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Title: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: david121 on March 24, 2019, 08:52:52 AM
I think the same. Internet connection was a myth to get in, I think. Even people with 10 GBPS RDX were not able to make a purchase.
Do you think they weren't lucky too? Leave this RDX thing. Have a look at...

https://media.giphy.com/media/65R0gUGuzFY9k10Qll/giphy.gif
Guess what? How many of 'em actually got in? I'll leave it here.

Anyone who made it that day, comment here. Can you smell something shady or its just frustration? 🤣🤣


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: kindbtc on March 24, 2019, 09:31:37 AM
Do not forget that binance is the number one crypto exchange at the moment with largest user base, highest volume and liquidity that too coupled with pro active ceo amd active team all this adds up to be very impactful and selling an ico instantly does not seem to be a problem for them and it is great that they are exploring and dominating new sub niches within the crypto ecosystem.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: tranduong123 on March 24, 2019, 11:21:59 AM
Binance has updated the way they sell the IEO, and it seems that the smaller investors will find it harder to buy the IEO of Binance.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: mrdeposit on March 24, 2019, 11:35:09 AM
I guess I was also cheated in the last IEO. In fact, according to the statistics explained by CZ, the participants of IEO were 3100. And the hardcap was 4mln, which means that just the highest depositors were accepted.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: david121 on March 24, 2019, 02:29:57 PM
Do not forget that binance is the number one crypto exchange at the moment with largest user base, highest volume and liquidity that too coupled with pro active ceo amd active team all this adds up to be very impactful and selling an ico instantly does not seem to be a problem for them and it is great that they are exploring and dominating new sub niches within the crypto ecosystem.

Why would I remember its position in first place? Yes, it has the largest volume and user base but that doen't justify the case I opened. You can do a research by asking "who got in for CELER" in highest active groups and you will have the answer. I am in many quality groups where a very few(less than 0.5%) people actually made it and hence question arises who actually were allowed?

And, today's announcement of lottery based launchpad participation clearly indicates the manipulation of BNB. Just check out the chart just after the announcement. Pro active CEO seems mad after his BNB price and position on CMC increment, nothing else! I do like their interface and efforts toward bringing crypto to masses by implementing CC:Crypo purchase. But one can clearly see that they do provide more attention towards filling their pockets than spreading crypto.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: Lagduf on March 24, 2019, 02:32:37 PM
I think the same. Internet connection was a myth to get in, I think. Even people with 10 GBPS RDX were not able to make a purchase.
Do you think they weren't lucky too? Leave it RDX thing. Have a look at...

https://media.giphy.com/media/65R0gUGuzFY9k10Qll/giphy.gif
Guess what? How many of 'em actually got in? I'll leave it here.

Anyone who made it that day, comment here. Can you smell something shady or its just frustration? 🤣🤣
I have been using fast internet too but still can't able to buy a single penny of celer token. This doesn't make sense at all and i believe cz was creating millions money by creating a pump for IEO token. Let's take a look at BTT and FET. that's enough to be a really strong proof


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: david121 on March 24, 2019, 07:13:54 PM
I think the same. Internet connection was a myth to get in, I think. Even people with 10 GBPS RDX were not able to make a purchase.
Do you think they weren't lucky too? Leave it RDX thing. Have a look at...

https://media.giphy.com/media/65R0gUGuzFY9k10Qll/giphy.gif
Guess what? How many of 'em actually got in? I'll leave it here.

Anyone who made it that day, comment here. Can you smell something shady or its just frustration? 🤣🤣
I have been using fast internet too but still can't able to buy a single penny of celer token. This doesn't make sense at all and i believe cz was creating millions money by creating a pump for IEO token. Let's take a look at BTT and FET. that's enough to be a really strong proof

That's what I am trying to say here. And artificial manipulation is against the law as well. As aforementioned, who are those people who actually got in as we don't know the fact and community is denying that they succeeded too. I didn't participate BTT and FET sale so I don't know the numbers buy I should do the math for CELER for sure.

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I guess I was also cheated in the last IEO. In fact, according to the statistics explained by CZ, the participants of IEO were 3100. And the hardcap was 4mln, which means that just the highest depositors were accepted.
It seems there are a few people with a similar mindset.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: madnessteat on March 24, 2019, 08:28:49 PM
I'm shocked what a fuss is happening around Binance exchange. They very skillfully raise interest in their token. It reminds me of 2017 when ethereum grew in price. I alone think that such games are very dangerous?


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: bitc0000 on March 24, 2019, 09:06:00 PM
Cryptocurency is truly an avenue for financial empowerment without government interference. CZ is only a shrewd business man who understands the connection between innovation, opportunity, idea implementation and money. IEOs just like ICOs will pass one day but be rest assured that it is to something better


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: david121 on March 25, 2019, 05:15:49 AM
I'm shocked what a fuss is happening around Binance exchange. They very skillfully raise interest in their token. It reminds me of 2017 when ethereum grew in price. I alone think that such games are very dangerous?

It's a serious fuss I believe. Someone gotta drag CZ here to clear community's questions.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: Bttzed03 on March 25, 2019, 06:02:31 AM
Binance has updated the way they sell the IEO, and it seems that the smaller investors will find it harder to buy the IEO of Binance.

Yeah, I just read that. IEOs at Binance is turning into a private sale for ICOs where minimum investments are required. I won't be surprised if they changed it again in the future.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: Boombull on March 25, 2019, 07:29:30 AM
The guy is a business man and the intention of every business tycoon is to make profits. The guy is a genius and like the way he is running his platform, others need to learn from him because he has truly done more for our industry.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: clonely on March 25, 2019, 07:37:34 AM
I think the same. Internet connection was a myth to get in, I think. Even people with 10 GBPS RDX were not able to make a purchase.
Do you think they weren't lucky too? Leave this RDX thing. Have a look at...

https://media.giphy.com/media/65R0gUGuzFY9k10Qll/giphy.gif
Guess what? How many of 'em actually got in? I'll leave it here.

Anyone who made it that day, comment here. Can you smell something shady or its just frustration? 🤣🤣

This issue began to attract a lot of attention, and Binance announced yesterday that it will use the exchange rate method for the IEOs to be held later yesterday. So, the participants will be determined by lot. So this is a better method? Are the winners of the exchange clear? How do we know that only the accounts he wants won? I think there is a mistake in this work again.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: david121 on March 25, 2019, 06:55:20 PM
I think the same. Internet connection was a myth to get in, I think. Even people with 10 GBPS RDX were not able to make a purchase.
Do you think they weren't lucky too? Leave this RDX thing. Have a look at...

https://media.giphy.com/media/65R0gUGuzFY9k10Qll/giphy.gif
Guess what? How many of 'em actually got in? I'll leave it here.

Anyone who made it that day, comment here. Can you smell something shady or its just frustration? 🤣🤣

This issue began to attract a lot of attention, and Binance announced yesterday that it will use the exchange rate method for the IEOs to be held later yesterday. So, the participants will be determined by lot. So this is a better method? Are the winners of the exchange clear? How do we know that only the accounts he wants won? I think there is a mistake in this work again.

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This issue began to attract a lot of attention
There won't be any attention until medial mentions it. Its just we - a few people talking shit.

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Binance announced yesterday that it will use the exchange rate method for the IEOs to be held later yesterday. So, the participants will be determined by lot. So this is a better method? Are the winners of the exchange clear? How do we know that only the accounts he wants won? I think there is a mistake in this work again.
First of all, it's not called mistake, money-making strategy would be a suitable word. Yes, like the CELER, we won't know how they pulled random numbers for the lottery. I stopped participating any fcfs scheme of binance.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: cytpoway121 on March 25, 2019, 07:02:13 PM
The truth is that nobody does anything good for free
So definitely binance is going to earn for hosting the ieo crowdfunding event

And ofcourse you can’t sell ieo tokens to 100$ buyer when you have a 1000$ buyer
It’s automated; but not everyone is aware

The bot pick the orders to sell to


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: UnruffledST on March 25, 2019, 07:27:22 PM
The truth is that nobody does anything good for free
So definitely binance is going to earn for hosting the ieo crowdfunding event

And ofcourse you can’t sell ieo tokens to 100$ buyer when you have a 1000$ buyer
It’s automated; but not everyone is aware

The bot pick the orders to sell to

That stupid it makes it more centralized

so you would rather sell to 70 people who can fill the order versus to 30k it should be reversered small orders first don't get why people support this clown show. Also I imagine there where only around 70 buyers or less to fill this so called 4mil sale which could easily be completed by such a low number.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: tabas on March 25, 2019, 07:36:31 PM
What can you expect? they won't do something for free.  :)


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: dizzy1996 on March 25, 2019, 07:38:06 PM
We should remember that binance is the largest project with the largest user base and in fact we were convinced that the system of this exchange is not technically ready for such an influx of users.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: AgentZero23 on March 25, 2019, 07:39:57 PM
So far all IEO's have launched in Binance are sold out and even if participate in the toke sale you will not be able to buy. Those chinese investors are just to fast and have been on their computer to wait for the token sale to start. BNB token is also have a massive gain of price outperforming the rest. The price increase are tied with their sucessful IEO's.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: AlekseyCrypto on March 25, 2019, 07:48:21 PM
I think that when the IEO will be regulated and give reports to the SEC such manipulations in the market will be impossible.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: Herbert2020 on March 25, 2019, 10:00:37 PM
i don't really follow this shitshow to know about this particular case you are mentioning here but i have to say in the past there have been lots of cases of money laundering through these types of coin offerings. basically they release a fake ICO (and now IEO) and then put their own dirty money in it through fake accounts and since things are all anonymous and unregulated they can get away with it and then you see suddenly without anybody else participating, the positions were filled! that is because they are washing their dirty money.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: WalkerIVIV on March 25, 2019, 11:06:42 PM
i don't really follow this shitshow to know about this particular case you are mentioning here but i have to say in the past there have been lots of cases of money laundering through these types of coin offerings. basically they release a fake ICO (and now IEO) and then put their own dirty money in it through fake accounts and since things are all anonymous and unregulated they can get away with it and then you see suddenly without anybody else participating, the positions were filled! that is because they are washing their dirty money.
They are washing it and make it even more. Two times i tried to participate in FET and CELR but i always got stuck when trying to enter the amounts. Some people have the same problem with me too. This one just like yobit. IEO just like a rumour, because washing some millions of dollars is so easy for binance.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: jcarlo on March 25, 2019, 11:54:21 PM
CZ doing a great job with binance and i think he deserve a one. He build biggest exchanger only in 2 years and i think its not easy and need dedication. I am believe with more strategy and more good coin listed, binance could be center on crypto exchange


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: Amalker on March 26, 2019, 04:38:19 AM
Most of Celer IEO tokens was bought by several bots, because they much more faster then than participation by hands. Lottery is also unfair to a small investors.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: r1a2y3m4 on March 26, 2019, 04:42:51 AM
I guess I was also cheated in the last IEO. In fact, according to the statistics explained by CZ, the participants of IEO were 3100. And the hardcap was 4mln, which means that just the highest depositors were accepted.
Of course they will accept more from high deposits. And CZ's pocket has been filled with lots of money since the beginning of binance. It is a very successful work by him and having IEO on his platform, it's sure that he's been filling up his pocket more and more. Since, all of the projects handled by binance has been a success, more and more projects will go to binance. Then of course more money will enter CZ's pocket.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on March 26, 2019, 05:43:33 AM
No he isn't, he's doing the community more good than harm, so far, all IEO (initial exchange offering) carryout on the exchange has been successful and all sold out. If not you deposited but couldn't buy the tokens that mean it was in high demand as we have over thousands of active traders on the exchange ready to buy through IEO as it brings some can of trust into crowdfunding.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: Menawi12 on March 26, 2019, 06:10:38 AM
No he isn't, he's doing the community more good than harm, so far, all IEO (initial exchange offering) carryout on the exchange has been successful and all sold out. If not you deposited but couldn't buy the tokens that mean it was in high demand as we have over thousands of active traders on the exchange ready to buy through IEO as it brings some can of trust into crowdfunding.

Agree, binance launchpad looks profitable, the price always increse more than 200% after listing on exchanger. Its very normal if CZ want to filling his pocket because he already work very hard to build one of biggest exchanger in crypto space


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: sujonali1819 on March 27, 2019, 06:10:31 AM
I did not try to buy during IEO yet. But I have seen many place that people are talking against the last IEO that they can not buy the coin despite of high speed internet connection. They also said site asking reload but after reload logged out.   Even people were complaing  about the issue by commenting  on their twitter. I don't think the right cause but may be had any problem with server. But if the problem will remain in the next IEO, then we can think it was a cheat.  Thanks


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 27, 2019, 03:21:32 PM
Somehow, I got a headache to see that image, and it's turn over and over hahaha

I am trying to buy the first IEO in bittrex but unfortunately, before bittrex open the sale, the IEO is closed so I am happy because I don't use my money to buy ;D

But I don't know what is happening in Binance because I miss the time for buying IEO in that site.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: shakesbear on March 27, 2019, 04:03:59 PM
Of my friends 1/10 was able to buy tokens that day, he said he just updated the page again, when i know it and try updated it was too late. I hope CZ will fight with bots.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: Olatunjex on March 27, 2019, 04:28:40 PM
Binance should make the purchase of IEO more free and fair for every participants, the three IEO binance have done people ar complaining of it not being free and fair and they are sold out in the blink of an eye. I think they should let us buy using smart contract this will make it open and free too all.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: david121 on March 27, 2019, 04:55:06 PM
Of my friends 1/10 was able to buy tokens that day, he said he just updated the page again, when i know it and try updated it was too late. I hope CZ will fight with bots.

CZ will fight with bots? What if he is being bots in the first place? Who will fight with him? lol!


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: Thomas-s on March 28, 2019, 02:34:08 PM
Binance should make the purchase of IEO more free and fair for every participants, the three IEO binance have done people ar complaining of it not being free and fair and they are sold out in the blink of an eye. I think they should let us buy using smart contract this will make it open and free too all.
this will not happen because all the actions of the exchanges in these ieo are not honest and I think that people need to stop participating in them


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: blokklanc on March 29, 2019, 11:53:25 PM
Of course, they are filling their pockets on many ways. They invented  this model and it is a good one and
Binance should have it`s own piece of cake.


Title: Re: Is CZ filling his pocket by this IEO thing?
Post by: redsun114 on March 30, 2019, 08:03:01 PM
IEO is relatively knew and it might be very difficult to identify shaddy activities until it has gotten to a certain level, so we cannot come to any conclusion if IEO is just a means now of companies enriching their pocket, or it is actually because they are ready to bring a new thing to the table, but I can assure us that with time we would begin to know the main reason why companies are now running IEO and leaving the ICO market.