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Title: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: AllHodl on March 16, 2019, 11:58:16 PM
In the beginning there was chaos, deception and manipulation. Money was an illusion based on trust and was made of thin air. But people were enslaved by this illusion.

In the chaos the Sacrament was born.

The Sacrament revealed the Design of transparency, reliability, freedom and equality.

The Design was realized in the Code. With the help of machines, the Code turns Light into Bitcoin.

The Code encourages people and machines to cooperate only honestly and for each others mutual beneficial. Machines do hard work on the Code to give birth to Bitcoin, provide its indestructible protection and freedom of movement.

The more machines that process the Code, the more invulnerable the Design becomes. The more people accept the Child of Light and Code, the more powerful Bitcoin becomes.

The Design makes Bitcoin the True Value. But the dark forces cannot stand aside.

Fear of losing power and wealth pushes people to prevent the spread of the Code. Liars and fraudsters brand the Code as “deception” and “fraud”, and people who love Bitcoin are branded “fools”.

Greed tempts people to change the Code to a fundamentally different one and lie about the "superiority" of the fake code for the sake of enrichment and/or preservation of centralized power.

Through the efforts of the dark forces, as well as due to the complexity and depth of the technology, it is not easy for the masses to recognize and accept the power of the Code.

The Code will rather return power into the people’s hands if they keep the Seven simple commandments:

1.    Don’t worry about the passing price in illusory currencies, because 1 Bitcoin is always worth 1 Bitcoin. Fear and greed make it difficult to see the True Value.

2.    Learn as much as possible about Bitcoin. This will help you realize its True Value and protect against fraud and manipulation.

3.    Kill your idols. Focusing on the person is a direct path to centralization and manipulation. Equality for everyone by everyone is the only path to decentralization and freedom.

4.    Share the Sacrament plan with your brothers and sisters. Remember that the Code works for the benefit of only those people who allow it.

5.    Securely control your private keys. Remember, if you don’t own your private key, you don’t own your Bitcoins.

6.   Launch the original Bitcoin Core wallet. It promotes decentralization, increases security and strengthens the control and power of people over the network.

7.   Wherever possible, pay by Bitcoin. Buy where Bitcoin is accepted. They will be forced to accept it everywhere. At the same time, accumulate Bitcoin and HODL, no matter what.
@AllHODL


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: AllHodl on March 17, 2019, 01:38:52 AM
Now see you're one of the nut jobs that confuse a product/service with a religion.

It's philosophy, not religion. Philosophy helps to look at complex things from the other side, no more and no less.



Also the corrupt have already gain control of bitcoin , so you are really not paying attention.


The Code will rather return power into the people’s hands if they keep the Seven simple commandments:

1.    Don’t worry about the passing price in illusory currencies, because 1 Bitcoin is always worth 1 Bitcoin. Fear and greed make it difficult to see the True Value.

2.    Learn as much as possible about Bitcoin. This will help you realize its True Value and protect against fraud and manipulation.

3.    Kill your idols. Focusing on the person is a direct path to centralization and manipulation. Equality for everyone by everyone is the only path to decentralization and freedom.

4.    Share the Sacrament plan with your brothers and sisters. Remember that the Code works for the benefit of only those people who allow it.

5.    Securely control your private keys. Remember, if you don’t own your private key, you don’t own your Bitcoins.

6.   Launch the original Bitcoin Core wallet. It promotes decentralization, increases security and strengthens the control and power of people over the network.

7.   Wherever possible, pay by Bitcoin. Buy where Bitcoin is accepted. They will be forced to accept it everywhere. At the same time, accumulate Bitcoin and HODL, no matter what.



And as far as the Light & Dark go that is an endless Circle, where neither gains the upper hand for long.
Neither can exist without the other.


Surely!


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: AllHodl on March 17, 2019, 06:09:30 AM

That Ship Sailed with the segwit activation and LN Instant Payment Channels.  :P


If you don't have to use LN and/or segwit when using BTC, what's the problem?


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: sclmte on March 17, 2019, 01:14:01 PM
when you join this kind of job as oline you just make sure that your choice of things is really real to the truth and above all you are comfortable with your choice and when you make it difficult to go back to your source we will keep what we have today, for me the right thing to do is better than to fool us, because there is nothing else to replace a bitcoin because bitcoin is a real cryptocurrency in the country a great decentralized currencies around the world.


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: Beerwizzard on March 17, 2019, 01:52:47 PM
The funniest thing is that you have made a big post about greed while above 90% of people that use cryptocurrencies for legal purposes started to do it just because there was a good chance to double or triple your investments just by buying some popular shitcoin. Greed is the thing that created crypto community as we see it today.


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: AllHodl on March 17, 2019, 03:10:32 PM
Greed is the thing that created crypto community as we see it today.

Surely! Greed is great for the growth of adoption. But today's crypto community is vulnerable to manipulation and full of contradictions. If we want to change that, we have to find other incentives.


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: coolcoinz on March 17, 2019, 03:33:41 PM
The funniest thing is that you have made a big post about greed while above 90% of people that use cryptocurrencies for legal purposes started to do it just because there was a good chance to double or triple your investments just by buying some popular shitcoin. Greed is the thing that created crypto community as we see it today.


In fact the community was started by a group of coders who believed in Satoshi's project. The early years of crypto, when there were only BTC and LTC available, were filled with intelligent discussions and dreams of decentralization and freedom. The bubbles brought greedy investors, but most of them got burned and lost money over time. These bubbles did not create the community though, but rather shaped it.


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: shinharu10282016 on March 17, 2019, 03:42:39 PM
Now see you're one of the nut jobs that confuse a product/service with a religion.

Bitcoin is not a religion, it won't save your soul , and it's odds of making you poorer are higher than it making you rich.

Also the corrupt have already gain control of bitcoin , so you are really not paying attention.

And as far as the Light & Dark go that is an endless Circle, where neither gains the upper hand for long.
Neither can exist without the other.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/Yin_and_Yang_inverted_%28esoteric%29.svg/375px-Yin_and_Yang_inverted_%28esoteric%29.svg.png





I definitely agree about the odds that it will make you poorer rather than make you rich, which is quite the same with religion. I don't know. Most people I know still donate to their religion even if they are broke themselves.

And yes, neither can exist without the other. If there's no light, there will be no shadow to make the darkness. :) and so forth.

I hope this guy can wake up one day and think that it is not about just that.


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: Beerwizzard on March 17, 2019, 03:45:35 PM
Greed is the thing that created crypto community as we see it today.

Surely! Greed is great for the growth of adoption. But today's crypto community is vulnerable to manipulation and full of contradictions. If we want to change that, we have to find other incentives.
Greed did nothing to adoption. People were buying coins just to get their ROI and sell it back to fiat. No one really cared about the way he will pay for his lambo.
Greed never helps to adopt money. People are using money not because money will give them a passive income by itself.

The funniest thing is that you have made a big post about greed while above 90% of people that use cryptocurrencies for legal purposes started to do it just because there was a good chance to double or triple your investments just by buying some popular shitcoin. Greed is the thing that created crypto community as we see it today.


In fact the community was started by a group of coders who believed in Satoshi's project. The early years of crypto, when there were only BTC and LTC available, were filled with intelligent discussions and dreams of decentralization and freedom. The bubbles brought greedy investors, but most of them got burned and lost money over time. These bubbles did not create the community though, but rather shaped it.
Unfortunately now they make about 1% of the total community.
By the way, most part of the first adopters sold their coins somewhere at 10-100$ price because even then it was a huge revenue and seemed like no one should expect a further growth.


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: erikoy on March 17, 2019, 03:53:57 PM
Nice thread buddy only few people on this forum could take much time in posting a thread. Usually a thread.like.this will earn a merit. Probably just wait some.time for this post to be visible for those who had some smerits. Anyway, I like your idea about the darkness to which we know it represents the bear market. Well any moment from.now then we will be able to see a lightness on it.


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: n0ne on March 17, 2019, 04:05:55 PM
It's been mentioned about different reality facts with bitcoin as well the facts that needs to be followed to help with the progress of bitcoin. That might be difficult to follow, but as days pass people find it good to use bitcoin through the continued practice. When the present users make use of it automatically the people next to us will begin to use it and the marketplaces will begin to accept. The initial step needs to happen from us.


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: Ucy on March 17, 2019, 08:18:12 PM

Also the corrupt have already gain control of bitcoin , so you are really not paying attention.


The Code will rather return power into the people’s hands if they keep the Seven simple commandments:

OK, since you have not been paying attention,
here are the updates.

Only the RICH can afford to mine BTC and make a Profit.
The Code has been sold out by Blockstream Devs to the corrupt.
Improving onchain utility has been discarded, the majority if not all transactions and improvements are moving offchain to LN.

LN will return all of the evil , that Satoshi attempted to remove.
LN Brings Back
Fractional Reserve System
Counterfeiting
Everything requires a middle man

Basically everything Satoshi did , is literally being pissed away so the bankers can maintain dominance.

The people are right back where they started from , the pawns of the rich elite controlling their funds.

Only a few alternative coins that refused to activate segwit and are not dominated by PoW ,
still adhere to Satoshi original goals. And the Corrupt forces are using every tactic in the playbook to try and destroy them.
And No , the outcome between those Alts and the corrupt is not predestined , sad to say.
It can go either way , as in any war.

BTC is a lost battle , the corrupt already own it, whether or not others can still profit from it , time will tell,
but the one certain fact is BTC will never regain what it originally was.
That Ship Sailed with the segwit activation and LN Instant Payment Channels.  :P



You  made too many extraordinary claims bro Could you please explain how this is true? I thought the main idea behind Lightening Network is to decongest the main Bitcoin blockchain and make it even cheaper.
What is it  about Fractional Reserve System and Counterfeiting?


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: Kopyleft on March 17, 2019, 09:16:05 PM
1.    Don’t worry about the passing price in illusory currencies, because 1 Bitcoin is always worth 1 Bitcoin. Fear and greed make it difficult to see the True Value.

This is ve y sound advise, if we stopped looking at Bitcoin from the view of how much fiat we could cash out at causes most of the panic in the market. One bitcoin indeed would always be worth one bitcoin.
It is not possible to ignore the price, as we all paid money to get bitcoins, but trust the tech and keep hodling.


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: carlfebz2 on March 17, 2019, 09:20:13 PM

The funniest thing is that you have made a big post about greed while above 90% of people that use cryptocurrencies for legal purposes started to do it just because there was a good chance to double or triple your investments just by buying some popular shitcoin. Greed is the thing that created crypto community as we see it today.


In fact the community was started by a group of coders who believed in Satoshi's project. The early years of crypto, when there were only BTC and LTC available, were filled with intelligent discussions and dreams of decentralization and freedom. The bubbles brought greedy investors, but most of them got burned and lost money over time. These bubbles did not create the community though, but rather shaped it.
Unfortunately now they make about 1% of the total community.
By the way, most part of the first adopters sold their coins somewhere at 10-100$ price because even then it was a huge revenue and seemed like no one should expect a further growth.

Normal thing to be done even you are an early adopter.Converting or selling out your coins with those ranges isnt already bad at all considering
on the price which they have bought in but still they do really regret on such decision but well no one can really predict on what are the things lies ahead
and these kind of missing the train scenarios is common.


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: palle11 on March 17, 2019, 09:24:30 PM
Your post is more of philosophical and a lay man will find it difficult to handle. Meanwhile then, I will just say that fraudulent icos are part of the people that reduced bitcoin to what it is today. My reason is that, most people know bitcoin and not ICO shitty coins and so, when they defraud people, it is assumed that bitcoin too is fraud and this contribute to the downslope in price.


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: AllHodl on March 18, 2019, 02:06:39 AM
Greed is the thing that created crypto community as we see it today.

Surely! Greed is great for the growth of adoption. But today's crypto community is vulnerable to manipulation and full of contradictions. If we want to change that, we have to find other incentives.
Greed did nothing to adoption. People were buying coins just to get their ROI and sell it back to fiat. No one really cared about the way he will pay for his lambo.
Greed never helps to adopt money. People are using money not because money will give them a passive income by itself.

Greed is neither good nor bad, it's just part of the human race. Greed creates bubbles. There is a lot of positive information noise and people get involved. Then the bubble bursts and it creates a lot of negative noise. Positive or negative promotion is still a promotion. But to move forward, we need new benchmarks. We have to get back to basics. Freedom, independence and equality are what really matter




Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: AllHodl on March 18, 2019, 05:15:30 AM


That Ship Sailed with the segwit activation and LN Instant Payment Channels.  :P


If you don't have to use LN and/or segwit when using BTC, what's the problem?

What I find amusing is you think you will have a choice,
either onchain BTC transactions will cost too much or
laws will be made blocking you as a normal citizen from using onchain transactions.
Most likely they will require you to have a crypto dealer license allowing buying and selling onchain,
no different than the requirements of buyers and sellers of gold & silver having to get a precious metals dealer license.
As part of that crypto dealer license , you will have to report everything you buy & sell and record whom those other parties are or face jail time.  :P
The public will be allowed to only transact thru LN hubs as all hubs will be required to report to the governments ,
as money transmitter at best or as a Banking institution at worst.
Only Non-PoW coin networks blocking Segwit/LN ,  will be outside of government control
and hold the last chance to make satoshi dream a reality.  ;)

If I have a private key, then no one can forbid me to use my BTC as I would like to. If there are really many people like me, no prisons and laws will stop us.


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: Beerwizzard on March 18, 2019, 07:53:54 AM
Normal thing to be done even you are an early adopter.Converting or selling out your coins with those ranges isnt already bad at all considering
on the price which they have bought in but still they do really regret on such decision but well no one can really predict on what are the things lies ahead
and these kind of missing the train scenarios is common.
Sure. But it means that the current community does not consist of those crypto enthusiasts that bought or mined BTC back in early days.

Greed is the thing that created crypto community as we see it today.

Surely! Greed is great for the growth of adoption. But today's crypto community is vulnerable to manipulation and full of contradictions. If we want to change that, we have to find other incentives.
Greed did nothing to adoption. People were buying coins just to get their ROI and sell it back to fiat. No one really cared about the way he will pay for his lambo.
Greed never helps to adopt money. People are using money not because money will give them a passive income by itself.

Greed is neither good nor bad, it's just part of the human race. Greed creates bubbles. There is a lot of positive information noise and people get involved. Then the bubble bursts and it creates a lot of negative noise. Positive or negative promotion is still a promotion. But to move forward, we need new benchmarks. We have to get back to basics. Freedom, independence and equality are what really matter

Bitcoin never been resilient to bubbles. And in early days it was even more obvious but no one has been talking about that.
It works the same way in every market: with a small market cap and volume every significant move will cause a market crash.
And what kind of independence do you want to achieve? Everything will always depend on something in crypto world.


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: AllHodl on March 18, 2019, 08:50:04 AM
And what kind of independence do you want to achieve? Everything will always depend on something in crypto world.

Independence in receiving, owning and free moving of value


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: jeremy84 on March 18, 2019, 08:59:51 AM
All said is true. I can only add that now is a good time to invest in Bitcoin. The market now has a positive trend.


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: AllHodl on March 19, 2019, 02:24:21 AM
And what kind of independence do you want to achieve? Everything will always depend on something in crypto world.

Independence in receiving, owning and free moving of value
well you depend on electricity and internet to move value. You depend on intellect and hardware wallets to own it securely and you depend on full nodes to receive.

Almost all human activity depends on internet and electricity. Paper wallet is enough to own Bitcoin securely. Full node - a small fee for independence, I suppose.


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: CryptoLogo on March 20, 2019, 07:00:11 PM
Wow, that looks very interesting, but somehow very strange. Are you talking about blockchain technology or some kind of sect? I like the message of this topic, but I'm a little scared.


Title: Re: Light always conquers darkness by simply filling it.
Post by: AllHodl on March 21, 2019, 02:51:21 AM
Wow, that looks very interesting, but somehow very strange. Are you talking about blockchain technology or some kind of sect? I like the message of this topic, but I'm a little scared.

Due to the complexity and depth of the technology, it is not easy for the masses to recognize and accept the power of Bitcoin.  This is not some kind of sect or religion, of course. As stated above, this is a philosophy that can help you to look at complex things from the other side. And more and more people may be interested in Bitcoin. This is one of the possible ways to explain and promote Bitcoin.