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Title: Closed
Post by: marcotheminer on March 23, 2019, 05:02:54 AM
Missed opportunity for all who saw this.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on March 23, 2019, 05:41:20 AM
There is absolutely no way this is a good idea.

I will look past your recent delinquency in repaying your recent loans.

You have recently taken out multiple no collateral loans, all in increasing size, sometimes without first repaying the prior loan, and after returning from a long period of inactivity. 

Your recent loan history is an indication you are intending on eventually going to take out a large loan and run away.

I would avoid like the plague.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: marcotheminer on March 23, 2019, 05:43:59 AM
There is absolutely no way this is a good idea.

I will look past your recent delinquency in repaying your recent loans.

You have recently taken out multiple no collateral loans, all in increasing size, sometimes without first repaying the prior loan, and after returning from a long period of inactivity.  

Your recent loan history is an indication you are intending on eventually going to take out a large loan and run away.

I would avoid like the plague.

Edit: all in increasing size is false.

This will be many's scepticism. If you feel this way first off - please don't reply, I doubt I can convince you. I am not exit-scamming.

Blockchain proof I am the same person.

I am asking for serious people.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: tmfp on March 23, 2019, 01:30:38 PM

C'mon Marco, you've been around long enough to know that this won't fly, you know that the screenshots prove nothing.
You're trolling yourself.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: marcotheminer on March 23, 2019, 01:46:53 PM

C'mon Marco, you've been around long enough to know that this won't fly, you know that the screenshots prove nothing.
You're trolling yourself.

Different opportunity require different capital amounts. It won't fly with you, and forum officers/patrollers too. I'm looking for actually interested people with cash, they can make the call if it'll fly or not.

SERIOUS investors I can PROVE things to.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: nutildah on March 23, 2019, 02:11:00 PM
I have an opportunity for profit of 2000 EUR during the next 19 days. I can explain further for serious lenders. Nothing illegal, promotion kind of thing, mainly automation to help generate. It is not given, "other people share profits too", but very likely and I can explain why our probability of return is 95 percentile kind of thing - to reassure the lender, I am certain..

Why wouldn't you just explain what it is here? You should have known you would already be questioned -- not releasing the details of why you need the money just makes the whole thing look more suspect.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: marcotheminer on March 23, 2019, 02:15:21 PM
I have an opportunity for profit of 2000 EUR during the next 19 days. I can explain further for serious lenders. Nothing illegal, promotion kind of thing, mainly automation to help generate. It is not given, "other people share profits too", but very likely and I can explain why our probability of return is 95 percentile kind of thing - to reassure the lender, I am certain..

Why wouldn't you just explain what it is here? You should have known you would already be questioned -- not releasing the details of why you need the money just makes the whole thing look more suspect.

I will release all the information needed, privately. I already have to some users: Magneto, Roman, 2double0 (no, not myself), amongst a couple others off-forum.

So not suspect - delicate income opportunity. 5000eur/20 days is attractive to MANY.

Obviously, the size is "large", and you would understand why.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: hacker1001101001 on March 23, 2019, 02:20:03 PM
https://i.imgur.com/VmgcKF7.png
https://i.imgur.com/CHGjghw.png
This proves nothing if you cannot sign a message from the address holding such ammout of funds.

I think by looking at your current leading status none of an investor or lender would be interested in it from just whats written in the OP nor someone will contact you.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: marcotheminer on March 23, 2019, 02:22:36 PM
https://i.imgur.com/VmgcKF7.png
https://i.imgur.com/CHGjghw.png
This proves nothing if you cannot sign a message from the address holding such ammout of funds.

I think by looking at your current leading status none of an investor or lender would be interested in it from just whats written in the OP nor someone will contact you.

That is not proof. Obviously, screenshots are worth 0 to outsiders. If that is enough to intrigue you to then ASK for more proof (I'm just showing some of my current funds, believe it or not), it serves its purpose.

PLEASE:

If you are not interested, do not post your opinion, you can use reputation threads for that. I realise where I stand and what I'm asking for.

PM or POST HERE if you are serious, have the money, and want to know more, to eventually invest/loan me.

Ready to call, skype, etc.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: Quickseller on March 23, 2019, 04:51:50 PM
One of the screenshots in the OP is of a "KuCoin" account that is purporting to show ~$120 in it. There was a recent study showing that 85%+ (IIRC) of trading volume at exchanges is faked, and this is absolutely not an exchange I would trust my money with

Marco PM'ed me asking if I can fill this loan, and after asking questions, he said it is part "arbitrage" and part something else that he described as "another aspect with it is happening (the real money maker)".

I am not sure if this loan will be repaid if filled, but it has many red flags of being an exit scam.

Also, Marco claims he used the proceeds of the previous loan he took to "trade", however he was late in repaying those loans, which implies the "method" that marco has is less than a sure thing.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: marcotheminer on March 23, 2019, 05:08:14 PM
One of the screenshots in the OP is of a "KuCoin" account that is purporting to show ~$120 in it. There was a recent study showing that 85%+ (IIRC) of trading volume at exchanges is faked, and this is absolutely not an exchange I would trust my money with

Marco PM'ed me asking if I can fill this loan, and after asking questions, he said it is part "arbitrage" and part something else that he described as "another aspect with it is happening (the real money maker)".

I am not sure if this loan will be repaid if filled, but it has many red flags of being an exit scam.

Also, Marco claims he used the proceeds of the previous loan he took to "trade", however he was late in repaying those loans, which implies the "method" that marco has is less than a sure thing.

This is a different opportunity. Not a method. I follow the procedure/rules that exist and I will get paid.

This comes at an unfortunate time, obviously, but I put those things aside and proceed as usual in search of income.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on March 23, 2019, 06:59:05 PM
Ready to call, skype, etc.
What is your skype?


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: marcotheminer on March 23, 2019, 07:06:23 PM
Ready to call, skype, etc.
What is your skype?

I can call on telegram this instant.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: Vod on March 23, 2019, 10:42:09 PM
This will be short, to the point. I have 0 debts. Everything has been settled.

Read trust feedback.  This profile is probably pulling an exit scam. 


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on March 24, 2019, 12:50:19 AM
I spoke with marcotheminer via skype earlier this evening a couple of hours ago about his loan request. I have received evidence there may be a semi-legitimate reason to need this loan. During my discussion with marcotheminer, he also explained to me how he plans on earning the money to repay a lender, and my opinion is it is not a "sure thing" what marcotheminer plans on doing with the loan proceeds will be successful at all, nor that it will be successful enough to pay the offered interest.

My concerns stated in this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5123782.msg50277166#msg50277166) remain, and I will not be taking down that post. I do not want to keep up incorrect information in my posts, and at this time, I do not believe the above post contains any incorrect or misleading information, and I stand by that statement.

My conversation with marcotheminer was unable to address the issue that he does not appear to be trustworthy enough to trust him with 5000 EUR, nor that his "loan history is an indication (he is) intending (to) eventually (...) take out a large loan and run away"


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: marcotheminer on March 24, 2019, 05:12:22 AM
Shame, proof/evidence gets easily "tainted" by the wrong/established perspective.

Semi-legitimate..? Means you really didn't fully understand the a)context b)content of the opportunity.

Updates AND repayments would be made daily

Oh well, offer still stands, though each day that passes is less earnings potential.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: marcotheminer on March 25, 2019, 08:39:06 AM
Bump


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: jonsi on March 25, 2019, 07:26:45 PM
@OP: In the event that you "get hit by a bus", how would the lender be able to recoup his loaned ammount?


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: bones261 on March 25, 2019, 08:10:31 PM
@OP: In the event that you "get hit by a bus", how would the lender be able to recoup his loaned ammount?

Chances are the lender would be SOL in such a case. (I suppose one could try to file a claim against the estate in probate. However, this would be very difficult to pull off. Especially if you live in a different jurisdiction from the decedent.) However, that small risk would be involved in any unsecured loan. The main factors to consider are already listed in the OPs trust page comments. If someone feels after taking these factors into consideration that the op is worth the risk, that's up to the lender. I certainly wouldn't.  But then again, I am a broke bitch.  :D


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: Quickseller on March 25, 2019, 08:25:51 PM
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Updates AND repayments would be made daily
This kind of promise is not worth anything because it relies on the lender first sending money to you, just as a loan without this promise.

@OP: In the event that you "get hit by a bus", how would the lender be able to recoup his loaned ammount?
This problem is not unique to this loan request. As is the case with all other no collateral loans, the lender would not be repaid.

The lender could file a claim against the estate however if collateral cannot be offered, there is a good chance the estate would be unable to pay. Also for the amount involved, going after the estate is probably not cost efficient.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: jonsi on March 25, 2019, 08:48:39 PM
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Updates AND repayments would be made daily
This kind of promise is not worth anything because it relies on the lender first sending money to you, just as a loan without this promise.

@OP: In the event that you "get hit by a bus", how would the lender be able to recoup his loaned ammount?
This problem is not unique to this loan request. As is the case with all other no collateral loans, the lender would not be repaid.

The lender could file a claim against the estate however if collateral cannot be offered, there is a good chance the estate would be unable to pay. Also for the amount involved, going after the estate is probably not cost efficient.

I know that this is not unique to this loan request and can be disregarded for non collateral microloans, but this is not the case here (3000 - 5000 EUR is not a microloan).

So again, OP can you please explain how would the lender recoup his loaned amount if this situation would be to occur?


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: Vod on March 25, 2019, 10:17:45 PM
2 week interest, repayments daily, updates daily. Example: 1000 EUR would net you 1100 EUR in 2 weeks (with 50-100 EUR paid daily from generated income).

So now you are promoting ponzis?  :(



Title: Re: Closed
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on March 26, 2019, 05:27:01 AM
2 week interest, repayments daily, updates daily. Example: 1000 EUR would net you 1100 EUR in 2 weeks (with 50-100 EUR paid daily from generated income).

So now you are promoting ponzis?  :(


He described to me what his plans were for the loan proceeds, and they were not to be used for anything resembling a ponzi.

What he described involved taking advantage of a limited time promotion being offered by a new business. The business would be trusted with the entire 5,000 EUR, and there is a chance the terms may not be met. The value of the cryptocurrencies may also decline below the 5,000 EUR lent and this is another risk.

The business in question is not one that I would trust with 500 EUR, and I am not entirely sure it is an entirely separate entity from marcotheminer. I have never heard of this business prior to me speaking with marcotheminer about this loan.

He claims to be unemployed and does not appear to have the means to repay the loan including interest if one or more of the above risks are realized.
If I completely ignore the fact that his
recent loan history is an indication (he is) intending on eventually () tak(ing) out a large loan and run(ning) away
then I would conclude this is a bad idea to participate in this loan. I do not think it is an acceptable risk to ignore that his loan history indicates he will take the large loan and run away.

tl;dr - not a ponzi, still a very bad idea to lend to him


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: marcotheminer on March 26, 2019, 09:32:23 AM
2 week interest, repayments daily, updates daily. Example: 1000 EUR would net you 1100 EUR in 2 weeks (with 50-100 EUR paid daily from generated income).

So now you are promoting ponzis?  :(


He described to me what his plans were for the loan proceeds, and they were not to be used for anything resembling a ponzi.

What he described involved taking advantage of a limited time promotion being offered by a new business. The business would be trusted with the entire 5,000 EUR, and there is a chance the terms may not be met. The value of the cryptocurrencies may also decline below the 5,000 EUR lent and this is another risk.

The business in question is not one that I would trust with 500 EUR, and I am not entirely sure it is an entirely separate entity from marcotheminer. I have never heard of this business prior to me speaking with marcotheminer about this loan.

He claims to be unemployed and does not appear to have the means to repay the loan including interest if one or more of the above risks are realized.
If I completely ignore the fact that his
recent loan history is an indication (he is) intending on eventually () tak(ing) out a large loan and run(ning) away
then I would conclude this is a bad idea to participate in this loan. I do not think it is an acceptable risk to ignore that his loan history indicates he will take the large loan and run away.

tl;dr - not a ponzi, still a very bad idea to lend to him

That's a huge compliment: I would never be able to create that site. Did you even do your research into it? Let me guess, no, because you weren't serious about it.

I'm about as unemployed as any entrepreneur.

If you are so skeptical don't bother inquiring, I'm making my money - just could be making more with extra capital. For all the reasons I can show.

The very bad idea thought stems from me repaying 2 loans late and with extra interest, mull over that. This is an entirely different income opportunity (not what I was doing with the 0.02-0.05BTC loans I was taking, some of those were even for personal expenses.)

2 week interest, repayments daily, updates daily. Example: 1000 EUR would net you 1100 EUR in 2 weeks (with 50-100 EUR paid daily from generated income).

So now you are promoting ponzis?  :(


No


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on March 27, 2019, 12:36:33 AM


I'm about as unemployed as any entrepreneur.


Do you have a job? Do you have any income besides your anticipated income from this venture?

I would also want to know why you trusted me with the details of your plan. You don't know me, except that you asked me to promise to keep the details of your plan confidential.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: marcotheminer on March 27, 2019, 02:46:12 AM


I'm about as unemployed as any entrepreneur.


Do you have a job? Do you have any income besides your anticipated income from this venture?

I would also want to know why you trusted me with the details of your plan. You don't know me, except that you asked me to promise to keep the details of your plan confidential.

I trust people, at least try to if there's a hint of confidence to be found.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on March 27, 2019, 03:17:17 AM


I'm about as unemployed as any entrepreneur.


Do you have a job? Do you have any income besides your anticipated income from this venture?


I would like to repeat this question. Thanks.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: marcotheminer on March 27, 2019, 08:32:06 AM


I'm about as unemployed as any entrepreneur.


Do you have a job? Do you have any income besides your anticipated income from this venture?


I would like to repeat this question. Thanks.

What's next, full autopsy?


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: codehtcmail on March 27, 2019, 09:04:25 AM
I see you're asking for a serious lender, I have to ask you, do you consider yourself a serious borrower, as in have you been making steady and prompt repayments on your previous loans to ask for a "big" loan of 3,000 to 5,000 EUR ?


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: suchmoon on March 27, 2019, 01:28:11 PM
I'm about as unemployed as any entrepreneur.
Do you have a job? Do you have any income besides your anticipated income from this venture?
I would like to repeat this question. Thanks.
What's next, full autopsy?

Borrower's income is quite important for evaluating the risk although in this case it's not gonna change a thing. C- for not lying at least.

We can't really do an autopsy unless you're dead. Are you dead? That also would affect the risk.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: jonsi on March 27, 2019, 03:10:01 PM
I'm about as unemployed as any entrepreneur.
Do you have a job? Do you have any income besides your anticipated income from this venture?
I would like to repeat this question. Thanks.
What's next, full autopsy?

Borrower's income is quite important for evaluating the risk although in this case it's not gonna change a thing. C- for not lying at least.

We can't really do an autopsy unless you're dead. Are you dead? That also would affect the risk.


Don't bother to explain. OP is deliberately ignoring legit questions. Mine also was ignored twice.

If the loan would be legit, OP would engage in discussion and answer questions to prove his credibility.

Based on his shady behaviour I think that OP is atempting an exit scam. I would advice everyone to stay away from this.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: marcotheminer on March 27, 2019, 04:10:04 PM
I'm about as unemployed as any entrepreneur.
Do you have a job? Do you have any income besides your anticipated income from this venture?
I would like to repeat this question. Thanks.
What's next, full autopsy?

Borrower's income is quite important for evaluating the risk although in this case it's not gonna change a thing. C- for not lying at least.

We can't really do an autopsy unless you're dead. Are you dead? That also would affect the risk.


Don't bother to explain. OP is deliberately ignoring legit questions. Mine also was ignored twice.

If the loan would be legit, OP would engage in discussion and answer questions to prove his credibility.

Based on his shady behaviour I think that OP is atempting an exit scam. I would advice everyone to stay away from this.

I haven't seen any post of yours. I'll find it now.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on March 27, 2019, 04:53:33 PM
@OP: In the event that you "get hit by a bus", how would the lender be able to recoup his loaned ammount?

If I disappear with the money, people either track me down or yeah the money is gone. That's the same situation with 99% of loans here.

Lots of loans here the borrower provides collateral so the lender doesn’t have to chase the borrower if he disappears. You don’t provide collateral so it isn’t the same situation as 99% of loans here.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: marcotheminer on March 27, 2019, 07:50:29 PM
@OP: In the event that you "get hit by a bus", how would the lender be able to recoup his loaned ammount?

If I disappear with the money, people either track me down or yeah the money is gone. That's the same situation with 99% of loans here.

Lots of loans here the borrower provides collateral so the lender doesn’t have to chase the borrower if he disappears. You don’t provide collateral so it isn’t the same situation as 99% of loans here.

I see where you're coming from. Anyway, if I had something to put up for collateral I would convert it to liquid.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on March 28, 2019, 04:36:50 AM


I'm about as unemployed as any entrepreneur.


Do you have a job? Do you have any income besides your anticipated income from this venture?


I would like to repeat this question. Thanks.

What's next, full autopsy?
Answering this very basic question should address at least one part of my above concerns (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5123782.msg50318313#msg50318313).

As it stands right now, even if one were to operate under the assumption that you are an upstanding person with impeccable and unimpeachable reputation, this loan would be a very bad idea to participate in as a lender. I am giving you the opportunity to try to change that.

I believe the comment made (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5123782.msg50334401#msg50334401) by codehtcmail (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815571) is very interesting. I do not believe you are acting like a serious borrower when responding to enquries.


Title: Re: Closed
Post by: marcotheminer on March 30, 2019, 05:32:28 PM
Closed.