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Title: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: tk808 on March 28, 2019, 04:34:11 PM
Edit 10/19 - Big thank you to everyone, especially TMAN for helping me to obtain my legendary status. I truly do appreciate it.


Admins of BTT, i'm requesting to become a legendary account. The merit system has failed, unless you're actively farming those merits on the Bitcoin sections specifically targeting the merit "whales," then reaching 500-1k merit is virtually impossible. I'm nearing 1k activity and before the grand shitcoin flood, that was sufficient enough to prove yourself to achieve that status.

I've served my time and assisted the Bitcointalk community immensely for the past 5 years, from my perspective/opinion. I've always stayed true to what these forums represent and the underlining ideologies that Bitcoin and blockchain was founded on.



Edit
: i exclusively post within altcoins and only altcoins. I've done so since the start, there are many reasons for this. There's a lot i've done for crypto since the end of 2013, ofc i'm not picture perfect, nor do i have posts that are significant in a broader perspective. But, I've done a considerable amount of good (again this is my perspective) and things that are lesser known that have ultimately improved the crypto sphere as a whole.


I'm not an avid Bitcoin poster, because it was (and still is) quite easy to understand Bitcoin, progress and etc. I read a lot of materials on these forums, but my value on Bitcoin is overshadowed by many of the older veterans of BTT. It's difficult to explain, but yeah. Take it or leave it, i appreciate the attention this thread received in minutes.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: mk4 on March 28, 2019, 04:41:10 PM
How is attaining 500-1k merit virtually impossible? Others have done it. I myself received 340 merits[1] in a decent timespan(I think) without trying super hard.

This dude, theyoungmillionaire[2], managed to earn 672 merits even though he's still just a Sr. Member and currently only has 308 activity points.

The problem is on you, not on the merit system.


[1] https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=mjglqw
[2] https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=theyoungmillionaire


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: tk808 on March 28, 2019, 04:44:54 PM
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How is attaining 500-1k merit virtually impossible? Others have done it. I myself reached 591 merits from 250 in a decent timespan(I think) without trying super hard. The problem is on you, not on the merit system.

You've also made double the posts, in 1/2 the time. Lets face it, if you're not activity seeking out merit, farming internet points, you are not going to obtain them. The system has come to a halt in many respects. I will not comment further on the failures of the system, as i've done so previously in a different thread a few months back.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: Lafu on March 28, 2019, 04:46:37 PM
Hahah OP thats the best i heared the last days ! LOL   ;D

You have to work for Merits in form of good posts and helping newbies or the Community !

Nothing is for free and you have to do it the same way as others have done or i am doing !

Get out of your BOX and dont be Lazy and try it to get some Merits but not in form like this thread to ask or beg for !



Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: qwk on March 28, 2019, 04:49:33 PM
unless you're actively farming those merits on the Bitcoin sections specifically targeting the merit "whales," then reaching 500-1k merit is virtually impossible.
You got it all backwards.

Unless you actively shun the Bitcoin part of the forum, a poster of your quality (as far as I can tell) is very likely to make a couple hundred merit in no time.
Of course, if you always ever only post in the Altcoin section, you're highly likely to go unnoticed.
And that is just how it's meant to be.

This is Bitcointalk, after all.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eZeYVIWz99I/hqdefault.jpg


I've served my time and assisted the Bitcointalk community immensely for the past 5 years, from my perspective/opinion.
The parts of your post history I can see (I have Altcoin-boards on ignore, and of course foreign boards where I don't speak the language) show you as a quality poster, and I've left some merit.
Unfortunately, there were only a handful posts I could actually review (and I've ignored posts from 2014).


I've always stayed true to what these forums represent and the underlining ideologies that Bitcoin and blockchain was founded on.
That's nice, but it doesn't actually tell us anything about your quality as a poster ;)


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on March 28, 2019, 04:49:50 PM
OP, it's not very likely Theymos is going to make an unprecedented exception for you.

I did take a quick look at your post history, and you must post a lot in sections I have on ignore because I could only see stuff you'd written in Meta.  Are you posting in sections like Bitcoin/Altcoin Discussion?  If so, you're never going to earn any merits no matter how good your posts are, because seconds after you write your masterpiece it's going to get buried under an avalanche of BS spam, which is the norm for those sections.

From what I did see, your posts aren't bad.  They're pretty well thought out, and you did earn some merits for them.  My guess is that your posts just aren't getting read by members with sMerits to spare.  If you tell me which sections you normally post in, I'll temporarily unblock them and take a look at some of your writing, maybe give you some merits if the posts are good enough.

Edit:
With all the boards I have on ignore on my phone, your post history shows 20 posts in 4 years.
I'll get you more stats when I'm at my desk.
That's exactly what's happening when I view his posts.  The only ones I can see are in Meta, and there's no way in hell I'm going to un-ignore any sections without knowing which ones he's posted in beforehand.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: mk4 on March 28, 2019, 04:50:41 PM
You've also made double the posts, in 1/2 the time.
Your point being?

Lets face it, if you're not activity seeking out merit, farming internet points, you are not going to obtain them.
I've been posting here in the past and on the "other" bitcoin forum before the merit system and even before I joined and knew that signature campaigns existed; and that's not going to change. and no, you can even check my post history. I quite rarely post those topics and replies that are a few paragraphs long. You don't necessarily need to "seek out merit" to be eligible to receive them, you just need to be decently knowledgeable regarding bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on March 28, 2019, 04:50:49 PM
Lol what a coincidence, I notice you're more active on the alternative subsection and your post was among the 10 post I selected as a requirement for my merit source application (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125145.0) with focus on the altcoin board as I notice allocation of merit is low there. I already merited the selected post and merit another just now. Don't have much smerits to reward the quality posters on the board that's why I'm applying so I get more smerits. Hopefully I'll be considered.

Anyway, good luck trying to get the attention of theymos and possibly ranking up to your desire rank.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: tk808 on March 28, 2019, 04:52:07 PM
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Hahah OP thats the best i heared the last days ! LOL   Grin

You have to work for Merits in form of good posts and helping newbies or the Community !

Nothing is for free and you have to do it the same way as others have done or i am doing !

Get out of your BOX and dont be Lazy and try it to get some Merits but not in form like this thread to ask or beg for !


It's easy to disprove ignorance once one digs deeper than the surface. Now, you've done some great work don't get me wrong, but the same comment i made above applies to you aswell.



After about 30s of digging into your profile, that's all it took to disprove you:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088731.msg48848003#msg48848003


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: Quickseller on March 28, 2019, 04:54:36 PM
Please see my thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124376.0) giving away merits and make a submission.

You can also post several posts of yours here that you put a lot of effort into over the years and perhaps some merit sources will be willing to give lots of merit for those posts. Each person can give up to 50 merit to you per month.

Theymos has previously said that if someone can show they deserve to rank up that merit sources should give up to the maximum merit to them allowing them to rank up.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: LoyceMobile on March 28, 2019, 04:54:44 PM
With all the boards I have on ignore on my phone, your post history shows 20 posts in 4 years.
I'll get you more stats when I'm at my desk.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: Lafu on March 28, 2019, 04:55:13 PM
After about 30s of digging into your profile, that's all it took to disprove you:

You dont realy get it what i would say or ?

Do something for your Merits you want  !  


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: suchmoon on March 28, 2019, 04:58:57 PM
What do you need the Legendary title for? It doesn't come with any special privileges. And you haven't even reached the upper bound of Legendary activity.

If it bothers you that much - report your posts here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0). Apply to become a merit source (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350). Be part of a solution if you think there is a problem.



Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: Foxpup on March 28, 2019, 05:00:39 PM
As others have said, there are no merits to be had in the Altcoin sections, since nobody serious about this forum (which is called Bitcoin Talk) wastes their time there. Really, the only reason we have those sections is to stop people from polluting the real boards with spam about their latest pet project (which, like most pets, often does little more than piss on the floor and eventually die and get replaced with something else).


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on March 28, 2019, 05:01:12 PM
Do something for your Merits you want  ! 

He's doing just that but getting unnoticed,  as the baords he's active in is on ignore by almost all reputed members and merit sources on the forum. Search through he's post history and you'll see that he deserve some credit might not be as much as ranking him up but he do deserve something.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on March 28, 2019, 05:04:51 PM
OP, the system works, why are you any better than anybody else?

theymos will never change anything based on the demands of one Altcoin Board poster!

https://media0.giphy.com/media/2IsUUBEO7q704/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c9cfe6d4e57326f51e04564


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: Lafu on March 28, 2019, 05:08:54 PM
He's doing just that but getting unnoticed,  as the baords he's active in is on ignore by almost all reputed members and merit sources on the forum. Search through he's post history and you'll see that he deserve some credit might not be as much as ranking him up but he do deserve something.
I know and thats why i have written that earlyer !

Get out of your BOX and dont be Lazy and try it to get some Merits but not in form like this thread to ask or beg for !


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: bones261 on March 28, 2019, 05:09:46 PM
Yes, the altcoin sections do not get a good deal of love. I think theymos should try to appoint one or two altcoin enthusiasts to be merit sources. The only problem is that many altcoin holders are only interested in a handful of coins. So it would be hard to pick someone who would do a good job distributing the merits throughout the altcoin board. Perhaps someone who is involved in mining or an exchange would be a good candidate. I was thinking someone like ocminer, but he hasn't given out a single merit to anybody.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: tk808 on March 28, 2019, 05:09:50 PM
suchmoon
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What do you need the Legendary title for? It doesn't come with any special privileges. And you haven't even reached the upper bound of Legendary activity.

If it bothers you that much - report your posts here. Apply to become a merit source. Be part of a solution if you think there is a problem.


It's the culmination of having a louder voice and being associated with being "trusted." This is explicitly and infinitely more noticeable in altcoins section, again, where i primary post. Hero is great and i do carry significant weight when calling out scams, or bullshit (there's an infinite amount of it in altcoins).

It's also something i always wanted to achieve on Bitcointalk, ever since the earlier days. I just feel like I've earned it, but again that's me who feels it, you don't have to necessarily agree with that. I understand it sounds like i want to be given something for free, but again, i truly feel like i've achieved it, even though it may not be immediately apparent or even noticeable.


I don't want to participate in being a merit source, because i never supported the system. Neither do i want you guys to look through my post and give me credit, please don't waste your time with that, i almost feel bad. I'm not here for merit.



But anyways, thank you all. I will take my leave, before this becomes a post where i'm refuting everyone's input/perspective and everyone is awarding me merit for my previous actions. That was not my intent or something i expected/understood.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: mk4 on March 28, 2019, 05:14:04 PM
*snip*

Your reasoning on why you wanted the legendary rank is very reasonable and understandable; and I'm not going to argue if you really deserve that rank or not. But regardless if you totally deserve that rank or not, we have rules and requirements to follow. And the requirements to have the legendary status, is to have between 775 and 1030 activity points. So we simply have to follow that whether we like it or not.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: bones261 on March 28, 2019, 05:18:25 PM

It's the culmination of having a louder voice and being associated with being "trusted." This is explicitly and infinitely more noticeable in altcoins section, again, where i primary post. Hero is great and i do carry significant weight when calling out scams, or bullshit (there's an infinite amount of it in altcoins).


Perhaps if you bring some of these scams to our attention on the scam accusation board, (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) you will have a little more success getting the attention that you rightly deserve.  ;)

I don't want to participate in being a merit source, because i never supported the system. Neither do i want you guys to look through my post and give me credit, please don't waste your time with that, i almost feel bad. I'm not here for merit.


Don't feel too bad. I've briefly gone over your recent post history, and you should toot your own horn. It's not like you're some newbie who just wants to get that one merit or more so they can sling their paid signature all over the place with nonsense.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: seoincorporation on March 28, 2019, 05:28:51 PM
I understand you point tk808, to grow in the forum is really hard now day, those who already were legend was lucky to start with 1000 merits, and get those last 500 merits to become legend could be really hard, but isn't impossible, i think the merit source is making a great job, the only thing they want is good quality on the posts, isn't hard at all but for that you will need to get out from Altcoins area and start posting in other places where the merits flux is bigger.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: suchmoon on March 28, 2019, 05:28:59 PM
It's the culmination of having a louder voice and being associated with being "trusted." This is explicitly and infinitely more noticeable in altcoins section, again, where i primary post. Hero is great and i do carry significant weight when calling out scams, or bullshit (there's an infinite amount of it in altcoins).

I'd argue that if anyone "trusts" a Legendary more than a Hero entirely because of the title - they're doing it wrong and I wouldn't want such "trust" anyway. But if you want to look at it this way: if there was no merit system in place, we would have so many more Legendaries today that the exclusivity/scarcity of it wouldn't be much different from that of your current Hero rank.

In any case, I don't think you are going to get an exception because you don't like the system.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: LoyceV on March 28, 2019, 05:35:57 PM
First:
my value on Bitcoin is overshadowed by many of the older veterans of BTT
I wrote this 10 days ago:
From what I've seen, "BTT" is only used by clueless bounty spammers. Real users refer to the site as BCT or just Bitcointalk if you're not too lazy to type :P

Stats

unless you're actively farming those merits on the Bitcoin sections specifically targeting the merit "whales,"
You may complain about Merit not being sent on the boards you visit, but you yourself sent most of your Merit in just one single topic. And although this is a year ago, it may not help you become a Merit source.

Full Merit history
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Merit sent by tk808 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=180477) from January 24, 2018 until March 22, 2019 (source (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/180477.html))

http://loyce.club/Merit/history/img/180477_red.gif
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Thu Feb 15 18:42:16 2018: 1 to rdix (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1043348) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1043348.html)) for Re: [ANN] [Airdrop] Nevra (XEV) - Equality, Freedom, Trust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg30315928#msg30315928)
Thu Feb 15 18:42:08 2018: 1 to damecha3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1669483) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1669483.html)) for deleted post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3151449.msg30313194#msg30313194)
Wed Feb 14 22:03:57 2018: 1 to acryptodealer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1532483) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1532483.html)) for Re: [ANN] [Airdrop] Nevra (XEV) - Equality, Freedom, Trust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg30291721#msg30291721)
Wed Feb 14 16:58:36 2018: 1 to tomkat (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=778640) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/778640.html)) for Re: [ANN] [Airdrop] Nevra (XEV) - Equality, Freedom, Trust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg30267852#msg30267852)
Sun Feb 11 22:43:26 2018: 1 to green547 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1188895) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1188895.html)) for Crypto has gone to shit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2928889.msg30079613#msg30079613)
Sun Feb 11 21:13:30 2018: 1 to acryptodealer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1532483) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1532483.html)) for Re: [ANN] [Airdrop] Nevra (XEV) - Equality, Freedom, Trust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg30094026#msg30094026)
Sun Feb 11 18:31:48 2018: 1 to BeasleySavage (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1627711) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1627711.html)) for Re: [ANN] [Airdrop] Nevra (XEV) - Equality, Freedom, Trust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg30084899#msg30084899)
Sun Feb 11 05:36:01 2018: 2 to EtherAndy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1813270) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1813270.html)) for Re: [ANN] [Airdrop] Nevra (XEV) - Equality, Freedom, Trust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg30040395#msg30040395)
Sun Feb  4 01:56:23 2018: 1 to cubi1027 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1479344) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1479344.html)) for WARNING Why Arcblock <ABT> is potentially a scam ::) ::) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2767226.msg28268404#msg28268404)
Sat Feb  3 21:21:41 2018: 1 to muhdatha (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81411) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/81411.html)) for Re: UNICEF announced a project called "Game Chaingers" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2875863.msg29546267#msg29546267)
Sat Feb  3 18:22:57 2018: 1 to Mrs Troll (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=367236) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/367236.html)) for JPMorgan and BofA ban cryptocurrency transactions for their credit cards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2870758.msg29484478#msg29484478)
Thu Feb  1 18:28:23 2018: 3 to askmecrypto (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1171473) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1171473.html)) for INDIAN FUD is FAKE - There was no reason to panic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2863852.msg29398487#msg29398487)
Sat Jan 27 03:38:40 2018: 2 to Gnosis7777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=409124) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/409124.html)) for Banks have 'No Intention' to use Ripple's XRP token (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2829055.msg28998127#msg28998127)
Thu Jan 25 22:18:59 2018: 1 to CryspRayz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1208564) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1208564.html)) for Re: What is the most possible Ethereum competitor? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2724093.msg28925632#msg28925632)

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Merit received by tk808 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=180477) from January 24, 2018 until March 22, 2019 (source (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/180477.html))

http://loyce.club/Merit/history/img/180477_blue.gif
Fri Jan 25 12:43:04 2019: 2 from coin8coin8 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1954639) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1954639.html))for Re: [New to Crypto?] Ask Any Crypto Question, I'll Answer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4930584.msg46077481#msg46077481)
Wed Sep 12 05:58:05 2018: 1 from ETFbitcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=359716) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/359716.html))for Re: [New to Crypto?] Ask Any Crypto Question, I'll Answer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4930584.msg45547736#msg45547736)
Tue Aug 21 22:02:36 2018: 1 from LoyceV (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459836) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/459836.html))for Re: Merit & new rank requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg44476197#msg44476197)
Fri Jul 27 14:22:55 2018: 1 from vapourminer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=33156) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/33156.html))for Re: KYC + all your official papers being stolen and traded (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2759613.msg28205532#msg28205532)
Wed Apr  4 01:53:53 2018: 1 from SerenW (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=864485) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/864485.html))for Re: The co-founders of the Centra ico were just arrested (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3245168.msg33800320#msg33800320)
Sat Mar 24 23:11:36 2018: 1 from u9y42 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=164828) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/164828.html))for Re: KYC of bounty hunters (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2752994.msg28133798#msg28133798)
Fri Mar 23 18:10:00 2018: 2 from DooMAD (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=175361) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/175361.html))for ICO's, Airdrops, Lies, & Corruption (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3154105.msg32607843#msg32607843)
Tue Mar 13 18:28:49 2018: 1 from abakr (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=956398) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/956398.html))for Nevra (XEV) - Project is Terminated (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg30014073#msg30014073)
Fri Mar  9 08:22:10 2018: 1 from abdulmad (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=153591) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/153591.html))for Nevra (XEV) - Project is Terminated (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg30014073#msg30014073)
Thu Mar  8 19:43:03 2018: 1 from FaucetKING (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=939458) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/939458.html))for Re: [ANN] [Airdrop] Nevra (XEV) - Equality, Freedom, Trust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg31864624#msg31864624)
Mon Mar  5 21:24:09 2018: 1 from abdulmad (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=153591) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/153591.html))for Re: [ANN] [Airdrop] Nevra (XEV) - Equality, Freedom, Trust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg31639572#msg31639572)
Mon Mar  5 18:41:18 2018: 1 from FaucetKING (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=939458) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/939458.html))for Re: [ANN] [Airdrop] Nevra (XEV) - Equality, Freedom, Trust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg31639572#msg31639572)
Mon Mar  5 18:28:37 2018: 1 from FaucetKING (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=939458) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/939458.html))for Nevra (XEV) - Project is Terminated (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg30014073#msg30014073)
Thu Mar  1 14:45:16 2018: 1 from taidulvseh78044 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=318427) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/318427.html))for Nevra (XEV) - Project is Terminated (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg30014073#msg30014073)
Wed Feb 28 09:32:03 2018: 1 from BCEmporium (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4983) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/4983.html))for Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2057229.msg31228549#msg31228549)
Fri Feb 23 17:59:11 2018: 1 from JungleOnion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=882182) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/882182.html))for Re: [ANN] [Airdrop] Nevra (XEV) - Equality, Freedom, Trust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg30859130#msg30859130)
Tue Feb 20 15:28:40 2018: 1 from smartcrypto (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=256017) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/256017.html))for Nevra (XEV) - Project is Terminated (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg30014073#msg30014073)
Mon Feb 19 22:11:55 2018: 3 from BlackRock (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=881564) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/881564.html))for Nevra (XEV) - Project is Terminated (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg30014073#msg30014073)
Sun Feb 18 11:18:44 2018: 1 from Koger (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=201896) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/201896.html))for Nevra (XEV) - Project is Terminated (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg30014073#msg30014073)
Fri Feb 16 06:53:39 2018: 1 from acryptodealer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1532483) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1532483.html))for Re: [ANN] [Airdrop] Nevra (XEV) - Equality, Freedom, Trust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917461.msg30374539#msg30374539)
Mon Feb 12 13:22:19 2018: 2 from tiggytomb (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=159023) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/159023.html))for Re: KYC of bounty hunters (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2752994.msg28133798#msg28133798)
Sat Feb 10 00:00:00 2018: 2 from BCEmporium (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4983) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/4983.html))for Re: KYC of bounty hunters (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2752994.msg28133798#msg28133798)
Fri Feb  9 02:44:10 2018: 1 from bbc.reporter (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=537028) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/537028.html))for Alt-Discussion Forum is going Downhill (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2907054.msg29895955#msg29895955)
Fri Feb  9 02:01:10 2018: 1 from The Pharmacist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=487418) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/487418.html))for Alt-Discussion Forum is going Downhill (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2907054.msg29895955#msg29895955)
Thu Feb  1 23:12:01 2018: 1 from scambust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=346201) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/346201.html))for Re: [PRE-ANN] Stone - DAG Data-Structured Private Cryptocurrency (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2581762.msg29399909#msg29399909)
Mon Jan 29 00:11:19 2018: 2 from maeusi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=539826) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/539826.html))for Re: MEW warns that this is a scam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2836824.msg29134617#msg29134617)
Fri Jan 26 11:28:32 2018: 1 from Dannaey (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1098781) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1098781.html))for Re: KYC of bounty hunters (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2752994.msg28133798#msg28133798)
Thu Jan 25 23:16:23 2018: 1 from CryspRayz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1208564) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1208564.html))for Re: Arcblock - Blockchain 3.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818642.msg28921282#msg28921282)
Thu Jan 25 19:24:49 2018: 3 from Norihiro (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094752) (history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1094752.html))for Re: KYC of bounty hunters (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2752994.msg28133798#msg28133798)

As a summary, on these boards:

tk808 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=180477)
     1.      15 Merit earned in Bitcoin Forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php) > Alternate cryptocurrencies (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php#6) > Announcements (Altcoins) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0)
     2.      13 Merit earned in Bitcoin Forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php) > Alternate cryptocurrencies (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php#6) > Altcoin Discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=67.0)
     3.       9 Merit earned in Bitcoin Forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php) > Alternate cryptocurrencies (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php#6) > Marketplace (Altcoins) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=161.0) > Service Discussion (Altcoins) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=198.0)
     4.       1 Merit earned in Bitcoin Forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php) > Other (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php#4) > Meta (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0) (this one came from me (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg44476197#msg44476197))
Total: 38 Merit earned


As a graph (with an inaccurate double line caused by the way I created this):
http://i65.tinypic.com/i4rfom.gif


User tk808 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=180477) (full history (http://loyce.club/Merit/history/180477.html))
  • Received a total of 38 Merit up to last Friday (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3078328.new#new).
  • Received 10 Merit (26.31%) for 2 (0.09%) of 2035 posts created before the introduction of Merit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0) (0.0049 Merit per old post).
  • Received 23 Merit (60.52%) for 11 (5.21%) of 211 posts created after the introduction of Merit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0) (0.1090 Merit per new post).
  • Received 5 Merit (13.15%) for posts that are now deleted.

The above statistic shows you just didn't post that much. 0.1 Merit per post is far above average, but you'll need much more posts like that to rank up to Legendary.



Theymos has previously said that if someone can show they deserve to rank up that merit sources should give up to the maximum merit to them allowing them to rank up.
Correct, and that's why I'm diving into OP's post history :)



I don't want to participate in being a merit source, because i never supported the system. Neither do i want you guys to look through my post and give me credit, please don't waste your time with that, i almost feel bad. I'm not here for merit.
That's too bad, because I think and hope the Merit system is here to stay. In part, your favourite altcoin sections and massive ICO-signature spam were the reasons to introduce it in the first place. You too much appreciate less spam, right?

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But anyways, thank you all. I will take my leave, before this becomes a post where i'm refuting everyone's input/perspective and everyone is awarding me merit for my previous actions. That was not my intent or something i expected/understood.
I believe anyone who isn't a spammer shouldn't be restricted by the Merit system. It's too bad you think this way, as you can see many users are willing to jump at your posts and Merit you if it turns out your posts deserve it but didn't receive Merit yet.



As others have said, there are no merits to be had in the Altcoin sections, since nobody serious about this forum (which is called Bitcoin Talk) wastes their time there. Really, the only reason we have those sections is to stop people from polluting the real boards with spam about their latest pet project (which, like most pets, often does little more than piss on the floor and eventually die and get replaced with something else).
I've given Merit to altcoin posts, and there are some users who earned a lot of Merit there, but the large majority of the posts isn't worth reading.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: nutildah on March 28, 2019, 05:37:54 PM
Do something for your Merits you want  !  

He's doing just that but getting unnoticed,  as the baords he's active in is on ignore by almost all reputed members and merit sources on the forum. Search through he's post history and you'll see that he deserve some credit might not be as much as ranking him up but he do deserve something.

I don't have them on ignore, but yeah, most merit sources consider them to be cesspools of toxic sludge, because they are. Its really hard to wade through hundreds or thousands of bounty shitposts and nonsense to find something worth meriting. Hence, nobody visits them.

I make it a point to spend at least 5 merits a month or so there, but OP has to understand there's a lot of valid reasons why we don't go there.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: The Cryptovator on March 28, 2019, 05:51:05 PM
I don't think its possible anymore to rank up without earn merit. If theymos consider you then many more user will make same request which will be break merit system. You have to earn merit by your contribution. If I can earn 577 merit within a year then why you will not able to earn. You should contribute your best knowledge and experience to forum and forum users. Try your best and hope you will success. Best of luck.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: suchmoon on March 28, 2019, 05:55:03 PM
Some numbers to illustrate my point about the "exclusivity" of the ranks:

There are ~2000 Legendary and ~3300 Hero members (excluding bans). In other words the OP is one of 3300, or one of 5300 if you group Hero and Legendary together.

There could be ~2700 Legendaries today if the merit system hadn't been implemented. The OP could be one of 2700.

There could be ~9000 Hero members today if the merit system hadn't been implemented. Technically the OP could still be a Hero due to the lack of activity, one of 9000.

And we're still banning more Legendary/Hero members than gaining, so in a year or so the "current" Legendary+Hero group is going to be about as "exclusive" as the "old" Legendary-only.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: tk808 on March 28, 2019, 05:55:17 PM
There's no denying the largest part of Bitcointalk is indeed altcoin discussions, ANNs and the increasingly defunct tokens section. Spam or not, it is the largest and generates the most traffic.

I'm going to shift my perspective here a bit, merit is dead in altcoins and i truly do understand that now. Altcoins have always been shunned by the vets of Bitcointalk, out of ideology or because of the pure spam. Today, hate against altcoins occurs to a much lesser degree due to the evolution of altcoins tech, and having impact on Bitcoin in a variety of ways and shapes much of the discussion about Bitcoin. The vary fabric of what Bitcoin is, is also shaped by alternative coins and the countless of business/services that resolve around those alts. Pretty basic knowledge, many of you already understand this, others can refute a Bitcoin-only world, but that's not inherent to what Bitcoin actually represents from my perspective.

Thus, Bitcointalk's grasp on altcoins is increasingly diminishing in recent times, this is due to a variety of factors and limited resources (mods) to actively clean up that section. It's always been a shitstorm, but the shitstorm has grown out of control, to the point where some of the more reputable business/coins, some of the true gems, want no affiliation with Bitcointalk anymore. That's all fine, because as you guys and myself know, Bitcointalk is for Bitcoin, but was once (and still is to a much lesser extent) the voice for all altcoins.



Leading into merit. I truly believe that altcoin discussions is on-par with bitcoin discussions in terms of quality. It has significantly grown and matured in the last year, I don't necessarily know how Theymos and some of you older dudes view altcoins these days, so i can't really comment on what the best interest or how you want to dictate these forums.

But, if you do want to assist altcoins and are looking for merit source candidates, then i would not hesitate to take that position (or apply for it), because i could proactively assist that community on a more fundamental level, helping to shape discussions and continue to what i love to do. My comments about merit are due to the frustrations with the system, and i agree with the scarcity of ranked accounts (making it more prestigious and limited), reducing scams and all that. Don't get me wrong, merit has significantly impacted alt-sections in both a good and bad way. But, for all intensive purposes, it has failed alts more than it helped; especially the noobs of altcoins, who i was once like, getting them to use bitcointalk. I'm on these forums daily, reading every new ANN/token announcement, and going through discussions.


Feel free to follow up with me here, or pm on how i would go about applying to become a merit source for altcoins. I tried searching for it, but unable to find something.


For the record, i only look at 4 primary forums: Altcoin discussions, Altcoin ANNs, Tokens (altcoins) and occasionally services/marketplace.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: LoyceV on March 28, 2019, 05:57:48 PM
To quote myself:
If I interpret this post from theymos slightly out of context:
~ if they have decent posts, by all means, give them the 250 or 500 merit that they need to rank-up.
You're not a spammer, you engage in decent conversation, and you use the forum as a forum instead of an ATM. I think you deserve the Merit needed to rank up.

I'm posting this here as a reference in case someone wonders/questions why I went on a meriting spree :)
Note: sending Merit doesn't necessarily mean I agree with a post.
However, it doesn't feel right to dump the maximum amount of Merit on one user/post. I've never sent more than 20 at once, and I don't have time to go over all your posts. I've merited some of your posts, please stick around, you'll get there eventually!



Feel free to follow up with me here, or pm on how i would go about applying to become a merit source for altcoins. I tried searching for it, but unable to find something.
See:
If you want to be a merit source:

 1. Be a somewhat established member.
 2. Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months by other people that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread. The point of this is to demonstrate your ability to give out merit usefully.
 3. We will take a look at your history and maybe make you a source.

I am especially eager to have merit sources in sub-communities such as the local sections.

But remember, less than an hour ago you said this:
I don't want to participate in being a merit source


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: suchmoon on March 28, 2019, 05:59:47 PM
Feel free to follow up with me here, or pm on how i would go about applying to become a merit source for altcoins. I tried searching for it, but unable to find something.

See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350

Also browse meta to check existing applications for examples. Be prepared to wait a few months until your application is considered. In the meantime check LoyceV's thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: fudster on March 28, 2019, 06:03:07 PM

If you are not into bounty hunting, Legendary status won't matter to you.  But of course you can be proud about it.  You may have to wait til you have more than 1k activity, its not up to theymos but the system will likely be promoting you soon.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: tk808 on March 28, 2019, 06:06:12 PM
Easy enough to apply, thank you. I will probably do the application.


But, i ultimately do hold the topic of this thread as the reasoning I'm here today.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: Theb on March 28, 2019, 06:16:34 PM
The problem is on you, not on the merit system.
I'm not with tk808 on this one but taking a quick look at his post history (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=180477;sa=showPosts) you will see that he ain't no shitposter and majority of his post are composed intelligently based on the topic he is replying or posting. The problem I see here is his posts are not getting the same attention as it is buried by a lot of shitposts in between so it gets unnoticed by other members, if he posted this good let say in the meta section (which he did now) he will probably receive a lot of merits which is happening right now. Sadly I don't think theymos can grant some kind of exception for you and the best thing he can do is to add more merit sources who are active in the Altcoin ANN discusion.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: DdmrDdmr on March 28, 2019, 06:19:41 PM
Moving from Hero to Legendary requiring merits so far has only been achieved by 10 forum members so far:

Code:
user_id   name                     posts     activity  merit     startedWith   MainEarnedMeritBoard                              %         url
867786    HCP                      5762      910       1277      501           Bitcoin Development  & Technical Discussion       49,48%    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=867786
99837     HeRetiK                  2613      1050      1025      500           Bitcoin Development  & Technical Discussion       72,19%    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99837
881377    Hhampuz                  7126      980       1235      500           Economy Marketplace                               64,76%    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=881377
397737    hilariousetc             3071      1162      1908      502           Meta                                              85,85%    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=397737
698159    Jet Cash                 6192      1190      1614      500           Meta                                              54,67%    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698159
479624    Last of the V8s          5853      1078      1957      502           Economy Economics                                 92,65%    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=479624
507856    LeGaulois                4581      1008      1032      500           Economy Marketplace                               29,70%    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=507856
787736    marlboroza               5701      1134      1210      500           Economy Trading & Discussion                      49,01%    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=787736
98986     TMAN                     4873      1092      1367      500           Meta                                              79,24%    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=98986
557798    TryNinja                 4701      952       1097      500           Meta                                              25,13%    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=557798

Altcoins is not amongst the common main merit board of those that have achieved it, basically because they are seldom visited by merit sources I figure.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: Quickseller on March 28, 2019, 06:35:46 PM
Moving from Hero to Legendary requiring merits so far has only been achieved by 10 forum members so far:


This is probably a fairly good argument to say that merit requirements are too high for higher ranking accounts.

I think merit requirements to become a junior member and member is probably too low.

Right now you need 10x the merit to go from junior member to member but you only need a nominal amount of merit to become a junior. To go from member to full member, you need to 10x your merit again. Going from full to senior you need to 2.5x your merit, then only need to double your merit each time additional ranks can be achieved.

LoyceV indicated above that 0.1 merit per post is above average and for someone to become legendary at that rate they would need 10k posts but only a small handful of people have made that many posts.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: Lafu on March 28, 2019, 06:52:04 PM
I will support you to the way and road to Rank up to an Legendary Member as others have done it to me too !
I know its hard this Days but its possible and guess if you keep up on this you will get it too !


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: DooMAD on March 28, 2019, 06:59:57 PM
I'm surprised this post from about a year ago (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3154105.msg32607843#msg32607843) wasn't more widely recognised as a quality contribution.  Definitely deserves more merit than it got.  But then that's the problem with the Altcoin boards.  Anything even remotely intelligent gets buried under all the barely-coherent "good project" spam for random coins.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: suchmoon on March 28, 2019, 07:06:46 PM
This is probably a fairly good argument to say that merit requirements are too high for higher ranking accounts.

I think merit requirements to become a junior member and member is probably too low.

Right now you need 10x the merit to go from junior member to member but you only need a nominal amount of merit to become a junior. To go from member to full member, you need to 10x your merit again. Going from full to senior you need to 2.5x your merit, then only need to double your merit each time additional ranks can be achieved.

LoyceV indicated above that 0.1 merit per post is above average and for someone to become legendary at that rate they would need 10k posts but only a small handful of people have made that many posts.

It's better to add more merit sources if the merit circulation is not sufficient. Easier and less disruptive to do that than change the requirements.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: LoyceV on March 28, 2019, 07:11:34 PM
But then that's the problem with the Altcoin boards.  Anything even remotely intelligent gets buried under all the barely-coherent "good project" spam for random coins.
Ideally, Merit should make those posts stand out. That topic was viewed 61 times in a year, and you're the only one who really earned Merit who replied there. There's definitely some truth in it that Merit isn't perfect.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: theyoungmillionaire on March 28, 2019, 07:15:28 PM
Hi, tk808,

I can see you're not a shitposter. I know you can do it. I seldom post (as you can see on my posts count), still, I did manage to get merits double the number of my posts.

How I wish I can give you some of my merits, but, I'm doing bias stuff right now on my earned merits. I am sending my merits posted only on my local board, I want my local board to have enough merit circulation.

As you can see on the below image, only 20 merits were given for the month of March 2019 (still counting)
This may help to give some additional context to the merits being awarded on the Philippine local board:

A-   Merits awarded per month (March 2019 partial):
https://i.imgur.com/S7HlFnJ.png

To be honest, my thinking of our local board is full of shits before. However, as time goes by, I can see that it has now some quality posters giving some light on that board, also, I can see that some of our Filipino non-local posters are now posting on that board. Sometimes I am surprised that a certain user is a Filipino and starting to post there. I know we have a long way to go there and I don't have enough merits to give, but I hope, even in my own little way of contributing and what I have started can come a long way. And you tk808 has a chance to proved to yourself that I can do it. A nobody Filipino did make a change, you can too.

See you around.

Good Luck, tk808!

theyoungmillionaire


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: akamit on March 28, 2019, 07:27:57 PM
I believe anyone who isn't a spammer shouldn't be restricted by the Merit system.

A few days ago Loyce wrote the same thing in another thread and I had completely written a reply but I felt uneasy to post at that time.
Later, I thought to create a thread with the topic for myself as like tk808 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=180477) posted this, but my uneasiness regarding the issue prevented me to create the thread as well.

I just want to ask the community only one question "why I should not rank to Legendary while I'm not a spammer"?
The Merit thing is really not working for me unless I make a post in meta (maximum merit I earned by posting in meta).

I'm not desperate for my rank up, I'm happy with my current rank. I am more interested to rank up with my efforts and qualifiedness.
I may be desperate for rank ups if I were senior or full member.

Once I thought to apply for Merit Source but my time prevented me.
I always take my jobs very seriously, no excuse for failing to do so unless there is a valid reason.
This is the reason I haven't applied, and of course, there was no guarantee that I could be selected as Merit Source.

However, the "Legendary" title is what everyone seeks and I'm not different here. My current activity is 910 and I may be a Legendary already.

Any suggestion shall be highly appreciated.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: philipma1957 on March 28, 2019, 07:51:39 PM
Admins of BTT, i'm requesting to become a legendary account. The merit system has failed, unless you're actively farming those merits on the Bitcoin sections specifically targeting the merit "whales," then reaching 500-1k merit is virtually impossible. I'm nearing 1k activity and before the grand shitcoin flood, that was sufficient enough to prove yourself to achieve that status.

I've served my time and assisted the Bitcointalk community immensely for the past 5 years, from my perspective/opinion. I've always stayed true to what these forums represent and the underlining ideologies that Bitcoin and blockchain was founded on.



Edit
: i exclusively post within altcoins and only altcoins. I've done so since the start, there are many reasons for this. There's a lot i've done for crypto since the end of 2013, ofc i'm not picture perfect, nor do i have posts that are significant in a broader perspective. But, I've done a considerable amount of good (again this is my perspective) and things that are lesser known that have ultimately improved the crypto sphere as a whole.


I'm not an avid Bitcoin poster, because it was (and still is) quite easy to understand Bitcoin, progress and etc. I read a lot of materials on these forums, but my value on Bitcoin is overshadowed by many of the older veterans of BTT. It's difficult to explain, but yeah. Take it or leave it, i appreciate the attention this thread received in minutes.

I have read your post in altcoins since I am not a BTC elitist as my signature shows.

I gave you 2 merits for this thread and 3 for your other thread.

I will effort to read more of you.

To those that ignore altcoins and openly admit that you do that you should realize the system needs more then just BTC and sha-256

I do multiple coins but mostly focus on LTC  + BTC


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: posi on March 28, 2019, 08:33:46 PM
Admins of BTT, i'm requesting to become a legendary account. The merit system has failed
You might contributed to the forum positively but I can assure you that the forum merit system actually don't fail because you're yet to have the minimum require merit  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2834773.0)(1000) to become a legendary account holder and I believe you ought to have know that without me telling you.






Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: crwth on March 29, 2019, 02:13:05 AM
How I wish I can give you some of my merits, but, I'm doing bias stuff right now on my earned merits. I am sending my merits posted only on my local board, I want my local board to have enough merit circulation.
You are already doing a lot for the local board. As you know that you are the fastest one that could go to Hero Member, the activity should just catch up. That makes you a "Hero" of the Philippine Local board.

To be honest, my thinking of our local board is full of shits before. However, as time goes by, I can see that it has now some quality posters giving some light on that board, also, I can see that some of our Filipino non-local posters are now posting on that board. Sometimes I am surprised that a certain user is a Filipino and starting to post there. I know we have a long way to go there and I don't have enough merits to give, but I hope, even in my own little way of contributing and what I have started can come a long way. And you tk808 has a chance to proved to yourself that I can do it. A nobody Filipino did make a change, you can too.
In the long run, there would be more members who would be actively participating there. I think some members are good quality posters but not participating in Local thinking that "it's full of shit" like you said but when you start something, and an individual can make great things. Maybe there would be other opportunities that would come to our local board to more growth.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: stompix on March 29, 2019, 09:39:16 AM
It's the culmination of having a louder voice and being associated with being "trusted." This is explicitly and infinitely more noticeable in altcoins section, again, where i primary post. Hero is great and i do carry significant weight when calling out scams, or bullshit (there's an infinite amount of it in altcoins).

Nope, some green trust is way more effective than the "legendary" status.

It's also something i always wanted to achieve on Bitcointalk, ever since the earlier days. I just feel like I've earned it, but again that's me who feels it, you don't have to necessarily agree with that. I understand it sounds like i want to be given something for free, but again, i truly feel like i've achieved it, even though it may not be immediately apparent or even noticeable.
&
I'm not desperate for my rank up, I'm happy with my current rank. I am more interested to rank up with my efforts and qualifiedness.
I may be desperate for rank ups if I were senior or full member.


Do you realize the difference between trying to achieve something and playing an idle game where waiting for x time periods will grant you a higher level?

Yeah, it's pretty painful for some to see a Legendary with 2 earned merit over 20k posts and a Hero with 100 times more still being a Hero but maybe times will change and finally, Theymos will introduce merit decay for the airdropped merit.

Till then, wait and don't give up.
Ps. <<<<<<
Quote
Activity:   1022
Position:   Hero Member



Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: nutildah on March 29, 2019, 10:33:34 AM
Yeah, it's pretty painful for some to see a Legendary with 2 earned merit over 20k posts and a Hero with 100 times more still being a Hero but maybe times will change and finally, Theymos will introduce merit decay for the airdropped merit.

Till then, wait and don't give up.
Ps. <<<<<<
Quote
Activity:   1022
Position:   Hero Member

Ranking up has always been activity dependent, no reason to do away with that now. A user can lose their rank if a lot of their comments, and therefore activity, is deleted.

Here's a famous example:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=126291

1000 merits and 13 activity, lol.

You're probably one of the unlucky ones who got screwed by not becoming a Legendary before the Merit system began, but you're almost there!


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: jackg on March 29, 2019, 11:31:35 AM
I've learnt that the ones who get the most merit are the ones who give out the mist (weighted towards merit sources, hmmm) and the ones posting in meta mostly. The bitcoin and tech support boards do badly. Altcoin does badly but there's a lot of spam to wade through when you go there and if you make a new topic you probably won't get a good response or any response from someone who read the op until page 4 😂.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: stompix on March 29, 2019, 11:34:54 AM
Ranking up has always been activity dependent, no reason to do away with that now. A user can lose their rank if a lot of their comments, and therefore activity, is deleted.

Here's a famous example:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=126291

1000 merits and 13 activity, lol.

That guy probably tried to hide his activity by deleting them by himself, he has also edited his posts. A scammer or ICO promoter? What is interesting is his wall:

https://i.imgur.com/GuwbGnP.png
 ;D

Also, I'm not interested in being a Legendary, it means about zero for me.
I don't trade an I don't plan to do it in the future, and I don't think my words would have more weight or my opinion would count more if I rank up. And if I'm wrong and it does....then the whole forum is f*** up!!!






Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: cryptohunter on March 29, 2019, 11:51:10 AM
I've learnt that the ones who get the most merit are the ones who give out the mist (weighted towards merit sources, hmmm) and the ones posting in meta mostly. The bitcoin and tech support boards do badly. Altcoin does badly but there's a lot of spam to wade through when you go there and if you make a new topic you probably won't get a good response or any response from someone who read the op until page 4 😂.

that red pill starting to kick in slightly?

@stompix

Talking of rank / merit / trust resulting in giving your opinions more weight...


when you get legendary status..will your sig spam rate not increase though? that is surely going to be useful?

What opinions do you have that I can evaluate and give an objective critique. I mean surely even you must realise some subjective gamed metric is likely to be of low value, if not misleading, and that you need to analyse each opinion/post upon its own REAL merit right? .

I'm sure most people that are actually interested in obtaining valuable information will read each post free from any misconceptions based upon these ridiculous and dangerous subjective metrics.

I would say having a sig spamming away for something that is obviously for financial reasons only.. is likely to detract from your pearls of wisdom far as much as anything else you have mentioned.  Just a friendly tip.




Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: hilariousetc on March 29, 2019, 12:03:42 PM
I don't think we should be giving out ranks just because people ask for them. That would kind of defeat the whole purpose of them in the first place. Merit is hard to get but at least it's an achievement when you do. Before the merit system the ranks only meant you've been here x amount of time and it was because of that that people were abusing the system and farming accounts in their thousands. Now ranks actually mean something.

With that being said, I've been pushing for people to be able to purchase the benefits of some of the higher ranks via more donator titles because merit is rather difficult to achieve consistently and in huge amounts and people still sell accounts and it's still big business, but you wouldn't be able to buy the rank title directly, but an equivalent ie Senior Member = Silver Member & Legendary Member = Gold Member etc.

It's the culmination of having a louder voice and being associated with being "trusted." This is explicitly and infinitely more noticeable in altcoins section, again, where i primary post. Hero is great and i do carry significant weight when calling out scams, or bullshit (there's an infinite amount of it in altcoins).

I'd argue that if anyone "trusts" a Legendary more than a Hero entirely because of the title - they're doing it wrong and I wouldn't want such "trust" anyway. But if you want to look at it this way: if there was no merit system in place, we would have so many more Legendaries today that the exclusivity/scarcity of it wouldn't be much different from that of your current Hero rank.

In any case, I don't think you are going to get an exception because you don't like the system.

Exactly. People put too much emphasis on ranks. If I see some random Legendary account pop up that I've never really seen before then I usually have reason to distrust them more than anything (or be suspicious of them at least).

It's the culmination of having a louder voice and being associated with being "trusted." This is explicitly and infinitely more noticeable in altcoins section, again, where i primary post. Hero is great and i do carry significant weight when calling out scams, or bullshit (there's an infinite amount of it in altcoins).

Nope, some green trust is way more effective than the "legendary" status.



I'd say reputation rather than just green trust. Anyone can get green trust if they're smart and do deals with the right people, and that's why reputation is worth more than anything. If your name means something around here then people are more likely to trust you. A familiar face and someone who is active in helping the community builds their reputation over time and that's how it should be.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: jademaxsuy on March 29, 2019, 03:31:43 PM
Just be more patient OP so that you can get what you wanted anyway you have a good rank already so if I were you just stay what you are doing and stop complaining on getting merits or ranking up. This is how the admin wants and that clearly to minimize high rank users because there are man shit posters and it is not good to see high rank shit posting so take it as a challenge that in reaching the legendary rank a user must possess a quality posting skills.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: TMAN on March 29, 2019, 03:58:05 PM
Admins of BTT, i'm requesting to become a legendary account. The merit system has failed, unless you're actively farming those merits on the Bitcoin sections specifically targeting the merit "whales," then reaching 500-1k merit is virtually impossible. I'm nearing 1k activity and before the grand shitcoin flood, that was sufficient enough to prove yourself to achieve that status.

I've served my time and assisted the Bitcointalk community immensely for the past 5 years, from my perspective/opinion. I've always stayed true to what these forums represent and the underlining ideologies that Bitcoin and blockchain was founded on.



Edit
: i exclusively post within altcoins and only altcoins. I've done so since the start, there are many reasons for this. There's a lot i've done for crypto since the end of 2013, ofc i'm not picture perfect, nor do i have posts that are significant in a broader perspective. But, I've done a considerable amount of good (again this is my perspective) and things that are lesser known that have ultimately improved the crypto sphere as a whole.


I'm not an avid Bitcoin poster, because it was (and still is) quite easy to understand Bitcoin, progress and etc. I read a lot of materials on these forums, but my value on Bitcoin is overshadowed by many of the older veterans of BTT. It's difficult to explain, but yeah. Take it or leave it, i appreciate the attention this thread received in minutes.

I gave you 50 I checked your posts and its obvious you are one of the outliers who obviously deserve to rank up as you have been here a long time and aren't a total shitposting fuck.. PM me in a month and ill drop another 50 on you.

unfortunately with any unilateral system there will always be a few people who suffer and unfortunately it is you in this case.

Others will disagree with this I am sure, but I think its the right thing to do in this case.

Please no one else ask me - no begging for merits people..


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: nutildah on March 29, 2019, 04:17:24 PM
Here's a famous example:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=126291

1000 merits and 13 activity, lol.

That guy probably tried to hide his activity by deleting them by himself, he has also edited his posts. A scammer or ICO promoter? What is interesting is his wall:

https://i.imgur.com/GuwbGnP.png

Interestingly, he was a real conspiracy nutter and Alex Jones fanboy. He thought the CIA or FBI would use his comments to arrest him, and that he was already being monitored (not that he was that interesting, just incredibly grouchy all the time), so he deleted his post history, as much as he could. He also had a picture of what appeared to be a small pile of crystal meth shards as his avatar, so, yeah...

I don't trade an I don't plan to do it in the future, and I don't think my words would have more weight or my opinion would count more if I rank up. And if I'm wrong and it does....then the whole forum is f*** up!!!

It does... and it is... yet I still find the system provides some value, some of the time.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: LoyceV on March 29, 2019, 04:32:17 PM
Others will disagree with this I am sure
I'm just leaving this here:
If they complain about amounts, tell them to complain to me. It's best if sources try to exhaust their source allocations, even if it means giving posts higher amounts than is typical. If you have 150 source merit and you only see 3 merit-worthy posts in a month, then I'd rather you over-give each of them 50 merit than let the merit expire. That way there are more people capable of sending merit, and the "merit economy" is less top-down.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: TMAN on March 29, 2019, 04:47:01 PM
Others will disagree with this I am sure
I'm just leaving this here:
If they complain about amounts, tell them to complain to me. It's best if sources try to exhaust their source allocations, even if it means giving posts higher amounts than is typical. If you have 150 source merit and you only see 3 merit-worthy posts in a month, then I'd rather you over-give each of them 50 merit than let the merit expire. That way there are more people capable of sending merit, and the "merit economy" is less top-down.

Thanks man, for once I’m on the same page as the big chief


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: r1s2g3 on March 29, 2019, 05:26:18 PM
There's no denying the largest part of Bitcointalk is indeed altcoin discussions, ANNs and the increasingly defunct tokens section. Spam or not, it is the largest and generates the most traffic.

I'm going to shift my perspective here a bit, merit is dead in altcoins and i truly do understand that now. Altcoins have always been shunned by the vets of Bitcointalk, out of ideology or because of the pure spam. Today, hate against altcoins occurs to a much lesser degree due to the evolution of altcoins tech, and having impact on Bitcoin in a variety of ways and shapes much of the discussion about Bitcoin.


And you forget to mention most important word "SCAM. Most Altcoins are created for scamming only.

Leading into merit. I truly believe that altcoin discussions is on-par with bitcoin discussions in terms of quality. It has significantly grown and matured in the last year, I don't necessarily know how Theymos and some of you older dudes view altcoins these days, so i can't really comment on what the best interest or how you want to dictate these forums.


Theymos is not against altcoin as he is accepting grincoin and planning for XMR as payment option in future. I am quoting one of the theymos old post.


Satoshi created Bitcoin and this forum in order to change the world, not to create a "Cult of BTC". In fact, Satoshi recommended (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1790.msg28917#msg28917) creating Namecoin, the first altcoin. (Though Namecoin ended up being one of the bolt-stuff-onto-cloned-Bitcoin systems that I've never really respected.) I'm not going to start jumping on every alt bandwagon and treating every cryptocurrency as just as good as any other, nor do I believe that grin is currently anywhere close to BTC in terms of overall utility. But grin has true merit, and if you're interested in Bitcoin for the same reasons that Satoshi created it (freedom, privacy, and interesting tech), then grin is worthy of acknowledgement.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: tk808 on March 29, 2019, 07:17:00 PM
TMan
Quote
I gave you 50 I checked your posts and its obvious you are one of the outliers who obviously deserve to rank up as you have been here a long time and aren't a total shitposting fuck.. PM me in a month and ill drop another 50 on you.

unfortunately with any unilateral system there will always be a few people who suffer and unfortunately it is you in this case.

Others will disagree with this I am sure, but I think its the right thing to do in this case.

Please no one else ask me - no begging for merits people..

I appreciate your kind gesture and everyone else's. Since i've been flooded with merit in the last day, i suppose i have no alternative option (nullifying this thread basically) other than merit to rank up.

But, again, thank you dude and everyone else who's been understanding.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: suchmoon on March 29, 2019, 08:03:46 PM
i've been flooded with merit in the last day

#7 in most merits earned per 24h... a couple more days to Legendary ;)

Code:
   ID      User       Most merits in one day
1. 35      theymos    943
2. 520313  Lutpin     528
3. 3       satoshi    324
4. 886352  RichDaniel 283
5. 1108331 explorder  228
6. 98986   TMAN       182
7. 180477  tk808      174


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: Indamuck on March 29, 2019, 08:12:41 PM
There are some good posters in the altcoin sections but they do get lost among the spammers.  A lot of us already know virtually everything about bitcoin so we seek out something new and altcoin sort of fills that role.  Its exciting to be on the ground floor of something hoping it will be successful.  I know this is bitcointalk but the altcoin section still exists for a reason and it is an integral part of this forum.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: seoincorporation on March 29, 2019, 09:31:38 PM
...

I gave you 50 I checked your posts and its obvious you are one of the outliers who obviously deserve to rank up as you have been here a long time and aren't a total shitposting fuck.. PM me in a month and ill drop another 50 on you.

unfortunately with any unilateral system there will always be a few people who suffer and unfortunately it is you in this case.

Others will disagree with this I am sure, but I think its the right thing to do in this case.

Please no one else ask me - no begging for merits people..

Great job from a merit source, i think this is a nice example of how merits should be given because at the end, to reach Legendary status isn't easy at all, we are talking about close to 3 years of activity. I agree now, tk808 should become Legendary asap. And with more people like TMAN this will be possible.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: asche on March 30, 2019, 11:17:49 AM
Admins of BTT, i'm requesting to become a legendary account. The merit system has failed, unless you're actively farming those merits on the Bitcoin sections specifically targeting the merit "whales," then reaching 500-1k merit is virtually impossible. I'm nearing 1k activity and before the grand shitcoin flood, that was sufficient enough to prove yourself to achieve that status.

While you have a point your logic is flawed.

The fact that it used to prove yourself enough to achieve that status in the past is only an argument if you believe that rule was valid in the first place.

Long story short it was and is NOT.

The actual system is way more fair for that matter, and you should consider yourself happy to have been airdropped with 500 merit due to your past activity.

I am not disregarding your work at any moment, and am thankful for what you do for the community in general and for crypto adoption in a general matter.
However this is NOT what merit is about.

Where you are right is that while people keep telling themselves this is bitcointalk and only that, others altcoin projects are also part of the crypto world, and are pushing adoption as well. This forum would not look like it does today if it was only about bitcoin. Seeing this argument again and again really annoys me A LOT.

The altcoin section is present, so since it is it should be treated as any other section, or just be deleted. Going halfway is plain hypocrisy.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: cryptohunter on March 30, 2019, 11:39:42 AM
LOL at noobs and blowing their own broken trumpet

Admins of BTT, i'm requesting to become a legendary account. The merit system has failed, unless you're actively farming those merits on the Bitcoin sections specifically targeting the merit "whales," then reaching 500-1k merit is virtually impossible. I'm nearing 1k activity and before the grand shitcoin flood, that was sufficient enough to prove yourself to achieve that status.

While you have a point your logic is flawed.

The fact that it used to prove yourself enough to achieve that status in the past is only an argument if you believe that rule was valid in the first place.

Long story short it was and is NOT.





The actual system is way more fair for that matter, and you should consider yourself happy to have been airdropped with 500 merit due to your past activity.



You should be grateful tk808 that you got 500 merits for your prior work whilst noobs and other nothing burger fools have loads more for achieving nothing.

Yeah, merit is much more fair, it is cycled amongst a tiny bunch of nothing burger achievers (handful of exceptions) and shit posters on political grounds (if you're their pal and will support the power grab).  Most of whom can provide zero achievements of any real note and ask for their best examples of original thought inspiring posts that could have really made a difference here and you get ........................NOTHING.  Not to mention it serves as a tool with its bonus level up to DT to crush free speech. Garbage.

haha noobs ... good for a laugh anyway. This asche is pure comedy I would love to get into a real debate with it about merit and DT but it is terrified of debate like everyone else in meta.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: mu_enrico on March 30, 2019, 12:31:51 PM
In my opinion, merit is an "okay" system. It is not a perfect system since it (1) highly involves human subjectivity about post quality. In addition to subjectivity, (2) good posters also need to make sure merit source able to find their post (among piles of nonsenses). Knowing this issue, @tk808 should adjust to the second problem, to make sure his posts are easily accessible by merit sources.

As for the DT system, I'm not a fan of it. Both systems are susceptible to politics, but DT is worse than merit. This thread might not be the appropriate place to discuss DT though.

Perhaps @theymos should add more merit source in " Altcoin Discussion" board. However, the altcoin section is just soo bad. I still think that @tk808 should post more in meta or bitcoin discussion if he wants merits.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: nlaara12 on April 03, 2019, 06:55:04 AM
You deserve the legendary rank,it is just a matter of time,you will surely get it.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: 3dOOm on April 03, 2019, 11:26:27 AM
Here you go, you can thank me later.
https://i.imgur.com/Rci94M7.jpg


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: darklus123 on April 03, 2019, 11:46:58 AM
I don't get it why are you desperately wanting to become a legendary member? If you only want to be recognized then I guess the effort you are putting is not enough. I can't also personally do not understand why you are actually wanting to have  that status because right now the only thing I could think of it's benefits is the higher rates to any type of campaigns (is that exactly what are you aiming for?)


Edit: You should not envy those who were wearing that status,  because there were actually a bunch of useless dumbass who are proudly wearing that status just sayin :P


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: jademaxsuy on April 08, 2019, 01:55:34 PM
You are almost there buddy. I am helping you bumping up your thread. It seems that you were being supported from the users in this forum on your likes to rank up.

Since you are qualified also to rank up in legendary with your efforts for the forum then there is no reason for you to stay in that rank except for merit. Now that some of the users acknowldge you to be a good user then you can get that in the right time.

Well, good luck buddy be thankful that you were able to reach that rank.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: daarul50 on April 08, 2019, 10:43:43 PM
You don't need to worry, as time goes on legendary status will be attached to your account. give the best for this forum and always make the thread useful because if the thread you make is beneficial to others, then without being asked, they will not hesitate to give merit for free.

Sometimes some think that this merit system makes it difficult for people to raise their status. For me, this system can actually provide a deterrent effect on sneaky people who use multi accounts to make a profit in several ways.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: tk808 on April 24, 2019, 04:15:39 PM
You don't need to worry, as time goes on legendary status will be attached to your account. give the best for this forum and always make the thread useful because if the thread you make is beneficial to others, then without being asked, they will not hesitate to give merit for free.

Sometimes some think that this merit system makes it difficult for people to raise their status. For me, this system can actually provide a deterrent effect on sneaky people who use multi accounts to make a profit in several ways.

Merit system is broken, i still will reserve that judgement I have. Regardless, i shouldn't even be here asking for legendary if the system even worked properly. I wouldn't have gained hundreds of merit in a couple of days if I didn't even post to Meta.

If that's not a clear enough indication there is a major fault, then I'm not sure what else. Meta is a farming pool of Merit.

There will always be abuses systems no matter what the safeguards are. It's up to the mods and community to correct the situation, not penalize legit users because of not having enough resources to handle the situation.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: LoyceV on April 24, 2019, 05:18:12 PM
Merit system is broken, i still will reserve that judgement I have. Regardless, i shouldn't even be here asking for legendary if the system even worked properly. I wouldn't have gained hundreds of merit in a couple of days if I didn't even post to Meta.

If that's not a clear enough indication there is a major fault, then I'm not sure what else. Meta is a farming pool of Merit.
I'm starting to think Meta is one of the few boards on which the Merit system functions how it should be! Meta isn't the problem, many other boards are. It starts with awareness: since sources have to apply in Meta, they know and visit Meta.

I'll run a small experiment, results follow in a few days experiment failed.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: bitart on April 24, 2019, 08:58:34 PM
Merit system is broken, i still will reserve that judgement I have. Regardless, i shouldn't even be here asking for legendary if the system even worked properly. I wouldn't have gained hundreds of merit in a couple of days if I didn't even post to Meta.
.....
I don't know why you are so upset about not being a legendary, you haven't even reached the maximum limit of the activity to become a legendary (1035 I guess). Others has already passed the 1035 activity and they are still Hero ranked (look at me for example). This is not a problem, this is just a situation...

Take it easy, and go for the merits, and if your method is to come here and shout out your pain in Meta to gather those merits, well that's a possible way to get the merits because there always will be members who will give you some merits because they like to help the others. I hope you send the gained sMerits to some lower ranked members to also help them rank up e.g. from Jr. to member or above...



Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 24, 2019, 09:09:26 PM
Meta is a farming pool of Merit.
I tend to think of it like this: the most important section of bitcointalk (Bitcoin Discussion), where the most merit ought to be handed out, is a spam-filled mess.  It just so happens that some of the best posts get written in Meta, at least from my point of view.  I won't deny that the technical and mining sections have brilliance written in them, but I don't visit them very often.  Some of the oldest and most involved members hang around Meta, and it just worked out that way.

You're not doing anything wrong, nor is the merit system itself messed up.  You're just posting in sections where what you write isn't getting read--especially not by merit sources.  That's unfortunate, but look how many merits you earned here.  People obviously saw that you were one of the members who deserved a lot more merits than he got.  Now you're much closer to achieving Legendary status, and you'll get there.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on April 25, 2019, 03:43:45 AM
Perhaps @theymos should add more merit source in " Altcoin Discussion" board. However, the altcoin section is just soo bad. I still think that @tk808 should post more in meta or bitcoin discussion if he wants merits.

The uncross statement is the solution to the problem. if deserving members contributing to the alternative sections aren't getting enough merit to highlight their quality post and possibly ranking them up, then more sources should be appointed to the board just like local board and maybe theymos himself or secretly appoint other well reputed source to keep a close eye on the newly appointed source and report abuse of the system (if observe). I won't second him leaving his comfort zone to come over to meta to make comments just so he'll be notice. If he does that and success then the forum should get ready for more traffic on meta as I'm sure others are watching this thread closely for the outcome.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: yazher on April 25, 2019, 08:34:59 AM
If I were you, I will make the necessary task to achieve the Legendary Rank, As I can see from your posts history, You are close on what you are expecting to be. Do you know what's the good part about this Merit System? It's being on a challenge on How you gonna rank up with this Difficult Environment. Just like me, I started with 0 merits a year ago but these thing doesn't stop me from ranking, instead, it gives me more motivation to become a Good Constructive Posters. Until today I'm still trying to become one.

“Trust the process. Your time is coming. Just do the work and the results will handle themselves.”
-Tony Gaskins


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: mu_enrico on April 25, 2019, 01:21:06 PM
more sources should be appointed to the board just like local board and maybe theymos himself or secretly appoint other well reputed source to keep a close eye on the newly appointed source
Yea, but merit source in the altcoin board would be like:
https://i.ibb.co/qDngMGD/2zf6ta.jpg

For example, I just took a screenshot there:
https://i.ibb.co/fSvV9WN/altcoin.jpg
It looks unpleasant.

I won't second him leaving his comfort zone to come over to meta to make comments just so he'll be notice.
It's easier for him to leave the altcoin board for a while than to make @theymos do something. However, if admin/mods/seniors want to do some experiment here, then I have nothing to complain :)


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: petahasher on April 25, 2019, 09:27:09 PM
I agree with you, that the merit requirements are set too high, and are blind-guesses by whoever set them (theymos?) theymos of course did his best to guess, but these guesses are far too high, and become unattainable. I should be a full member, but since I am not actively seeking to gain merit, most of my posts are in the marketplace, it will take me years to get there.

It is unfair for previous hero/legendary to be given that status, when it takes members like me several years to reach the merit required for it. The requirements should definitely be much less than what they are, maybe multiple all by 0.25x and it would be fair.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: Steamtyme on April 26, 2019, 03:10:57 AM
~snip~

You are probably right that you will not rank up for a long time. To be honest though for what it appears you came to the forum for, you will be fine. You are going to represent a new kind of member I think, low rank but highly trusted in regards to feedback left. Your a merchant essentially and are conducting good business. It's unfortunate you can't reap the rewards of each rank at the moment, but if you continue to travel outside the marketplace and post you will get there.



Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: tk808 on October 04, 2019, 06:09:41 PM
A quick shout out to Tman, who's been a man of his word. I deeply appreciate him and everyone else who's been spot meriting me on the basis of my posts. I've also been highly active (as a msource) in the alt-discussions, in which i can reciprocate the kind efforts towards me.

Thank you all


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on October 04, 2019, 09:18:14 PM
A quick shout out to Tman, who's been a man of his word. I deeply appreciate him and everyone else who's been spot meriting me on the basis of my posts. I've also been highly active (as a msource) in the alt-discussions, in which i can reciprocate the kind efforts towards me.

Thank you all

You'll get there definitely considering the 50 from Tman and a minimum of 10+ occasionally from me😁 you'll get there. Thanks for supporting the board with merit just as I'm trying my best to merit deserving posts there. Keep up thy good works.


Title: Re: Grant Me Legendary Status
Post by: Bttzed03 on October 30, 2019, 06:25:12 PM
I just noticed your new rank and remembered this topic.

Congratulations on your Legendary rank.
We can now say that there is still a legendary rank that hasn't given up on the Altcoin Discussion board.