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Title: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Alik Bahshi on March 08, 2019, 09:49:51 AM

After a long trial, the court found Manafort guilty.
The former head of the election headquarters of Donald Trump, Paul Manafort, received 3 years and 11 months in prison for financial crimes. The political strategist and the person involved in the case of Russian intervention in the US presidential election will also have to pay a $ 50,000 fine and compensation in the amount of about 24 million.

The second court in Washington, will announce the verdict on March 13.
The second business of the political technologist, more serious. According to him, Manafort is accused of conspiring against the state, money laundering, giving false testimony, concealing important information and violating the rules of registration as a foreign agent - before working with Trump, he worked for the ex-president of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych. https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-47479799

If we take into account that Yanukovych is a protege of Putin, and if Manafort really dealt with the traitor of Ukraine, then Manafort definitely doesn’t get out and the prison is provided for him for a longer period.

 


Alik Bakhshi
Putin's hand at the White House
   
   It seems that the team Trump entered the man Putin, they turned out to be the adviser of the US president, the former intelligence chief Pentagon General Michael Flynn. Interestingly, this retired general back in 2015 sat at the table next to Putin at a gala dinner in honor of the 10th anniversary of the Russian television company known for its duplicity in presenting information.

                                                             

     Pictured (http://www.bbc.com/russian/news-38965606) former head of the Pentagon's Intelligence Michael Flynn with a mobile phone in close company on the right of Putin's hand. How rival knights of cloak and dagger found themselves at the same table in a friendly company? And it's during the war between Russia and Ukraine and the introduction of anti-Russian sanctions. What is a retired general Flynn talked with Putin over dinner is not known, but it was reported that Flynn, being an unofficial person, that is, before his appointment as advisor to the president, has repeatedly had phone conversations with Russian Ambassador to America, where they discussed new sanctions entered by the president Obama shortly before his inauguration Trump. Thus, Flynn went to a violation of US law, which prohibits private individuals to interfere in matters of the country's foreign policy. Moreover, it is naturally concealed from the public the fact of talks with the Russian ambassador. While I was writing these lines, it was reported that Michael Flynn, without waiting for a scandal, resigned. Contact with dirty people, usually leads to trouble, as demonstrated by the example of Flynn, who had the imprudence to approach with a known liar, President Putin (1).
     This situation inevitably leads to the question, and who is actually the Donald Trump? Sure, Trump was aware of the contacts of your future advisor to the ambassador of Russia and knew the subject of secret negotiations. But most importantly - why it was so important for Trump, in general, for America, why the rush? Yes, all the growing anti-Russian sanctions are Russian economic collapse, and it disturbs Revanchists Putin, but Trump? Is it important question of sanctions for Trump, he in such a hurry, before the inauguration of discussing the issue of sanctions? Was he a protege of Putin, as was former Ukrainian President Yanukovych? Really, as is the case with Yanukovych, Putin also has the dirt on Trump? It seems that Putin is truly a genius in the achievement of its goals: FIFA president Joseph Blatter, President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych is now possible to Donald Trump, who's next? Putin clearly conducts undercover struggle, taking advantage of an open democratic society. By the way, I am sure that Putin was preparing a government coup in Montenegro, where a large number of Russian, owning real estate. This brings to mind Putin's slogan to defend the "Russian world", to which he regularly follows - Ukraine, Moldova, and so on throughout the post-Soviet space (2). To implement this policy objective Putin needs to neutralize the West, he developed a method which victim possibly become Donald Trump.
    One thing is clear - America can not escape a major political and criminal scandal.

1. The Empire of Lies and its chief liar. http://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/#post-alikbahshi-22317
2. The constituent peoples and its Fuhrer, or Ukraine, and the list goes on. http://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/#post-alikbahshi-21749

14/2/17

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     Gradually the facts are revealed, exposing high-ranking officials from the team of Donald Trump, concealing its contacts with Russian officials in America. So, after the resigned adviser to the president of the Trump National Security Michael Flynn, who escaped from the Senate his talks with Russian Ambassador Kislyak during the election campaign, now in deception caught myself Attorney General USA Jeff Seshns that the consideration of the Senate of his candidacy for the post of Attorney General the question whether he had contacts with representatives of the Russian Federation, said: "I have not had any contact with Russian". As it turned out, Seshns, quite simply, lied to colleagues. The fact that, as a senator and a member of the Senate Committee on Armed forces of the USA, as well as being a member of the election team of Trump, Seshns twice face to face with Kislyak met in his office room.

    It is hard to imagine that Trump was not aware of talks of members of his election to the Russian team, or why and were in secret talks with the Russian ambassador. I doubt that Donald Trump will be able to wriggle out of the lungs is not forthcoming issues for him, and even more convincingly explain these facts.


3.2.17.



Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: KingScorpio on March 08, 2019, 11:47:36 AM
what do you want to say with this?

that putin is brilliant and controlls the white house?

i think rather that the white house has simply continued its trend towards idiocity


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Spendulus on March 09, 2019, 11:52:33 PM
....violating the rules of registration as a foreign agent - before working with Trump, he worked for the ex-president of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych. ....

And everyone knew it. It's been repeatedly reported in newspapers and media. Wasn't concealed or any kind of secret.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: TECSHARE on March 10, 2019, 01:44:34 AM
....violating the rules of registration as a foreign agent - before working with Trump, he worked for the ex-president of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych. ....

And everyone knew it. It's been repeatedly reported in newspapers and media. Wasn't concealed or any kind of secret.

Its almost like this was part of his job... oh wait... it was.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Beerwizzard on March 13, 2019, 07:51:41 AM
I remember the hysteria of Democrats during the previous US elections where they were claiming that Trump is a Russian spy and he is totally controlled by Putin.
Now when the time is coming to the next elections we gonna see more of such news. Just wait and you will see in newspapers that Trump is a Putin's android or even Putin by himself with tons of make-up (and the real Trump is held somewhere in the basement of the white house).


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: markstivn98 on March 13, 2019, 03:10:37 PM
Does this mean that Putin is in control of Russia and America at the same time?
 Trump has no presence. Or any political decision.
The White House is under the control of  Trump without any control.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: KingScorpio on March 13, 2019, 04:19:39 PM
Does this mean that Putin is in control of Russia and America at the same time?
 Trump has no presence. Or any political decision.
The White House is under the control of  Trump without any control.

jes

thats what these conspiracy theorists want everyone to believe.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Daniel91 on March 13, 2019, 07:24:26 PM
Does this mean that Putin is in control of Russia and America at the same time?
 Trump has no presence. Or any political decision.
The White House is under the control of  Trump without any control.

I don't believe it.
But, I believe that Trump is not competent and capable to be US president.
He made many wrong choices and Putin is playing with him.
It's obvious that Trump follow his instincts and emotions and because of it he is dangerous for America and world.
He will destroy NATO and partnership with EU and this is great music for Putin's ears.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: KingScorpio on March 14, 2019, 10:31:02 AM
everywhere there is awareness and panic of russian power and influence

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/260344


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: squatz1 on March 14, 2019, 12:38:01 PM
People seem to forget, time and time again, that the crimes that Manafort was charged on (and found guilty on) charges that were completely unrelated to the Trump campaign. Headlines that say 'ex-trump chief' or something along the lines which makes the attempt to relate the two together are doing it for clicks and not for journalistic integrity.

All of his crimes relate to things that happened around the years of 2010-2013. Work that was done UNRELATED to the Trump campaign.

I think it's fair to entertain the argument that the Trump team may have done a bad job screening him, though I don't think him getting in trouble for a completely unrelated charge is the reason for someone to say that Trump is without a doubt a foreign agent due to this.

Here's a BBC quote explaining the charges he's been found guilty on:

Last week, a judge in Alexandria, Virginia, sentenced Manafort to nearly four years for hiding millions of dollars of income earned by his consulting work for pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Spendulus on March 19, 2019, 12:32:20 PM
People seem to forget, time and time again, that the crimes that Manafort was charged on (and found guilty on) charges that were completely unrelated to the Trump campaign. Headlines that say 'ex-trump chief' or something along the lines which makes the attempt to relate the two together are doing it for clicks and not for journalistic integrity.

All of his crimes relate to things that happened around the years of 2010-2013. Work that was done UNRELATED to the Trump campaign.

I think it's fair to entertain the argument that the Trump team may have done a bad job screening him, though I don't think him getting in trouble for a completely unrelated charge is the reason for someone to say that Trump is without a doubt a foreign agent due to this.

Here's a BBC quote explaining the charges he's been found guilty on:

Last week, a judge in Alexandria, Virginia, sentenced Manafort to nearly four years for hiding millions of dollars of income earned by his consulting work for pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine.

Manafort was involved with the Trump campaign from March thru August of 2016. It's pretty clear that when it became apparent that he had some issues, he was removed from that job. So to me it looks like Trump did everything RIGHT.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/timeline-paul-manaforts-role-trump-campaign/story?id=50808957

 The Associated Press reported Aug. 18 that Manafort's firm had lobbied in the United States on behalf of the ruling Ukrainian political party even though Manafort did not disclose his work as a foreign agent, as mandated by federal law.
Aug. 19, 2016
Manafort's departure from the campaign came the next day. On Aug. 19, Trump released a statement confirming Manafort's exit and praising his work on the campaign.
"This morning Paul Manafort offered, and I accepted, his resignation from the campaign,” Trump said in the statement. “I am very appreciative for his great work in helping to get us where we are today, and in particular his work guiding us through the delegate and convention process. Paul is a true professional and I wish him the greatest success.”


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: squatz1 on March 19, 2019, 06:45:43 PM
People seem to forget, time and time again, that the crimes that Manafort was charged on (and found guilty on) charges that were completely unrelated to the Trump campaign. Headlines that say 'ex-trump chief' or something along the lines which makes the attempt to relate the two together are doing it for clicks and not for journalistic integrity.

All of his crimes relate to things that happened around the years of 2010-2013. Work that was done UNRELATED to the Trump campaign.

I think it's fair to entertain the argument that the Trump team may have done a bad job screening him, though I don't think him getting in trouble for a completely unrelated charge is the reason for someone to say that Trump is without a doubt a foreign agent due to this.

Here's a BBC quote explaining the charges he's been found guilty on:

Last week, a judge in Alexandria, Virginia, sentenced Manafort to nearly four years for hiding millions of dollars of income earned by his consulting work for pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine.

Manafort was involved with the Trump campaign from March thru August of 2016. It's pretty clear that when it became apparent that he had some issues, he was removed from that job. So to me it looks like Trump did everything RIGHT.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/timeline-paul-manaforts-role-trump-campaign/story?id=50808957

 The Associated Press reported Aug. 18 that Manafort's firm had lobbied in the United States on behalf of the ruling Ukrainian political party even though Manafort did not disclose his work as a foreign agent, as mandated by federal law.
Aug. 19, 2016
Manafort's departure from the campaign came the next day. On Aug. 19, Trump released a statement confirming Manafort's exit and praising his work on the campaign.
"This morning Paul Manafort offered, and I accepted, his resignation from the campaign,” Trump said in the statement. “I am very appreciative for his great work in helping to get us where we are today, and in particular his work guiding us through the delegate and convention process. Paul is a true professional and I wish him the greatest success.”

Well yes, exactly. He was removed when they learned, which is exacty that I'd like to see. I don't think its fair to paint President Trump (nor the rest of the administration) as Russian agents simply because of the fact that Manafort is in trouble due to work he did BEFORE the administration

People forget this part, and it's something I wanted to re-cement.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 20, 2019, 05:05:38 AM
I think that some decisions of President Tump have been driven by emotions, which, Putin is a very smart person, he can persuade in some way so that Trump can do some actions that he wants to take place, like OTAN. President Trump is a very intelligent person, in fact, his books are excellent, he has an exquisite financial education and his thinking about economic processes is great, but the decisions he makes do not favor him many times, in fact, what happened, It directly affects your reputation and credibility.

We must also add the series of internal problems he has with the congress, and his promise of the wall, this represents a fact that makes him seem very vulnerable to countries like Russia or China, where his political commitments at the time of his campaign to the Presidency , has relied on people who may have direct links with Russia, like this one that is currently mentioned.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Spendulus on March 22, 2019, 02:22:33 PM
....

Well yes, exactly. He was removed when they learned, which is exacty that I'd like to see. I don't think its fair to paint President Trump (nor the rest of the administration) as Russian agents simply because of the fact that Manafort is in trouble due to work he did BEFORE the administration

People forget this part, and it's something I wanted to re-cement.

Not exactly. People are being hammered by the media continually and their thinking is based on facts presented. The fact that he was removed isn't one of the facts that people are provided.

"Manafort was Trump's campaign manager."

This is purposeful lying by omission.     


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: ASHLIUSZ on March 25, 2019, 05:42:41 AM
Finally the judgment on the issue has come to an end with the hands of trump risen. The summary has been given on the BBC news portal Reference : https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-47688187 (https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-47688187)


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: MadmanAmazon on March 25, 2019, 07:18:02 PM
Let’s talk about Israel’s hand at the White House. Not Putin’s. Don’t fall into that distraction!