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Title: "There is mysterious ‘undocumented technology’ hidden on Intel computer chips"
Post by: TECSHARE on March 29, 2019, 10:36:25 PM
Those of you who have read the "Vault 7 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vault_7)" leaks, this will be old news, but now it has been confirmed by independent analysis. Essentially none of our devices are secure, and this is by design at the hardware level independent of software.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/03/28/mysterious-undocumented-technology-hidden-intel-computer-chips-researchers-say-9044193/



Title: Re: "There is mysterious ‘undocumented technology’ hidden on Intel computer chips"
Post by: af_newbie on March 29, 2019, 11:31:41 PM
You can check if your system is vulnerable:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025619/software.html

INTEL-SA-00086 Detection Tool:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27150?v=t&_ga=2.230735834.435826897.1553902028-399230316.1553902028&elq_cid=5162027



Title: Re: "There is mysterious ‘undocumented technology’ hidden on Intel computer chips"
Post by: TECSHARE on March 29, 2019, 11:35:17 PM
You can check if your system is vulnerable:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025619/software.html

INTEL-SA-00086 Detection Tool:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27150?v=t&_ga=2.230735834.435826897.1553902028-399230316.1553902028&elq_cid=5162027



Considering that Intel are the ones who purposely put it there, I wouldn't put too much stock in their "solutions".


Title: Re: "There is mysterious ‘undocumented technology’ hidden on Intel computer chips"
Post by: af_newbie on March 29, 2019, 11:45:29 PM
You can check if your system is vulnerable:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025619/software.html

INTEL-SA-00086 Detection Tool:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27150?v=t&_ga=2.230735834.435826897.1553902028-399230316.1553902028&elq_cid=5162027



Considering that Intel are the ones who purposely put it there, I wouldn't put too much stock in their "solutions".

More non-Intel solutions to disable the ME engine:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine

If you really worry about it.


Title: Re: "There is mysterious ‘undocumented technology’ hidden on Intel computer chips"
Post by: TECSHARE on March 30, 2019, 12:30:41 AM
You can check if your system is vulnerable:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025619/software.html

INTEL-SA-00086 Detection Tool:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27150?v=t&_ga=2.230735834.435826897.1553902028-399230316.1553902028&elq_cid=5162027



Considering that Intel are the ones who purposely put it there, I wouldn't put too much stock in their "solutions".

More non-Intel solutions to disable the ME engine:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine

If you really worry about it.

Whether I worry about it is irrelevant. What is relevant is that we acknowledge that all of these institutions we patronize are selling us out and systematically preventing privacy and personal security and not pretend it was just a mistake every time. This was a plan, not a mistake, and when it is a plan you can't trust anything they say or do on its face.


Title: Re: "There is mysterious ‘undocumented technology’ hidden on Intel computer chips"
Post by: Artemis3 on April 01, 2019, 11:54:11 AM
Unfortunately this is a side effect of having less competition. Perhaps the time is ripe to into ARM cpus, this is easy for Linux (https://mxlinux.org/) users but Windows users need to wait for their favorite apps to be ported. Of course if you are privacy concerned you wouldn't be running Windows in the first place, especially 10 which is a giant data-mining platform...

There IS an open source hardware cpu (https://www.open-electronics.org/risc-v-the-era-of-open-source-cpu-has-begun/), but adoption seems crawling slow at best. That would be the ultimate best choice.

AMD seems to have another kind of backdoor as well, so don't think you'll be any better with them. But then there is also the Meltdown & Spectre (https://meltdownattack.com/) vulnerabilities...

While they don't truly turn it off, at least the aforementioned mitigations (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Sakaki%27s_EFI_Install_Guide/Disabling_the_Intel_Management_Engine) should reduce a little the risks, provided there are no nasty secondary effects... Unfortunately this is not an easy thing and you might brick your motherboard in the process...