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Economy => Gambling discussion => Topic started by: Negev on March 27, 2019, 11:26:01 PM


Title: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on March 27, 2019, 11:26:01 PM
Hi forum.

I would like to start a diary about professional sport trading on this forum.

First of all, my number one reason for starting this diary is mainly personal motivation; imagine talking to a random friend in a small town about full time betting with a 100k. Even I would make a bet that that person would think that at best, that you’re crazy. As those kind of people really make me sick, I created this topic where I can track myself and hopefully get some understanding of what I can do.


Now the important part for dummies:

Please do NOT bet. Ever. You will not make a long term profit on most of the bookies because of their odds. Even if you actually do, they will ban your account. YOU WILL FAIL.

The only way you can beat the bookies long term is if you manage to make a better analysis of the probabilities in Asian markets than the bookie itself. That is the reason most of the bookies will get rid of you if they detect that.

There are a few bookies which will have probably no issues with this: Pinnacle, 3ET, Maxbet, SBO. The reason they let us do that is because these bookmakers try to earn money on large volume and low margins rather than on idiots.

Even if I manage to make profits, you should NEVER do something like this on your own, neither any kind of gambling at all. I do not want and will not make anybody a gambler.

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Remember, I’m not alone in this, I DO NOT HAVE THE 100K, I’m doing this on paper. I will never sell nor send you any picks or subscriptions. Period.



THE PLAN

THEORY

100,000 GBP starting bankroll.

30,000 GBP upkeep of a small team and an office for 6 months.

Total investment: 130,000 GBP.

Sports: Soccer and Tennis.

Stakes: variable


PICKS

Each time I post the summary of the (previous) day, you will see a code in the end of post that looks like gibberish. That code contains the picks, which I will not reveal. Maybe I will show to a mod after the 6 months.


QUESTIONS

Any questions and suggestions are welcome and appreciated.

A few answers right now:
- No, I will never sell you my picks neither allow you to gamble.
- No, you should not bet on these bookmakers.
- Only a scammer would give you picks like these for free.
- I may change the updates from daily to weekly at some point.
- Maybe I am a fraudster making up all the picks and posting fake results.



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Day 1: 2019-03-26

Number of trades: 20

P/L = -3388 GBP
Bank: 96612 GBP


Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on March 27, 2019, 11:36:00 PM
Reserved.

Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on March 28, 2019, 09:05:10 PM
Day 2 - 2019-03-27

Number of trades: 12
P/L = -750,5 GBP
Bank: 95861,5 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: MakeMoneyBtc on March 29, 2019, 01:59:18 AM
I've also been thinking about doing the same kind of thing in the past just to see how much profit I could make if I have a fixed bankroll and I place only bets that i am sure one because I usually use different wagers and I don't have a diary of my bets, loses and wins. I wish you good luck with this and hope that you could end up in profit at the end and maybe also help some of the people who need some free picks.

Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Bitinity on March 29, 2019, 11:00:44 AM
So it is like a secret picks that will be revealed once you finish the challenge? I have no ideas what is the purpose of sharing a sport betting challenge secretly. But of course it is your own right, hope it goes as expected.
Anyway what is the purpose of putting your contact? Are you selling the picks privately? Or maybe members here can invest on your challenge?

Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: logfiles on March 29, 2019, 04:55:42 PM
Quote from: madnessteat on March 29, 2019, 03:44:49 PM
You will not publish your bets?
Yeah, he says he won't reveal the picks but those code you see about contain the picks.
Hopefully he reveals the picks after six months.

Thanks for starting up this thread.
I am really curious to see what the outcome of the experiment is. It could perhaps change my thinking about gambling and the different bookies.
I will check in from time to time to see updates.
Cheers.

Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Zadicar on March 29, 2019, 10:44:59 PM
Quote from: Bitinity on March 29, 2019, 11:00:44 AM
So it is like a secret picks that will be revealed once you finish the challenge? I have no ideas what is the purpose of sharing a sport betting challenge secretly. But of course it is your own right, hope it goes as expected.
Anyway what is the purpose of putting your contact? Are you selling the picks privately? Or maybe members here can invest on your challenge?

Quote
Each time I post the summary of the (previous) day, you will see a code in the end of post that looks like gibberish. That code contains the picks, which I will not reveal. Maybe I will show to a mod after the 6 months.
So whats the point on posting this thread?

Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on March 29, 2019, 11:00:06 PM
Day 3 - 2019-03-28

Number of trades: 16
P/L = +2725 GBP
Bank: 98586,5 GBP

Code:
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Quote from: MakeMoneyBtc on March 29, 2019, 01:59:18 AM
I've also been thinking about doing the same kind of thing in the past just to see how much profit I could make if I have a fixed bankroll and I place only bets that i am sure one because I usually use different wagers and I don't have a diary of my bets, loses and wins. I wish you good luck with this and hope that you could end up in profit at the end and maybe also help some of the people who need some free picks.

I'm glad that there are people who find something like this interesting. Regarding free picks, I would actually not like to make anybody gamble. I think I know what I'm doing and at the same time I think that could potentially make someone gamble or even worse, a gambler. I hope I'm right tho.


Quote from: Bitinity on March 29, 2019, 11:00:44 AM
So it is like a secret picks that will be revealed once you finish the challenge? I have no ideas what is the purpose of sharing a sport betting challenge secretly. But of course it is your own right, hope it goes as expected.
Anyway what is the purpose of putting your contact? Are you selling the picks privately? Or maybe members here can invest on your challenge?

Well, as I said in the first post, my main goal is to keep a betting diary for myself. Of course I can do that in a spreadsheet for myself, but if I succeed, I would enjoy the feedback, questions or suggestions from the community; you can't just chat with a regular person about betting these kind of amounts, they would probably think that you are crazy at your place too. I'm not alone in this, neither is this gambling. I made and maintain this project while posting my results on a forum to keep me motivated.

Regarding investments and selling, I think it is early to think about something like that, and I would not like to give promises I can't keep, ever. That does not mean I'm not interested in a suggestion, so thank you.

About the secret part. Imagine you and a team of yours made a Bitcoin trading strategy that you created, twisted, tested and it actually made good profits over the long term. Would you be comfortable sharing it openly?


Quote from: logfiles on March 29, 2019, 04:55:42 PM
Quote from: madnessteat on March 29, 2019, 03:44:49 PM
You will not publish your bets?
Yeah, he says he won't reveal the picks but those code you see about contain the picks.
Hopefully he reveals the picks after six months.

Thanks for starting up this thread.
I am really curious to see what the outcome of the experiment is. It could perhaps change my thinking about gambling and the different bookies.
I will check in from time to time to see updates.
Cheers.

Thank you, I really hope it will be worth it.


Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on March 30, 2019, 10:52:03 PM
Day 4 - 2019-03-29

Number of trades: 29
P/L =  -55 GBP
Bank: 98530,5 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 01, 2019, 06:05:50 PM
Day 5 - 2019-03-30

Number of trades: 35
P/L = -1822,5 GBP
Bank: 96708 GBP

Code:
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Day 6 - 2019-03-31
Number of trades: 27
P/L = +1905 GBP
Bank: 98613 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 02, 2019, 10:40:32 PM
Day 7 - 2019-04-01

Number of trades: 9
P/L =  +930 GBP
Bank: 99543 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: jakelyson on April 03, 2019, 01:13:45 AM
Is this diary for your own consumption only? There is no way for us to verify your bets because it is in code. You do not have to detail how you make your picks, but it is more entertaining and educational for those who follow your thread if there is a way to verify that those numbers are factual.


Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: traderethereum on April 03, 2019, 05:56:06 AM
Quote from: Negev on March 29, 2019, 11:00:06 PM
About the secret part. Imagine you and a team of yours made a Bitcoin trading strategy that you created, twisted, tested and it actually made good profits over the long term. Would you be comfortable sharing it openly?
If the purposes of sharing are for educational only, then I think we could feel comfortable because we are helping other people to follow the journey and we hope that they can get some lesson from what we share. But if the purposes are for shows off, then I don't think that it will be great for himself.

You can share your bet here so we can watch how good you bet and we can know how much you can win in the gambling games. But maybe you can share more info about your bets like how many times your bet in a day or it is just one bet in a day, who are the teams or player you bet, or else.

Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: YuginKadoya on April 03, 2019, 03:05:07 PM
Quote from: Negev on March 27, 2019, 11:26:01 PM

- Maybe I am a fraudster making up all the picks and posting fake results.


He even includes in his answer that he can be a fraudster and this whole thing is just fake, But anyway I don't really understand his code even though I would like free tips on your picks I can not decode it, Well that is why you don't want us playing gamble, and the purpose you are doing this is  for your personal diary only, Well there is no good reason why I even post here but I am really curious if anyone can really decode his code then I appreciate it, Until then good luck.

Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 04, 2019, 12:06:02 PM
Day 8 - 2019-04-02

Number of trades: 7
P/L =   -629,5 GBP
Bank: 98913,5 GBP

Code:
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Day 9 - 2019-04-03
Number of trades: 37
P/L =   −3482,5 GBP
Bank: 95431 GBP

Code:
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Quote from: traderethereum on April 03, 2019, 05:56:06 AM
Quote from: Negev on March 29, 2019, 11:00:06 PM
About the secret part. Imagine you and a team of yours made a Bitcoin trading strategy that you created, twisted, tested and it actually made good profits over the long term. Would you be comfortable sharing it openly?
If the purposes of sharing are for educational only, then I think we could feel comfortable because we are helping other people to follow the journey and we hope that they can get some lesson from what we share. But if the purposes are for shows off, then I don't think that it will be great for himself.

You can share your bet here so we can watch how good you bet and we can know how much you can win in the gambling games. But maybe you can share more info about your bets like how many times your bet in a day or it is just one bet in a day, who are the teams or player you bet, or else.

Number of trades = number of bets.

Quote from: YuginKadoya on April 03, 2019, 03:05:07 PM
Quote from: Negev on March 27, 2019, 11:26:01 PM

- Maybe I am a fraudster making up all the picks and posting fake results.


He even includes in his answer that he can be a fraudster and this whole thing is just fake, But anyway I don't really understand his code even though I would like free tips on your picks I can not decode it, Well that is why you don't want us playing gamble, and the purpose you are doing this is  for your personal diary only, Well there is no good reason why I even post here but I am really curious if anyone can really decode his code then I appreciate it, Until then good luck.

Unfortunately I will not give any free or paid tips. If I share the bets, there would be people who would blindly bet those same bets without any staking plan and lose. Second, I do not have the resources nor the time, to educate people to calculate the stakes and post the tips daily on time. Third, I am not alone in this and I'm not the only one feeling uncomfortable sharing the tips. I hope you can understand it. Good luck with cracking the code however  :D

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If a mod asks me to reveal the code privately, I can do that, so he can prove that there are bets behind the code if that would make somebody feel better.

Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 05, 2019, 02:32:07 PM
Day 10 - 2019-04-04
Number of trades: 33
P/L =   +7442.5 GBP
Bank: 102873,5 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 07, 2019, 09:05:48 PM
Day 11 - 2019-04-05
Number of trades: 21
P/L =  −530 GBP
Bank: 102343,5 GBP

Code:
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Day 12 - 2019-04-06
Number of trades: 42
P/L =  +1187,5 GBP
Bank: 103531 GBP

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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 08, 2019, 08:44:29 PM
Day 13 - 2019-04-07
Number of trades: 32
P/L =  +747.5 GBP
Bank: 104278,5 GBP

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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Bitinity on April 09, 2019, 09:07:42 AM
Dont you have a specific target of limit of this experiment? Will you stop when you do it for 6 months only or will you stop when you have no balance left (in case you get so bad losing streak) only?
Afaik it is just an experiment without real money involved but I think it should have a target.

Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 11, 2019, 12:29:13 AM
Day 14 - 2019-04-08
Number of trades: 26
P/L =  −8395 GBP
Bank: 95883,5 GBP

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Day 15 - 2019-04-09
Number of trades: 56
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Bank: 102868,5 GBP

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Quote from: Bitinity on April 09, 2019, 09:07:42 AM
Dont you have a specific target of limit of this experiment? Will you stop when you do it for 6 months only or will you stop when you have no balance left (in case you get so bad losing streak) only?
Afaik it is just an experiment without real money involved but I think it should have a target.

My target is actually six months. It is not really a smart thing to set a specific amount as a target, especially for long term. My point is to have positive results over a long period of time, that is the only goal.




Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: carter34 on April 11, 2019, 10:25:18 AM
So after 6 months, you would be open in your bets because I have followed the beginning, you have made them coded probably for your own consumption.

Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 11, 2019, 12:34:07 PM
Day 16 - 2019-04-10
Number of trades: 25
P/L = -1825 GBP
Bank: 101043,5 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: traderethereum on April 11, 2019, 02:48:26 PM
Quote from: Negev on April 11, 2019, 12:29:13 AM
Quote from: Bitinity on April 09, 2019, 09:07:42 AM
Dont you have a specific target of limit of this experiment? Will you stop when you do it for 6 months only or will you stop when you have no balance left (in case you get so bad losing streak) only?
Afaik it is just an experiment without real money involved but I think it should have a target.

My target is actually six months. It is not really a smart thing to set a specific amount as a target, especially for long term. My point is to have positive results over a long period of time, that is the only goal.
So you need to be very careful with every bet you make and don't put too much money if you aren't sure with the teams. But I am sure that you can handle that with ease as I see you can get the information that will help you to decide and choose the right teams. Well, still be careful, and I wish that you can reach your goals in after six months.

Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 12, 2019, 10:16:50 PM
Day 17 - 2019-04-11
Number of trades: 34
P/L = +3740 GBP
Bank: 104783,5 GBP

Code:
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Quote from: traderethereum on April 11, 2019, 02:48:26 PM
Quote from: Negev on April 11, 2019, 12:29:13 AM
Quote from: Bitinity on April 09, 2019, 09:07:42 AM
Dont you have a specific target of limit of this experiment? Will you stop when you do it for 6 months only or will you stop when you have no balance left (in case you get so bad losing streak) only?
Afaik it is just an experiment without real money involved but I think it should have a target.

My target is actually six months. It is not really a smart thing to set a specific amount as a target, especially for long term. My point is to have positive results over a long period of time, that is the only goal.
So you need to be very careful with every bet you make and don't put too much money if you aren't sure with the teams. But I am sure that you can handle that with ease as I see you can get the information that will help you to decide and choose the right teams. Well, still be careful, and I wish that you can reach your goals in after six months.

Of course  ;)

Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 13, 2019, 05:47:02 PM
Day 18 - 2019-04-12
Number of trades: 41
P/L = +1635 GBP
Bank: 106418,5 GBP

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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 14, 2019, 07:23:37 PM
Day 19 - 2019-04-13
Number of trades: 43
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Bank: 114953,5 GBP

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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 15, 2019, 09:10:15 PM
Day 20 - 2019-04-14
Number of trades: 30
P/L = -2475 GBP
Bank: 112478,5 GBP

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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 16, 2019, 08:22:26 AM
Day 21 - 2019-04-15
Number of trades: 16
P/L = -2075 GBP
Bank: 110403,5 GBP

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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 17, 2019, 07:37:54 PM
Day 22 - 2019-04-16
Number of trades: 22
P/L = +1860 GBP
Bank: 112263,5 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 18, 2019, 10:26:21 PM
Day 23 - 2019-04-17
Number of trades: 28
P/L = +2527,5 GBP
Bank: 114791 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 20, 2019, 12:41:47 PM
Day 24 - 2019-04-18
Number of trades: 30
P/L = -867,5 GBP
Bank: 113923,5 GBP

Code:
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Day 25 - 2019-04-19
Number of trades: 22
P/L = -55 GBP
Bank: 113868,5 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 21, 2019, 10:04:30 AM
Day 26 - 2019-04-20
Number of trades: 26
P/L = +6727,5 GBP
Bank: 120596 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 22, 2019, 11:12:42 AM
Day 27 - 2019-04-21
Number of trades: 24
P/L = -1670 GBP
Bank: 118926 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 23, 2019, 11:17:13 AM
Day 28 - 2019-04-22
Number of trades: 37
P/L =  +6032,5 GBP
Bank: 124958,5 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 24, 2019, 12:46:55 PM
Day 29 - 2019-04-23
Number of trades: 47
P/L =  -5692,5 GBP
Bank: 119266 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 25, 2019, 11:24:02 PM
Day 30 - 2019-04-24
Number of trades: 53
P/L =  -3957,5 GBP
Bank: 115308,5 GBP

Code:
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Day 31 - 2019-04-25

Number of trades: 40
P/L =  +11911 GBP
Bank: 127219.5 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 28, 2019, 12:39:42 AM
Day 32 - 2019-04-26

Number of trades: 62
P/L =  -4238 GBP
Bank: 122981,5 GBP

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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 28, 2019, 11:27:06 AM
Day 33 - 2019-04-27

Number of trades: 67
P/L =  +22010,5 GBP
Bank: 144992 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on April 29, 2019, 11:56:32 AM
Day 34 - 2019-04-28

Number of trades: 57
P/L =  +10645 GBP
Bank: 155637 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on May 01, 2019, 11:53:33 AM
Day 35 - 2019-04-29

Number of trades: 44
P/L =  -14053,5 GBP
Bank: 141583,5 GBP

Code:
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Day 36 - 2019-04-30

Number of trades: 33
P/L =  -26,5 GBP
Bank: 141557 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on May 02, 2019, 09:54:10 PM
Day 36 - 2019-05-01

Number of trades: 7
P/L =  -1394,5 GBP
Bank: 140189 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on May 04, 2019, 01:43:16 AM
Day 37 - 2019-05-02

Number of trades: 35
P/L =  -3281 GBP
Bank: 136908 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on May 04, 2019, 01:11:31 PM
Day 38 - 2019-05-03

Number of trades: 33
P/L =  +9133 GBP
Bank: 146041 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on May 05, 2019, 07:59:34 PM
Day 39 - 2019-05-04

Number of trades: 51
P/L =  +502 GBP
Bank: 146543 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on May 09, 2019, 01:40:55 AM
Day 40 - 2019-05-05

Number of trades: 91
P/L =  -670 GBP
Bank: 145873 GBP

Code:
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Day 41 - 2019-05-06

Number of trades: 62
P/L =  -661 GBP
Bank: 145212 GBP

Code:
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Day 42 - 2019-05-07

Number of trades: 69
P/L =  -7178 GBP
Bank: 138034 GBP

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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on May 09, 2019, 01:44:32 PM
Day 42 - 2019-05-08

Number of trades: 52
P/L =  -14706 GBP
Bank: 123328 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on May 10, 2019, 10:59:51 PM
Day 43 - 2019-05-09

Number of trades: 52
P/L =  -10336 GBP
Bank: 112992 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on May 12, 2019, 11:42:48 PM
Day 44 - 2019-05-10

Number of trades: 11
P/L =  -1725 GBP
Bank: 111267 GBP

Code:
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Day 45 - 2019-05-11

Number of trades: 31
P/L =  +1006 GBP
Bank: 112273 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on May 13, 2019, 12:38:02 PM
Day 46 - 2019-05-12

Number of trades: 64
P/L =   +3012 GBP
Bank: 115285 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on May 14, 2019, 01:22:35 PM
Day 47 - 2019-05-13

Number of trades: 25
P/L =   +2283 GBP
Bank: 117568 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Negev on May 15, 2019, 01:10:42 PM
Day 48 - 2019-05-14

Number of trades: 57
P/L =   +4870 GBP
Bank: 122438 GBP

Code:
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Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Bossian on December 10, 2019, 12:05:11 PM
Best I did was on Pinnacle, went from 1500 euros to 20 000 euros in a year (2015).
This year I also did 2000 euros to 7500 euros on a betting exchange (a broker to access Betfair odds). I had some big scares so I could have lost it all, but in the end they decided to ban me when I asked for my 5th withdrawal, they were not too happy about it I guess  :)
won't give the name of the broker but they were legit, they did pay the winnings, that's all that matters in the end.

Title: Re: The 100k sports betting experiment
Post by: Bossian on December 10, 2019, 12:12:25 PM
Quote from: Negev on March 27, 2019, 11:26:01 PM
Hi forum.

I would like to start a diary about professional sport trading on this forum.

First of all, my number one reason for starting this diary is mainly personal motivation; imagine talking to a random friend in a small town about full time betting with a 100k. Even I would make a bet that that person would think that at best, that you’re crazy. As those kind of people really make me sick, I created this topic where I can track myself and hopefully get some understanding of what I can do.


Now the important part for dummies:

Please do NOT bet. Ever. You will not make a long term profit on most of the bookies because of their odds. Even if you actually do, they will ban your account. YOU WILL FAIL.

The only way you can beat the bookies long term is if you manage to make a better analysis of the probabilities in Asian markets than the bookie itself. That is the reason most of the bookies will get rid of you if they detect that.

There are a few bookies which will have probably no issues with this: Pinnacle, 3ET, Maxbet, SBO. The reason they let us do that is because these bookmakers try to earn money on large volume and low margins rather than on idiots.

Even if I manage to make profits, you should NEVER do something like this on your own, neither any kind of gambling at all. I do not want and will not make anybody a gambler.

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Remember, I’m not alone in this, I DO NOT HAVE THE 100K, I’m doing this on paper. I will never sell nor send you any picks or subscriptions. Period.



THE PLAN

THEORY

100,000 GBP starting bankroll.

30,000 GBP upkeep of a small team and an office for 6 months.

Total investment: 130,000 GBP.

Sports: Soccer and Tennis.

Stakes: variable


PICKS

Each time I post the summary of the (previous) day, you will see a code in the end of post that looks like gibberish. That code contains the picks, which I will not reveal. Maybe I will show to a mod after the 6 months.


QUESTIONS

Any questions and suggestions are welcome and appreciated.

A few answers right now:
- No, I will never sell you my picks neither allow you to gamble.
- No, you should not bet on these bookmakers.
- Only a scammer would give you picks like these for free.
- I may change the updates from daily to weekly at some point.
- Maybe I am a fraudster making up all the picks and posting fake results.



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Day 1: 2019-03-26

Number of trades: 20

P/L = -3388 GBP
Bank: 96612 GBP


Code:
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I see you stopped the topic, a shame it was interesting.

Something clearly wrong though, it's not possible to bet with a 100k bankroll unless you go for single bets of circa 1k value. But for instance if you place a bet on a relatively small tennis market, and that your stake is 2k, it won't be matched entirely at a fixed odds, you will have to place several bets to get your full 2k matched.

I hope you can come back to this thread to explain the logic. Did you use Pinnacle API for your experiment?
If you used Oddsportal for instance then your data is not very reliable. Oddsportal does not always display the correct odds for each sportsbook and I don't think you can see the volume available on each selection...


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