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Title: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: proexcept on March 04, 2019, 11:58:13 AM
Hello, community.
Recently I was redtrusted by marlboroza (I suppose by accident).

Here is my story.
Since the middle of February 2019 I was taking part in two ponzi projects like an investor: Tron Village and Clash Royale. The second one is a clone of the first one. They both are high-risk gamefied ponzy projects with open source code - it's not a secret or some kind of. I've made a ROI calculator for both of them and released it here: dappcalc.com. Tron village is a pretty famous project and Clash royale is a new one, so I've decided to help the second one, so I was pretty active in its threads, but I'm not a moderator/administrator. Here is my key points:

1. First of all I was active only in gambling/hyip sections: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114388, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114384
2. I haven't attract people to the project elsewhere, where it's forbidden - only in project's threads: http://archive.is/rkuXQ
3. I haven't broken any rule: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0. At least I haven't found the appropriate one.
4. I've made a calculator for Tron village as well as for Clash Royale and I guess it's not biased from my standpoint.
5. I haven't hidden any information about projects. I like math and as an investor I'm interested in different kind of calculations. The only thing I did is sharing my thoughts with community.

So I assume I didn't violate any of rule so why am I redtrusted by marlboroza? I wasn't able to talk with him directly, because I was blocked by him automatically. So that's why I was forced to start this thread.

Thanks in advance for your time.

P.S.

Here is the post I was redtrusted after: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114388.msg50006128#msg50006128


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on March 04, 2019, 12:39:47 PM
There is no way to appeal. The only way to get rid of your red trust is by convincing the personel who left it to remove it.


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: khaled0111 on March 04, 2019, 01:32:34 PM
Ponzi/ pyramid schemes are blatant frauds/scams, thus promoting a ponzi scheme is the same as promoting a scam and from there came your tag.

You should remove your posts where you promoted those projects then you can PM marlboroza and ask him to remove/edit his tag (he is not a DT member but DTs will start tagging you - TMAN already did)

Lock your thread in meta: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116714.0
Next time use the "move topic" button, you can find it on bottom left of the page.


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on March 04, 2019, 01:43:17 PM
There is no way of coming back out of a Ponzi related red tag situation my friend. Personally talking to the person who tagged you would have been the best course of action but since he had blocked you from sending him PMs then it's pretty much a clear message that you don't have any second chance with him.
Just let it go.


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: Findingnemo on March 04, 2019, 02:23:41 PM
You are going to get higher number in red soon by made more attention to DT members by creating this thread.

When the reason for your tag is ponzi then you have to love with it forever.


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: nutildah on March 04, 2019, 03:52:26 PM
Ponzi/ pyramid schemes are blatant frauds/scams, thus promoting a ponzi scheme is the same as promoting a scam and from there came your tag.

You should remove your posts were you promoted those projects then you can PM marlboroza and ask him to remove/edit his tag (he is not a DT member but DTs will start tagging you - Tman already did)

Actually marlboroza is DT2 - he is trusted by several DT1 members.

But your advice is excellent. Unfortunately the damage is likely already done.


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: Vod on March 04, 2019, 04:59:56 PM
Hello, community.
Recently I was redtrusted by marlboroza (I suppose by accident).

Here is my story.
Since the middle of February 2019 I was taking part in two ponzi projects like an investor: Tron Village and Clash Royale.

Just in case marlboroza tagged you by accident (lol), I have tagged you on purpose.   Don't try and steal from others.


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: Findingnemo on March 04, 2019, 05:10:58 PM
I told you right  ;D

previous trust score : -2: -1 /+0 but now it is -16: -4 / +0

Your love towards red getting stronger but this is just beginning I will be you will see more reds in a day.


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: r1s2g3 on March 04, 2019, 06:16:41 PM
I do not know whether the developer of game clash Royale should be banned for plagariasm ( Intellectual property theft) and OP for supporting and promoting the theft?

By self admission, they copied smart contract from Tron Village but they also shamelessly copied the names and design from the very famous "Clash of Clan" game.


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: DireWolfM14 on March 04, 2019, 06:30:38 PM
Recently I was redtrusted by marlboroza (I suppose by accident).

I don't always stumble over my computer cord and red-tag users by accident.   But, when I do; it's always a ponzi promoter.  :D

Tag away, my friends.


Just so the OP is aware, even if you didn't promote the ponzi project, you supported it while knowing full well that it's a ponzi.  That's untrustworthy behavior so your red tags are well earned.  

This thread has been archived for reference. (http://archive.fo/X6I97)  


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: marlboroza on March 04, 2019, 10:29:03 PM
I wasn't able to talk with him directly, because I was blocked by him automatically. So that's why I was forced to start this thread.
It wasn't me, new AI Blocking Message System developed by Thermos blocked your messages.


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: bones261 on March 04, 2019, 11:19:05 PM
Oops, couldn't resist. Red is such a fierce color...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CduA0TULnow


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: akamit on March 05, 2019, 12:07:03 AM
Hello, community.
Recently I was redtrusted by marlboroza (I suppose by accident).

Here is my story.
Since the middle of February 2019 I was taking part in two ponzi projects like an investor: Tron Village and Clash Royale. The second one is a clone of the first one. They both are high-risk gamefied ponzy projects with open source code - it's not a secret or some kind of. I've made a ROI calculator for both of them and released it here: dappcalc.com. Tron village is a pretty famous project and Clash royale is a new one, so I've decided to help the second one, so I was pretty active in its threads, but I'm not a moderator/administrator. Here is my key points:

1. First of all I was active only in gambling/hyip sections: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114388, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114384
2. I haven't attract people to the project elsewhere, where it's forbidden - only in project's threads: http://archive.is/rkuXQ
3. I haven't broken any rule: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0. At least I haven't found the appropriate one.
4. I've made a calculator for Tron village as well as for Clash Royale and I guess it's not biased from my standpoint.
5. I haven't hidden any information about projects. I like math and as an investor I'm interested in different kind of calculations. The only thing I did is sharing my thoughts with community.

So I assume I didn't violate any of rule so why am I redtrusted by marlboroza? I wasn't able to talk with him directly, because I was blocked by him automatically. So that's why I was forced to start this thread.

Thanks in advance for your time.

P.S.

Here is the post I was redtrusted after: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114388.msg50006128#msg50006128

Even here you are admitting your involvement in ponzi and still you think marlboroza left red trust by accident?

Instead of making this thread you should have convinced marlboroza to remove the red trust by assuring him you will not get involved in ponzi.
But you made this thread and welcomed 4 more red trusts by TMAN, suchmoon, Vod and bones261.
Now you have to convince 5 red painters to get out of the red painting... You made the case much difficult for yourself...


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: bones261 on March 05, 2019, 12:31:33 AM
Even here you are admitting your involvement in ponzi and still you think marlboroza left red trust by accident?

Instead of making this thread you should have convinced marlboroza to remove the red trust by assuring him you will not get involved in ponzi.
But you made this thread and welcomed 4 more red trusts by TMAN, suchmoon, Vod and bones261.
Now you have to convince 5 red painters to get out of the red painting... You made the case much difficult for yourself...


Hey, I also left him a link to a Britney Spears video. She was smoking hot when she was young. And she's dancing around in a red catsuit. A Purrfect gift.  8)


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: hacker1001101001 on March 05, 2019, 02:13:46 AM
4. I've made a calculator for Tron village as well as for Clash Royale and I guess it's not biased from my standpoint.

Creating Profit calculators for ponzi schemes does not prove you were just working with math or you care about the community in anyway because there is no profit from such fake projects at the first place. It just looks like a big joke.

Clash Royale Tron (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114388.0) is in no way related or endorsed by the real mobile gaming Giant Supercell, which has its game named "Clash Royal" (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_Royale). I usually play that game, it's pretty good by the way. But I was shocked to see a crypto project running under the same name. Clash Royale Tron (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114388.0) have also copied the original Clash Royal logo, and some shitty peoples are still promoting the project on YouTube (https://youtu.be/jraAoJYwm8k) which is more worst for sure.


shamelessly copied the names and design from the very famous "Clash of Clan" game.

There is already a interrelated game developed by SuperCell company named "Clash Royal" (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_Royale) inspired from "Clash Of Clans" (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_Clans) and this ponzi project have copied it's working and designs from the real "Clash Royal" (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_Royale) which looks like a stupid scam in my opinion.


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: tbct_mt2 on March 05, 2019, 03:06:33 AM
Updated trust score hours after published the Red Trust Accusation Appeal:
-2: -1 /+0 but now it is -32: -5 / +0
The OP should honestly accept mistakes, or violations.
We are all human, so we all can make mistakes.
Admit them, accept punishments are better approach because doing this will probably not make situation worse.

Sometimes ago, months (if I remembered exactly), there is a topic in which discussed about giving red-trusted or banned users chances to get back after long period if they shown their good attitude to change their minds, their ways to use forum.
By now, the proposed topic's ideas have not implemented, still been under-disscussed.

I will search and give you the topic later. Wait for minutes.
Edited:
I have not found it after minutes to scan around in Meta, gave it up for now, but I will update with link when I see it later.


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: The Cryptovator on March 05, 2019, 04:01:59 AM
@OP, you should open thread if you highly believe the tag was wrong and you have to provide also strong evidence. But you are doing wrong and in a result more red tag reflecting in your profile.

1. First of all I was active only in gambling/hyip sections:
Not only active, you were shilling. You have been trying to mislead investors.

5. I haven't hidden any information about projects. I like math and as an investor I'm interested in different kind of calculations. The only thing I did is sharing my thoughts with community.
Had you warned community about risk of investment?

So I assume I didn't violate any of rule so why am I redtrusted by marlboroza?  
Trust isn't moderated by forum and trust isn't just for rule breaker. You have tried to motivate people's to invest on a high risky website.


So you already got what you deserve.


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: yx67 on March 05, 2019, 06:55:01 PM
Hi guys, I need your help. Tell me how to remove Tryst-2 to write to someone or in what topic?
The situation was this. Participated in the bounty, made a post even on page 10 and left. I look at trust-2, I go to the bounty and on page 9 it is written SCAM, who will continue the red color. Well, I did not see it and what to do now?


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: The Cryptovator on March 05, 2019, 07:06:11 PM
Well, I did not see it and what to do now?
Nothing! your red trust are legit in my opinion especially by suchmoon. Your last negative feedback for exchange merit between your alt account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1804284.msg50032108#msg50032108). So now if you bother to open new thread then there is high chance to increase your negative (-ve) feedback like OP. Just stay happy with two feedback. You did wrong and you deserve it.

Your current trust is -4: -2 / +0.


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: tbct_mt2 on March 06, 2019, 02:02:03 AM
Firstly, you should use correct term. Trust. instead of Tryst.
Tryst-2
Honestly, what is Tryst in English dictionary. Please tell me.
If it is your typo, you should correct (edit) it.
If you use wrong term due to your misunderstanding, you should search and discover more about the Trust system of the forum.
There are DT-1 and DT-2 members.


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: akamit on March 06, 2019, 07:05:13 AM
Hi guys, I need your help. Tell me how to remove Tryst-2 to write to someone or in what topic?
The situation was this. Participated in the bounty, made a post even on page 10 and left. I look at trust-2, I go to the bounty and on page 9 it is written SCAM, who will continue the red color. Well, I did not see it and what to do now?

You have 3 red ratings, 2 out of 3 is solid by Lauda and Suchmoon. Merit traders, manipulators and abusers should not be forgiven at any cost.

Marlboroza's red paint can be considered if you can convince him with the statement you wrote here but the chances are very slim.
But your efforts to convince marlboroza will be useless because of the two other red paints which will not be removed ever.



Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: marlboroza on March 06, 2019, 11:30:11 AM
Hi guys, I need your help. Tell me how to remove Tryst-2 to write to someone or in what topic?
The situation was this. Participated in the bounty, made a post even on page 10 and left. I look at trust-2, I go to the bounty and on page 9 it is written SCAM, who will continue the red color. Well, I did not see it and what to do now?
You don't see many things.

Interesting signature. What is Synchrotron Coin, ~70% premine, no ICO, "mini sale" and what is this doing here:

https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/4352fcaa825dc01f39eb94dffde2ed258279dcd0499fd9a0f786bd33dac07499/detection

https://i.imgur.com/fhLBnG1.png

Is this wallet safe?


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: Harlot on March 06, 2019, 07:17:36 PM
The problem here is whether you intentionally or unaware of what you are promoting you are still shilling a ponzi scheme not one but two which still manages to attract people based on how you post your promotions to them, you even entertained ROI questions for them as if its like you are part of the team for Tron Village and Clash Royale. The red tags you receive are all your fault and you should have done a little bit of research before trying to get other people interested.


Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: mirakal on March 09, 2019, 02:42:26 AM
Quote
Hello, community.
Recently I was redtrusted by marlboroza (I suppose by accident).

I'm guessing you receive only 1 red trust the time you make this thread and the way I see it, it's not an accident because the next day you receive another red trust from other DT members here. It's not what you are expecting but you just show yourself visible to more DT to give their feed back easily and take note, other DTs would not give their feed back if they are not seeing the same as  marlboroza saw.



Title: Re: Red trust accusation appeal
Post by: asche on March 10, 2019, 08:09:24 PM
There is no way to appeal. The only way to get rid of your red trust is by convincing the personel who left it to remove it.

Well he could also try to convince other DT members to Green Trust him.

But again, not going to happen.