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Title: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: alvipalangka on March 14, 2019, 03:00:08 AM
Hey all wise bounty hunters ... I am here to ask quite important ... in the world of krypto it is difficult to find a scammer ...
 what if we are accused of being a scammer and we are banned from bounty ... what is the best solution. ...
1. Do we only accept and not follow the project again
2. do we have to show evidence that we are innocent
3. Do we accept input from other bounty hunters

wapinter always accuses ... because he has taken my wpp token ... by accusing it he has mastered my token ...


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: CryptoBry on March 14, 2019, 03:11:45 AM


Proving yourself not to be a scammer here and in any platform because you are sure you are not can just be a big waste of time as those people who are accusing you are not living on the same neighborhood so reaching them can be taking a good amount of time and they may not be prone to give you another chance. So why not just look for another project that can be working with you. I am sure you can find another fish in this vast ocean. The most important thing is that you are sure you have not scammed anybody here and anywhere. Sadly, scamming is getting so popular in the cryptocurrency industry which is affecting partly its dreamed widespread adoption and utilization. The industry should be doing concrete actions and solutions on this problem.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: Innerpumper on March 14, 2019, 05:00:48 AM
Hey all wise bounty hunters ... I am here to ask quite important ... in the world of krypto it is difficult to find a scammer ...
 what if we are accused of being a scammer and we are banned from bounty ... what is the best solution. ...
1. Do we only accept and not follow the project again
2. do we have to show evidence that we are innocent
3. Do we accept input from other bounty hunters
Please do not feel offended by it, because a bounter is familiar with such a thing, disregard it, just little things there must be people who membeci you let alone in a big thing, the more you go against what they allege to you the more you suspected. You should also appreciate the other bounter players, if you do not want to accused of, because I know all the bounter here have self-respect, and don't like to be abused, hope you learn better in communicating.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: Lumi3004 on March 14, 2019, 05:20:18 AM
If this happens scamer and if you are accused or already in a scam, consequently, there are various mild or severe.
For example, the light one: in my opinion must be taken as point number (2), to prove that you are innocent, this must be accompanied by your valid proof,
but if it is heavy, it is difficult to possibly be able to take part in the project again can it be able to be strictly prohibited and marked.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: Kakmakr on March 14, 2019, 05:25:40 AM
Let's forget for one moment about the Bounty campaign membership and just look at the consequences of a scenario where you are labelled as a scammer and where you are innocent. I will defend my honour and innocence without a doubt, if I am innocent and I do not need a reason to do that.

You do not need a reputation of being a scammer and all the negativity that comes from that. You will get negative trust and people will not respect your opinion on any subject.

Stay away from scam projects if you know it is a scam.  >:(


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: demenBTC on March 14, 2019, 06:17:35 AM
Hey all wise bounty hunters ... I am here to ask quite important ... in the world of krypto it is difficult to find a scammer ...
 what if we are accused of being a scammer and we are banned from bounty ... what is the best solution. ...
1. Do we only accept and not follow the project again
2. do we have to show evidence that we are innocent
3. Do we accept input from other bounty hunters
accusation as a cheater for no apparent reason. I think it's just a misunderstanding, if we are right, why should we be quiet, we have the right to appeal with clear evidence that we are not fraudsters


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: ralle14 on March 14, 2019, 06:46:11 AM
When you're accused by someone you have to explain your side and the people will decide if the accusation is true or not.

For the bounty campaign it depends on the manager if their decision is final the best option is to move on and apply on a new bounty.  If you'd like to hear more opinions about your situation it's best to start a thread on the reputation board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0).


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: ice18 on March 14, 2019, 07:00:02 AM
You have to prove it that you are innocent and not a scammer but the question is how? otherwise you cannot do anything about it if the bounty manager decided to kick and disqualify you in the bounty programs, different bounty manager have different rules so next time please try to follow their rules to avoid such kind of problems.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: killat on March 14, 2019, 07:01:17 AM
Hey all wise bounty hunters ... I am here to ask quite important ... in the world of krypto it is difficult to find a scammer ...
 what if we are accused of being a scammer and we are banned from bounty ... what is the best solution. ...
1. Do we only accept and not follow the project again
2. do we have to show evidence that we are innocent
3. Do we accept input from other bounty hunters

To prove you're not a scammer you should:
- have a real team behind and offer visibility about it
- respect the milestones in the Whitepaper
- keep a frequent communication with the community


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: Babyrica0226 on March 14, 2019, 07:22:27 AM
Hey all wise bounty hunters ... I am here to ask quite important ... in the world of krypto it is difficult to find a scammer ...
 what if we are accused of being a scammer and we are banned from bounty ... what is the best solution. ...
1. Do we only accept and not follow the project again
2. do we have to show evidence that we are innocent
3. Do we accept input from other bounty hunters

If you are accused by someone here of being scammer, of course you have the rights to depend yourself in any complaint aspect.
First the accuser must prove that they have enough evidences against you. Then, it should have a witness also but in reality things happens most of the scammer here they are just only giving negative trust as a violation of their offense here.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: shamc on March 14, 2019, 07:37:49 AM
It depends on the accusation. If it is due to red trust then complain to the mod that gave it to you. If it's multi accounts on one bounty then leave it and join another campaign


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: Jating on March 14, 2019, 09:00:20 AM
Of course you have to defend your self if you are being accused right? So that will be the first step. And it's going to be he/she said against you, so you better prepare yourself to answer right away, point by point and show proof that what is throw in our way is not true.

So I would say go for your number 2 points and prove your innocence.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: pragna on March 14, 2019, 09:52:56 AM
Hey all wise bounty hunters ... I am here to ask quite important ... in the world of krypto it is difficult to find a scammer ...
 what if we are accused of being a scammer and we are banned from bounty ... what is the best solution. ...
1. Do we only accept and not follow the project again
2. do we have to show evidence that we are innocent
3. Do we accept input from other bounty hunters

I think if you are innocent you can give proven that you are not scammer and if you did scarm you should not do that campaign as you detected to manager you are victim. But i request to you not to do that.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: slaman29 on March 14, 2019, 10:19:29 AM
Hey all wise bounty hunters ... I am here to ask quite important ... in the world of krypto it is difficult to find a scammer ...
 what if we are accused of being a scammer and we are banned from bounty ... what is the best solution. ...
1. Do we only accept and not follow the project again
2. do we have to show evidence that we are innocent
3. Do we accept input from other bounty hunters

Whenever your reputation is at stake, I always advice to have your say. Ask for the allegations and then answer them. But always be polite and courteous. It doesn't matter what they decide at the end, it matters that there is evidence of what they said and what your defence is. Then people can decide for themselves who is right or wrong.

In my experience, most bounty hunters who were found were probably cheating, and they fight very hard to show they are innocent but something always gives them away. Some were wrong but didn't mean it, but that's still wrong.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: MFahad on March 14, 2019, 10:40:09 AM
Have you faced the scammer? If your answer is No, then you don't care about scammers. And if you are faces the scammers then see what is wrong with you. you don't need to trust to anyone. Secondly no one say that he is scammer and you have no prove that he is scammer. If you have fear then forget it and leave the work with bounty hunters.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: palle11 on March 14, 2019, 10:52:40 AM
Being labelled as a scammer is one negative thing that will turn you against other members in the forum. It dints your image especially when you are sincerely innocent. You should run away from whatever that will connect you or lead you to scamming, its repercussion is quite heavy and to prove you are innocent is quite difficult.

However, if you have a prove against the allegation, you can raise a trade at the reputation board.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: pat4cryptoreal on March 14, 2019, 10:54:24 AM
Do not keep quiet and leave the project. You have to show evidence that we are innocent especially if your accusation of being scammer was declared publicly.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: kryptqnick on March 14, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
I agree with those who say that you should express your view of the events. If you feel that you acted in a right way is a difficult situation, you should respond to the public scam accusation or make your own post in the Reputation board if nobody did it before. Be polite and respond on active basis. Provide screenshots and other relevant things to prove your innocense. If the public still decides that you made a wrong decision, there might still be a way to get out of it by, say, paying out the money you did not pay or something like that. Don't lie and share the relevant information. This forum does not tolerate scammers, but if someone made a false accusation against you, you shpuld definitely defend yourself.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: Erickan on March 14, 2019, 11:48:28 AM
You have to prove it that you are innocent and not a scammer but the question is how? otherwise you cannot do anything about it if the bounty manager decided to kick and disqualify you in the bounty programs, different bounty manager have different rules so next time please try to follow their rules to avoid such kind of problems.

Sometimes there is confusion from the bounty managers, because there are many scammers and sometimes they are also mistaken and accused of innocent people. Verification will take a long time but it is necessary, but in case it takes too much time you should choose another campaign.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: meanwords on March 14, 2019, 11:57:12 AM
If you are accused of something, you probably did something that caused that because it's not like Bounty managers are going to ban you for nothing. If it's a false claim, prove it with solid facts and evidence. Just redeem yourself by being quality-oriented. After redeeming yourself, move on with another project.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: libert19 on March 14, 2019, 01:06:30 PM
I will go with 1st one, most of projects don't usually care about bounty hunters (personal experience) so no matter how many evidence you show, it won't work.

There are some nice projects out there though :)


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: Duzter on March 14, 2019, 01:22:46 PM
When one is accused of being a scammer, it is one's own responsibility to prove him as the trusted person. If one didn't take any action to prove, then it is like agreeing that he's a scammer. Scamming is quite common in the crypto world, but to attain user needs to be very cautious.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: joeperry on March 14, 2019, 02:09:42 PM
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1. Do we only accept and not follow the project again
If you're banned already then you can't do anything about it, most of the bounty managers don't have time to make up or to entertain you especially if you're already accused as a scammer whether it's true or not.
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2. do we have to show evidence that we are innocent
If you can contact the bounty manager or he/she asked you to show some evidence or if you have an open accusation in Scam accusation board: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 you can send their directly your evidence and let the older or DT members conduct their judgement against you.
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3. Do we accept input from other bounty hunters
It depends if that bounty hunter is a reliable or trusted member of the forum. But anyone can put a negative or positive feedback on your account but only those who're reliable will be accepted (I mean the trust rating will only reflect in your profile if the one who puts in there is a reliable user, for what i've known.)


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: edisystem on March 14, 2019, 02:23:07 PM
Collect all your evidence that can prove you are innocent and after that make a thread about it on scam accusations.

Wait until the bounty manager reply, and also ask DT member to check your thread too.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: Sithawaka on March 14, 2019, 02:34:28 PM
If some ICO banned you claiming you are a scammer the only way to face the situation is through providing correct information to prove innocence but if this won't work still there is nothing to get worry because in this crypto world there are plenty of work you can do than participating in a bounty like trading cryptocurrencies and investing in ICO projects which can be very profitable and fun than doing a bounty


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: Sebas.tian on March 14, 2019, 02:51:39 PM
It is a case by case basis. If you got labelled as one after you did the work and they refuse to compensate, you should fight back. Time spent working are valuable after all. Otherwise, you don't need validation from somebody else as long as you know the truth; just walk away. 


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: harapan on March 14, 2019, 02:52:22 PM
prove validly that you are indeed not a scammer, maybe it's just a misunderstanding. you only need to provide proof.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: cfif123 on March 14, 2019, 03:43:54 PM
I will go with 1st one, most of projects don't usually care about bounty hunters (personal experience) so no matter how many evidence you show, it won't work.

There are some nice projects out there though :)
reporting to the authorities and completing the existing criminal law is enough that it is finished for me and fair


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: abyan@83 on March 16, 2019, 01:01:43 AM
Don't be easy to despair! because many of them only see with one eye, just ignore someone that likes to mock us, for it remains strong.


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: coolcoinz on March 16, 2019, 03:57:49 PM
I will go with 1st one, most of projects don't usually care about bounty hunters (personal experience) so no matter how many evidence you show, it won't work.

There are some nice projects out there though :)
reporting to the authorities and completing the existing criminal law is enough that it is finished for me and fair

Reporting what? That you were scammed by a bounty manager who promised to pay you certain amount of his worthless ICO tokens and disappeared without doing so?

This is how I imagine your conversation with the police will look.
Is this the police? I want to report a scam! Some anonymous person on a forum told me that I'd get $50 worth of his tokens if I translated his white paper and... What is a white paper? It's a text meant to describe an altcoin project that... What's an altcoin? You won't write the report because I wasn't promised real money and I don't have his name and address? But he's a scammer!
If you are the manager and it's a bounty hunter that tries to scam you the conversation will be even better, since breaking forum rules is not a criminal offence.
What are you going to complain on to the authorities? Getting banned?


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: Wapinter on May 11, 2019, 09:42:13 PM
Hey all wise bounty hunters ... I am here to ask quite important ... in the world of krypto it is difficult to find a scammer ...
 what if we are accused of being a scammer and we are banned from bounty ... what is the best solution. ...
1. Do we only accept and not follow the project again
2. do we have to show evidence that we are innocent
3. Do we accept input from other bounty hunters
You lie to reserve Malaysian language in every bounty campaign.You lied to me also and reserved wpp and other bounty translations from me.Luckily,due to alertness of one forum member,I found out your lie before distribution of tokens.You are an Indonesian but you claim to be Malaysian,
You are constantly bugging me on telegram to release your rewards.I asked you to prove to me that you are malaysian native speaker to which you sent me this fake photo from google https://images.app.goo.gl/5urYzjV3QScBw8Ej6.
Beware of this scammer everyone
Proof 1.Someone please confirm is it Indonesian https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2630394.msg29496504#msg29496504
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2622521.msg29420370#msg29420370
3. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2888834.msg30418945#msg30418945 On his facebook profile https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009641567753 it is mentioned he lives in Indonesian city Palangkaraya

https://i.imgur.com/kXuJFs6.png

I can provide many more but I think these are enough to tag him


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: Wapinter on May 12, 2019, 01:35:02 AM
wapinter always accuses ... because he has taken my wpp token ... by accusing it he has mastered my token ...
he wants to master my wpp token ... because my wpp token is expensive
That sadistic human ... a lot of money still takes people's rights
First off i dont have any tokens.Wpp team did distribution not me.Second I can ask them to release your token if you can prove that you are a native malaysian translator.
If you are an indonesian,you should not have reserved malaysian language


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: Lafu on May 12, 2019, 11:07:10 AM
Bye , bye OP !

Orginal:


From : https://w.worldcoinindex.com/th/ico/calendar/crowd-machine (https://w.worldcoinindex.com/th/ico/calendar/crowd-machine)
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Crowd Machine is an advanced distributed computer.
Embedded within the computer is an app development engine that requires no coding, enabling anyone to create decentralized apps and smart contracts without limitation and up to 45x faster.

Archive:  https://archive.fo/QWrxJ (https://archive.fo/QWrxJ)

Copy:

Crowd Machine is an advanced distributed computer.
Embedded within the computer is an app development engine that requires no coding, enabling anyone to create decentralized apps and smart contracts without limitation.

Archive:
https://archive.fo/8xcVT (https://archive.fo/8xcVT)


Title: Re: what is the solution if we are accused of being a scammer?
Post by: blurryeyed on May 12, 2019, 12:03:15 PM
You have to prove it that you are innocent and not a scammer but the question is how?

Not promoting scams like bountyhive in your profile would be a good place to start.

Thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2809836.msg50008067#msg50008067

Is OP colorlessk still banned? How many times?