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Title: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Jenniraye88 on March 26, 2019, 10:37:31 AM
Hi - anyone else using Game Protect to enforce their claim regarding the Curacao license scam? I instructed them over 3 months ago and paid 5% of my claim to them up front but am struggling to get any specific information about the progress. I have to chase them every 3-4 weeks for an update but always get a response which sounds like they're annoyed i'm even chasing... Anyone else having the same issue? I know this isn't something that can be sorted overnight but a courtesy e-mail every couple of weeks to let me know how they're getting on and what the expected timeline is would be appreciated - they have been paid after all.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: UserU on March 26, 2019, 10:53:46 AM
I hate to break it to you, but many members are against GP because of its racketeering form of conducting businesses. In case you haven't noticed, GP has its own thread here.

That's from my observation, I'll let the rest speak their minds.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Bitinity on March 26, 2019, 11:00:29 AM
I dont understand why did you choose Game Protect service and paid up front while I have never seen any issues solved by them unless I missed it. I do not even think there is a bitcointalk member used their service before. Sorry to say, but I think there is no one can help you here. Gameprotect has very bad reputation in this forum as you can see in his bitcointalk account profile.
Why you did not try to solve the issue with the site where you play? Does the site ignore you so you try to find a help from gameprotect?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: alisafidel58 on March 26, 2019, 11:03:44 AM
This is going to be bad news for you buddy but GameProtect (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=874254) is a scam.






 Go here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254) to visit his trust rating and you can evaluate for yourself from other people who rated him.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: edisystem on March 26, 2019, 11:26:00 AM
I can't believe people still trust and choose game-protect (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=874254), why though? I mean, his account clearly on red trust and "Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" Why still trust him.

Rip your money man, open a thread about this scam on scam accusations section and good luck, i'm not sure you can get your money back.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: shield132 on March 26, 2019, 12:04:12 PM
Finally, after some years someone tried game-protect but can't say this choise was good one.
@game-protect can you confirm that this user really contacted you and please can you give us more detail information? How much was claimed account, if you ever return it and if yes, then how, what processes were involved, documents and etc.
Wish you luck OP


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: spadormie on March 26, 2019, 01:44:18 PM
I dont understand why did you choose Game Protect service and paid up front while I have never seen any issues solved by them unless I missed it. I do not even think there is a bitcointalk member used their service before. Sorry to say, but I think there is no one can help you here. Gameprotect has very bad reputation in this forum as you can see in his bitcointalk account profile.
Why you did not try to solve the issue with the site where you play? Does the site ignore you so you try to find a help from gameprotect?
True, gameprotect is very untrustworthy in this forum and so as their services. No member in this forum will ever try to get on to their site, since we knew that GP has a lot of negative trust. Btw what is Curacao?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Jenniraye88 on March 26, 2019, 01:53:58 PM
Game Protect - my ticket number is 171.

For everyone else, the reason i resorted to Game Protect is because the Casino in question never replied to any of my e-mails/complaints for months and months. I then went to their "License Provider" who also just fobbed me off with lies. My Claim total is nearly £13k albeit GP have said they can get me 50-60% of this back. Which is more than the big fat 0 i have managed over the last few months.

However if the comments already appearing on my thread are anything to go by then it could still be a big fat 0! I will keep my thread update if/when anything actually happens but i'm over 3 months in now...


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: avikz on March 26, 2019, 01:59:12 PM
My Claim total is nearly £13k albeit GP have said they can get me 50-60% of this back. Which is more than the big fat 0 i have managed over the last few months.

Wow! Do you really believe that a person with a high negative rating can really give you 50-60% of the 13k Euro back to your pocket? Haven't you ever questioned yourself- how this can be possible??


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: UserU on March 26, 2019, 02:08:35 PM
Btw what is Curacao?

It's a Dutch Caribbean island.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Jenniraye88 on March 26, 2019, 02:10:53 PM
Game Protect - Get Paid did not want me to mention them in my thread. Nevertheless, IF you do successfully complete my claim then this comes from my overall amount anyway. So it's still paid from what i am owed.

Like i said in my first post, i am aware that these things don't happen over night, but the only time i have heard from you in 3 months is when i chase - and then i get a short sharp response. I would love to represent a success story for you on this forum and would gladly let everyone on here know if that turns out to be the case.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: marlboroza on March 26, 2019, 02:14:56 PM
1) You did not pay anything and Get-Paid.com lent you the 5% donation
It doesn't matter who lent them funds if they payed your shady service with that funds.

OP do you have transaction ID?
Why don't you contact lawyer, I suppose you got contact info of lawyer which is running your case. Can you directly contact lawyer and not Game-Protect?

I would love to represent a success story for you on this forum and would gladly let everyone on here know if that turns out to be the case.
You will have to post some proofs for that and somehow I don't think this is going to happen, just like Get-Paid "case".


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Jenniraye88 on March 26, 2019, 02:27:32 PM
Why don't you contact lawyer, I suppose you got contact info of lawyer which is running your case.

No i don't have any contact detail's for anyone other than Game Protect - and that's just an e-mail address. No name, number, post address at all.

I have kept all the e-mails i have including one from Game Protect confirming they have received the 5% of my claim up front and would start with "legal proceedings". I suppose i will just have to keep on waiting...


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: marlboroza on March 26, 2019, 02:43:40 PM
As you said that you have payed them 5% game-protect should provide information about lawyer so you can directly ask lawyer about everything you want to know about your case. But for start, can you show TxID:
I have kept all the e-mails i have including one from Game Protect confirming they have received the 5% of my claim up front and would start with "legal proceedings".
...as a proof that game-protect received funds?

Thread archived for the record http://archive.is/hFglD just in case some post disappear.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: alisafidel58 on March 26, 2019, 02:46:39 PM
Why don't you contact lawyer, I suppose you got contact info of lawyer which is running your case.

He's too stubborn to do that or better yet there's no such thing as a real lawyer in gameprotect.

No i don't have any contact detail's for anyone other than Game Protect - and that's just an e-mail address. No name, number, post address at all.

With this do you think that his service is for real? Legit companies give information details about their company.

I have kept all the e-mails i have including one from Game Protect confirming they have received the 5% of my claim up front and would start with "legal proceedings". I suppose i will just have to keep on waiting...

Sorry to say this but you are waiting for nothing.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Haunebu on March 26, 2019, 02:55:16 PM
Why don't you contact lawyer, I suppose you got contact info of lawyer which is running your case.

No i don't have any contact detail's for anyone other than Game Protect - and that's just an e-mail address. No name, number, post address at all.

I have kept all the e-mails i have including one from Game Protect confirming they have received the 5% of my claim up front and would start with "legal proceedings". I suppose i will just have to keep on waiting...
This seems like a lost case op. You should have done your research before going ahead with this process. At this stage, I feel like you might need a miracle to get out of this pickle which will most likely not happen.

Sad situation indeed, but be careful in the future.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: r1a2y3m4 on March 26, 2019, 04:21:11 PM
This is what happened to you. You have been scammed. It's not on everybody's fault, it's your fault for trusting Game Protect. As you can see, GP has a lot of negative trust. You'll just keep on chasing them, but they will get away.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Jenniraye88 on March 26, 2019, 04:32:19 PM
This is what happened to you. You have been scammed. It's not on everybody's fault, it's your fault

I'm pretty sure i haven't blamed anyone or said it's anyone's fault.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Get-Paid.com on March 26, 2019, 06:23:06 PM
Why are you saying it's a scam?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: MakeMoneyBtc on March 26, 2019, 08:34:56 PM
I don't know what to say about this but it seems like Game protect has one of the worst reputation ever on this forum and there is just no way I would give him even 1 penny from my pocket. Honestly I don't know why is he wasting his time anymore here on bitcointalk fighting with every existing casino since he knows very well that no one trust him anymore.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: tortic25 on March 26, 2019, 08:44:40 PM
My Claim total is nearly £13k albeit GP have said they can get me 50-60% of this back. Which is more than the big fat 0 i have managed over the last few months.

Wow! Do you really believe that a person with a high negative rating can really give you 50-60% of the 13k Euro back to your pocket? Haven't you ever questioned yourself- how this can be possible??



this is probably why people fall for it
https://imgur.com/a/aQRSBbD


btctalk staff hasn't only let him reach -8000trust and scam around here for years. half of the time his trust is hidden, this is the 3rd time i have found it hidden on one thread and showing on the next.
i understand allowing posters free speech and negative trust, but whens its become this clear that he doesn't have any good intentions why not ban him.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: veleten on March 26, 2019, 09:01:37 PM
Hi - anyone else using Game Protect to enforce their claim regarding the Curacao license scam? I instructed them over 3 months ago and paid 5% of my claim to them up front but am struggling to get any specific information about the progress. I have to chase them every 3-4 weeks for an update but always get a response which sounds like they're annoyed i'm even chasing... Anyone else having the same issue? I know this isn't something that can be sorted overnight but a courtesy e-mail every couple of weeks to let me know how they're getting on and what the expected timeline is would be appreciated - they have been paid after all.

you can't be serious?
first things first , you did transfer money to game protect upfront?
second thing you expect anything to be done?
well , I'm speechless , to be honest
but maybe you just have to wait after they process the hundreds of claims they are working on , who knows


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: adaseb on March 26, 2019, 09:31:07 PM
The issue is that not everybody uses Bitcointalk to find out about scams sites and other individuals that scam people. Most likely the OP find GP on some Google search and it seemed legit. The fee is low if he could of managed to get back at least half of the funds.

I think the OP should post more info about which casino took the funds from her and we can continue the investigation from there. Unless the casino is some outright scam, their funds shouldn't of been confiscated unless they tried to do something illegal like using the site to mix funds or some other type of money laundering, etc.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: $imple$imon on March 26, 2019, 10:39:10 PM
First, Im sorry for OP that he has been scammed. 

Game Protect is not a nice person, I contacted him some time ago when I didnt get payout from one of his sportbook on his website, he wanted money and told me he would not help without money upfront.

I have done a little research on this person after.  I cannot find anything about him, he hides in the shadows.  If he was for real he would be proud of the help that he gives people and stand out in the light.

I even heard one story that one of the big bookmakers is trying to find him, because he tells to many lies.

I hope for luck for the OP that if he doesnt get his money from sportsbook he gets his money back from Game Protect ( I dont think so he is a scammer )


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Initscri on March 27, 2019, 03:12:44 AM
Looks like he's gonna finally get that "Scam Accusation" thread he's always telling us to open about him.

In the past, he has suggested that anything given in an advance is called a "Donation", so I doubt he'd be willing to give the money back.

First, Im sorry for OP that he has been scammed. 

Game Protect is not a nice person, I contacted him some time ago when I didnt get payout from one of his sportbook on his website, he wanted money and told me he would not help without money upfront.

I have done a little research on this person after.  I cannot find anything about him, he hides in the shadows.  If he was for real he would be proud of the help that he gives people and stand out in the light.

I even heard one story that one of the big bookmakers is trying to find him, because he tells to many lies.

I hope for luck for the OP that if he doesnt get his money from sportsbook he gets his money back from Game Protect ( I dont think so he is a scammer )

He's from Sweden AFAIK. Edited a Wikipedia article to include his link in it as a backlink (leaving his public IP open)


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: coinplus on March 27, 2019, 08:26:58 PM
Look, we all know who game-protect is and what he does. Some of us hate him, some of us do not care about him at all (hate requires a feeling, some people don't even care so they can't really hate).

But, let's give him a chance to redeem himself on this occasion, we have never seen anyone moronic enough to use his services before, he claimed he has been helping people out millions of times but the people who use his services never come here and talk about it, he could be telling the truth or a lie and we wouldn't know because we don't know his customers.

Now, that we literally have a chance that the customer is here and he is keeping us updated, lets bring the hammer down already, either he will make this customer happy or we will see him as a person who took 5% from someone who already lost money and didn't do anything about it, basically scammed someone who was already scammed. This threat would be an amazing chance for us to see if he really is what he says he is or if he is as crooked as the casinos he goes against.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: pinoycash on March 27, 2019, 08:39:31 PM
What exactly game protect can do? Protect Users from what?

Ive seen him dropping the same message to different casino ANN asking about curacao license but no one is taking him seriously.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: xvids on March 27, 2019, 10:06:30 PM
Can't believe that even with a high negative trust and tons of negative feed back they still manage to get a client.
OP I think you should just forget about it and move on let this be a reminder to you .
And by the way why did you even try to use Game Protect?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: shield132 on March 27, 2019, 11:11:23 PM
1) You did not send anything from your pocket.

2) As soon as there is an update you will be instantly informed. If there is no update, you will not be informed, simple. I understand that you see only your case, but we handle hundreds of cases.

3) In legal proceedings 3 months is nothing and enforce claims from Curacao fake licensed casinos can be time-consuming.
Please can you tell me which "hundreds of cases" do you mean? Personally I have never seen on this forum that any case was solved with help of you. I don't know if every request comes outside of this forum but give us any proof, this is the first time I see someone is really using your service and seems this person isn't satisfied too.
Solve this problem if you stand behind your words and also give us proofs that these everything happened in reality and this isn't just a game scenario (who knows).


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: hayleewilson on March 28, 2019, 02:41:51 AM
I hope GameProtect just fires whoever they assigned to handle your complaint. Dodging your follow-ups and not doing the necessary actions promptly is simply not acceptable.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: raven7886 on March 28, 2019, 08:49:40 PM
Game-Protect doesn't hire people for writing here, he is who he is here, I mean lawyers he talk with doesn't just take his account and respond here, that is why you always have him as the middleman.

Love him or hate him you can't deny the fact that dude really doesn't come off as a cute person, he does business ruthlessly and that rubs some people off the wrong way, even if you are a "customer" for him he just doesn't hold back and that is bad bad marketing for him, when you write these type of stuff to people who help you get paid (aka the 5% "donation" that if you do not pay won't get help which makes it not a donation but a payment) that make other potential people who look to hire his services look for other options.

I understand his fury against the casinos and as I am not a casino owner I don't care its between him and them but when he acts this tough on customers I feel like even if I was scammed by a casino I would look for services by someone else because I am already scammed so why would I pay upfront and also get yelled at just to hope for a return, I can just hire a lawyer myself who won't treat me this badly after I pay him.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Initscri on March 30, 2019, 02:40:28 AM
Look, we all know who game-protect is and what he does. Some of us hate him, some of us do not care about him at all (hate requires a feeling, some people don't even care so they can't really hate).

But, let's give him a chance to redeem himself on this occasion, we have never seen anyone moronic enough to use his services before, he claimed he has been helping people out millions of times but the people who use his services never come here and talk about it, he could be telling the truth or a lie and we wouldn't know because we don't know his customers.

Now, that we literally have a chance that the customer is here and he is keeping us updated, lets bring the hammer down already, either he will make this customer happy or we will see him as a person who took 5% from someone who already lost money and didn't do anything about it, basically scammed someone who was already scammed. This threat would be an amazing chance for us to see if he really is what he says he is or if he is as crooked as the casinos he goes against.

I'd honestly be surprised to see him even jump into this thread, but yea, I would like to get his opinion on this.

I hope GameProtect just fires whoever they assigned to handle your complaint. Dodging your follow-ups and not doing the necessary actions promptly is simply not acceptable.

Pretty sure GP is a one man shop.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Gambling Domains on March 30, 2019, 06:09:13 AM
What is your support ticket number?

 ;D ;D ;D Support ticket indeed. As if you are running a giant company with "Customer Cares" departments.

Guy, you're just a kitchen desk scam artist  ;D


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: alisafidel58 on April 01, 2019, 07:17:31 AM
Bitcointalk urgently needs a brain test feature! ;)

If that feature were able to be implemented here I think you should be the first one to try it out in order to see how wicked your mind is from all the scam that you did.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: r1s2g3 on April 01, 2019, 11:30:28 AM

this is probably why people fall for it
https://imgur.com/a/aQRSBbD


btctalk staff hasn't only let him reach -8000trust and scam around here for years. half of the time his trust is hidden, this is the 3rd time i have found it hidden on one thread and showing on the next.
i understand allowing posters free speech and negative trust, but whens its become this clear that he doesn't have any good intentions why not ban him.

Because forum is not moderating scam.  Even forum do not show trust but I did not understand how someone can pay upfront to somebody (at least , use the escrow) which have no phone number and address. Most importantly where did the OP checked the reviews? isn't OP is is supposed to due diligence first?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Oceat on April 01, 2019, 01:01:40 PM
My Claim total is nearly £13k albeit GP have said they can get me 50-60% of this back. Which is more than the big fat 0 i have managed over the last few months.

Wow! Do you really believe that a person with a high negative rating can really give you 50-60% of the 13k Euro back to your pocket? Haven't you ever questioned yourself- how this can be possible??



this is probably why people fall for it
https://imgur.com/a/aQRSBbD


btctalk staff hasn't only let him reach -8000trust and scam around here for years. half of the time his trust is hidden, this is the 3rd time i have found it hidden on one thread and showing on the next.
i understand allowing posters free speech and negative trust, but whens its become this clear that he doesn't have any good intentions why not ban him.
What's the use of banning when he can make another account? And besides that, he didn't commit anything against the forum rules to get ban permanently.

I call it a fault of OP since he trusted GP without researching about their previous activity. Looking at that red trust is untrustworthy if OP only knew.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: alisafidel58 on April 01, 2019, 01:32:04 PM
I call it a fault of OP since he trusted GP without researching about their previous activity. Looking at that red trust is untrustworthy if OP only knew.

You can't blame OP here. I think that OP found the service of GP in a google search or something. If OP was a long time user of this forum then he would know who GP is and OP won't hire the service of GP.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: eckmar on April 01, 2019, 06:34:02 PM
Why isn't scam accusation thread being opened ? Person paid for services, he did not receive any service, any paper that "lawyers" are actually doing anything or that they exist. The accused can say some bullshit about legal stuff taking too long, but are there any court dates or anything that can indicate progress has been made in 3 months ?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: eckmar on April 01, 2019, 07:22:53 PM
Why isn't scam accusation thread being opened ? Person paid for services, he did not receive any service, any paper that "lawyers" are actually doing anything or that they exist. The accused can say some bullshit about legal stuff taking too long, but are there any court dates or anything that can indicate progress has been made in 3 months ?
How much did the person pay for services?

Where is proof of the payment?

So are you saying OP is a liar and he did not use your services ? Thats interesting, because you replied:

1) You did not send anything from your pocket.

2) As soon as there is an update you will be instantly informed. If there is no update, you will not be informed, simple. I understand that you see only your case, but we handle hundreds of cases.

3) In legal proceedings 3 months is nothing and enforce claims from Curacao fake licensed casinos can be time-consuming.

Excuses excuses  ;D

So you are changing your strategy from excuses to denying thats your client, interesting strategy ...  ???


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: hyunee on April 01, 2019, 08:12:38 PM
I call it a fault of OP since he trusted GP without researching about their previous activity. Looking at that red trust is untrustworthy if OP only knew.

You can't blame OP here. I think that OP found the service of GP in a google search or something. If OP was a long time user of this forum then he would know who GP is and OP won't hire the service of GP.
He should have dived in this forum before anything else. Maybe, he could know that GP is not a defender of gamblers. If he created an account or just browsing in here, he's safe from GP lol.

Why isn't scam accusation thread being opened ?
I guess this does not resolve anything since we know that GP is a scammer lol.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: eckmar on April 01, 2019, 08:22:47 PM
I call it a fault of OP since he trusted GP without researching about their previous activity. Looking at that red trust is untrustworthy if OP only knew.

You can't blame OP here. I think that OP found the service of GP in a google search or something. If OP was a long time user of this forum then he would know who GP is and OP won't hire the service of GP.
He should have dived in this forum before anything else. Maybe, he could know that GP is not a defender of gamblers. If he created an account or just browsing in here, he's safe from GP lol.

Why isn't scam accusation thread being opened ?
I guess this does not resolve anything since we know that GP is a scammer lol.

We do, but he always says in his thread "google game protect scam" when someone acuses him. If scam accusation thread is opened google bots will pick it up and someone who is not part of btctalk might see that and not get scammed.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on April 01, 2019, 09:53:11 PM
Hi - anyone else using Game Protect to enforce their claim regarding the Curacao license scam? I instructed them over 3 months ago and paid 5% of my claim to them up front but am struggling to get any specific information about the progress. I have to chase them every 3-4 weeks for an update but always get a response which sounds like they're annoyed i'm even chasing... Anyone else having the same issue? I know this isn't something that can be sorted overnight but a courtesy e-mail every couple of weeks to let me know how they're getting on and what the expected timeline is would be appreciated - they have been paid after all.
Did you pay them money? From what I knew they were only a Scam prevention/Scam busting service but never knew they are also involved in license related businesses with the gambling sites? Or are you the only case? How much did you pay them anyway? 5% of what?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Gambling Domains on April 03, 2019, 07:53:34 PM
Bitcointalk urgently needs a brain test feature! ;)

It would be nice if you (at least) show some level of empathy and try to resolve this matter with your customer


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Initscri on April 04, 2019, 04:21:49 PM
Bitcointalk urgently needs a brain test feature! ;)

It would be nice if you (at least) show some level of empathy and try to resolve this matter with your customer
The case is still handled by the lawyer and there is nothing to solve with my customer. :)

But this thread attracted a lot of liars and brain washers, so a brain test feature would be great! :D

Why not provide the lawyers information, so as to confirm there is a current ongoing case?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Get-Paid.com on July 11, 2019, 11:42:48 AM
1) You did not send anything from your pocket.

2) As soon as there is an update you will be instantly informed. If there is no update, you will not be informed, simple. I understand that you see only your case, but we handle hundreds of cases.

3) In legal proceedings 3 months is nothing and enforce claims from Curacao fake licensed casinos can be time-consuming.

Are there any updates in regards to this one?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Jenniraye88 on July 11, 2019, 11:48:27 AM
I have been told that there are other cases in court / being settled but not yet any specific news on my case.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: docthusinh on July 11, 2019, 03:00:55 PM
I think this topic owner failed to understand how behind the scene this service is offering. Making use of "lawyer" is just a shiny term to attract customers, more or less it is just as simple as "helping you fill the case" and act as a "point of contact" instead of you are doing that work yourself, no more. The most important thing we don't know is: in which country (of the targeted casino/scammer) his service is available, how is the authority/ level of enforcement he/they can do with this local government (at least open a case in a local court).

Better research yourself, and do it by yourself is the safest bet, i.e: you are a citizen of country A, and got scammed by a person or an entity in a country B, the first thing you would need to check: "is there any extradition agreement between the two countries", "which international law both of the countries will follow" if the two countries have no diplomatic agreements then you are hopeless.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Get-Paid.com on July 11, 2019, 03:10:11 PM

Earlier you said you paid 5% of your claim in advance. Could you please post the transaction id, and the full email (preferably with headers) of where game-protect confirms you sent him the money.

She hasn't paid directly, but someone else has invested the funds on her behalf, nonetheless she is entitled to know what's going on with the case.
It did take quite a long time, let's allow GameProtect to respond first please.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: docthusinh on July 11, 2019, 03:31:35 PM

Earlier you said you paid 5% of your claim in advance. Could you please post the transaction id, and the full email (preferably with headers) of where game-protect confirms you sent him the money.

She hasn't paid directly, but someone else has invested the funds on her behalf, nonetheless she is entitled to know what's going on with the case.
It did take quite a long time, let's allow GameProtect to respond first please.


Isn't that for any court, there is a website, case status section (which you fill the number to retrieve processing status), a legit service should at least provide their customer this kind of information, where the customer can check online themself by querying the local court website with the case id provided.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Get-Paid.com on July 11, 2019, 05:48:14 PM

Isn't that for any court, there is a website, case status section (which you fill the number to retrieve processing status), a legit service should at least provide their customer this kind of information, where the customer can check online themself by querying the local court website with the case id provided.

It indeed has taken a very long time, not sure why.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Initscri on July 12, 2019, 08:19:55 AM

Earlier you said you paid 5% of your claim in advance. Could you please post the transaction id, and the full email (preferably with headers) of where game-protect confirms you sent him the money.

She hasn't paid directly, but someone else has invested the funds on her behalf, nonetheless she is entitled to know what's going on with the case.
It did take quite a long time, let's allow GameProtect to respond first please.


Isn't that for any court, there is a website, case status section (which you fill the number to retrieve processing status), a legit service should at least provide their customer this kind of information, where the customer can check online themself by querying the local court website with the case id provided.

A legitimate service wouldn't attack their clients on a public forum. Period.

@GP, Looking to give up that 5BTC for "any proof of spam" any time soon?

Like I said, you asking for a 5% upfront "donation" was going to get you eventually. I shouldn't need to remind anyone that at one point GP defended BTC as "not money", so maybe he doesn't feel accountable for this.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: marlboroza on July 12, 2019, 04:05:39 PM
I have been told that there are other cases in court / being settled but not yet any specific news on my case.
Told by who?

Did lawyer contact you or you have been contacted by game-protect?

Also can you post txID for that 5% you said you have sent to game-protect?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: kingpin4321 on July 12, 2019, 05:31:42 PM
 To many people seems to believe the fact that it is truly a scam and it would require more to convince anyone that it is really not a scam. You have been tagged to many times already by different people


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Initscri on July 24, 2019, 04:35:47 AM
Hi - anyone else using Game Protect to enforce their claim regarding the Curacao license scam? I instructed them over 3 months ago and paid 5% of my claim to them up front but am struggling to get any specific information about the progress. I have to chase them every 3-4 weeks for an update but always get a response which sounds like they're annoyed i'm even chasing... Anyone else having the same issue? I know this isn't something that can be sorted overnight but a courtesy e-mail every couple of weeks to let me know how they're getting on and what the expected timeline is would be appreciated - they have been paid after all.

Have you received any response from GP as of yet. Any update?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Lutpin on July 27, 2019, 03:14:06 PM
Several victims in contact with Game Protect referred to this defamation thread, so I feel the necessity to show the truth!
March 18, 2019 claimant appreciated getting back to her so quickly: ~snipped for personal information~
Only 8 days later on March 26, 2019 claimant opened this thread with the following false and misleading claim!
Do you routinely post pictures that contain personal information of those trusting you, like the FULL NAME of the user posting here?
I find it highly unprofessional to simply leak private details of the people trying to use your "service" without their consent.
Or are you trying to silence them and keep them from sharing their experience by leveraging the information you have about them?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Lutpin on July 27, 2019, 03:38:59 PM
How do you know the full name of the user?
Did bitcointalk admins check the identity of the user Jenniraye88 and forwarded it to you?
Whether or not the name you shared is their actual name doesn't matter. We'll assume it is correct and has no place being shared on this forum.
Or are you saying everyone should give a fake identity when contacting you? Because you happily share everything that was said to you in confidence with the general public.

How are you able to help people find legal representation, if they cannot even trust you with their legal name?
Do you see how whether or not the information you share is correct is besides the point, and the issue is that you share it without seeing any problem in it?

Instead of attacking me and deflecting, think about how much of a disservice you are doing right now to the only person who would trust you on this forum, the user that has started this thread.
They were trying to stick up for you, despite everyone telling them how much of a scammer you were. They were giving you a chance, they trusted you, and this shit is how you repay them?
What a shame.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: hopenotlate on July 27, 2019, 03:50:44 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they



Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Lutpin on July 27, 2019, 04:03:16 PM
I did not ask for her personal details and did not verify it!
How is that even relevant to the point? Regardless of whether you requested the personal details or not, you were entrusted with them.
And you made no effort whatsoever to redact the personal information when sharing private conversations in public. That is reckless.
Anyone even remotely considering to contact you should be made aware of this behaviour, because it severely limits the amount of information they might feel comfortable sharing with you.

Publicly lying and defaming Game Protect is sticking up for me
You surely also believe that killing is kissing!
Ridicule me all you want, the post of yours sharing private information is still up there.
Despite me pointing out exactly what's wrong with it, you made no effort to fix your mistake.
You had over an hour to make a simple edit and remove the information, yet you failed to do so until now.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Lutpin on July 27, 2019, 04:22:31 PM
~snip bullshit~
Forgive me for trying to talk to you like a normal human being.
I really should have known better, given the experience I have with you, and your talent to avoid answering even the most mundane questions.

Instead of simply responding to my point, quickly addressing it and being done with it,
you are trying to create logic fallacies where there are none. Youre misreading my messages and then refuting your own misunderstandings of them.
You must be trying really really hard to not make a simple edit and resolve this. It makes zero sense to me why you insist on having their full name on display up there.

However, since no discussion with you ever led anywhere, I wish you a good day.
Until our paths cross again.



Just for reference: I reported the post containing the dox and the link has since been removed by moderation. Thanks.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Kevinn22 on July 27, 2019, 08:23:46 PM
why in the hell isn't this idiot banned from the forums?
do admins exist? or are they paid off by game-protect?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Initscri on July 28, 2019, 04:00:49 AM
why in the hell isn't this idiot banned from the forums?
do admins exist? or are they paid off by game-protect?

Honestly, at this point, IDK anymore why he's able to persist on this forum.

OPs message from 4+ days ago was deleted, along with mine the minute GP jumped into this thread. So I don't know if he just spam reports messages he doesn't like until mods remove, or what.

I won't quote the message to respect the mods authority here. There may have been a reason it was deleted beyond my knowledge. But it's happened multiple times (GP comes to a thread, messages start to get deleted).

It makes zero sense to me why you insist on having their full name on display up there.
How do you know it is their full name?

It makes zero sense to me why you persist it is their full name without showing the proof?

Prooooof, the foreign word on bitcointalk!!! :D

It's honestly despicable how you pretend to be a lawyer, and then pull this sort of shit as retaliatory action. It doesn't matter what the situation is, you never release client information publicly. You pretty much just doxxed your own customer base. How anybody takes you seriously is beyond me.

You have no proof to suggest that isn't the users real name. Do you honestly think any massive/legitimate corporation would release a customers name and then say "well you don't have proof that it's not their name".

You attack casino's for all of their shenanigans, yet you are by far 10x worse.

I'd even argue that what you just did is against BitcoinTalk rules as set out directly by Theymos:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1576015.msg15823315#quickreply

The reason that doxxing has been allowed up until now is that it's occasionally very useful in scam investigations. However, oftentimes doxxing someone is used as a weapon in itself instead of a part of any investigation, and as a result innocent people are sometimes hurt. So to protect the innocent while hopefully not hampering scam investigations too much, here are some new rules on doxxing:

1. Personal information must be confined to the new "investigations" board (under Scam Accusations), which is only visible to Members and above. Personal information is defined as anything which links a user's online identity (username, email, etc.) to their meatspace identity, excluding links that the person himself has posted. It is not allowed to post somebody's personal information in any other public place, including in signatures.
2. It is not allowed to post someone's dox if it is especially obvious that you're just using the dox as a weapon. For example, if there are no remotely-plausible trade complaints, then the person can't be a scammer, and their dox should not be posted.
3. As before, anything that the legacy insecure government/banking system requires to be secret is not allowed anywhere. This includes social security numbers, credit card numbers, and certain account numbers.

This applies retroactively to old posts. If a thread contains a lot of personal information strewn throughout it, then the whole thread will be moved to Investigations. If it's only a few posts, then those will be split off. From now on, it's probably a good idea to create two threads for big scammers: one in Scam Accusations and one in Investigations.

From time to time there may be cases where it is very desirable to publish some results of an investigation. For example, if a class action lawsuit is filed, then the person's username should probably at least be publicly linked to the legal case so that other people can join in. For now, there is no uniform policy for this, and if you need to make some personal info public, post in Meta and we will deal with it on a case-by-case basis.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: nutildah on July 28, 2019, 04:13:08 AM
I truly feel bad for the OP in this case. They posted here as they were dissatisfied with GP's progress and/or communication thus far and ended up more or less getting doxxed by GP! From what I can tell, GP had access to OP's real name and personal information, and OP has access to nothing about GP, just hope and a prayer that they are actually doing something beneficial for their case. GP refuses to take responsibility for their own behavior and is instead blaming everybody else for their negative reputation earned on this forum, which now places them as the least trusted member (https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=leasttrusted) on the forum.

I know the BPIP list shows GP as DT2, however don't be alarmed, this is some kind of glitch on BPIP -- they are not trusted by anyone (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-07-20_Sat_09.55h/874254.html), and distrusted by 25.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: bones261 on July 28, 2019, 04:51:04 AM
I find it rather confusing that game-protect states that they do not collect any personal information about their clients. How exactly can they put forth any kind of claim without knowing anything about the client? Or when time for settlement comes, does game-protect forward the proper forms to the client to fill out and file directly?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Jenniraye88 on July 28, 2019, 12:59:18 PM
I’d just like to clear a couple of things up here.
As previously pointed out, I didn’t provide the up front payment to Game Protect to proceed with my case. Someone funded this on my behalf. It was that funder who advised me to start this thread all them months ago in the hope that we may get some more updates. I didn’t even know this forum existed before then.
Game Protect does in fact respond to my emails very quickly when I send them. My only small concern was that I would have to chase every 4-5 weeks for an update or I didn’t receive any information.
Not once have I attempted to ‘bad mouth’ or ‘shame’ Game Protect. On the contrary, I was hoping and still hope that I can have a positive conclusion to my case and then can let everyone on here know and perhaps quash any negative opinions.



Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Jenniraye88 on July 28, 2019, 01:52:34 PM
When I said I wasn’t blaming anyone for being scammed, I meant scammed by the casino in the first place, not Game Protect.

The funder asked me to start a thread on here and I can send you proof of this privately should you wish.

It’s not a lie that I ask you privately by email for an update on my case every 4-5 weeks.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Kevinn22 on July 28, 2019, 01:54:46 PM
I instructed them over 3 months ago and paid 5% of my claim to them up front but am struggling to get any specific information about the progress.

I have to chase them every 3-4 weeks for an update but always get a response which sounds like they're annoyed i'm even chasing...


You publicly confirm that you are scammed!
[/quote]

So you admit to scamming him?

This is what happened to you. You have been scammed. It's not on everybody's fault, it's your fault

I'm pretty sure i haven't blamed anyone or said it's anyone's fault.
Do you know what the truth is?

If you did not spend the 5%, you can not get scammed for it!

If someone was scammed, then it is the investor who spent the 5%.
[/quote]

Wrong. Just because someone else funded his case, does not make it the investors case. all details and interactions come from jenniraye88 from the sounds of it.
You're just passing the buck off and avoiding the situation trying to buy time to suck in more desperate people to scam


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: RivAngE on July 28, 2019, 03:06:17 PM
By only reading the OP, I was 100% sure this "Game Protect" thing was a scum without even knowing them!

"up front payment" to do something that has no guarantees, man how did you fall for it? :-\ I hope you didn't pay them much.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Blossom15 on July 28, 2019, 06:45:15 PM
Some brain washers on bitcointalk.org want to mislead the community, but one part of a scam is always that money or value was lost!

If no money or value was lost, then a scam did not happen! :D

Definition scam: A fraudulent scheme performed by a dishonest individual, group or company in an attempt to obtain money or something else of value.

Yup. You've taken 5% payment upfront from the OP's "backer" and you're yet to show any evidence whatsoever that you're performing the duties you've been assigned to do. Instead you're busy doxing your client? It doesn't matter who paid for your services, you've failed to deliver or show any evidence that you're trying.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Get-Paid.com on July 29, 2019, 07:37:25 AM
Clarification about this Thread:

Jenni has just contacted me, worried about this case, I would like to clarify several things:

1) I'm (or more precisely we at Get-Paid are) the investors behind Jenni's claim, we funded her claim, we could trace back the BTC TX URL if you want to see it was paid but honestly GameProtect won't deny this was paid.

2) Jenni has just emailed me saying "It’s been 8 months since my complaint and I don’t really know anything that’s going on..... He is obviously targeting me for starting the thread thinking I did it to publicly shame him or something but you asked me to start it to see if we could get some better updates on what was happening".

Yes, I did ask Jenni to use the forum back in March (she started the process in December 2018).

3) Game Protect has helped me with a case and did get me back losses I wouldn't get from anywhere else. Proof:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1535816.msg39659536#msg39659536

HOWEVER:

Whilst I appreciate very much that Game Protect has helped me with my case I find it really annoying that he attacks Jenni for using the forum or accusing her for trying to say things about his service!

And unlike many posters here - no, I am not upset with Game Protect revealing Jenni's information, Jenni doesn't care about it, and it seems like the posts were edited, although making a mistake like this is not a good thing but this can be forgivable ... ANYWAY the main issue is the fact Jenni is worried about not getting her case resolved! (and not doxing her information or revealing information about her!) - that is the main issue, and I kindly ask other forum members to concentrate on this specific issue, and not on any other irrelevant data that is not related to Jenni getting her case resolved.

As far as I'm concerned Jenni is 100% entitled to ask questions about her case, we only got involved from the investment side of things, and if Jenni wishes to use the forum then by all means she can do it. I did advise her to try and ask in the forum about this in order to motivate GameProtect to try and move her case a bit faster and reoprt in the forum (in her thread) accordingly whenever there is an update.

Game Protect - by all means, please provide a proper customer support to your clients, and that's it ... end of story. Jenni nor me have no personal vendetta against you! You have a customer worried about getting nowhere, that's the whole thing - stop making a bubble out of something that is simple and straightforward!

I'm being neutral and unbiased here, I'm not trying to throw any accusations on anyone here. Just reflecting the facts and a good will to help all sides here, as I believe in resolving conflicts and not creating ones if it's not necessary.

PS Game Protect, Jenni started the thread in March, we are now almost in August, understandably some things could take time (I was told the same about my case) - she just wants updates and reassurance her case is being looked after, that's all ... no grumpiness nor grudges or anything else is involved here.

Thanks for your time!



Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: nutildah on July 29, 2019, 07:56:50 AM
Clarification about this Thread:

Jenni has just contacted me, worried about this case, I would like to clarify several things:

For what its worth, I believe GP really did help you and you are only trying to help OP as well -- it was nice of you to front her the money, and I hope things are eventually resolved in the both of your favors.

Having said that, GP is a lunatic and he needs to advertise his services elsewhere. He is not welcome here. Continually harassing anybody who dares to question your business model or actions, leaving negative feedback for dozens of accounts saying they are child abusers, is straight up psychotic behavior.

He is (by far) the least trusted person on the entire forum (https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=leasttrusted) and there are few people more deserving of a warning flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=435) than he. Its a giant internet out there, he should fuck off somewhere else and stop harassing both accounts at random and those belonging to his critics.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: cruso on July 29, 2019, 12:25:42 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1535816.msg39659536#msg39659536

You call this ^ proof? Come on man. Nobody is going to believe that. Substantial proof would suffice, not just posting saying Game Protect helped me, but I digress.

His treatment of his only known customer is shameful and there is something amiss here. I'm beginning to think this whole thing is scripted and a charade. Looking forward to seeing how it all plays out.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Initscri on July 30, 2019, 02:02:58 AM
He is (by far) the least trusted person on the entire forum (https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=leasttrusted)
The trust of who did I breach and how?

According to this brain wash story, I am the least trusted person on this forum without ever breached the trust of anyone?

You breached the trust of the customer you publicly doxxed on this forum.

How about that?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: nutildah on July 30, 2019, 03:14:01 AM
He is (by far) the least trusted person on the entire forum (https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=leasttrusted)
The trust of who did I breach and how?

According to this brain wash story, I am the least trusted person on this forum without ever breached the trust of anyone?

You can be distrusted without having to "breach the trust" of someone. People get the general vibe that you are untrustworthy, and as seen with your handling of this customer's complaint, they are sometimes proved correct.

1) Believing that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money means not knowing!

2) Not knowing that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money confirms that this is not the case. Because if it was the case, some bitcointalk accounts surley would know it considering how much effort they have put in within the past 3,5 years to lie about and defame Game Protect! :D

3) Therefore, (at least based on real world rules and logic) everyone who believes that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money confirms that this is not the case! ;D

Again, this is not how these words work. Just because somebody doesn't "know" something for sure doesn't mean its not true. You can believe something is true without knowing for sure that it is. That's why they are 2 different words. If you keep repeating this illogical premise as logical then it will just be another feather in your insanity cap.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Initscri on July 30, 2019, 07:32:47 AM
Clarification about this Thread:

Jenni has just contacted me, worried about this case, I would like to clarify several things:

1) I'm (or more precisely we at Get-Paid are) the investors behind Jenni's claim, we funded her claim, we could trace back the BTC TX URL if you want to see it was paid but honestly GameProtect won't deny this was paid.

2) Jenni has just emailed me saying "It’s been 8 months since my complaint and I don’t really know anything that’s going on..... He is obviously targeting me for starting the thread thinking I did it to publicly shame him or something but you asked me to start it to see if we could get some better updates on what was happening".

Yes, I did ask Jenni to use the forum back in March (she started the process in December 2018).

3) Game Protect has helped me with a case and did get me back losses I wouldn't get from anywhere else. Proof:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1535816.msg39659536#msg39659536

HOWEVER:

Whilst I appreciate very much that Game Protect has helped me with my case I find it really annoying that he attacks Jenni for using the forum or accusing her for trying to say things about his service!

And unlike many posters here - no, I am not upset with Game Protect revealing Jenni's information, Jenni doesn't care about it, and it seems like the posts were edited, although making a mistake like this is not a good thing but this can be forgivable ... ANYWAY the main issue is the fact Jenni is worried about not getting her case resolved! (and not doxing her information or revealing information about her!) - that is the main issue, and I kindly ask other forum members to concentrate on this specific issue, and not on any other irrelevant data that is not related to Jenni getting her case resolved.

As far as I'm concerned Jenni is 100% entitled to ask questions about her case, we only got involved from the investment side of things, and if Jenni wishes to use the forum then by all means she can do it. I did advise her to try and ask in the forum about this in order to motivate GameProtect to try and move her case a bit faster and reoprt in the forum (in her thread) accordingly whenever there is an update.

Game Protect - by all means, please provide a proper customer support to your clients, and that's it ... end of story. Jenni nor me have no personal vendetta against you! You have a customer worried about getting nowhere, that's the whole thing - stop making a bubble out of something that is simple and straightforward!

I'm being neutral and unbiased here, I'm not trying to throw any accusations on anyone here. Just reflecting the facts and a good will to help all sides here, as I believe in resolving conflicts and not creating ones if it's not necessary.

PS Game Protect, Jenni started the thread in March, we are now almost in August, understandably some things could take time (I was told the same about my case) - she just wants updates and reassurance her case is being looked after, that's all ... no grumpiness nor grudges or anything else is involved here.

Thanks for your time!



He is (by far) the least trusted person on the entire forum (https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=leasttrusted)
The trust of who did I breach and how?

According to this brain wash story, I am the least trusted person on this forum without ever breached the trust of anyone?

What will happen if someone really breached the trust?

Wait, he will become the most trusted person on this forum! :D


and there are few people more deserving of a warning flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=435) than he.
A warning flag about the extreme mental illnes of bitcointalk accounts who believe things without any connection to the reality! :D

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1) Believing that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money means not knowing!

2) Not knowing that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money confirms that this is not the case. Because if it was the case, some bitcointalk accounts surley would know it considering how much effort they have put in within the past 3,5 years to lie about and defame Game Protect! :D

3) Therefore, (at least based on real world rules and logic) everyone who believes that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money confirms that this is not the case! ;D

Focus at the task at hand man.

Fix the situation with the OP before spouting more BS about people being brainwashed. Business first, bitching later. Please. Do your job.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: wontshrug on July 31, 2019, 04:14:37 PM
anybody with the due diligence to read game-protect's post history would see that they are a parasite. dumbfounding he can still try to solicit business on this forum


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Kevinn22 on August 01, 2019, 02:05:43 AM
Yes, everyone can believe whatever he likes, but it is a criminal offense and breach of basic human rights to publicly judge entities based on beliefs!

tell me on what planet it's against the law to have an opinion please. I'm very curious


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Initscri on August 02, 2019, 04:55:51 AM
He is (by far) the least trusted person on the entire forum (https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=leasttrusted)
The trust of who did I breach and how?

According to this brain wash story, I am the least trusted person on this forum without ever breached the trust of anyone?

You can be distrusted without having to "breach the trust" of someone. People get the general vibe that you are untrustworthy, and as seen with your handling of this customer's complaint, they are sometimes proved correct.

1) Believing that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money means not knowing!

2) Not knowing that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money confirms that this is not the case. Because if it was the case, some bitcointalk accounts surley would know it considering how much effort they have put in within the past 3,5 years to lie about and defame Game Protect! :D

3) Therefore, (at least based on real world rules and logic) everyone who believes that anyone dealing with Game Protect is at a high risk of losing money confirms that this is not the case! ;D

Again, this is not how these words work. Just because somebody doesn't "know" something for sure doesn't mean its not true. You can believe something is true without knowing for sure that it is. That's why they are 2 different words. If you keep repeating this illogical premise as logical then it will just be another feather in your insanity cap.
Yes, everyone can believe whatever he likes, but it is a criminal offense and breach of basic human rights to publicly judge entities based on beliefs!

Though requires a functioning brain to understand it and therefore nothing for extemely mentally ill bitcointalk accounts! :D

That is categorically incorrect, and it's surprising you who claims to understand law would actually believe that.

It's not a "criminal offence" to judge someone on a set of beliefs. But then again, you think absolutely everything is a criminal offence. Being a critic to you is a criminal offence, so the bar is set rather low.

What actually could be a criminal offence (or at-least civil) is your defamation of users suggesting they are criminals w/o trial.

Give it enough time, and you might actually see a class-action defamation case targeted towards you on your hands.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: TwitchySeal on August 09, 2019, 07:35:58 AM
Clarification about this Thread:

Jenni has just contacted me, worried about this case, I would like to clarify several things:

1) I'm (or more precisely we at Get-Paid are) the investors behind Jenni's claim, we funded her claim, we could trace back the BTC TX URL if you want to see it was paid but honestly GameProtect won't deny this was paid.

2) Jenni has just emailed me saying "It’s been 8 months since my complaint and I don’t really know anything that’s going on..... He is obviously targeting me for starting the thread thinking I did it to publicly shame him or something but you asked me to start it to see if we could get some better updates on what was happening".

Yes, I did ask Jenni to use the forum back in March (she started the process in December 2018).

3) Game Protect has helped me with a case and did get me back losses I wouldn't get from anywhere else. Proof:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1535816.msg39659536#msg39659536

HOWEVER:

Whilst I appreciate very much that Game Protect has helped me with my case I find it really annoying that he attacks Jenni for using the forum or accusing her for trying to say things about his service!

And unlike many posters here - no, I am not upset with Game Protect revealing Jenni's information, Jenni doesn't care about it, and it seems like the posts were edited, although making a mistake like this is not a good thing but this can be forgivable ... ANYWAY the main issue is the fact Jenni is worried about not getting her case resolved! (and not doxing her information or revealing information about her!) - that is the main issue, and I kindly ask other forum members to concentrate on this specific issue, and not on any other irrelevant data that is not related to Jenni getting her case resolved.

As far as I'm concerned Jenni is 100% entitled to ask questions about her case, we only got involved from the investment side of things, and if Jenni wishes to use the forum then by all means she can do it. I did advise her to try and ask in the forum about this in order to motivate GameProtect to try and move her case a bit faster and reoprt in the forum (in her thread) accordingly whenever there is an update.

Game Protect - by all means, please provide a proper customer support to your clients, and that's it ... end of story. Jenni nor me have no personal vendetta against you! You have a customer worried about getting nowhere, that's the whole thing - stop making a bubble out of something that is simple and straightforward!

I'm being neutral and unbiased here, I'm not trying to throw any accusations on anyone here. Just reflecting the facts and a good will to help all sides here, as I believe in resolving conflicts and not creating ones if it's not necessary.

PS Game Protect, Jenni started the thread in March, we are now almost in August, understandably some things could take time (I was told the same about my case) - she just wants updates and reassurance her case is being looked after, that's all ... no grumpiness nor grudges or anything else is involved here.

Thanks for your time!



I feel for OP, and for you and do not approve of all the victim shaming going on in this thread.  You've found your way to a really weird crazy corner of the internet that is far from user friendly for newcomers.

OP should absolutely not feel bad about making this thread.  This thread is not hurting her chances of getting paid.  Scammer 101 is always keep your victims from warning other future victims.  That's why he attacked her and then went back and deleted all of his posts in this thread.

I understand you will remain hopeful for now, but suggest getting some sort of timeline out of him if you can, and if you can't then set one for yourself to see some sort of concrete evidence that he's doing more than just harass the casino with empty threats.  It seems like his only play is to string you along for as long as possible, pressuring you to say nice things about him, or at least not say bad things.  

Please document everything.

And when the deadline passes, please post everything (with sensitive info edited out obviously).


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Initscri on August 27, 2019, 03:28:21 AM
@OP + Get-Paid.com, has there been any update w/ regards to this thread.

Has Game-Protect been able to further the case at all?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: docthusinh on August 28, 2019, 01:13:39 PM
@OP + Get-Paid.com, has there been any update w/ regards to this thread.

Has Game-Protect been able to further the case at all?

Man, she lost all I think, this is the testimonial for us which don't trust any of his service. He even floating around asking for legiminate or questioning on license of casinos here in this forum, while his identify is anynomous.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Spaffin on August 28, 2019, 08:33:13 PM
@OP + Get-Paid.com, has there been any update w/ regards to this thread.

Has Game-Protect been able to further the case at all?

Man, she lost all I think, this is the testimonial for us which don't trust any of his service. He even floating around asking for legiminate or questioning on license of casinos here in this forum, while his identify is anynomous.
In my opinion, not only tough control on the part of users, but also a tough attitude towards me to all incomprehensible situations should beat this business.  Trust is clearly lost to many of us.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Get-Paid.com on November 03, 2019, 12:44:05 PM

For what its worth, I believe GP really did help you and you are only trying to help OP as well -- it was nice of you to front her the money, and I hope things are eventually resolved in the both of your favors.

Thank you for believing in the real truth.


Having said that, GP is a lunatic and he needs to advertise his services elsewhere. He is not welcome here. Continually harassing anybody who dares to question your business model or actions, leaving negative feedback for dozens of accounts saying they are child abusers, is straight up psychotic behavior.


Yes, I also agree with that - I've just told GP he should definitely change his netiquette here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1535816.msg52965298#msg52965298



You call this ^ proof? Come on man. Nobody is going to believe that. Substantial proof would suffice, not just posting saying Game Protect helped me, but I digress.


I've already explained that I signed an NDA and part of the NDA (=Non Disclosure Agreement) is to not disclose the details of the settlement, do you want to see a bank transfer slip showing a payment was made? This I can show you but I cannot show the other things here. Nonetheless at least some other good members like the one quoted above does believe this, I have no intention of lying about it, none whatsoever.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Get-Paid.com on November 03, 2019, 12:46:03 PM
@OP + Get-Paid.com, has there been any update w/ regards to this thread.

Has Game-Protect been able to further the case at all?

Sorry, I wasn't aware you posted this question until now .... I am not aware of any updates until now, I've asked the OP to update and provide only facts without any accusations as I'm not interested in anyone accusing the OP or GP for any wrongdoing, so it should be only facts, assuming she is happy to disclose the facts here... other than that I have no other updates.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: TwitchySeal on November 03, 2019, 06:01:35 PM
I've already explained that I signed an NDA and part of the NDA (=Non Disclosure Agreement) is to not disclose the details of the settlement, do you want to see a bank transfer slip showing a payment was made? This I can show you but I cannot show the other things here. Nonetheless at least some other good members like the one quoted above does believe this, I have no intention of lying about it, none whatsoever.

I believe that he did actually help you get your funds back.  I hope you understand the reason you're getting all these questions is because you're the only person that appears even a little credible that has come forward and said GP actually returned your funds.  He's been here over 3 years.  Almost 5,000 posts.  And you're the only one.  (Of course it's pretty clear he managed to scam you out of ~$1k USD a few months later, which ironically makes you even more credible, but that's besides the point)

My guess is that your case was one of the rare ones where a few emails was all it took to convince the Casino to return the funds.  I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to appear to you as if he was using a lawyer and working with multiple people, but really it was just him trying to scare the Casino into giving you a refund, and it actually worked for once.

Did he ever have other players contact you as a reference?

Did you know the Lady that you decided to put up the money for personally?  Or did Game-Protect introduce you guys and then help work out a deal so that "everyone could win?"

To be clear, I'm purely speculating here.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Get-Paid.com on November 04, 2019, 03:43:20 AM

I believe that he did actually help you get your funds back.  I hope you understand the reason you're getting all these questions is because you're the only person that appears even a little credible that has come forward and said GP actually returned your funds.  He's been here over 3 years.  Almost 5,000 posts.  And you're the only one.  (Of course it's pretty clear he managed to scam you out of ~$1k USD a few months later, which ironically makes you even more credible, but that's besides the point)

My guess is that your case was one of the rare ones where a few emails was all it took to convince the Casino to return the funds.  I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to appear to you as if he was using a lawyer and working with multiple people, but really it was just him trying to scare the Casino into giving you a refund, and it actually worked for once.

Did he ever have other players contact you as a reference?

Did you know the Lady that you decided to put up the money for personally?  Or did Game-Protect introduce you guys and then help work out a deal so that "everyone could win?"

To be clear, I'm purely speculating here.

He did use a lawyer with my case but the case did not take too long to be settled. Nonetheless, I did try SBR, CasinoMeister, AskGamblers and no one helped me with the case - in the AskGamblers website I even spoke directly to the bookmaker who just ignored my claims - so GameProtect was helpful in getting this resolved ... prior to it I've also contacted some lawyers in Curacao myself and no one was willing to help or was but with a high cost - so GP's resolution was cost effective and it was effective as well.

Now - moving forward - I have no idea how this thread turned into something else, something that if I had to see this thread now - I would probably avoid dealing with GP because of all the warnings and negativity here, and I see him fighting the claims that you're raising against him ... I also think that he should settle the issue with h4ns in some way - just reach a settlement, I am huge believer in compromise and in doing the right thing.

I don't know where this is all going from here, I feel bad for all sides - I think GameProtect is genuinely trying to offer a genuine service, but on the same time he cannot have an open dispute with another user and leave it like that - besides h4ns' case there is the only other case of Jenni here, but she hasn't given any update here and I'm not sure if she would feel comfortable doing so because she is not looking to be attacked. Asking questions is fine, attacking isn't.

He never used me as a reference for other users for direct contact, everything was posted here so he could point whoever he wants to the thread here, I didn't know Jenni in advance, it was the latter option you described just without an introduction initially - I chose to invest in her case but it looks like her case is more complicated than mine - she used a casino website where the owners have simply left the company and cannot be reached, I don't know what will happen from here, the only thing I can say is that h4ns in my opinion should be paid or at least GP and him should agree on something, and in regards to Jenni's case - I have no idea what will happen with it ... If you're asking if I would go ahead and invest in another case - probably not, because the investment hasn't proven itself - but I took it as an investment with some risks involved and known in advance, so I don't accuse GP of any wrongdoing .... in fact I think all the red flags and the huge amount of negativity that he gets - is in some way unfair - I still gave him a positive feedback and I haven't changed it because I stand behind what I had experienced in general - however if the h4ns' case won't get resolved I'd get upset - why? it's not even my case, but as I said I believe in justice and in doing the right thing. That's why I also called GP to settle this with h4ns. Just get it settled, the amount is not huge neither.

In regards to Jenni - I am happy with whatever happens, I still won't accuse GP for any wrongdoing here - but those who do so with a click of a button should really bring some more credible evidence into the table - otherwise why is he getting so much negativity if the only 2 "pending" cases are h4ns and Jenni's? It doesn't make any sense, by all means this is equal to so many red flags - UNLESS - the issue with h4ns won't get resolved, and I do agree this MUST be resolved, it cannot stay like this. If GP doesn't understand he needs to SETTLE things with h4ns then I'd truly feel sorry for his business - and this is a case I am not even involved with, but for the sake of your business, GP, you must SETTLE with h4ns - otherwise you're just shooting yourself here in the leg.



Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Initscri on November 04, 2019, 04:28:19 AM

I believe that he did actually help you get your funds back.  I hope you understand the reason you're getting all these questions is because you're the only person that appears even a little credible that has come forward and said GP actually returned your funds.  He's been here over 3 years.  Almost 5,000 posts.  And you're the only one.  (Of course it's pretty clear he managed to scam you out of ~$1k USD a few months later, which ironically makes you even more credible, but that's besides the point)

My guess is that your case was one of the rare ones where a few emails was all it took to convince the Casino to return the funds.  I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to appear to you as if he was using a lawyer and working with multiple people, but really it was just him trying to scare the Casino into giving you a refund, and it actually worked for once.

Did he ever have other players contact you as a reference?

Did you know the Lady that you decided to put up the money for personally?  Or did Game-Protect introduce you guys and then help work out a deal so that "everyone could win?"

To be clear, I'm purely speculating here.

He did use a lawyer with my case but the case did not take too long to be settled. Nonetheless, I did try SBR, CasinoMeister, AskGamblers and no one helped me with the case - in the AskGamblers website I even spoke directly to the bookmaker who just ignored my claims - so GameProtect was helpful in getting this resolved ... prior to it I've also contacted some lawyers in Curacao myself and no one was willing to help or was but with a high cost - so GP's resolution was cost effective and it was effective as well.

Now - moving forward - I have no idea how this thread turned into something else, something that if I had to see this thread now - I would probably avoid dealing with GP because of all the warnings and negativity here, and I see him fighting the claims that you're raising against him ... I also think that he should settle the issue with h4ns in some way - just reach a settlement, I am huge believer in compromise and in doing the right thing.

I don't know where this is all going from here, I feel bad for all sides - I think GameProtect is genuinely trying to offer a genuine service, but on the same time he cannot have an open dispute with another user and leave it like that - besides h4ns' case there is the only other case of Jenni here, but she hasn't given any update here and I'm not sure if she would feel comfortable doing so because she is not looking to be attacked. Asking questions is fine, attacking isn't.

He never used me as a reference for other users for direct contact, everything was posted here so he could point whoever he wants to the thread here, I didn't know Jenni in advance, it was the latter option you described just without an introduction initially - I chose to invest in her case but it looks like her case is more complicated than mine - she used a casino website where the owners have simply left the company and cannot be reached, I don't know what will happen from here, the only thing I can say is that h4ns in my opinion should be paid or at least GP and him should agree on something, and in regards to Jenni's case - I have no idea what will happen with it ... If you're asking if I would go ahead and invest in another case - probably not, because the investment hasn't proven itself - but I took it as an investment with some risks involved and known in advance, so I don't accuse GP of any wrongdoing .... in fact I think all the red flags and the huge amount of negativity that he gets - is in some way unfair - I still gave him a positive feedback and I haven't changed it because I stand behind what I had experienced in general - however if the h4ns' case won't get resolved I'd get upset - why? it's not even my case, but as I said I believe in justice and in doing the right thing. That's why I also called GP to settle this with h4ns. Just get it settled, the amount is not huge neither.

In regards to Jenni - I am happy with whatever happens, I still won't accuse GP for any wrongdoing here - but those who do so with a click of a button should really bring some more credible evidence into the table - otherwise why is he getting so much negativity if the only 2 "pending" cases are h4ns and Jenni's? It doesn't make any sense, by all means this is equal to so many red flags - UNLESS - the issue with h4ns won't get resolved, and I do agree this MUST be resolved, it cannot stay like this. If GP doesn't understand he needs to SETTLE things with h4ns then I'd truly feel sorry for his business - and this is a case I am not even involved with, but for the sake of your business, GP, you must SETTLE with h4ns - otherwise you're just shooting yourself here in the leg.



I would agree with you, that if he solves the case with h4ns, it would increase his credibility somewhat.

However, at this point, with the claims he's made (for example):
- Donations means he doesn't have to promise anything in exchange
- Emails aren't valid in court/written contracts
etc

I just don't think the guys morals/business acumen is well enough for the general gaming population to do business with.

I think what he may have set out to do is great. His intentions at the start were probably great. But just the way he talks about the Bitcoin community in general is problematic. (See https://bitcoin-millionaire.com/business-gameprotect/ for example). Calling us paid shills simply because we have signatures (including people who don't even run signatures). We're potential clients, and a lot of us could have raised GP up in the sense of giving a lot more trust to his business. I, for one, would have promoted GP and recommended it to gamblers needing help IF he actually acted legitimately and professionally, and I think a lot of the forum would have done the same.

I would make the same criticisms of Game-Protect with or without a signature. No one has ever mandated I say something specific with regards to any case (and if they did, I would rightfully decline and leave the sig campaign); and I've even criticized specific actions from casinos I've had in my signature in the past (saying things should have been done differently). I think to assume that everyone who runs a signature is somehow a paid shill and is instantly against you was wrong from the get-go.

I, for one, would have been happy to see a consumer protection agency for gamers who took a professional response to claims and criticisms and actually acted like a business should be acting.

I think from a PR perspective, GP's entire time on this forum has been a massive blunder for him, and it's time to own up, make h4ns whole and just simply say sorry.

I would just also echo what TwitchySeal said, you may have a case where it went well, but there's cases where GP has clearly messed up, and I fear the list may be larger (more than just 2) but people may be afraid to speak out due to the tactics GP uses against his victims (h4ns as a prime example of this, stating that he owes him $10,000 in defamation fees).


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: TwitchySeal on November 04, 2019, 05:03:25 AM

I believe that he did actually help you get your funds back.  I hope you understand the reason you're getting all these questions is because you're the only person that appears even a little credible that has come forward and said GP actually returned your funds.  He's been here over 3 years.  Almost 5,000 posts.  And you're the only one.  (Of course it's pretty clear he managed to scam you out of ~$1k USD a few months later, which ironically makes you even more credible, but that's besides the point)

My guess is that your case was one of the rare ones where a few emails was all it took to convince the Casino to return the funds.  I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to appear to you as if he was using a lawyer and working with multiple people, but really it was just him trying to scare the Casino into giving you a refund, and it actually worked for once.

Did he ever have other players contact you as a reference?

Did you know the Lady that you decided to put up the money for personally?  Or did Game-Protect introduce you guys and then help work out a deal so that "everyone could win?"

To be clear, I'm purely speculating here.

He did use a lawyer with my case but the case did not take too long to be settled. Nonetheless, I did try SBR, CasinoMeister, AskGamblers and no one helped me with the case - in the AskGamblers website I even spoke directly to the bookmaker who just ignored my claims - so GameProtect was helpful in getting this resolved ... prior to it I've also contacted some lawyers in Curacao myself and no one was willing to help or was but with a high cost - so GP's resolution was cost effective and it was effective as well.

Now - moving forward - I have no idea how this thread turned into something else, something that if I had to see this thread now - I would probably avoid dealing with GP because of all the warnings and negativity here, and I see him fighting the claims that you're raising against him ... I also think that he should settle the issue with h4ns in some way - just reach a settlement, I am huge believer in compromise and in doing the right thing.

I don't know where this is all going from here, I feel bad for all sides - I think GameProtect is genuinely trying to offer a genuine service, but on the same time he cannot have an open dispute with another user and leave it like that - besides h4ns' case there is the only other case of Jenni here, but she hasn't given any update here and I'm not sure if she would feel comfortable doing so because she is not looking to be attacked. Asking questions is fine, attacking isn't.

He never used me as a reference for other users for direct contact, everything was posted here so he could point whoever he wants to the thread here, I didn't know Jenni in advance, it was the latter option you described just without an introduction initially - I chose to invest in her case but it looks like her case is more complicated than mine - she used a casino website where the owners have simply left the company and cannot be reached, I don't know what will happen from here, the only thing I can say is that h4ns in my opinion should be paid or at least GP and him should agree on something, and in regards to Jenni's case - I have no idea what will happen with it ... If you're asking if I would go ahead and invest in another case - probably not, because the investment hasn't proven itself - but I took it as an investment with some risks involved and known in advance, so I don't accuse GP of any wrongdoing .... in fact I think all the red flags and the huge amount of negativity that he gets - is in some way unfair - I still gave him a positive feedback and I haven't changed it because I stand behind what I had experienced in general - however if the h4ns' case won't get resolved I'd get upset - why? it's not even my case, but as I said I believe in justice and in doing the right thing. That's why I also called GP to settle this with h4ns. Just get it settled, the amount is not huge neither.

In regards to Jenni - I am happy with whatever happens, I still won't accuse GP for any wrongdoing here - but those who do so with a click of a button should really bring some more credible evidence into the table - otherwise why is he getting so much negativity if the only 2 "pending" cases are h4ns and Jenni's? It doesn't make any sense, by all means this is equal to so many red flags - UNLESS - the issue with h4ns won't get resolved, and I do agree this MUST be resolved, it cannot stay like this. If GP doesn't understand he needs to SETTLE things with h4ns then I'd truy ly feel sorry for his business - and this is a case I am not even involved with, but for the sake of your business, GP, you must SETTLE with h4ns - otherwise you're just shooting yourself here in the leg.




@Get-Paid,

I think most would agree that it's pretty clear that you're a good guy without any ulterior motives or anything.  Just want to make it clear that I'm not trying to attack or discredit you or anything.  I don't think you're aware of the whole story when it comes to GP though.

GP has been around for over 3 years.  In that time he's made countless ridiculous claims, countless ridiculous attacks, been caught in countless lies.  

Over 3 years.  And you're literally the only person that has come forward with a good experience.There is, however, lots of evidence that he's collected significant amounts from players over the years, and also plenty of evidence that these players never actually recovered anything.  However, they never want to come forward and share what happened to warn others.  It's obvious he's stopping you from saying anything.  He obviously pressured Jenny to stop talking.  And he's claiming to sue h4ns for 20,000 Euro for opening a scam accusation against him. This is his excuse for not returning the 210 Euro.  He thinks it's ok to just deduct it from the 20k!

I refunded the 210€ after h4ns requested it September 3rd:

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€ :)

In the mean time he's constantly posting in every Casino thread on this forum, attacking the casino and advertising services such as " [X CASINO] is laundering money! Recover all your losses from the last 5 years with Game-Protect!"

This is not a misunderstanding or a bad decision.  This is a brazen scam.  He's stealing money and then trying to silence his victims so that he can find more victims. And if you don't stay quiet, he will openly threaten you.

Case closed.
The case is not closed for you and the consequences will be serious! ;D

You can lie about and attack Game Protect anonymously, but if I have your identity you will pay the price for your illegal activity!  ;)


Anyway, there are a billion examples out there but I don't want to write a book.  



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He did use a lawyer with my case but the case did not take too long to be settled.
Are you 100% sure?  Like, did you actually speak to or communicate with the lawyer?



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I didn't know Jenni in advance, it was the latter option you described just without an introduction initially - I chose to invest in her case but it looks like her case is more complicated than mine -



So, GP put you in contact with Jenni around December 2018
You were somehow convinced to give GP about ~$1,000 to help Jeni recover her funds, make a little for yourself (and GP also would get a cut).
March Rolls around and GP is ghosting Jeni.  
Here we are almost a year later.  

Just think about all of that man.  



There's an investigation thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184364.0 . Anonymous tips have been pretty helpful getting us as far as we have.








Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Get-Paid.com on November 04, 2019, 06:35:12 AM

Are you 100% sure?  Like, did you actually speak to or communicate with the lawyer?

Yes, I have spoken and communicated with the lawyer who resolved the case, once again I have no intention to lie about it. I hope you believe me.



So, GP put you in contact with Jenni around December 2018
You were somehow convinced to give GP about ~$1,000 to help Jeni recover her funds, make a little for yourself (and GP also would get a cut).
March Rolls around and GP is ghosting Jeni.  
Here we are almost a year later.  

Just think about all of that man.  


Yes, I am not happy with the result and thus I said I wouldn't invest again, however unlike h4ns I did not get a guarantee that if I invest I would be able to get this money back thus I do not accuse GP of any wrongdoing here - I was assured by GP he believes the case should be resolved quickly - in practice it doesn't seem to be the case now ... I invested 0.2344 BTC but BTC was worth $3413 back at that time so the investment was $800 and not $1,000 just to clarify - proof:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5015809be97eec9dbacf9eb8912a74ed94ecc145a5085091a2f7ba23c1898c58

I am not upset with GP and I cannot accuse him for any wrongdoing because I know he tried to help Jenni, but her case is more complicated, and I cannot disclose more information - simply because I don't have more information and I said if GP or Jenni wish to add more information here - they will see this thread (Jenni was informed, I told her she could add more info if she wishes).

Regarding h4ns - I do agree with all of you - this is not okay by any means whatsoever, regardless of who's right and who's wrong - the refusal to compromise or reach a settlement that will make both parties happy - is in my opinion unacceptable. Businesses must learn to compromise - otherwise if a business refuses to compromise then it shows what the business really is ... and I do call GP and h4ns to sit together and work things out - for the sake of doing good for all of us.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Get-Paid.com on November 04, 2019, 04:42:29 PM
Can you merge all the GP threads into one? It's hard to follow up with it like this.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: game-protect on November 04, 2019, 04:54:20 PM
I would agree with you, that if he solves the case with h4ns, it would increase his credibility somewhat.
I already announced that I will hold h4ns liable for the criminal offenses he committed and the damage his false and misleading public defamation campaign towards Game Protect caused! ;D

Glad to see that thereafter my credibility on bitcointalk.org will be better! :)


There is, however, lots of evidence that he's collected significant amounts from players over the years, and also plenty of evidence that these players never actually recovered anything.
Please show this lots and plenty of evidence (based on real world laws and regulations)?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Initscri on November 04, 2019, 07:11:35 PM
Can you merge all the GP threads into one? It's hard to follow up with it like this.
Jenniraye88 said that you advised her to open a separate thread so that it will have more attention?


I would agree with you, that if he solves the case with h4ns, it would increase his credibility somewhat.
I already announced that I will hold h4ns liable for the criminal offenses he committed and the damage his false and misleading public defamation campaign towards Game Protect caused! ;D

Glad to see that thereafter my credibility on bitcointalk.org will be better! :)

Glad to see you cutted my quote:

"However, at this point, with the claims he's made (for example):"..."I just don't think the guys morals/business acumen is well enough for the general gaming population to do business with."

AKA, no one will EVER trust you again unless they are severely misinformed.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: game-protect on November 04, 2019, 08:24:16 PM
After your brain substantiated that Game Protect is a scam / show, would not you withdraw your 7 pending enforcement cases?

(September 3rd) My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time.

Or would you want Game Protect continue to enforce your 7 claims towards sportsbooks?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Initscri on November 04, 2019, 08:26:55 PM
Can you merge all the GP threads into one? It's hard to follow up with it like this.
Jenniraye88 said that you advised her to open a separate thread so that it will have more attention?


I would agree with you, that if he solves the case with h4ns, it would increase his credibility somewhat.
I already announced that I will hold h4ns liable for the criminal offenses he committed and the damage his false and misleading public defamation campaign towards Game Protect caused! ;D

Glad to see that thereafter my credibility on bitcointalk.org will be better! :)

Then be ready for the counter suit, that's all I can say.

I (along w/ what I would assume to be many others) hold you legally liable for the damaging and false misleading claim that I have committed a criminal offence by putting a an ad in my signature.

For every negative trust reputation you left on my profile, you owe me $10,000. So $60,000. Bitcoin or cheque?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: beerlover on November 05, 2019, 08:08:46 AM
@Get-Paid.com
Well, this is very mighty of you. First, you didn't know about GP and then when you tried to get help and he helped you out you believed him to be a really good person that does earn money by doing what he claims he does, that is not a bad impression, after all you got your money back.

However, after jeni thing happened and you saw here how people acted towards him you realized you wouldn't have invested with him and lost the money you fronted jeni with, you made your money back but jeni didn't so you now lost money because of him and you are still not blaming him for it.

At what point would you consider him a scammer if he doesn't pay you back, you know you paid for jeni and that didn't happened, you know h4ns deal as well and you are still not completely convinced he is a scammer, you just think he is doing his job and sometimes he wins and sometimes he losses instead of believing he scams people.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: TwitchySeal on November 05, 2019, 09:58:10 AM
Yes, I have spoken and communicated with the lawyer who resolved the case, once again I have no intention to lie about it. I hope you believe me.

I don't think you've been dishonest at all throughout this process.  You seem like a good guy that always tries to find the good in people.  This is a great characteristic in life, but it seems pretty clear that GP took advantage of you being a nice guy.  I'd be surprised if he put much effort at all into returning Jennis money.  He got her to ask you to send him money because he's a scammer, not because he tries to help people.  If he was actually in the business of helping people, there would be more than 1 person after 3+ years confirming that he actually helped them.

I hope you understand the reason everyone is giving him shit and ruining his reputation isn't just to be mean to someone.  It's to make it harder for him to scam people in the future.



Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: nutildah on November 05, 2019, 10:16:40 AM
I would agree with you, that if he solves the case with h4ns, it would increase his credibility somewhat.
I already announced that I will hold h4ns liable for the criminal offenses he committed and the damage his false and misleading public defamation campaign towards Game Protect caused! ;D

Stop saying you're going to do it and actually do it. No need to keep repeating yourself. Do it already instead of just threatening to do it. You've announced you were doing it over a hundred times already.

Glad to see that thereafter my credibility on bitcointalk.org will be better! :)

You're truly disturbed if you think that your credibility will be better after suing one of your customers for complaining about you not honoring your word. Then or now, you will be lucky to ever have another customer again.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Get-Paid.com on November 05, 2019, 11:25:07 AM
Game Protect,

I am really sorry to see that's how you choose to resolve a small case with a customer of yours, regardless of who's right or wrong here, this in my opinion is not a way to conduct business. We are all human beings and you should have a certain level of leeway with other customers - regardless of who's right or wrong. If you insist on having no compromise then it shows a bad faith, I'm 100% against it.

I do apologize but if this is how it will end between you and h4ns I will have to remove my positive feedback that I gave you in the past, I do appreciate all your help you've given me in the past and my post with my praises will remain in the forum and I will still thank you for your past help, however moving forward I think it's unacceptable for me to support your business like this, and I'd simply wish you best of luck with your future endeavors, however I am going to stay neutral and I won't express any further feedback (unlike others I won't leave a bad feedback as I think this is also morally wrong to do so if you have no actual experience with Game Protect - and this is my message to all the others here!) - however for me - this would become a neutral stance, once again - wish you best of luck with your future endeavors.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: game-protect on November 05, 2019, 06:26:55 PM
I hope you understand the reason everyone is giving him shit and ruining his reputation isn't just to be mean to someone.  It's to make it harder for him to scam people in the future.
How lucky Get-Paid.com is that he did not read your extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit and deliberate blatant lies about Game Protect, engaged us and received his claim! :D


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: game-protect on November 06, 2019, 02:31:45 AM
xtraelx deliberately misleads the public with claiming that this email

https://i.gyazo.com/c93468342382dcdf69fe53a0000ac19a.png

is a WRITTEN CONTRACT! ::)

UK law is similar to the law in most commonwealth countries.

For contracts to be legally binding, five essential elements must be present. There must be:

1) An offer;
2) Acceptance of the offer;
3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
5) Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/[/quote]

Quote
3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
Does not exist!

Game Protect only takes donations without any legally binding agreement.

Quote
https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

Real world legal aspects: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donation) Donations are given without return consideration.


Quote
4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract
Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such! ::)


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Initscri on November 06, 2019, 02:37:43 AM
~snip

Calling it a donation DOESN'T MEAN it's not some form of consideration LMAO.

You calling it a donation is absolutely utter BS. It's not a donation, it's a transaction considering you're providing something in return, hence that screenshot is apart of a written contract.

http://archive.is/AX4Ev


Edit: btw, you posting "Donations are given without return consideration." literally proves our point if you knew how to read legalities. What that says is that donations are given without expectations of a return. When you email your clients you are suggesting you will be providing a service in exchange for their quote on quote "donation". HENCE, by that definition, what you are taking from them isn't a donation (using your own quote from wikipedia)


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: game-protect on November 06, 2019, 12:52:47 PM
~snip

Calling it a donation DOESN'T MEAN it's not some form of consideration LMAO.
It is not called a donation, it is a donation in writing! :D

Quote
https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!



Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Slow death on November 06, 2019, 02:07:36 PM
~snip

Calling it a donation DOESN'T MEAN it's not some form of consideration LMAO.
It is not called a donation, it is a donation in writing! :D

Quote
https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

but it seems to me that in this case:

This is what he promised:

https://i.imgur.com/t6GY3og.png

you promised to give back the money, that was no donation so don't come up with meaningless arguments. be honest person and do what you promised


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: game-protect on November 06, 2019, 02:13:04 PM
Game Protect already refunded the 210€:

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his public defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€ :)

Defamation

https://i.imgur.com/Guay6wI.png

Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.0)

Quote
h4ns (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947454) alleges: game-protect (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=874254) violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.0). game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

You are the one who is hiding behind anonymity and you are the one who is threatening and blackmailing other people.

Extortion

I want to give him a chance to make a statement on this. If he doesn't reply or refund my money I will red-flag him at a later point. Thanks for your advice.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Initscri on November 06, 2019, 03:57:34 PM
Game Protect already refunded the 210€:

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his public defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€ :)

Defamation

https://i.imgur.com/Guay6wI.png

Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.0)

Quote
h4ns (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947454) alleges: game-protect (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=874254) violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.0). game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

You are the one who is hiding behind anonymity and you are the one who is threatening and blackmailing other people.

Extortion

I want to give him a chance to make a statement on this. If he doesn't reply or refund my money I will red-flag him at a later point. Thanks for your advice.

Do I need to reference you to a specific song from a specific Youtuber?

"Still not defamation"


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: game-protect on November 07, 2019, 09:55:09 AM
Game Protect,

I am really sorry to see that's how you choose to resolve a small case with a customer of yours, regardless of who's right or wrong here, this in my opinion is not a way to conduct business. We are all human beings and you should have a certain level of leeway with other customers - regardless of who's right or wrong. If you insist on having no compromise then it shows a bad faith, I'm 100% against it.
Over 100,000€ damage caused by h4ns's false and misleading public defamation campaign towards Game Protect is a small case?

Only in this case the potential damage is 7 BTC = 60,000€!!!

If you have proof of your win, then you can engage the foundation / law firm cooperating with Game Protect.

We are specialized for Curacao online casinos and successfully enforced several claims.

Game Protect also warns about the MegaDice scam since 2017 MegaDice scam, 500+ Bitcoins defrauded and disappeared! (https://game-protect.com/megadice-scam/)

I am sorry, but the trust rating of your account is not the best.

And there are more online casino victims with huge claims who said they read on bitcointalk.org that Game Protect is a scammer!


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Kevinn22 on November 07, 2019, 07:54:34 PM
but you have stated multiple times that you only take ‘donations’...
How would there be any damages calculated if you only take donations? Either you are providing a service for a fee or you are taking donations. You can’t use both arguments for a defense against a scam you committed. Or are you just too mentally ill to understand that?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: game-protect on November 07, 2019, 08:36:35 PM
You can’t use both arguments for a defense against a scam you committed.
Who did I scam and how and at what day?


Or are you just too mentally ill to understand that?
You are obviously too mentally ill and or brain dead to understand what Game Protect does! ::)

Quote
How can I qualify?

1) Simply register your betting or gambling account with any Qualify free operator.

2) If you ignored the option 1) and got scammed, then you still have the following enforcement options:

a) Collection proceeding on a 65:35 no cure no pay basis, if the claim is at least around 5,000 Euro or

b) Donate 5% of your claim (minimum 100 Euro) in advance or

c) Register with any Qualify free operator and accumulate affiliate commission worth 5% of your claim.

https://game-protect.com/



After your brain substantiated that Game Protect is a scam / show, would not you withdraw your 7 pending enforcement cases?

(September 3rd) My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time.

Or would you want Game Protect continue to enforce your 7 claims towards sportsbooks?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: acarli on November 09, 2019, 12:53:46 AM
After your brain substantiated that Game Protect is a scam / show, would not you withdraw your 7 pending enforcement cases?
Or would you want Game Protect continue to enforce your 7 claims towards sportsbooks?

Stay clear of Game-Protect. It is not often that I truly dislike someone, but Game-Protect is one of them. He played multiple times at betbit.com and then threatened to go to the UK gambling commission if we did not pay him back his winnings. He did not have a gambling issue, he was predatory. He knowingly played with the idea he would claim any losses.

What kind of person does this? I'll tell you. Some would call that a scum-bag move, but I think it is infinetly worse. He literally steals from the brand. There are programmers, workers who depend on the business aspect of a gaming operation. Most importantly, players often win, and sometimes win very big. All of these things have to be taken into consideration.

Just seeing his name on a thread gets me riled up.

@Game-Protect Please send PM me your name and address.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: acarli on November 09, 2019, 02:45:46 PM
@Game-Protect
Because you said so in your email. You tried to extort us.

Facts: You deposited and played. If you would have won you kept the winnings. If you lose then you claim the losses based on regional jurisdictions. That is called "bad faith". Your business model is set up to be a parasite on gaming services. We would never concede to these extortion attempts.

In contrast, we strive to protect players by being responsible. We have set up an extensive self-exclusion system to prevent players from wagering outside of what they would consider entertainment. I challenge you to try to convince anyone on our staff to remove your self-exclusion settings. It would not happen, no matter how big of player you are.

Do you do what you do for yourself or for players? From reading above it seems that you do it for the 5% upfront fees. Also, screen your cases to make sure that the brands are at fault based on ethical behavior and not regional jurisdictions. I am sure there would be plenty of work out there for you if you were ethical yourself. You might even find brands like our supporting that type of business model. You could make players' lives better, protect against rogue brands and make a living with no one hating you. I'd say do that, as opposed to what you are doing now, which is blatantly predatory.v Predatory on gaming brands and predatory against players themselves.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: game-protect on November 09, 2019, 02:57:13 PM
@Game-Protect
Because you said so in your email. You tried to extort us.

Facts: You deposited and played. If you would have won you kept the winnings. If you lose then you claim the losses based on regional jurisdictions. That is called "bad faith". Your business model is set up to be a parasite on gaming services. We would never concede to these extortion attempts.

In contrast, we strive to protect players by being responsible. We have set up an extensive self-exclusion system to prevent players from wagering outside of what they would consider entertainment. I challenge you to try to convince anyone on our staff to remove your self-exclusion settings. It would not happen, no matter how big of player you are.

Do you do what you do for yourself or for players? From reading above it seems that you do it for the 5% upfront fees. Also, screen your cases to make sure that the brands are at fault based on ethical behavior and not regional jurisdictions. I am sure there would be plenty of work out there for you if you were ethical yourself. You might even find brands like our supporting that type of business model. You could make players' lives better, protect against rogue brands and make a living with no one hating you. I'd say do that, as opposed to what you are doing now, which is blatantly predatory.v Predatory on gaming brands and predatory against players themselves.
How do you know that the email is from Game Protect?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: xtraelv on November 09, 2019, 03:42:57 PM
Those "donations" people make. Do you gamble with those funds ?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Get-Paid.com on November 09, 2019, 09:20:22 PM
Game Protect,

I have removed my positive feedback, I am still thankful for your help in the past but I wish you best of luck with your future endeavors, hopefully you'd find better ones moving forward, I am out of any discussion about GP, unless something is extremely necessary but otherwise I am simply not going to get involved and wishing everyone success with their future endeavors.



Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: TwitchySeal on November 09, 2019, 09:46:37 PM
@Game-Protect
Because you said so in your email. You tried to extort us.

Facts: You deposited and played. If you would have won you kept the winnings. If you lose then you claim the losses based on regional jurisdictions. That is called "bad faith". Your business model is set up to be a parasite on gaming services. We would never concede to these extortion attempts.

In contrast, we strive to protect players by being responsible. We have set up an extensive self-exclusion system to prevent players from wagering outside of what they would consider entertainment. I challenge you to try to convince anyone on our staff to remove your self-exclusion settings. It would not happen, no matter how big of player you are.

Do you do what you do for yourself or for players? From reading above it seems that you do it for the 5% upfront fees. Also, screen your cases to make sure that the brands are at fault based on ethical behavior and not regional jurisdictions. I am sure there would be plenty of work out there for you if you were ethical yourself. You might even find brands like our supporting that type of business model. You could make players' lives better, protect against rogue brands and make a living with no one hating you. I'd say do that, as opposed to what you are doing now, which is blatantly predatory.v Predatory on gaming brands and predatory against players themselves.

More details please.  Post the emails with address partially blocked.  How much did he deposit, when , what games did he play?

Any info may be helpful in helping in preventing him from future scams.

If he did this to your site, he probably has done it to others as well, and will do it to more in the future.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: acarli on November 10, 2019, 04:34:22 AM
How do you know that the email is from Game Protect?

I've gone to your website. I was surprised to see so many legitimate players who need help. These are players with a real legitimate need for help. It seems that if you just changed the predatory nature of your model to one of player service you would have lots of fans and be renumerated accordingly. You could build a community based on ethics and not jurisdictional loop-holes. It's not too late to be of service to your fellow man.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: mu_enrico on November 10, 2019, 09:55:42 PM
Hmm "extortion" and "Game-Protect"... I think I have read this obvious hypothesis before? There is a strong probability that GP extorts her victims via trolling casino ANN, her signature, email, article, and her Curacao license list.

Any more of GP extortion victims want to raise voice?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: game-protect on November 12, 2019, 02:57:12 PM
@Game-Protect
Because you said so in your email. You tried to extort us.

Facts: You deposited and played. If you would have won you kept the winnings. If you lose then you claim the losses based on regional jurisdictions. That is called "bad faith". Your business model is set up to be a parasite on gaming services. We would never concede to these extortion attempts.

In contrast, we strive to protect players by being responsible. We have set up an extensive self-exclusion system to prevent players from wagering outside of what they would consider entertainment. I challenge you to try to convince anyone on our staff to remove your self-exclusion settings. It would not happen, no matter how big of player you are.

Do you do what you do for yourself or for players? From reading above it seems that you do it for the 5% upfront fees. Also, screen your cases to make sure that the brands are at fault based on ethical behavior and not regional jurisdictions. I am sure there would be plenty of work out there for you if you were ethical yourself. You might even find brands like our supporting that type of business model. You could make players' lives better, protect against rogue brands and make a living with no one hating you. I'd say do that, as opposed to what you are doing now, which is blatantly predatory.v Predatory on gaming brands and predatory against players themselves.
Please show the email?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Betwrong on November 13, 2019, 09:37:52 AM
~
Quote
He did use a lawyer with my case but the case did not take too long to be settled.
Are you 100% sure?  Like, did you actually speak to or communicate with the lawyer?
~

My thoughts exactly. I have an impression that what Game-Protect is doing when he is "helping" someone to get their money back, is spamming the casino with complaints, threats etc., and in the end some of them give up and pay.

We have a lot of such "services" where I live. They propose their clients "to resolve the issue" for a small percentage in return. But what their clients don't realize is that they could resolve the issue by themselves just as well, without  the need to pay anything to anyone.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Get-Paid.com on November 14, 2019, 03:09:05 AM

My thoughts exactly. I have an impression that what Game-Protect is doing when he is "helping" someone to get their money back, is spamming the casino with complaints, threats etc., and in the end some of them give up and pay.

We have a lot of such "services" where I live. They propose their clients "to resolve the issue" for a small percentage in return. But what their clients don't realize is that they could resolve the issue by themselves just as well, without  the need to pay anything to anyone.

In my case I wasn't able to resolve the issue by myself and Game Protect helped me get compensated.

HOWEVER,

The fact that Game Protect is not issuing a refund, as promised, is something I don't tolerate neither.

In my opinion a business needs to be straightforward with its customers, and when there is a lack of transparency or breach of trust - then that raises a red flag.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: game-protect on November 14, 2019, 10:39:15 AM

My thoughts exactly. I have an impression that what Game-Protect is doing when he is "helping" someone to get their money back, is spamming the casino with complaints, threats etc., and in the end some of them give up and pay.

We have a lot of such "services" where I live. They propose their clients "to resolve the issue" for a small percentage in return. But what their clients don't realize is that they could resolve the issue by themselves just as well, without  the need to pay anything to anyone.

The fact that Game Protect is not issuing a refund, as promised, is something I don't tolerate neither.
It is a fact that the 210€ were refunded after request on 3rd September:

h4ns to GP 100,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his public defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 99,790€ :)


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Get-Paid.com on November 14, 2019, 11:46:16 AM

The fact that Game Protect is not issuing a refund, as promised, is something I don't tolerate neither.
It is a fact that the 210€ were refunded after request on 3rd September:

h4ns to GP 100,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his public defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 99,790€ :)

It was €20,000 - how did it jump to €100,000 ?

Anyway criticism is something every business gets, it's part of life- our business too gets criticism - will we fine a user of ours by not processing his withdrawal for criticizing our site? no.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: game-protect on November 14, 2019, 01:01:52 PM

The fact that Game Protect is not issuing a refund, as promised, is something I don't tolerate neither.
It is a fact that the 210€ were refunded after request on 3rd September:

h4ns to GP 100,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his public defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 99,790€ :)

It was €20,000 - how did it jump to €100,000 ?
This https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254 published false and misleading red flag causes

Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they strongly believe that the creator of this topic is a scammer. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.

shown above all my threads and causes Warning: Trade wth extreme caution! shown at my public profile and causes a ton of false and misleading feedbacks on my trust page!

The longer it is publicly shown the more online casino victims will get misled!

Alone in this case the potential damage is 35% of 20 BTC = 7 BTC = USD 63,000:

If you have proof of your win, then you can engage the foundation / law firm cooperating with Game Protect.

We are specialized for Curacao online casinos and successfully enforced several claims.

Game Protect also warns about the MegaDice scam since 2017 MegaDice scam, 500+ Bitcoins defrauded and disappeared! (https://game-protect.com/megadice-scam/)

I am sorry, but the trust rating of your account is not the best.


Anyway criticism is something every business gets, it's part of life-
Publicly false and misleading claiming that Game Protect scammed a customer for 210€ is the criminal offense of defamation and not criticizing!

Publicly extorting Game Protect to make a public statement is the criminal offense of extortion and not criticizing!

@Game Protect

I would like to remind you that I give you the chance to make a statement on this. I also would like you to know that I give you four weeks to refund the money but you have to commit to it now. If you promise to do so, I won't create a red flag. It's not my intention to judge or to blame you for your actions but if you neither reply nor refund the money you leave me no choice.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Get-Paid.com on November 14, 2019, 01:59:24 PM
A user named Gregi1 accused CEX.io of being a scam - proof:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2174542.0

Did CEX.io ask the user to compensate them for damages? The thread is so far a 10 page long, and CEX is actively participating in this thread alleviating the doubts and hesitations that customers or potential customers might have on their business.

That's a good business practice - to resolve issues.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: game-protect on November 15, 2019, 11:18:26 AM
A user named Gregi1 accused CEX.io of being a scam
Is the scam accusation proven and true?

Did Gregi1 create a red flag causing

Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they strongly believe that the creator of this topic is a scammer. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.

shown above all CEX.io threads and causing Warning: Trade with exteme caution! shown at the public profile?


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: nutildah on November 16, 2019, 03:15:06 AM
A user named Gregi1 accused CEX.io of being a scam
Is the scam accusation proven and true?

Did Gregi1 create a red flag causing

Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they strongly believe that the creator of this topic is a scammer. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.

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You're missing the point. The point is that acting professionally pays off. If a business maintains professionalism when dealing with criticism, they are far more likely to be successful in the future than if they act like you, which is anything but professional. You destroyed your own reputation by conducting your business like a vengefully insane person and now there's nobody to blame but yourself.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: game-protect on November 16, 2019, 11:09:27 AM
You destroyed your own reputation by conducting your business like a vengefully insane person and now there's nobody to blame but yourself.
Now I understand the schizophrenia of your extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk account!

You is I, sun is moon and war is peace! :D

You abuse the trust system with knowingly supporting a flag containing the incorrect fact-statement that a written contract was violated around July 2019 and then you claim that I destroyed my reputation! ::)

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h4ns (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947454) alleges: game-protect (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=874254) violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.0). game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

Support: nutildah

Creating or supporting a scammer flag is actively affirming a set of pretty clear fact-statements. If someone knowingly supports a flag containing incorrect fact-statements, then that is crystal-clear abuse, and I will seek to have such people removed from DT ASAP. People who are habitually wrong, even not knowingly, should also be removed.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: nutildah on November 16, 2019, 11:45:04 AM
Creating or supporting a scammer flag is actively affirming a set of pretty clear fact-statements. If someone knowingly supports a flag containing incorrect fact-statements, then that is crystal-clear abuse, and I will seek to have such people removed from DT ASAP. People who are habitually wrong, even not knowingly, should also be removed.

Right, and like I said in the other thread, if theymos supported you and not our decision to render your email to h4ns a written contract, then we would have heard about it by now.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: game-protect on November 23, 2019, 12:15:06 PM
Real world laws and regulations stand above brain wash nonsense shit! :)


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Initscri on November 24, 2019, 04:43:49 AM
Real world laws and regulations stand above brain wash nonsense shit! :)

Precisely.

Real world laws and regulations DO stand above brain wash nonsense shit... your brain wash nonsense shit to be exact.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Jenniraye88 on November 26, 2019, 02:09:41 PM
Hi Everyone

Just a short note from me to say that unfortunately I have lost all hope that anything will happen with my case. The FACTS are:

I sent GP a support note just over a year ago telling him about my claim. This included the fact that I gambled on a Curacao website (which i believe shouldn't accept UK players anyway) and despite the fact that I requested 50+ times over the course of 6 months that my account be closed/blocked/excluded, they continued to send me promotions and credit my account with small amounts to entice me back. My e-mails and requests were never responded to and I ended up losing £12k ish.

GP asked me for a 5% donation to take on my case but I wasn't willing to pay. Get-Paid kindly invested in my case and GP said that he would engage a lawyer.

I didn't hear anything for a long time after that (4-5 months maybe) which is why i started the thread here. I wanted to try and get things moving. GP e-mailed me after i started the thread and said that if started publishing any of our conversations, he would tell the Lawyer to pull my case.

I did speak to a lawyer for the first time in August 2019, about 8 months after submitting my case. I was asked to sign documents and told to leave it with him. For the first 3-4 weeks my e-mails were responded to and i was informed that the owners of the casino in question had left. But he said he would try and find another way to enforce my case.

When asking the Lawyer for an update, Game Protect replied to him saying: "Jenni published details about the enforcement proceeding on a forum
that lead to Game Protect was getting attacked. Therefore I recommend to not give details about the enforcement proceeding to Jennifer, as there is a high risk that she will publish it."

This is of course not true; i've never given details of my case before now.

Since then, despite chasing, I have heard nothing.

Fortunately, my gambling days are far behind me and i most certainly was not relying or banking on getting any of my money back. I felt it was a long shot from the start. 

But what I will say now, is that Game Protect is terrible to deal with. I had to constantly chase for updates and was continually attacked by him for simply wanting to know what was going on. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.

Thank you Get Paid for all your help. I'm sorry we did not win this one and that you have lost out on my behalf.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: nutildah on November 26, 2019, 02:17:33 PM
Hi Everyone

Just a short note from me to say that unfortunately I have lost all hope that anything will happen with my case. The FACTS are:

I sent GP a support note just over a year ago telling him about my claim. This included the fact that I gambled on a Curacao website (which i believe shouldn't accept UK players anyway) and despite the fact that I requested 50+ times over the course of 6 months that my account be closed/blocked/excluded, they continued to send me promotions and credit my account with small amounts to entice me back. My e-mails and requests were never responded to and I ended up losing £12k ish.

GP asked me for a 5% donation to take on my case but I wasn't willing to pay. Get-Paid kindly invested in my case and GP said that he would engage a lawyer.

I didn't hear anything for a long time after that (4-5 months maybe) which is why i started the thread here. I wanted to try and get things moving. GP e-mailed me after i started the thread and said that if started publishing any of our conversations, he would tell the Lawyer to pull my case.

I did speak to a lawyer for the first time in August 2019, about 8 months after submitting my case. I was asked to sign documents and told to leave it with him. For the first 3-4 weeks my e-mails were responded to and i was informed that the owners of the casino in question had left. But he said he would try and find another way to enforce my case.

When asking the Lawyer for an update, Game Protect replied to him saying: "Jenni published details about the enforcement proceeding on a forum
that lead to Game Protect was getting attacked. Therefore I recommend to not give details about the enforcement proceeding to Jennifer, as there is a high risk that she will publish it."

This is of course not true; i've never given details of my case before now.

Since then, despite chasing, I have heard nothing.

Fortunately, my gambling days are far behind me and i most certainly was not relying or banking on getting any of my money back. I felt it was a long shot from the start.  

But what I will say now, is that Game Protect is terrible to deal with. I had to constantly chase for updates and was continually attacked by him for simply wanting to know what was going on. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.

Thank you Get Paid for all your help. I'm sorry we did not win this one and that you have lost out on my behalf.

Thank you for your update. I am of course sorry that nothing could be done on your behalf, but glad to hear you are out of gambling (as ironic as it may sound given my avatar). My honest advice to you is to not post further on this forum under your current ID as game-protect has been threatening to dox customers who complain or file lawsuits against them for "defamation." Of course, he/she has not actually filed such a lawsuit to date, but you certainly don't need that on your mind as a possibility. Perhaps the lawyer you have engaged with is more honest than game-protect themselves and will see your case through independent of their involvement. In any case, good luck in your future endeavors.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Get-Paid.com on November 26, 2019, 03:13:48 PM
Hi Everyone

Just a short note from me to say that unfortunately I have lost all hope that anything will happen with my case. The FACTS are:

I sent GP a support note just over a year ago telling him about my claim. This included the fact that I gambled on a Curacao website (which i believe shouldn't accept UK players anyway) and despite the fact that I requested 50+ times over the course of 6 months that my account be closed/blocked/excluded, they continued to send me promotions and credit my account with small amounts to entice me back. My e-mails and requests were never responded to and I ended up losing £12k ish.

GP asked me for a 5% donation to take on my case but I wasn't willing to pay. Get-Paid kindly invested in my case and GP said that he would engage a lawyer.

I didn't hear anything for a long time after that (4-5 months maybe) which is why i started the thread here. I wanted to try and get things moving. GP e-mailed me after i started the thread and said that if started publishing any of our conversations, he would tell the Lawyer to pull my case.

I did speak to a lawyer for the first time in August 2019, about 8 months after submitting my case. I was asked to sign documents and told to leave it with him. For the first 3-4 weeks my e-mails were responded to and i was informed that the owners of the casino in question had left. But he said he would try and find another way to enforce my case.

When asking the Lawyer for an update, Game Protect replied to him saying: "Jenni published details about the enforcement proceeding on a forum
that lead to Game Protect was getting attacked. Therefore I recommend to not give details about the enforcement proceeding to Jennifer, as there is a high risk that she will publish it."

This is of course not true; i've never given details of my case before now.

Since then, despite chasing, I have heard nothing.

Fortunately, my gambling days are far behind me and i most certainly was not relying or banking on getting any of my money back. I felt it was a long shot from the start. 

But what I will say now, is that Game Protect is terrible to deal with. I had to constantly chase for updates and was continually attacked by him for simply wanting to know what was going on. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.

Thank you Get Paid for all your help. I'm sorry we did not win this one and that you have lost out on my behalf.

Sorry to hear about all this, I've asked Game Protect to refund h4ns money that was owed to him ... I explained to him why in my opinion it's important to do so ... but unfortunately it never happened, not until now at least.

Now I see that your case is pretty lost - it's very sad .... you don't have to be sorry for me not winning this one, I've learned my lesson ... I'm very disappointed to see what has happened with Game Protect - it's truly sad ... a business that could have been genuine, robust, provide help for those in need - looks like it's all in shatters now,  after seeing 2 unsuccessful cases (yours and h4ns) this looks bad.

Game Protect - again I appreciate your help in the past that you helped me win a case, however I think moving forward it's just not working, you cannot leave your customers stranded like this ... looking for any little detail or reason to blame your customers like you did with Jenny is also unscrupulous ... she made this thread initially after not hearing for several months from you ... how can you explain that she hasn't received proper replies? In your line of business ignoring emails is okay? Selectively choosing when to reply is okay? Or telling a lawyer to not reply to a customer because she went to the forum is okay? (and she initially went to the forum without causing any defamation or issues to you, I even tried to explain the situation as shown in this thread).

As far as I'm concerned I feel sorry for the customers, I also feel sorry for you for not going through the right path ... this is just not right but what else can I do to try and explain that the right path (for any business whatsoever) is working WITH customers and not AGAINST them.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: nutildah on November 26, 2019, 03:16:21 PM
But what I will say now, is that Game Protect is terrible to deal with. I had to constantly chase for updates and was continually attacked by him for simply wanting to know what was going on. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.
I never attacked you, you blatant lying piece of shit!

My support just ended here and you can handle your claim with the lawyer directly!

Uh, I just had to quote this in case if by the far off insane piece of chance GP should ever have another client again in the future... they should know exactly what they're dealing with.

What's weird is they edited their post to include the words "blatantly lying piece of shit". You don't see that every day!


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: Get-Paid.com on November 26, 2019, 03:25:29 PM

Thank you for your update. I am of course sorry that nothing could be done on your behalf, but glad to hear you are out of gambling (as ironic as it may sound given my avatar). My honest advice to you is to not post further on this forum under your current ID as game-protect has been threatening to dox customers who complain or file lawsuits against them for "defamation." Of course, he/she has not actually filed such a lawsuit to date, but you certainly don't need that on your mind as a possibility. Perhaps the lawyer you have engaged with is more honest than game-protect themselves and will see your case through independent of their involvement. In any case, good luck in your future endeavors.

I think you should thank her for sharing her story, the forum didn't have many cases of actual experience with GP, and in my opinion it's truly sad to see a customer being treated like this ... being called a piece of **** - maybe she wasn't the one making the deposit (aka donation), I did it, but I did it as an investment and far as I was concerned Jenni should have been treated with professionalism and with respect just as if she made the deposit (aka donation) by herself.

I think the forum should thank her for being honest, I also thank her, I also thanked Game Protect for helping me in the past, I would always appreciate it but nonetheless I am very disappointed to see how things are now ... very sad ...


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: TwitchySeal on November 26, 2019, 08:22:35 PM
I never attacked you, you blatant lying piece of shit!

GP, you are the piece of shit - not her.  Go crawl back into the hole you came from and stop preying on vulnerable casino victims.  




Thank you for your update. I am of course sorry that nothing could be done on your behalf, but glad to hear you are out of gambling (as ironic as it may sound given my avatar). My honest advice to you is to not post further on this forum under your current ID as game-protect has been threatening to dox customers who complain or file lawsuits against them for "defamation." Of course, he/she has not actually filed such a lawsuit to date, but you certainly don't need that on your mind as a possibility. Perhaps the lawyer you have engaged with is more honest than game-protect themselves and will see your case through independent of their involvement. In any case, good luck in your future endeavors.

I think you should thank her for sharing her story, the forum didn't have many cases of actual experience with GP, and in my opinion it's truly sad to see a customer being treated like this ... being called a piece of **** - maybe she wasn't the one making the deposit (aka donation), I did it, but I did it as an investment and far as I was concerned Jenni should have been treated with professionalism and with respect just as if she made the deposit (aka donation) by herself.

I think the forum should thank her for being honest, I also thank her, I also thanked Game Protect for helping me in the past, I would always appreciate it but nonetheless I am very disappointed to see how things are now ... very sad ...


He did thank her.  And I thank her as well.  Sharing personal experience with these kind of services is always good for the community.


Title: Re: Game Protect Legal Case - Curacao License Scam
Post by: game-protect on November 30, 2019, 12:18:28 PM
There is, however, lots of evidence that he's collected significant amounts from players over the years, and also plenty of evidence that these players never actually recovered anything.
Please show the lots and plenty of evidence (based on real world laws and regulations)?