided go invest on bitcoin and have peace of mind everyday.

Investing in an ICO is good because you can get more profits but take note that most of the ICO's right now are scam already.

I didn't research on the ICO you said but I'm not investing on any ICO's and will never be. I'd rather put my money into Bitcoin and other trusted coins already and hold them for the long run.

I also dont have trust on ICO now, but if I saw some exchange that will conduct an ICO  I put some investment to their coin. I dont want to put investments to a certain coin whos purpose wont last for a long period of time because it might lead to scam one or even a coin without value soon.

Well, you should decide because you will be the person that is responsible for your actions. If you try to invest on pre ICO, please know this, what if the ICO turns into scam? It will be hard to face that if you invested a lot on that and that ended up as scam. In public sale, you can be sure that if their project is on the go because you have time to decide whether it is legit or not. But the bonus of pre ICO is what you miss.

I think they are doing a bounty campaign right now, better check the sales if they are going to reach the softcap, if they are really interested to invest on that ICO and you have done your research, it's better to invest in their pre ICO because of their bonus, but if they failed to reach the cap, your money could be stuck.

Probably, that's much better to do than risking your money riding with new projects without any assurance that the coin will be listed after, unlike
with holding those quality coins together with bitcoin where value are already known and you just needed to wait for the rise even it will take some
time of waiting but little assurance that the value will be keep inside the exchange.

Though I don't suggest to invest in ICO. But if you are interested in investing your fund to an ICO then I will suggest you invest during the public sell. Because of duirng pre-sale, we can not understand the project fully. And when you will see the project successfully passed their pre-sale in short time, So have a chance the project is legit. Then you can invest if you can see the pre-sale passed already with successfully.

And always try to investigate more before investing any ICO and you can search on Scam Accusations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0=) thread of this forum to find out any open scam accusation have or not.

When it comes to investment the word "Assurance" wont really fit out no matter what. Sure profits doesnt exist yet any investment even on offline or traditional ones
would give out guarantees for you to make money but looking on its trail and the potential we can really say that it is really possible no matter what.It might take sometime but it would be more
worthy to try out than risking your funds into those unclear and scammy ICO's.

It is no doubt passing through a bad times and no one can help it now. The sole reason behind the downfall of the ICO is the dubious projects that cost people their money they had put in. There is a general consensus that if you make use of ICO now, your project will be considered fake and funds would never be raised. On the other hand, IEO has been making immense buzz and name in the crypto market.

As of now, I am afraid that OP cannot raise enough money out of this community alone and due to this reason everyone must need to have their own funds to cover up initial expenses. Other than own funds, I guess probably close friends and colleagues may come forward to invest as preICO mode but definitely we cannot expect this community may risk after hundreds of scams in the name of ICOs.

Why would you not understand their project if they are providing their infos such as roadmap , white paper  , and other details on their site or on their ico ann thread on this forum and on other ico info sites ?  They release all of that infos before they start their pre sale or public sale  . though its wise if you will invest on pre ico because of the bonuses that they offer .


Good suggestion you got there meyt  .  thats right .  investigating or doing some deep research regarding to the ico that you will invest is a nice idea to avoid any further problems  . there were also other sites that list scam and legit ico's  but i forgot the name. Anyways , googel is your friend :)

There are still lots of ICOs that are very good and can be trusted, they are also having challenge of meeting their soft and hardcap too because of the lack of investor’s interest in putting fund, but we still have so many believers who would take the risk, but they don’t just take risk, they do lots of research to spot out the good ones from the meaningless projects.

For investors that are not willing to take any risk any longer, they would rather prefer to invest in trusted coins like BTC that can guarantee the safety of their investment which is still the best way to operate in this period till some positive comes out of ICO again.

In my opinion, presale is more better as compared to public sales since there more bonus for the early investors during the pre-sale and that can earn you more profit if the project in question scale through.

Getting in on the earliest time as possible is the best time for you to make possible profits when those tokens hit up on exchangers but its your choice if you purchase bulks of it yet it is heavily discounted when they are on pre-sale period unlike on public sale which is lower but price on hitting up exchangers wont really be an assurance to be the same and most of the time they are much more lower where they do even go lower to the price
when its still on pre-sale.So, you do still end up on negative.

It depends on the project that you are choosing. I guess knowing a project and the product first would give you a better assurance to invest during the pre-Ico. It's better to invest earlier where you could avail their bonuses, discounts and airdrops but be mindful of the coin that you're choosing.

As far as the is no lock in period on the whit paper and you fine the project to have great potential then you can go ahead to invest in it, but to me personally I always like to invest on a project when it at it public sale because the pre sale period always take a long time and any project that make it through that stage is good enough for the rest of the ICO period.

In my opinion gambling is not a good option for bag a few bucks. It's too risky for your investment. I am sorry that i can't look at that project for you. But if you really love your money stay way from those gambling project and invest such good project like ERECOIN, SOLAREX or Bitway etc.

Take a look on what happened on BKT(betking) and (CSNO)Bitdice?

Gambling business might be profitable but for the self-token made they have done their prices is already on the floor.

Gambling platforms is earning good profits so it could be a good option to invest.  Read the white paper carefully,  know about the team and then take any decision.  I also heard about FAIREUM,  and it has quite decent positive view in market. Risk would always be high in investing in ICO but more risk gives more profit too.

You should not go with ICO because of reasons that will lead your project to a defamed one. ICOs are not trustworthy among people right now and have shortcomings. You should rather focus on IEO. Getting your IEO conducted on an exchange would help a lot with quick access to funds and marketing. ICO will not facilitate you in that scenario. Crypto startups go for IEO to be successful in the long run.

When we are satisfied with some good ICOs and there would be some big discounts for early contribution then we may go for that particular ICO alone. For this we may have some reserve fund allocation and that should be less than 20% by considering how hard ICO scams in recent past.

There are lots of focus already on IEO platform and projects, but it comes with so many conditions that are making it difficult for people to get in.

First, for project developers, IEO is quite expensive as they have to pay for listing and not many of them are ready for the cost till after ICO, the only reason why some of the ones that has participated have been successful is because we still have limited projects and the number of people who are willing to participate are so much greater than what the project can supply, so they are able to sell quickly, but once IEO becomes rampant now, they will be so much delay too in meeting up.

The last thing I also don’t like about IEO right now, although o know it’s because of the limited project we have, so many investors don’t get to be a part before it ended, so what would they do in that scenario, they wait till 10 or 20 years before they invest?

I think it's better to wait for the coin to be listed on an exchange first before investing. From hindsight, neither private sale nor public sale is profitable anymore. ICOs used to give enviable ROI pre-2018. However, if you must do ICOs now, then think of sales on a exchanges (IEO). At least that guarantees your investment won't be fretted away by some rogue developers.