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Title: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: marlboroza on March 09, 2019, 08:24:49 PM
Website: http://www.paulownia.online
Forum profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2480816

No team.
No whitepaper.
No nothing except "give me your money".
Zero risk investment model.

https://i.imgur.com/nNsNxAc.png

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This is very easy.
Simply register a FREE account in paulownia.online and make a deposit.
Choose the investment plan: seeds, seedlings, biomass or kiri wood.
Withdraw your earned PAU to your ERC20 wallet.
Now you will can sell or reinvest your PAU.


Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: ICOEthics on March 09, 2019, 09:05:38 PM
200% per month ROI is possible only in scammer's world.


Their website shows:

https://i.imgur.com/C2bkfCY.png


But the number of transactions from Etherscan and Ethxplorer: Zero ETH in sales.


https://i.imgur.com/PotsOqo.png


Title: Re:paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: TryNinja on March 09, 2019, 10:40:20 PM
Go away, scammer.

Why does your website show 100 deposits while your ETH contract address had 0 transactions on it? [1] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118810.msg50092286#msg50092286)


Title: Re:paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: paulowni on March 09, 2019, 10:50:31 PM
First of all, do not insult me that I have not insulted you and never cheated anyone.
If you insult me at least do it to the face like men.
I recommend that you look at the website before you speak and that explains everything there.
The return is greater than 200% monthly in the case of seedlings and seeds.
a seed of $ 0.0001 of value becomes a $ 2.50 seedling in less than 2 months !!!
We have to subtract taxes and there is still a much greater return than you mention.

In any case, for biomass and kiri wood to be profitable, it is necessary to make large plantations, otherwise I would not need investors!



My website shows deposits, referrals and users when I did the tests to see that everything works OK.

I did not plan to launch a site without first proving that the script works.

At the moment of internet only 4 people signed up, but from the street we are already people participating in this, the idea of the internet was to reach higher and get more production.

Nothing else. How would you then uster to raise funds for the project? since it is so smart ....

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Title: Re:paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: ICOEthics on March 09, 2019, 11:10:50 PM

You are running a PONZI scheme and instead of answering the accusation on the Original thread against you, you decided to create one topic against the person that created the scam accusation against you.

Answer on the thread that is accusing you of a SCAM/PONZI. Otherwise create another thread against ICOEthics as well, because we also gave you a red trust because nobody should trust a business with such high ROI.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118810.0



Title: Re:paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: paulowni on March 09, 2019, 11:15:03 PM

I created a new theme because the script would not let me respond, because I'm a rookie I think it was.

Rookie?? are you some experts or what?

If you think ROI is too high ...
A friend of mine works in wind farms, I do not need to tell him more, right?


Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: ICOEthics on March 09, 2019, 11:18:47 PM
"rookie" created a new thread. I asked him to reply here.

I created a new theme because the script would not let me respond, because I'm a rookie I think it was.
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User   Date   Risked BTC amount   Reference   Comments
marlboroza   2019-03-09   0.00000000   Reference   ponzi scammer.


What????


what is it based on to make such a claim?

You can come in person, if you want and if you dare, of course.

a seed of paulownia costs less than $ 0.01 and in less than two years it acquires a value of $ 15 !!!

Find out about prices of kiri wood and pellet for biomass before saying so.

We are in Spain
Province: LUGO
State: Galicia
Address:
Calle Quiroga n-46 ETLO
27003 LUGO

where are you?

By the way, white paper is a fad or what?

We have white paper but I used it for toilet paper, for the ass. Are you worth it?




I created a new theme because the script would not let me respond, because I'm a rookie I think it was.
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I reposted your first post on this thread.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118810.0
There is a button on the bottom left, lock this topic please and continue there.


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Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: paulowni on March 09, 2019, 11:41:10 PM
Thanks for the publicity anyway.

As my grandfather used to say ... all advertising is good!


Title: Re:paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: marlboroza on March 09, 2019, 11:42:18 PM
a seed of paulownia costs less than $ 0.01 and in less than two years it acquires a value of $ 15 !!!
Send me your btc address and I'll give you 1$.

In a 2 years you will have 1500$.


Unfortunately for you, I will invest another dollar in your site and reinvest every month for next 2 years.

So you will have to give me 16 million dollars back  :D


Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: tmfp on March 10, 2019, 12:01:59 AM
Thanks for the publicity anyway.

As my grandfather used to say ... all advertising is good!

Maybe, but the only publicity you are getting here is for offering ponzi levels of ROI which, in this world, means you are fake: a scammer.
IF you were an authentic Paulownia grower (quite an interesting business from five minutes of Googling (https://www.wegrow.de/en/references.html)) and presumably own the land on which to grow them, why on Earth would you need to go to all this crypto token nonsense and pay crazy interest rates? Euro financiers would be fighting to lend you money far, far cheaper.



And if you lose your temper and start posting silly threads like this one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118852), all that's going to happen is you are going to get thrown out of here.


Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: paulowni on March 10, 2019, 12:09:24 AM
Because of the way you talk, you must be that you do not live in Spain like me.
The idea of the tokens is so that the participations are decentralized, if you have to pay taxes for all movements I assure you that there is not even half the benefit.

Come to Spain and see what we pay taxes!



I do not know what you intend with all this but I do not care, the paulownias are going to plant yes or yes because they are ready, if you do not want to enter then do not enter, but do not invent anything, do not lie about me and do not speak with ignorance.

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Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: tmfp on March 10, 2019, 12:18:17 AM
Because of the way you talk, you must be that you do not live in Spain like me.
The idea of the tokens is so that the participations are decentralized, if you have to pay taxes for all movements I assure you that there is not even half the benefit.

Come to Spain and see what we pay taxes!

Hmmm, so it would be a sort of Black (Economy) Forest then?  ;D (English joke)


Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: paulowni on March 10, 2019, 12:30:31 AM
it's not exactly that, it's that I did not intend to make a contract because you invest 1 dollar, since it costs much more the notary and the lawyer.


Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: tmfp on March 10, 2019, 12:54:51 AM

Your telephone number, on your website, is +1-844-247-0129.
+1 is the Code for Canada, +34 is the code for Spain.


Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: paulowni on March 10, 2019, 01:01:42 AM
It is a free international number.
They are available online from $ 0.
Anyway, I already anticipate that nobody is going to take those calls in principle.

we speak Spanish



if you want something else to attack me, I'll tell you that the same script that I use in php has been used by many to make scams.

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Title: Re:paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: marlboroza on March 10, 2019, 02:11:03 AM
I do not know what you intend with all this but I do not care, the paulownias are going to plant yes or yes because they are ready, if you do not want to enter then do not enter, but do not invent anything, do not lie about me and do not speak with ignorance.
But I have just told you that I want to enter with 1$, didn't I?

I want to buy seeds and reinvest that 1$ every month for next 2 years and become very rich.

Because at paulownia - money literally grows on trees  ;D  ;D  :-*


Title: Re:paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: paulowni on March 10, 2019, 02:22:26 AM
200% ROI - Maximum:  PAU 5 (0.50$) <-- with that you already get rich?
150% ROI (2 times) (2 months) -  Maximum:  PAU 100 (10$)
20% roi - Maximum 1000 PAU
12% roi  - Maximum PAU 10000 (1000$)

limits per user.
Multiple accounts are not allowed.

etoro also gives you 100% of your first deposit.

But up to a limit.

I can not sell tons of seeds, but I do sell kilos every year.


Title: Re:paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: marlboroza on March 10, 2019, 02:49:41 AM
200% ROI - Maximum:  PAU 5 (0.50$) <-- with that you already get rich?
150% ROI (2 times) (2 months) -  Maximum:  PAU 100 (10$)
20% roi - Maximum 1000 PAU
12% roi  - Maximum PAU 10000 (1000$)

limits per user.
Multiple accounts are not allowed.

I can not sell tons of seeds, but I do sell kilos every year.
I thought you are looking for investors for serious business.
You want to limit investor to half dollar?
Any serious investor here who wants to invest 0.5$ and make 1$?  :D
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Multiple accounts are not allowed.
I don't see this rule is stated in your ToS which you don't have btw so it doesn't apply.


Title: Re:paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: The Cryptovator on March 10, 2019, 04:59:04 AM
What a poor concept to raise money. How will you pay this hight ROI ? No doubts you will rotate money between users for few days and eventually you will skip with remaining fund. We have seen lot of scheme like you, but eventually they all gone. So no way to trust you and your project as well. Go somewhere else and promote your projects.


Title: Re:paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: nutildah on March 10, 2019, 05:12:37 AM
I like how this guy started his own Scam Accusation. I think that's got to be a first.

By the way, white paper is a fad or what?

We have white paper but I used it for toilet paper, for the ass. Are you worth it?

Great to see somebody with such respect for academia and the business proposal process.


Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: DireWolfM14 on March 10, 2019, 05:41:50 AM
if you want something else to attack me, I'll tell you that the same script that I use in php has been used by many to make scams.

I agree.  In fact a few months ago someone was offering a website just like yours as collateral for a loan, while also trying to sell the site.  His reward was a lot of red paint, too. 

Maybe you should start using your skills to find legitimate work, because you suck as a scammer. 


Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: coolcoinz on March 10, 2019, 02:17:13 PM
Come to Spain and see what we pay taxes!

You can't be serious. You want him to travel to your (most likely fake) location to check if the business is registered or not? What would that prove? Plenty of fake businesses register all around the world, rent a space in office buildings and act like they're a big international company with hundreds of employees and in reality it's John and Jill posting from their 1 bedroom apartment. Want a recent example? Here's Bitcoin fund manager. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb5BAOkO2IA) His account got nuked, but he kept going for a year.

Taxes are due once a year, if you scam people today you'll be obliged to pay in 2020. By that time you'll be long gone. Most scam websites run for less than 6 months and disappear.


Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: paulowni on March 10, 2019, 09:43:32 PM
I have come to the conclusion that you are all crazy.
Do not you see that's too big for me?
It does not matter if no one comes from the internet, in fact my partners did not want me to publish this on the network.



Do you talk about fraud?
if they use cryptocurrencies!
are those fortnite points or what?
you have casinos (bticasino-io) that's a scam.
You can think what you want about me but I do not depend on you at all, this idea was to get "an extra", I do not give a shit if you sign up or not.
As I said the paulownias are going to be planted, and the company is real, it exists and it is not new for 1 day, but we have been with this project for 2 years.



Quote from: mirakal
This is a scam accusation and you are seeking help from the community that's why you posted here.
However, we cannot just rely on your statement, you should be able to show some proof for us to see and evaluate, that's the right procedure.

We like to see some proofs because it's easier for anyone to right anything against a site for whatever agenda it is you have.

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Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: cryptodevil on March 12, 2019, 11:44:21 AM

That 'investment model' is highly reminiscent of previous ponzi scam, such as recyclix:

http://i58.tinypic.com/oiyc0l.png[/quote]

Multiple 'modes' of keeping hold of investors suckers funds for as long as possible before exiting stage left with the accumulated loot.



Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: paulowni on March 12, 2019, 11:53:20 AM
Now it's free to participate, so have fun telling me where the scam is!


Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: DireWolfM14 on March 12, 2019, 04:02:51 PM
Now it's free to participate, so have fun telling me where the scam is!

Wow, free to participate?  Now that sounds like a winning combination.  What ROI will I get if I invest $0.00? 


Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: marlboroza on March 12, 2019, 05:00:11 PM
Now it's free to participate
Nah, it's not. You are still selling scam tokens and ponzi plan is operational.

Paulownia seems to be part of the "Trolling Scammers" group:
we already have white paper

http://paulownia.online/white-paper.pdf

more white impossible

to print pulse : Ctrl+P
It is literally white paper!


Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: paulowni on March 12, 2019, 05:25:31 PM
Now you can earn lots of PAU completely Free.
Only by filling in offers and carrying out surveys.
Disponible on Dashboard.

Of course it is a white paper
Is not that what they asked so much?


Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: DireWolfM14 on March 12, 2019, 08:33:58 PM
Of course it is a white paper
Is not that what they asked so much?

I must admit, you are one of the most entertaining scammers I've encountered in a long time.  But, I'd like to make a suggestion about your White Paper; It's too white.  I would prefer if it had a tinge of pink, maybe like marlboroza's stolen panties.  


Title: Re: paulownia very likely ponzi scheme
Post by: stompix on March 13, 2019, 02:26:41 AM
It is literally white paper!

I thought you were joking so I had to check....
So his guy really thought he should have a white (blank) paper on his website?  What's the purpose, napkin?

Of course it is a white paper
Is not that what they asked so much?

God, please, make him stop!!!!!
Out of curiosity, the blockchain is a bike chain full of lego blocks, right?

Oh, and btw, your image (that you stole) about pellet manufacture is about electricity generation via biomass.
Also, you accept PAU to buy PAU?  ;D ;D ;D