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Economy => Reputation => Topic started by: JSRAW on March 26, 2019, 04:04:56 AM



Title: Lassie=zupdawg (potential Alt of same person-merit abuser) Need assistance!
Post by: JSRAW on March 26, 2019, 04:04:56 AM
Today I was monitoring "BitBlender Signature Campaign" thread for signature space. then I noticed someone posted ( Member rank with 97 merits) that he-she needed spreadsheet's link. so i posted a spreadsheet link on the thread. after a couple of minutes, user profile changed from Member to Full member.

Out of genuine curiosity, I clicked on the user profile and saw his-her merit report and found out that he-she received merit for the Bounty Ann thread, which is completely fine. Then I noticed next post on the same thread. Lassie received 50 merits from the same User in same thread a few months back. (Looks shady)

Merit reciever: Lassie : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1202244

Sender: zupdawg : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815389 ( Already marked Red for ICO bumping)

Last time Sender was online during Jan-feb 2019 and today he-she came online just to give Lassie 5 merits on thread which was posted in May 2018. (Now Member-to Full member)

I am aware of that its not a solid proof but its not a coincidence as well. I already notified the Bounty manager in this regard but as of now i failed to find any hard evidence that both accounts belong to the same person, that's why I am posting here so that best users (detective) can have a look at this case.

Note : Lassie is saving all his s-merits as of now (which is fine but you guys can guess what's that means).  he-she only spent his-her merit one time and guess what receiver was the same user "zupdawg"  

BPIP : https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Lassie


Title: Re: Lassie=zupdawg (potential Alt of same person-merit abuser) Need assistance!
Post by: hacker1001101001 on March 26, 2019, 05:18:01 AM
There is no connection of any common crypto address or social media account between Lassie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1202244) and zupdawg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815389).

I have seen another case of such merit transaction were a bounty manger experienced some unknown merit transactions and he thought it could be an abuse later.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116827.0

I dont think there is any evidence of merit abuse here too and as Lassie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1202244) is also a bounty manager and Bounty thread launcher, he could get some unknown merit transactions.


Title: Re: Lassie=zupdawg (potential Alt of same person-merit abuser) Need assistance!
Post by: JSRAW on March 26, 2019, 08:00:16 AM
So Its safe to say that Bounty Managers got upper hand in that regard because they know almost all loopholes and they can come clean in the same scenario easily?

But it looks clear to me that Lassie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1202244) and zupdawg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815389) know each other because they sent merit on each other's Ann thread, so unknown merit transaction shouldn't be an excuse here.

@Lassie is a participant in the BTC campaign so there must be some game going on between them otherwise why would @zupdawg coming online after 2 months and the first thing he did was, finding @Lassie's old Ann thread and then sending merit to the same thread again.

Now that would be interesting to see if @Lassie sends his-her all merits to a new account in the next couple of months or year :D


Title: Re: Lassie=zupdawg (potential Alt of same person-merit abuser) Need assistance!
Post by: LoyceV on March 26, 2019, 08:01:32 AM
Although I agree it looks suspicious, I'd say this is one of those things theymos said not to lose any sleep over. There is obviously going to be some Merit abuse, but in the long run it's a small amount. Most spammers can't rank up anymore.


Title: Re: Lassie=zupdawg (potential Alt of same person-merit abuser) Need assistance!
Post by: hacker1001101001 on March 26, 2019, 08:26:59 AM
@Lassie is a participant in the BTC campaign so there must be some game going on between them otherwise why would @zupdawg coming online after 2 months and the first thing he did was, finding @Lassie's old Ann thread and then sending merit to the same thread again.

Yes, I agree this looks like an merit abuse for sure as no one would just wake up to merit an ANN thread after such a long time.

But we cannot pass a judgement as we have very little proofs of the abuse happening. As I said we need some connections between both the accounts to get to a conclusion other wise this would just end up with nothing.


Title: Re: Lassie=zupdawg (potential Alt of same person-merit abuser) Need assistance!
Post by: coinlocket$ on March 26, 2019, 10:38:32 AM
Let's seem something more

Merit sent by Lassie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1202244) from January 24, 2018 until March 22, 2019 (source (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1202244.html))

http://loyce.club/Merit/history/img/1202244_red.gif
Fri Nov  9 00:08:38 2018: 2 to zupdawg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815389) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/815389.html)) for [PH]Moon Forum - The Ultimate Crypto Forum, with responsive design and much more (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5060451.msg47443929#msg47443929)



Merit received by Lassie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1202244) from January 24, 2018 until March 22, 2019 (source (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1202244.html))

http://loyce.club/Merit/history/img/1202244_blue.gif
Mon Mar 18 13:41:20 2019: 1 from cabalism13 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1605387) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1605387.html))for Re: Bitcoin Charity Programs - Filipino Community (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5121638.msg50211681#msg50211681)
Fri Mar  8 23:00:36 2019: 1 from lienfaye (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=814393) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/814393.html))for Re: Cebuana not accepting Bitcoin Cash-outs in Coins.ph (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118357.msg50072741#msg50072741)
Fri Mar  8 14:45:58 2019: 1 from crwth (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=914465) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/914465.html))for Re: Cebuana not accepting Bitcoin Cash-outs in Coins.ph (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118357.msg50072741#msg50072741)
Tue Feb 12 05:40:36 2019: 2 from zupdawg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815389) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/815389.html))for Re: Earn Cryptocurrency Without Spending (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106254.msg49659068#msg49659068)
Thu Feb  7 16:56:27 2019: 1 from Experia (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=922188) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/922188.html))for Re: UNIONBANK LAUNCHES THE FIRST CRYPTO ATM in the PHILIPPINES!! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5107090.msg49624287#msg49624287)
Mon Feb  4 02:55:49 2019: 1 from Muzika (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=909065) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/909065.html))for Filipino Designer for ANN|BOUNTY|SIGNATURE Designs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104746.msg49525278#msg49525278)
Tue Jan 22 11:35:57 2019: 1 from Questat (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=772014) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/772014.html))for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100658.msg49363220#msg49363220)
Sat Jun  2 20:48:41 2018: 1 from orarider (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=309807) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/309807.html))for [BOUNTY] CRYPTOCARZ - THE WORLD'S FIRST BLOCKCHAIN-ENABLED VR RACING EXPERIENCE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3406762.msg35660309#msg35660309)
Mon May 21 14:13:05 2018: 50 from zupdawg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815389) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/815389.html))for Re: [BOUNTY]Orvium - Open and Transparent Science Powered By Blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3565166.msg36411025#msg36411025)
Thu May 17 19:38:07 2018: 1 from multic2012 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1221493) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1221493.html))for [BOUNTY]FlipNpik - 1ST COLLABORATIVE SOCIAL MEDIA FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES- 3000 ETH (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3412954.msg35694977#msg35694977)
Thu May 10 11:54:51 2018: 1 from Kerokeroppi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=999368) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/999368.html))for [CLOSED]Cardstack - Experience Layer of Blockchain. Up to $350K (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2805234.msg28696151#msg28696151)
Thu May 10 10:30:18 2018: 5 from josepherick (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=990979) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/990979.html))for [BOUNTY]FlipNpik - 1ST COLLABORATIVE SOCIAL MEDIA FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES- 3000 ETH (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3412954.msg35694977#msg35694977)
Wed May  9 19:21:31 2018: 4 from leckiyow (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=991039) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/991039.html))for [CLOSED]Cardstack - Experience Layer of Blockchain. Up to $350K (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2805234.msg28696151#msg28696151)
Tue May  1 01:14:06 2018: 5 from Flexibit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=922187) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/922187.html))for [BOUNTY] CRYPTOCARZ - THE WORLD'S FIRST BLOCKCHAIN-ENABLED VR RACING EXPERIENCE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3406762.msg35660309#msg35660309)
Sat Apr 28 02:44:00 2018: 2 from Polar91 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947291) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/947291.html))for [BOUNTY]FlipNpik - 1ST COLLABORATIVE SOCIAL MEDIA FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES- 3000 ETH (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3412954.msg35694977#msg35694977)
Mon Apr 23 06:50:10 2018: 2 from xYakult (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=922214) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/922214.html))for [CLOSED]EQUI - Bridging Crypto with VC. $2.5M USD in Rewards!! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2888537.msg29689372#msg29689372)
Wed Apr 18 18:13:23 2018: 1 from 4gu5dr4g0n (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=371610) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/371610.html))for [CLOSED]Helbiz - Decentralizing Transportation. Presale Live! 3% up to 1.8K ETH! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2853690.msg29278533#msg29278533)
Thu Mar 29 22:20:24 2018: 1 from nikola22 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1028592) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1028592.html))for [BOUNTY]DataBroker DAO - Marketplace for IoT Sensor Data. 281 ETH in rewards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2909180.msg29916386#msg29916386)
Tue Mar 13 11:12:21 2018: 1 from mocacinno (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=405464) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/405464.html))for Re: Looking for BTC transaction to be confirmed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3109649.msg32152084#msg32152084)
Mon Mar 12 19:07:29 2018: 1 from Xynerise (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1250855) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1250855.html))for Re: Looking for BTC transaction to be confirmed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3109649.msg32152084#msg32152084)
Mon Mar  5 06:47:07 2018: 1 from ivan1975 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=220998) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/220998.html))for [CLOSED]EQUI - Bridging Crypto with VC. $2.5M USD in Rewards!! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2888537.msg29689372#msg29689372)
Sun Feb 18 10:48:25 2018: 2 from tyoA7X (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=244076) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/244076.html))for [CLOSED]Helbiz - Decentralizing Transportation. Presale Live! 3% up to 1.8K ETH! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2853690.msg29278533#msg29278533)
Sat Feb 10 04:58:40 2018: 2 from Cimmy_revenger (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=919997) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/919997.html))for [CLOSED]Helbiz - Decentralizing Transportation. Presale Live! 3% up to 1.8K ETH! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2853690.msg29278533#msg29278533)
Fri Feb  9 02:46:05 2018: 1 from Bitkoyns (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=921760) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/921760.html))for [CLOSED]EQUI - Bridging Crypto with VC. $2.5M USD in Rewards!! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2888537.msg29689372#msg29689372)
Sun Feb  4 16:01:21 2018: 4 from Fastserv (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=774239) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/774239.html))for [CLOSED]Helbiz - Decentralizing Transportation. Presale Live! 3% up to 1.8K ETH! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2853690.msg29278533#msg29278533)
Sat Feb  3 00:16:42 2018: 1 from malibubaby (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1029753) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1029753.html))for [CLOSED]Helbiz - Decentralizing Transportation. Presale Live! 3% up to 1.8K ETH! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2853690.msg29278533#msg29278533)
Thu Feb  1 01:15:31 2018: 2 from dimox (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=407887) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/407887.html))for [CLOSED]Helbiz - Decentralizing Transportation. Presale Live! 3% up to 1.8K ETH! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2853690.msg29278533#msg29278533)


Now the sender

Merit sent by zupdawg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815389) from January 24, 2018 until March 22, 2019 (source (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/815389.html))

http://loyce.club/Merit/history/img/815389_red.gif
Tue Feb 12 05:40:36 2019: 2 to Lassie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1202244) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1202244.html)) for Re: Earn Cryptocurrency Without Spending (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106254.msg49659068#msg49659068)
Mon May 21 14:13:05 2018: 50 to Lassie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1202244) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1202244.html)) for Re: [BOUNTY]Orvium - Open and Transparent Science Powered By Blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3565166.msg36411025#msg36411025)



Merit received by zupdawg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815389) from January 24, 2018 until March 22, 2019 (source (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/815389.html))

http://loyce.club/Merit/history/img/815389_blue.gif
Sat Dec  1 08:37:30 2018: 1 from elegant_joylin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=917890) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/917890.html))for [PH]Moon Forum - The Ultimate Crypto Forum, with responsive design and much more (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5060451.msg47443929#msg47443929)
Fri Nov 30 01:37:01 2018: 5 from s1lverbox (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=152126) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/152126.html))for Re: [ANN]📈 DIGISWAP.IO 📉 INSTANT CRYPTO EXCHANGE *Cross swaps* !!!We are live!!! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5077870.msg48336664#msg48336664)
Fri Nov  9 00:08:38 2018: 2 from Lassie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1202244) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1202244.html))for [PH]Moon Forum - The Ultimate Crypto Forum, with responsive design and much more (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5060451.msg47443929#msg47443929)


I think you need to find something more.