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Title: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: BitPwr on March 11, 2019, 01:20:40 AM
or Is there some group of smart people trying to make his own blockchain without fork?

Why some explorers show 16 btc balance when it should be 66 btc?

https://www.blockonomics.co/#/search?q=1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa

https://blockexplorer.com/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa



Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: joniboini on March 11, 2019, 01:42:14 AM
Probably block explorer glitch. Maybe they can't read input from segwit address. Even there's something like this, that doesn't mean satoshi is back. I think that's too far fetched.


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: pooya87 on March 11, 2019, 04:51:36 AM
it is simply because blockonomics website backend has decided to exclude the one and only transaction that is technically the first transaction that is the genesis block's coinbase transaction which is worth 50BTC and also is unspendable and is ignored even if you had the key to 1A1zP... address and tried spending that transaction output. so it is showing the balance of that address minus the 50BTC and it has received 16.92683950BTC in the past 10 years for some reason!


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: fiulpro on March 11, 2019, 07:41:29 AM
Why would only nakamato could do this ?
Bitcoins is not something that is soley owned by one person.
And first of all I think that I don't support the fact that he was gone either  :) I mean why would you make the Bitcoin network invisible? This is a unexpected thing he could have easily used here.

Watching from the sidelines ( if there was a nakamato) , and waiting for the big run.

I personally don't think that nakamato is one person , it's a group of people because no one human can do this much to be honest.

Just a theory 😂


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: awawo on March 11, 2019, 10:08:35 AM
I believe that is a technical glitches and even at that new explorer can also do this, bitcoin as a decentralized entity does not depends on Nakamoto alone it development is revolving and at that new developer's can be responsible for that haschcash. Let just keep watching with time we will know what really is responsible for that.


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: vit05 on March 12, 2019, 09:08:44 PM
it is simply because blockonomics website backend has decided to exclude the one and only transaction that is technically the first transaction that is the genesis block's coinbase transaction which is worth 50BTC and also is unspendable and is ignored even if you had the key to 1A1zP... address and tried spending that transaction output. so it is showing the balance of that address minus the 50BTC and it has received 16.92683950BTC in the past 10 years for some reason!

Is there any way to know if they ignore some other bitcoin? Is it just the Genesis block? This detail becomes clear after a little thought, but it would be interesting to put this information as a warning.

https://www.blockchain.com/pt/btc/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: MakeMoneyBtc on March 12, 2019, 10:55:40 PM
Satoshi is not back and he will probably never be and that's because if he didn't do it until now he is not going to do it ever. Even if Satoshi still uses bitcoin and there is a very high chance of him doing that I am sure he is smart enough to not leave any trace behind, especially such an obvious transaction that was easily found.


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: pooya87 on March 13, 2019, 06:42:39 AM
it is simply because blockonomics website backend has decided to exclude the one and only transaction that is technically the first transaction that is the genesis block's coinbase transaction which is worth 50BTC and also is unspendable and is ignored even if you had the key to 1A1zP... address and tried spending that transaction output. so it is showing the balance of that address minus the 50BTC and it has received 16.92683950BTC in the past 10 years for some reason!

Is there any way to know if they ignore some other bitcoin? Is it just the Genesis block? This detail becomes clear after a little thought, but it would be interesting to put this information as a warning.

https://www.blockchain.com/pt/btc/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa

no there is not because it is a closed source website as far as i can tell so only the owners of the website know what they are really doing.
all we can do is speculate. and considering genesis block's coinbase transaction is unspendable as i explained above (enforced by the network) it makes sense that this is the only case they are ignoring.
and that should not make any difference for users since that doesn't concern them!


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: muslol67 on March 13, 2019, 09:19:15 AM
or Is there some group of smart people trying to make his own blockchain without fork?

Why some explorers show 16 btc balance when it should be 66 btc?

https://www.blockonomics.co/#/search?q=1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa

https://blockexplorer.com/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa



NO! NO! NO!

He won't come back! If he'll come, be sure he'll post in this blog and we'll be know.

He tried to create complete decentralized system. I guess he is not here because of that.


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: AAKODI on March 13, 2019, 11:42:43 AM
This is not a work by the founder of Bitcoin and I doubt Satoshi Nakamoto will ever come back specially when Bitcoin price is dropping but due to technological advancements and many Blockchain experts in the cryptocurrency world inventing and implementing such things can be possible and I think this is great work by anyone who wants to do some great change


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: Haunebu on March 13, 2019, 11:54:48 AM
Honestly, don't you people get tired of this whole 'Who is Satoshi and where is he?' drama?

At this point, even if the real Satoshi actually reveals himself/herself, most people might not actually believe it since there are so many fakes these days claiming to be Satoshi for obvious reasons.


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: septi.JR on March 18, 2019, 04:39:34 PM
Nakamoto is a pseudonym, I'm not sure if he really will appear, many people claim that at Satoshi Nakamoto, however I don't believe


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: Perunex on April 05, 2019, 10:41:35 AM
Nakamoto is not back. Period. Leave him be. He gave the humanity such a beautiful gift and wanted to stay anonymous for obvious reasons. Even if he wanted to stay anonymous because he is introverted or something it is completely his decision and we should all respect that!


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: Wind_FURY on April 05, 2019, 10:57:23 AM
OP, if Craig Wright to you is Satoshi Nakamoto, then yes, he's back! Back with an attack!

https://coinspice.io/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/craigwrightbitcoin-1200x600.jpg

Look at that Satoshi-like smile, and that confidence. He must be the father of Bitcoin. Haters deal with it. 8)


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: rjp55 on April 05, 2019, 11:55:54 AM
I think he won't come back.

But i can't stop wondering, what would happen someday satoshi nakamoto comes back and posts something. What would be the effect?


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: muslol67 on April 05, 2019, 01:02:13 PM


I personally don't think that nakamato is one person , it's a group of people because no one human can do this much to be honest.



So many people has so many theories. But there is only one fact! It is there is no Satoshi in here anymore. And probably he will never come back.


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: judeafante on April 05, 2019, 01:05:12 PM
or Is there some group of smart people trying to make his own blockchain without fork?

Why some explorers show 16 btc balance when it should be 66 btc?

https://www.blockonomics.co/#/search?q=1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa

https://blockexplorer.com/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa



Both addresses are showing the same balance now, I think it was corrected and going back to Nakamoto, I hope he'll never come back for Bitcoin's sake and his safety, let him remain anonymous until the Bitcoin worldwide adoption happens, this is not the right time for him to come back.


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: ||bit on April 05, 2019, 02:57:28 PM
I think he won't come back.

But i can't stop wondering, what would happen someday satoshi nakamoto comes back and posts something. What would be the effect?

 :D

Think about that, he comes back to the forum and makes a post about some shitcoin (around 1m $ or so) has the real vision of Satoshi. That would be fun to watch. Even McAfee did create crazy pumps, i wonder what would have been with Satoshi.


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: traderethereum on April 05, 2019, 03:30:16 PM
I don't think he comes back again, but if he already comes back, he can easily to move the first wallet he has to another wallet and maybe he will send his bitcoin amount to all exchanges so he can sell some amount and take the profit ;D
Satoshi Nakamoto still hiding in one place and he still watching on what's happening with bitcoin, but we cannot force him to come out and show himself.


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: diazepam666 on April 05, 2019, 06:09:58 PM
or Is there some group of smart people trying to make his own blockchain without fork?

Why some explorers show 16 btc balance when it should be 66 btc?

https://www.blockonomics.co/#/search?q=1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa

https://blockexplorer.com/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa



Both addresses are showing the same balance now, I think it was corrected and going back to Nakamoto, I hope he'll never come back for Bitcoin's sake and his safety, let him remain anonymous until the Bitcoin worldwide adoption happens, this is not the right time for him to come back.

He will will not expose him to secure the crypto market. This address might any error persisted on explorer which he used. May need to use some other or check the wallet balance properly before you check it.
For this reason why took the name of Satoshi. I really don't know why.


Title: Re: Is Nakamoto back?
Post by: maldini on April 05, 2019, 06:29:03 PM
Probably block explorer glitch. Maybe they can't read input from segwit address. Even there's something like this, that doesn't mean satoshi is back. I think that's too far fetched.
It's true that sometimes explorer blocks make errors in the system, I often experience things like this.