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after getting really rekt in 2018 (I got into crypto in December 2017) and being a community member for almost a year I finally accepted my losses, decided I had not much more to lose and started trading. At first I started swingtrading the shitcoin I was bagholding and increased my position almost 50% in one month. Eventually I got left out in a pump and refused to buy back higher. Luckily I didn’t because 2 weeks later it got delisted everywhere and price dumped really hard. So I moved on to Binance and started following some traders on Tradingview. I also got 3commas. I selected 5 coins intending to swing them over a couple of weeks, but eventually couldn’t resist closing my trades whenever they had $20 profit. The first 5 days I did this (March 11-16) I averaged at least $100 a day in profits and so my interest shifted from swingtrading to daytrading. The reasoning behind this is I’m only trading with $6000 and daily profits give me a sense of security, it’s better for my mental health.  I have a lot of free time and I’m prepared to do whatever grunt work is necessary to succeed in this. Also, I believe I will grow my portfolio much quicker by adding small quantities every day instead of trying to get multiple 20% trades within a month. Funny thing is, since I’m trying to daytrade I’m unable to get daily profits like I did when I was trying to swingtrade!

I’m a bit frustrated because I don’t really know what changed. Maybe it’s because it’s unsure what BTC is going to do and alts aren’t as jumpy as they were last week, or maybe I just bought my current bags too high, resulting in those funds getting stuck until they at least break even.

I have some questions that could help me understand more about daytrading in general, I hope I can some feedback on them:

- How many coins do you have on your watchlist?
- Do you check all those charts on your watchlist every morning (or even multiple times a day)?
- At what timeframes do you check them if you intend to daytrade (15m - 1h?) or swingtrade (4h - 1d?)?
- If you had only 1.5 BTC would you get 15 0.1 BTC bags or 5 0.3 BTC bags (with multiple entries)?
- What works for you to pick your daily coins? Some do full TA, others just look at Bollinger Bands and Stoch RSI, I watched a lot of youtube videos and they all make it look really easy but I haven’t found what works for me yet.
- Do you use signals? The signals on 3commas for example have a 80% success ratio and can be used to automate bots. I wonder if it’s really that easy? It seems too good to be true, but then again the results…


As you can see I need some advice and I would really appreciate it if I could get some tips from experienced traders! Everyone likes a motivated student don’t they :D

Most probably you may not get right piece of advice as most people here are just long term holders still I do see there are many serious discussions on day trading here always. Personally I tried day trading twice but I got stuck then I waited for weeks to recover my losses then I just exit covering fees and some small profits. Now a days, I am too a proud long term holder of cryptos and this way I never get stuck still I am confident about comparatively more profits than day trading. Day trading must need your full time and you might need lots of analysis. If you still finds it is worth for your efforts and time, you may continue with day trading.

Here I am just quoting one good post on day trading which may answer some of your questions and doubts:

I suggest not to be too sure about the trading signal. if you want to try it, I suggest looking at some testimonials so that the signal can be proven.
or you try to subscribe to trading signals that are not free.

Yes you already have the answers here.

There is not much of a movement by now.
Even my portfolio is not moving or worse they are going down. How can we make profits with that?
Resting will be a better idea.
Taste that last profits and maybe refresh in a good place then come back working your ass afterwards.

Maybe after that we could see a good movement again. Let us take out Tether then maybe we can see a good swing.  ;D
I just became a hardcore hodler.  :D

Firstly date reading will not suitable for lots of kisses because the tension and work was very different from other type of investment in trading so you have to work continuously without any time and date so making your day trading possible you need to ready for everything it will be a profit or loss when will you this type of things will be carried out by the people.

This community was supporting to day trading because majority of the investors are enter into this platform. So active traders are make some losses at anytime But those are monitoring the crypto as well as stock market they only success in this platform. I personally analyse the stock market and crypto market both are same process so high margin investment will not drop in any Investment.

As a newbie once its good to ask for pointers for old-time traders, asking a question to learn won't give you any harm and can expand your knowledge towards something. it is :o only right that OP asks a question it is for his own benefit and not yours.

Day trading is always a good way to earn shortly but you have to invest a lot .However if you use signal without testing it can make you losses .I think you have to test it first if you have any option to demo trade .I personally do't believe in signal ,i just try to research myself and trade .Its the best strategy, so learn first and start trading.

Just do what you believe, trade is a combination of analysis and emotional control. it requires practice and a long time.
it's not easy to become a trader, this is not a theory of selling expensive and buying when it's cheap.
anyone can say it, but the fact is trading is a difficult job to do.

High likely newbies will trust trading signal because it is the easiest way for them to trade instead of doing their own researches. Cant blame them though as it is their own right, I can call it as a process for them to learn about trading. Once they noticed that the trading signals is not that good then they will try to do their own ways.

I agree and that's what traders should do. Moreover, a beginner trader should learn a lot and continue to train the sharpness of analysis in trading.
if I use trading signals I think he is fooling himself.

We can't actually escape from losses especially when you are new into trading and even old traders, that's because the market seems to be unpredictable and fluctuates all the time. This is how we learn and make strategies that will make a play in the market flows.
Of course, as a beginners it is important to save and advice/suggestions and used it in actual scenarios. We can't be growing if we never have this thing(losses) as it give us courage and to be more careful for the incoming.

Yeah we cant really escape from losses, but atleast we can minimize losses for the trading activity. If the market still continue on bearish trend and we can predict the market. Maybe we can get out the market with 2-3% losses.

Day trading will give a nice profit if you have skills to predict the trend for every coin. Besides that, day trading will be too difficult if you want to make some percentage because if the market cannot move as we predict, then we could not make any profit and we can get losses. And yes, the risk of losses will be there and we need to manage our fund so we know what we should do.

When it comes profit there's possible that day trading can do that, but it is very risky as well. Time management is not easy to decide especially if we have more things to do. Predicting the market is not an easy way, in trading, you must have fundamental skills and timing when you are going to buy and sell. Make it sure that you have a full of knowledge before engaging the field of trading to avoid possible loose.

3 this includes bitcoin, ethereum and ETC.

Yes, I check them using the site of coinmarketcap.com

I think every hour? I'm not much engaged in daytrading for now since the market is unstable.

I'll get .5 btc each of my favorite coins.

Whenever I found any signals in twitter or signs of bullish I trade some coins.

Automated bots are somewhat good to try. My cousin tried a bot and succeed trades. But I haven't used any of those.

Not only for his own benefit but i think it can also help the readers. Its ok to ask especially if you don’t have enough knowledge about the market. Newbies should be more like this than to be greedy, after all it will benefit to you and for sure you will do the same thing to others.

This is one major thing that is now affecting you. If you notice, while you were swinging, you were allowing your trade enough space and not always monitoring. So do the same now that you have decided to day trade. Stop monitoring at short intervals. Set your profit it will get there. Good luck.

- How many coins do you have on your watchlist?
Right now, I have more than 5 coins on my watchlist.

- Do you check all those charts on your watchlist every morning (or even multiple times a day)?
I'll check multiple times a day because I don't want to miss a good price to buy and sell.

- At what timeframes do you check them if you intend to daytrade (15m - 1h?) or swingtrade (4h - 1d?)?
I set the interval for 15m-1h.

- If you had only 1.5 BTC would you get 15 0.1 BTC bags or 5 0.3 BTC bags (with multiple entries)?
I will choose to have 5 @ 0.3 BTC bags with multiple entries, but it will be good if you leave 0.5 as your back up balance just in case if something worst happens.

- What works for you to pick your daily coins? Some do full TA, others just look at Bollinger Bands and Stoch RSI, I watched a lot of youtube videos and they all make it look really easy but I haven’t found what works for me yet.
I use Bollinger Bands, and sometimes I used MACD and sometimes I used both plus Moving Average.

- Do you use signals? The signals on 3commas for example have a 80% success ratio and can be used to automate bots. I wonder if it’s really that easy? It seems too good to be true, but then again the results…

No, I don't use any signal from telegram groups or others. I only believe with myself.

I hope that you can get some lesson from us and hope you can trade better after this.

As like what you said op maybe because you bought too high price reason you cant even obtain by doing day trading. Well in my opinion probably yes that's the main reason as well because we have basic rules that must be followed wherein " buy low and sell high "so it would be difficult to earn especially if you start from the very high position. On this kind of situation perhaps profits will be made only unless you trade for long run not day trading because market nowadays didn't progressing well  so maybe it would be better to choose the right way instead pursuing to day trade which is even its  impossible to make profits.

Since I don't want to write a long article article, I want to answer your questions one by one.

1) Before buying, I look at the graafikler of all the options I have been researching. Especially the last 24-hour chart is very important for me because it is never right to buy from the highest price of the day. (I don't take that risk even if it's an upward trend.)

2) Generally, I do my sales transactions as soon as I reach the targeted profit margin because I have been constantly following the price. I do not limit myself to a certain period of time.

3) Even though I like to make a portfolio, I prefer to create very few choices in daily transactions. Controlling dozens of different processes is both exhausting and takes a lot of time.

4) I usually act on my own decisions when entering or buying a purchase order. I don't use any tools. The options at the bottom of the last 24-hour period are usually my main choice.

5) I certainly don't follow any signal or investment advice. I make my own decisions with my own research. If other people believed that those signals were successful, they wouldn't share it with anyone.

I want to leave a note at the end of my writing. Always stay away from options with low trading volumes.

3-4 coins would be enough to make me busy.lol

Multiple times a day, since i do have 3 monitor set-up, i do actively check it once in a while.

Mostly doing daytrade yet i have all the time i needed.

Smaller lot size is preferable yet you can extent your trading entries.

Just always keep in mind that TA doesnt give out precise results but im just using simple trend line and S & R.

Nope, dont tend to make use of these things ever.

I feel he just need to change his strategy, probably he was trading when the market was still bullish, but now that we are in bearish market, it really requires more strategies to be applied to day trading for one to really make profit from it, it is this bear market that even forced a lot of day traders to be trading shitcoins, though one needs to be very careful with that too as it also require careful study of chart when there is going to be pump and dump.

Though in this bear market, I personally don’t do much of trading, I just hold my coins because I don’t want anything that will give me emotional torture.

My 70% success rate is still in tact but I have made some bad calls later on longer trades. In one case down 50% and also trying to swing trade RVN didnt work out

On the other side made good calls swing trading Celer

Thanks for the replies everyone, there’s lots of solid advice in this thread!



For example I do agree using signals and automated bots would take the learning curve away. While I still think it is possible to make profits this way (you can check the results of signal sellers on 3commas), these profits would be the result of putting trust in other people and not by getting more skilled myself. That is certainly not the way to go.



Another great tip for me personally comes from Tytanowy Janusz: 'having everything loaded into trades should not be your priority'. This is something I am very guilty of. When I sell a bag, I buy another one within the next hour. I never have BTC for opportunities. When BTC dumped a bit some days ago there were so many ALTS I’ve could have gotten cheap, but I had no BTC left. 

I also realised why I HAVE to set stop losses this week. At first I was reluctant because of the following reasons:

- the coins I get in are fundamentally good projects and when you look at ICX and LOOM for example and zoom out on the chart, well, chances you’ll be bagholding a coin like that for many years are small. Worst case scenario it turns into a long term hodl.
- you could end up 'wasting' profits when a stop loss gets triggered and price recovers just as fast. Many times you will see coins dump a little before they pump. Nobody likes being left out that way.

After refusing to set stop losses for a couple of weeks however, I have learned that your funds get tied up pretty quickly and while you will not lose on those trades in the long run, you miss out on much better opportunities short term or you might miss the possibility to re-enter at a lower price. So from now on this is a no brainer to me: losses are not bad, you’re not a failure when you realise them, sometimes they are a necessary evil.


Also, I have to accept that while I have the luxury to do this 16 hours a day for 6 more months, I just don’t have the knowledge to put that time to good use. In fact, spending that much time staring at screens without a solid plan will probably be counterproductive like gantez worded so nicely.





I guess my main problem is that I’m still wayy to impatient/insecure. In trading and in life generally. I exptected all this free time to be reflected in my profits. And it kinda did, I actually had a great month, I started with $4400 on March 11th and I’m currently over $6100 with two weeks to go before the month ends. What bothers me about it is I don’t really know how I did it and how to replicate it, fearing that all of this was just dumb luck.



I will probably benefit from taking a step back, taking a deep breath and focus on learning. The question is, where to start? So many different opinions, so many indicators, it’s easy to suffer from information overload and I don’t want to get turned off by that.