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Title: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: CryptoPressAssociation on March 18, 2019, 11:11:21 PM
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No, the New Zealand mass shooter was NOT involved in cryptocurrency - but he was part of a crypto-themed Ponzi scheme...

First, let me explain my intentions here - I hate when media coverage focuses on irrelevant background information of these mentally deranged mass shooters. Digging into their lives like what they did made them so interesting that suddenly their life story is newsworthy.

It's about as unproductive as approaching a crazy person on the street corner yelling at the sky and asking 'why are you doing that?' - you're never going to uncover a valid reason, one does not exist. If you need further proof, see every time you've done this in the past and note how still today we don't have any answers.

I'm writing this because the media is getting it wrong. One of the roles of The Global Crypto Press Association is to serve as a link between the mainstream media, the cryptocurrency industry, and community as a whole. My professional background includes on air and producer positions at two of the largest broadcasting companies in America, a similar background to several other reporters on our staff.

We do understand the challenges faced by journalists covering a variety of topics with a new focus every few days. It is both unrealistic to expect a journalist to know everything instantly, and unacceptable to let the current mistakes continue without addressing them.

The shooter's manifesto only says:

"...making some money investing in Bitconnect, then used the money from the investment to travel".

But the media is saying:

"He quit his job, invested in cryptocurrency and began traveling the world using his inheritance and money from bitcoin investments" says Fox News.

"He worked for a short time before making some money from Bitconnect, a cryptocurrency like Bitcoin, then used the money to fund his travels." says ABC.

"He financed his trips with money he made from Bitconnet and cryptocurrency like bitcoin" says NY Post.

"He funded his travels by making money from BitConnect, a cryptocurrency similar to bitcoin. Organized white supremacists, some of whom are banned from using PayPal and other major digital pay systems, often trade advice online about using cryptocurrencies that promise complete anonymity in transactions. Some of the extremists avoid using banks because they believe florid conspiracy theories in which Jews control international banking." The Washington Post says in a full-on disgusting attempt at implying cryptocurrency is the payment method of choice for all the worst people.  

Ironically, the reality is almost the complete opposite - one of the most debated and controversial topics in cryptocurrency revolves around exchanges banning the same people PayPal has, not just racists, but organizations like Wikileaks as well.

Let's correct the record.

He was not involved in cryptocurrency, or anything similar to Bitcoin:

What he was involved in was a scam called Bitconnect that used the word 'cryptocurrency'. 99% of people who say they are 'into cryptocurrency' are in a completely separate world where someone promoting or sharing a link to Bitconnect would earn them an instant ban from the forum or chat room they were in.

Bitconnect was immediately mocked by the legitimate side of the cryptocurrency world since it's inception.

The only place 'cryptocurrency' comes into the picture isn't even real:

Bitconnect claimed the profits came from a trading bot they created. Using artificial intelligence this software would take the money invested and make profitable trades on the cryptocurrency markets, earning income even when things were in a slump.

This never existed.

I'm sitting here thinking 'this explanation is too short' - but it really is this simple.

There is a story here, and the media is missing it:

Implying the shooter was involved in cryptocurrency isn't just incorrect - they're missing some real insight into his mind. You have to be unintelligent, gullible, and desperate to hand your money over to a website that was promising the things Bitconnect was.

The offer he thought was legitimate: daily 1% compound interest that would turn a $10,000 investment into $500 million within 3 years. "Risk free" too, a statement the Securities Commission cited as one of the reasons they issued a cease and desist.

Bitconnect would only end up lasting months, some estimate they held up to $900 million when they disappeared.

To this day the true masterminds behind Bitconnect are still at large. There have been some arrests, but those were misunderstood by the media too. The biggest arrest was someone who just signed up a lot of people under him in the ponzi scheme, not one of Bitconnect's creators.  I covered that when it happened here if anyone is curious.

Bitconnect and I go way back, let me tell you about their members:

I am the only journalist to have confronted Bitconnect in person.

In a video that received nearly 500,000 views, I attempted to confront a representative of Bitconnect at a cryptocurrency conference with the math mentioned above, asking to explain how they plan to pay thousands of people millions of dollars each. Of course, the Bitconnect rep had no answer other than to say my math was wrong, they have ways to 'make it work' and I wasn't owed any further details.

The death threats and angry comments rolled in, and it was clear - I was speaking with some of the stupidest people I have ever encountered, and none of them were from the cryptocurrency world.

No one who had given Bitconnect their money could explain how the investment worked, but they sure did stand by it... whatever it did.

Bitconnect supporters eventually filed enough false reports to get the video removed, but a report from that day can be here.

...Just a couple months later it was all over, and Bitconnect stole everyone's money and disappeared. (That story here)

Following the collapse I contacted the guy I had confronted and learned this 'representative' was simply another victim of the scam. Just as the company was starting to garner a lot of attention, they reached out to their members, carefully selecting true believers,  and offered them pay to show up to industry conferences representing Bitconnect. A final attempt at fixing their public image of a shadowy, nameless, faceless scam.

In closing:

The correct story is of someone so lost in life, he handed his money over to shady online Ponzi scheme promising magic. He seems to have been one of the lucky few who pulled his investment out before it all came crashing down. No skill, just luck.

Journalists - equating this to being involved in cryptocurrency is like someone holding up the worst trashy tabloid magazine, with a cover story saying 'Melana Trump pregnant with alien baby' and saying that you are in the same business as whoever wrote that.

So please, stop.

To the crypto community - if you spot any incorrect claims about the shooter being involved in cryptocurrency - tweet the author a link to this.

Other publications, bloggers, anyone really - you have our permission to re-publish this article on your platforms.

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Author: Ross Davis
San Francisco News Desk
http://www.GlobalCryptoPress.com

From: https://www.globalcryptopress.com/2019/03/no-new-zealand-mass-shooter-was-not.html

Thoughts?


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: mk4 on March 19, 2019, 12:25:05 AM
Regardless if the mass shooter made a statement concerning BitConnect or not, I'm pretty sure that's not what caused him to do what he did though. Dude was a messed up anti-muslim extremist to begin with; being scammed by BitConnect probably didn't do much with his extremist views.

Note that the dude also mentioned some memes and internet copypastas, so we're not actually sure if he was actually a victim on the BitConnect scam or if he's just meme-ing even though his tone on his message was quite serious.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: Bitinity on March 19, 2019, 12:57:46 AM
I think most local news also spread the same news to connect terrorist and crypto, while in my opinion there is no correlation between terrorist and crypto in general. It seems that there are some people who hate crypto then try to use very bad moment to make people think bad about crypto.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: anu1908 on March 19, 2019, 01:28:00 AM
i've read one article about the shooter on my local media, and they put a big title: "Bitcoin used by New Zealand terrorist" or something along the line, while in fact the perpetrator mentions about Bitconnect.

that's such a sad journalism. not only they write a wrong report, they also lied to the mass by making such article. i don't know why that happened.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: avikz on March 19, 2019, 02:07:08 AM
Your thread proves that the media of NZ is successful in their goal of luring crypto mass into their news website or at least take interest in the news. The way cryptocurrency is getting involved into various fraud, scam and money Laundering activities, is not good for the reputation of cryptos. Along with the mainstream media, Banks are also sending propaganda emails to their customers. Upcoming Hollywood movie "crypto" is also showing cryptos in a wrong way. These kind of things are actually helping the haters to spread fake propaganda against cryptos in general.

But again, like Mahatma Gandhi said,

"First they ignore you,
Then they laugh at you,
Then they fight you,
And then you win!"

Terrorism financing is a real threat to human race. With cryptos, it has even become easier! But terrorism financing was a threat even with fiat! It will probably remain a challenge but that wouldn't stop the growth of cryptos kn long term.

Let peace shines upon us all!


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: rosmerius on March 19, 2019, 02:30:51 AM
The article did help crypto haters, but crypto continues to grow, events in NZ are indeed very regrettable and this is certainly a lot of people who criticize this action. We as crypto users always think positively for the benefits, and hopefully we are able to control all crypto assets to something more useful.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: kaya11 on March 19, 2019, 02:41:46 AM
Media is always like that and never change, they conceal what is the truth and tell lies about a certain scope. Now they even drag crypto currencies to the shooter to give negative image again to the who crypto society even though the only project the shooter was into was the scam project Bitconnect. The shooter did not even use Bitcoin and yet the media is telling crypto as whole. They are now totally branding "crypto" as scam,bubble and every bad words that comes in to their mind.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: jseverson on March 19, 2019, 03:03:15 AM
Looks to me like Fox News was the only one who was outright dishonest, saying explicitly that he made money from Bitcoin. Others simply drew comparisons, which may be necessary because I'm sure not a lot of their audience have heard of cryptocurrency before, but are familiar with Bitcoin one way or another. It could be argued that Bitconnect wasn't truly a cryptocurrency, much in the vein of Ripple, etc., but the mainstream won't be able to follow that anyway.

As for the Washington Post's piece, well, rotten apples ruining the bunch isn't an entirely new occurrence to crypto. It's unfortunate, but people ignorant to the topic will believe what they want to believe in; some people still firmly believe that Bitcoin is still predominantly used for drugs, for example. I do agree that citing crypto use in this case is unnecessary at best, and malicous at worst though.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: denzkilim on March 19, 2019, 03:25:19 AM
Regardless if the mass shooter made a statement concerning BitConnect or not, I'm pretty sure that's not what caused him to do what he did though. Dude was a messed up anti-muslim extremist to begin with; being scammed by BitConnect probably didn't do much with his extremist views.

Note that the dude also mentioned some memes and internet copypastas, so we're not actually sure if he was actually a victim on the BitConnect scam or if he's just meme-ing even though his tone on his message was quite serious.
Yep, That is correct, I don't think that the mass shooter suspect is doing that terrible massacre because he is scammed by BitConnect or anything, he is just a plain ill-minded person just like the other terrorist that spreads terror all around the world for the sake of their happiness or belief and does not respect other people way of life or way of living.
Just ignore those media that spreads false news about Crypto Currency because most of them are against Crypto Currency and they are nothing but a bunch of paid FUD spreaders that are controlled by some huge manipulators.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: pooya87 on March 19, 2019, 03:53:11 AM
that has been a part and parcel of the media outlets for a very long time, the yellower they are, the less researched news they publish. of course there are times when the big guys in the business also publish similar falsified news but they do it for some other hidden agenda.
in the end i think they have overdone it enough times that the effects of such negativity in the minds of the viewers isn't that big anymore.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: n0ne on March 19, 2019, 04:20:31 AM
Media needs something trending or something that easily gains the attention. It is easy to spread one's negative part of life than the good he has done. The shooter is a bad human, and what all things can be attributed with him gets added. And one such is the cryptocurrency. He might have used cryptocurrency, but what media will say cryptocurrency is being used to buy the guns. This is how interpretation happens and the same gets negative thinking about bitcoin on common people's minds.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: Kakmakr on March 19, 2019, 05:48:17 AM
The media are looking for a scapegoat or something to blame for this senseless killings. He did not buy guns on the Black market with Crypto currencies, he used Fiat/Credit cards to purchase these guns, but nothing is being said about that, because they cannot blame the government for printing money and it is not sensational enough, if it was fiat cash or a credit card.  ::)

The media like to sensationalize events and will change the information to suit their agenda and the agenda of the masters that are pulling the strings.

The fact is, the government did not prevent this, but rather caused this by allowing the public to buy automatic rifles and also not reacting on intelligence that extremist like this was in possession of weapons and ammunition that can cause mass killings like this.  >:(


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: Beerwizzard on March 19, 2019, 07:26:33 AM
With such headline I expected to see that someone will blame him for buying something illegal in dark web and paying with bitcoin, which is a pretty common thing.
But the argument that he used returns from his crypto investments to travel and buy some other stuff can be used with any other kind of investment or just a normal job. The source of his money totally doesn't matter.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: alisafidel58 on March 19, 2019, 07:38:57 AM
The drama that the media brings really amazed me. They are only trying to take the blame over cryptocurrency on why did the shooter to such thing. Obviously, he hates Muslims so much that he went to a Muslim church and do some rampant shooting there.

The media is bias on some of their reporting, they can't find a decent report on whos to blame on why did the shooter do such act and cryptocurrency is the scapegoat.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: kudil on March 19, 2019, 08:26:51 AM
I just knew about this and then, I try to search a news in my local media, then I just found it, like this (https://dunia.tempo.co/read/1185732/pelaku-penembakan-di-selandia-baru-peroleh-uang-dari-bitcoin/full&view=ok). They say Bitconnect is digital money, like Bitcoin. I bet they're only check an article from other international media and copy-paste it to gain more money from their article.

The drama that the media brings really amazed me. They are only trying to take the blame over cryptocurrency on why did the shooter to such thing. Obviously, he hates Muslims so much that he went to a Muslim church and do some rampant shooting there.
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I guess, He doesn't hate Muslims but he hates immigrants and afraid the dominance of "white people" can be replaced.   



Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: RapTarX on March 19, 2019, 08:53:33 AM
I think most local news also spread the same news to connect terrorist and crypto, while in my opinion there is no correlation between terrorist and crypto in general. It seems that there are some people who hate crypto then try to use very bad moment to make people think bad about crypto.
In my local, 99% news/articles about bitcoin have referred bitcoin as a way of buying/selling on darkweb or buying/selling illegal products. Those reading these articles, are thinking bitcoin as a illegal payment method despite it is a currency.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: DeathAngel on March 19, 2019, 09:23:58 AM
Wouldn’t really matter if he was involved in bitcoin. Lunatic who kills people is involved in a form of money......Doesn’t really matter if it is bitcoin or fiat. People use money to do stuff lol.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: talkbitcoin on March 19, 2019, 10:11:30 AM
The drama that the media brings really amazed me. They are only trying to take the blame over cryptocurrency on why did the shooter to such thing. Obviously, he hates Muslims so much that he went to a Muslim church and do some rampant shooting there.
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I guess, He doesn't hate Muslims but he hates immigrants and afraid the dominance of "white people" can be replaced.   

it is an act of terrorism and has little to do with hate this group or that group. terrorists don't kill masses to decrease dominance of "white people" either.
act of terrorism quite simply has only one purpose: to create terror and fear.

the media on the other hand is taking advantage of that emotions to run the hottest topic and if they can throw in something like cryptocurrencies that are also hot topic they wouldn't hesitate.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: KingScorpio on March 19, 2019, 10:14:07 AM
stop using the terms correct or incorrect, you lost the right to do that with the creation of bitcoin,

the central banks and the communal fiat driven people put you for economic reasons into a bad light, the same as you lunatics put them for economic reasons in a bad light (oh bitcoin is better than these nasty "fiats")

get used to it. you market your trash they market their "trash"

they are not more bigotted and agenda driven than you are.

correct and incorrect is to universal


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: kodtycoon on March 19, 2019, 10:30:21 AM
media quote we increasingly know there is no truth there, the terrorist act actually spreads fear and he also says he will repeat the action again. cryptocurrencies have nothing to do with their criminal actions and I think terrorists make money in groups rather than individually, the media cornering the crypto is an issue that makes no sense


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: arbiter5 on March 19, 2019, 10:45:54 AM
stop using the terms correct or incorrect, you lost the right to do that with the creation of bitcoin,

the central banks and the communal fiat driven people put you for economic reasons into a bad light, the same as you lunatics put them for economic reasons in a bad light (oh bitcoin is better than these nasty "fiats")

get used to it. you market your trash they market their "trash"

they are not more bigotted and agenda driven than you are.

correct and incorrect is to universal

Are you seriously going to blabber on your anti-bitcoin bullshit views even in a topic that isn't specifically made to talk about bitcoin in the first place, but the media's inaccurate news? Seriously, jog on.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: Juggy777 on March 19, 2019, 10:49:46 AM
I think most local news also spread the same news to connect terrorist and crypto, while in my opinion there is no correlation between terrorist and crypto in general. It seems that there are some people who hate crypto then try to use very bad moment to make people think bad about crypto.

Hey I’m not surprised that the media has decided to harm crypto’s image, without doing any due diligence as usual. The man was an anti Muslim and his thoughts and ideologies were seen in the killings he executed, he didn’t even spare children’s and women’s . I feel the media should be ashamed of themselves for trying to harm bitcoins Image with fabricated facts.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 21, 2019, 12:06:50 AM
I think most local news also spread the same news to connect terrorist and crypto, while in my opinion there is no correlation between terrorist and crypto in general. It seems that there are some people who hate crypto then try to use very bad moment to make people think bad about crypto.

Hey I’m not surprised that the media has decided to harm crypto’s image, without doing any due diligence as usual. The man was an anti Muslim and his thoughts and ideologies were seen in the killings he executed, he didn’t even spare children’s and women’s . I feel the media should be ashamed of themselves for trying to harm bitcoins Image with fabricated facts.
I think that this is something common, always attack Bitcoin and all the crypto market in some way, it is very easy, everyone wants to have some control, when there is technology that governments and third parties can not control, they simply make use of their controlled tools, such as unverified news.

Now all this can bring two possible scenarios:

1.- Make people fear them and the market suffers a small fall.

2.- Make the market rise in price because it is the best option to buy cheaply, since those who are scared will sell as cheaply as possible.

Anything that manages to influence, is a somewhat corrupt method what they try to do against technology and progress, the media should have a little more professional ethics when launching news of that nature.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: TECSHARE on March 21, 2019, 12:13:51 AM
Is everyone seeing the pattern of how this person purposely mentioned a bunch of dissident type groups in order to cause them to be associated with his violent actions in order to make it a simple task to demonize them? Add a little censorship and boom, you have a machine for manufacturing guilt and the targets are prohibited by law (or TOS) from defending themselves.


Title: Re: Media spreads incorrect story of New Zealand mass shooter & crypto...
Post by: sheenshane on March 23, 2019, 05:51:46 AM
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Anything that manages to influence, is a somewhat corrupt method what they try to do against technology and progress, the media should have a little more professional ethics when launching news of that nature.
This is why I don't really trust media. They don't understand what they are saying usually and it is very disappointing. I still remember the time where I have proved that media are trying to manipulate people's mind and that was the time I stopped watching the news on TVs.

I am very sad about the people in my previous generation where TVs are the only source of information. I am glad to live in the Internet era and not within the TV area. I'm so disappointed with humanity and the media!