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Title: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on March 31, 2019, 03:54:42 PM
https://i.imgur.com/1FEjh22.jpg

This graphic reflects where the technology we have now come from in our homes, computers, networks, Internet, smartphones, virtual currencies, exchanges, to get here, many people have contributed their knowledge to the technological evolution we have today.
Some of them are very well known in Bitcointalk, thanks to all of them.

I have ordered the appointments chronologically with a link to the corresponding information:

- 1974 Robert E. Kahn / Vint Cerf TCP/IP = Internet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite)

- 1976 Whitfield Diffie / Martin Hellman / New Directions in Cryptography
https://ee.stanford.edu/~hellman/publications/24.pdf (https://ee.stanford.edu/~hellman/publications/24.pdf)

- 1978 RSA Public Key Cryptosystem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA_(cryptosystem) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA_(cryptosystem))

- 1980 Ralph Merkle Protocols Cryptosystems
http://www.merkle.com/papers/Protocols.pdf (http://www.merkle.com/papers/Protocols.pdf)

- 1981 David Chaum Untraceable Electronic Mail, Return Addresses
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Chaum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Chaum)

- 1982 Murray Rothbard The Ethics of Liberty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard)

- 1983 David Chaum Blind Signatures
https://sceweb.sce.uhcl.edu/yang/teaching/csci5234WebSecurityFall2011/Chaum-blind-signatures.PDF (https://sceweb.sce.uhcl.edu/yang/teaching/csci5234WebSecurityFall2011/Chaum-blind-signatures.PDF)

- 1985 Elliptic Curve Cryptography
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic-curve_cryptography (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic-curve_cryptography)

- 1988 Timothy C. May The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto
https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html (https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html)

- 1989 David Chauman DigiCash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DigiCash (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DigiCash)

- 1991 Phil Zimmermann
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Zimmermann (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Zimmermann)

- 1991 Haber / Stornetta How to Time-Stamp a Digital Document
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00196791 (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00196791)

- 1992 / 1993 Eric Hugues A Cyperherpunk's Manifesto
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg49471136#msg49471136 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg49471136#msg49471136)

- 1992 Cypherpunk Founded
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk)

- 1994 CyberCash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberCash (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberCash)

- 1994 Timothy C. May
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/static/docs/cyphernomicon.txt (https://nakamotoinstitute.org/static/docs/cyphernomicon.txt)

- 1996 E-Gold
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-gold (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-gold)

- 1996 NSA How To Make A Mint
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm (http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm)

- 1997 Adam Back HashCash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Back (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Back)

- 1997 Nick Szabo Formalizing and Securing Relationships on Public Networks
https://ojphi.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/548/469 (https://ojphi.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/548/469)

- 1998 Nick Szabo Secure Property Titles with Owner Authority
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/secure-property-titles/ (https://nakamotoinstitute.org/secure-property-titles/)

- 1998 Bit Gold
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo)

- 1998 Wei Dai B-Money
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/B-money (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/B-money)

- 1999 Dot Com Bubble
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble)

- 2001 Bram Cohen BitTorrent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_Cohen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_Cohen)

- 2001 Distributed Hash Tables
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table)

- 2004 Hal Finney / Reusable Proofs of Work
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/finney/rpow/index.html (https://nakamotoinstitute.org/finney/rpow/index.html)
 
- 2008 Satoshi Nakamoto / A Peer to Peer Electronic Cash System
https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf (https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf)

- 2009 Bitcoin Launched Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block)


Source image:
https://twitter.com/bitcoinje/status/1091672330277961728 (https://twitter.com/bitcoinje/status/1091672330277961728)




Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on March 31, 2019, 03:55:00 PM
List of quotes that are not in the chart, but are important for Bitcoin:

- 1991 Schnorr sigs patent
https://blog.bitmex.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/patent.pdf (https://blog.bitmex.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/patent.pdf)

- 1992/1993 Proof-of-work for spam
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.83.7634&rep=rep1&type=pdf (http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.83.7634&rep=rep1&type=pdf)

- 1999 Peer-to-peer (P2P)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer)

- 1999 Byzantine fault tolerance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_fault (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_fault)

- 2000 Hash Trees
https://infoscience.epfl.ch/record/64398/files/idealhashtrees.pdf (https://infoscience.epfl.ch/record/64398/files/idealhashtrees.pdf)

- 2002 SHA-2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-2)

- 2009 Hal Finney / Running Bitcoin
https://twitter.com/halfin/status/1110302988 (https://twitter.com/halfin/status/1110302988)

- 2009 Satoshi Nakamoto / Bitcointalk
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.0)

- 2009/2010 Bitcoin Logo Satoshi / bitboy
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126554.msg51268637#msg51268637 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126554.msg51268637#msg51268637)

- 2010 Hal Finney / Bitcointalk
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054

Other quotes:

- 2009 Bitcointalk / Founder Satoshi Nakamoto Nov- 22 / 2009 > Admin 2011
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3)

- 2010 Bitcointalk / Pizza for bitcoins? 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.0)

- 2011 Bitcointalk Admin sirius 2012
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4)

- 2012 Bitcointalk current Admin theymos
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35)

- 2013 Wall Observer / Bitcointalk / Replies > 467532 April - 2019
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.0

- 2013 I AM HODLING / Bitcointalk
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0

- 2013 Adam Back / Bitcointalk
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178893

- 2013 Nakamoto Institute
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/ (https://nakamotoinstitute.org/)

- 2018 Merit & new rank requirements
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0)

- 2018 WO Hats By xhomerx10 / Bitcointalk
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg46916490#msg46916490

- 2019 10th Anniversary Bitcointalk / Notable Historical Publications / Bitcoin Prehistory
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126554.msg53252600#msg53252600 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126554.msg53252600#msg53252600)

- 2020 theymos is now the owner of the bitcointalk.org domain Apr. 18/2020 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241347.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241347.0)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Last of the V8s on March 31, 2019, 05:00:26 PM
links to the creation of the list https://github.com/Bitcoin-and-Markets/resources/wiki/Bitcoin-History
https://twitter.com/btcmrkts/status/964258271493345282


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on March 31, 2019, 05:18:35 PM
links to the creation of the list https://github.com/Bitcoin-and-Markets/resources/wiki/Bitcoin-History
https://twitter.com/btcmrkts/status/964258271493345282

Well, I would have saved a lot of work looking for the links of each appointment.
If you compare the two listings in which you pass me missing links and luckily are not the same.

I will review them and update them if they have better information.

Thanks for your contribution. 8)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: kryptqnick on March 31, 2019, 07:06:57 PM
Wow, thanks for making such a nice scheme. I heard about some of the authors, but taking a look at what led to Bitcoin from historical perspective is very interesting. I was trying to offer adding something else to the list, but each time I came by something important, I notice that it was already included  :D Well, maybe I'd offer to your consideration the following book from 2001: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_(book). I don't think it said anything that was not said before, but it kind of united all of the different important things together under the word "crypto".


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: dothebeats on April 01, 2019, 03:29:40 AM
I guess Wei Dai's "B-Money" is the first practical embodiment of a decentralized network with PoW algorithm and that is where Satoshi got the inspiration for creating bitcoin. Amazing how Satoshi came up with such a well-thought system from the synthesis of a huge number of papers and articles, which further suggest that he (she, they) might be a well-read individual (organization). I'll have a go at these links again and revisit what i consider as noteworthy ones, such as Wei Dai's B-Money, Hal Finney's paper and Eric Hughes' Cypherpunk Manifesto.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: buwaytress on April 01, 2019, 11:03:37 AM
Nice work. I've seen several of the names credited here, although some would probabluly argue there is an underrepresentation of some figures from the cypherpunk community. That's all semantics.

What's interesting for me as well is estimating if all these prehistoric fathers would agree that Bitcoin is an iteration of their work. Chaum, for example, cited in your chart several times, seems to be travelling and promoting some rather commercial project that seems to bear semblance to his work on elliptic curves. Do they see something displacing Bitcoin in terms of adoption and popularity in their lifetime?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Kakmakr on April 01, 2019, 12:58:32 PM
That one was worth the merit, because it gives a clear picture of what happened prior to Bitcoin, to get it where it is today. Some very smart people laid the foundation for this technology and Satoshi just put everything together in a unique way to make it work. It was there in front of everyone, but Satoshi had the vision and creativity to make it click.  ;D

A lot of people think Bitcoin was something totally new and that Satoshi developed everything from scratch, but that is simply not true. The ingredients was there, Satoshi just put them together and he baked the perfect cake.  ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Beerwizzard on April 01, 2019, 01:10:18 PM
Good job!
But it pretty hard to show BTC prehistory from all sides. In your case you mainly point out only technical points. But if you also want to overview BTC from economical point then you gonna need to take a look at prehistory of money.

The most obvious book:  The History of Money by Jack Weatherford
 


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Bitinity on April 01, 2019, 01:15:45 PM
Thanks for the nice hard work for making the graphic of bitcoin prehistory. It is obviously useful for those who want to learn about the history of bitcoin and anything related to it.
If you do not mind, I would like to ask for your permission to share this great information to my local board in translated mode. Let me know whether you are OK or not with it. Thanks.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on April 01, 2019, 01:50:02 PM
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Perfect, the more people know the story, the better.
Of course, you can post it on your local board.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: reda on April 01, 2019, 04:14:27 PM
Amazing information for the crypto community. This is great information which all need to know in crypto industry and learn at the beginning itself. I suggest to you recommend this information to pin on any where for the people's wellness.

All the best once again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Zadicar on April 01, 2019, 04:59:52 PM
Awesome list of all of the history of cryptography, if all of this is being binded it would make a book.

I wonder if they do have a complete books of it that would be awesome to most Bitcoin enthusiast.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: whirlcoin on April 01, 2019, 06:21:24 PM
Thanks for your chart of the development of the system till now to the Bitcoin because in recent times the people are thinking cryptocurrencies will not have sufficient to make this economy positively but they will it will also had in the hands of cryptocurrencies this is my trust about this field.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: tippytoes on April 01, 2019, 11:42:26 PM
Awesome list of all of the history of cryptography, if all of this is being binded it would make a book.

I wonder if they do have a complete books of it that would be awesome to most Bitcoin enthusiast.

This is a good reference for a student wanting to make a paper or thesis regarding bitcoin. I just hope that person will find this thread. Very few people are lending their time and effort to come up a thread like this.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: mu_enrico on April 02, 2019, 02:09:35 AM
Nice thread OP! Now I'm curious about what will be recorded in history after Satoshi's Whitepaper.
By the way, why you put this thread on Economics board? This should be on Bitcoin Discussion board, right?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on April 02, 2019, 01:38:28 PM
<...>

Tnx.

And must hve to share to the B&H Section.

What is the section B&H?, is it bitcoin History?

<...>

I do not know the answer, but I think that in 10 years, they can have another point of view, markets, speculation, adoption, hardforks, Bitcoin is very young but in 10 years has lived a lot.

But if you also want to overview BTC from economical point then you gonna need to take a look at prehistory of money.
The most obvious book:  The History of Money by Jack Weatherford

Thx, I'm preparing a post showing deflation of the dollar and something else.

I suggest to you recommend this information to pin on any where for the people's wellness.

It is a good proposal.

Awesome list of all of the history of cryptography, if all of this is being binded it would make a book.

 ;) Very good idea, if there is an editor in Bitcointalk, you have a lot of material available here.

This is a good reference for a student wanting to make a paper or thesis regarding bitcoin. I just hope that person will find this thread.

If I totally agree.

By the way, why you put this thread on Economics board? This should be on Bitcoin Discussion board, right?

"Bitcoin is an innovative payment network and a new kind of money." > https://bitcoin.org/en/ (https://bitcoin.org/en/)

I could go in the Bitcoin Discussion, but the thread refers to the creation of a new currency or asset, Bitcoin in this case.




Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: madnessteat on April 03, 2019, 09:23:39 PM
Thanks to this topic I learned a lot of interesting things about cryptography and I also translated your topic into Russian (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5127849.0) and added these two events for you:

- 2002 SHA-2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-2)
- 2009 Satoshi Nakamoto / Bitcointalk
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.0)
Original: https://twitter.com/btcmrkts/status/964258271493345282


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: legendster on April 03, 2019, 11:36:38 PM
Great job with the chart!

I did a little digging of my own a while ago and the closest system that I found in history was UAIF's Distributed Object Technology.

You may add it to your chart somewhere in the 90's scale.

Link to my post here :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3351556.0



Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on April 04, 2019, 10:49:08 AM
Thanks to this topic I learned a lot of interesting things about cryptography and I also translated your topic into Russian (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5127849.0) and added these two events for you:

Good job, I hope you have a lot of success in your local board. ;)

I did a little digging of my own a while ago and the closest system that I found in history was UAIF's Distributed Object Technology.
You may add it to your chart somewhere in the 90's scale.

Ok, I'll read to see what it's about.

Thx.



Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Ranly123 on April 04, 2019, 09:41:25 PM
https://i.imgur.com/1FEjh22.jpg

This graphic reflects where the technology we have now come from in our homes, computers, networks, Internet, smartphones, virtual currencies, exchanges, to get here, many people have contributed their knowledge to the technological evolution we have today.
Some of them are very well known in Bitcointalk, thanks to all of them.

I have ordered the appointments chronologically with a link to the corresponding information:

- 1974 Robert E. Kahn / Vint Cerf TCP/IP = Internet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite)

- 1976 Whitfield Diffie / Martin Hellman / New Directions in Cryptography
https://ee.stanford.edu/~hellman/publications/24.pdf (https://ee.stanford.edu/~hellman/publications/24.pdf)

- 1978 RSA Public Key Cryptosystem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA_(cryptosystem) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA_(cryptosystem))

- 1980 Ralph Merkle Protocols Cryptosystems
http://www.merkle.com/papers/Protocols.pdf (http://www.merkle.com/papers/Protocols.pdf)

- 1981 David Chaum Untraceable Electronic Mail, Return Addresses
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Chaum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Chaum)

- 1982 Murray Rothbard The Ethics of Liberty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard)

- 1983 David Chaum Blind Signatures
https://sceweb.sce.uhcl.edu/yang/teaching/csci5234WebSecurityFall2011/Chaum-blind-signatures.PDF (https://sceweb.sce.uhcl.edu/yang/teaching/csci5234WebSecurityFall2011/Chaum-blind-signatures.PDF)

- 1985 Elliptic Curve Cryptography
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic-curve_cryptography (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic-curve_cryptography)

- 1988 Timothy C. May The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto
https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html (https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html)

- 1989 David Chauman DigiCash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DigiCash (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DigiCash)

- 1991 Phil Zimmermann
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Zimmermann (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Zimmermann)

- 1991 Haber / Stornetta How to Time-Stamp a Digital Document
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00196791 (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00196791)

- 1992 / 1993 Eric Hugues A Cyperherpunk's Manifesto
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg49471136#msg49471136 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg49471136#msg49471136)

- 1992 Cypherpunk Founded
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk)

- 1994 CyberCash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberCash (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberCash)

- 1994 Timothy C. May
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/static/docs/cyphernomicon.txt (https://nakamotoinstitute.org/static/docs/cyphernomicon.txt)

- 1996 E-Gold
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-gold (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-gold)

- 1996 NSA How To Make A Mint
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm (http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm)

- 1997 Adam Back HashCash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Back (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Back)

- 1997 Nick Szabo Formalizing and Securing Relationships on Public Networks
https://ojphi.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/548/469 (https://ojphi.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/548/469)

- 1998 Nick Szabo Secure Property Titles with Owner Authority
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/secure-property-titles/ (https://nakamotoinstitute.org/secure-property-titles/)

- 1998 Bit Gold
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo)

- 1998 Wei Dai B-Money
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/B-money (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/B-money)

- 1999 Dot Com Bubble
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble)

- 2001 Bram Cohen BitTorrent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_Cohen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_Cohen)

- 2001 Distributed Hash Tables
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table)

- 2004 Hal Finney / Reusable Proofs of Work
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/finney/rpow/index.html (https://nakamotoinstitute.org/finney/rpow/index.html)
 
- 2008 Satoshi Nakamoto / A Peer to Peer Electronic Cash System
https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf (https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf)

- 2009 Bitcoin Launched Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block)


Source image:
https://twitter.com/bitcoinje/status/1091672330277961728 (https://twitter.com/bitcoinje/status/1091672330277961728)




Wow, even in the year 1973, cryptosphere already exist where in fact it is not yet the time for digital era. Maybe those people who foreseen the revolution of digital assets are geniuses.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on April 05, 2019, 06:38:05 PM
https://i.imgur.com/7k8F4W1.jpg


1913 / 2019 - This is what happens with a traditional monetary system.

https://twitter.com/Goldbroker_com/status/1094717801166704643 (https://twitter.com/Goldbroker_com/status/1094717801166704643)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on April 08, 2019, 03:25:19 PM
https://i.imgur.com/y4UhHWH.png

https://twitter.com/IIF/status/1113093833712168960 (https://twitter.com/IIF/status/1113093833712168960)

All this amount of printed fiduciary money will never be returned, the debt is the inheritance that we will leave to our children, grandchildren and the next generations.

Decentralization welcome, thx, BTC


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on April 12, 2019, 10:34:28 AM
https://i.imgur.com/GtgNfhK.jpg
https://twitter.com/wesleybillett/status/1095039892650934273 (https://twitter.com/wesleybillett/status/1095039892650934273)

Gold and Bitcoin

Quite significant, the two graphs have followed a similar pattern.
Maybe we make the same figure upwards.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: jjjfff on April 12, 2019, 01:10:17 PM
https://i.imgur.com/y4UhHWH.png

https://twitter.com/IIF/status/1113093833712168960 (https://twitter.com/IIF/status/1113093833712168960)

All this amount of printed fiduciary money will never be returned, the debt is the inheritance that we will leave to our children, grandchildren and the next generations.

Decentralization welcome, thx, BTC


That is exactly right. And just this week ECB has announced they will keep printing more debt.

Not only is this debt left for future generations, it is also never going to get paid. So if you print debt and it just keeps getting rolled over forever, you've essentially just printed free money for banks.

Did you get free money? Did your lemonade stand? No. But banks did.

We're getting hoodwinked systematically.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: akeegan on April 16, 2019, 09:27:41 PM
This graph and breakdown is incredible. thank you for sharing. it's rad to see how we built up to bitcoin. What are your thoughts on david chaum's latest project elixxir?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on April 17, 2019, 02:16:40 PM
^
I do not know, we have to wait to get more information, personally I am not against any new project, as long as it does not attack Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Last of the V8s on April 17, 2019, 06:01:28 PM
This graph and breakdown is incredible. thank you for sharing. it's rad to see how we built up to bitcoin. What are your thoughts on david chaum's latest project elixxir?
https://i.imgur.com/NnCxrnb.png
https://twitter.com/brian_trollz/status/1101532292047093760

A lot of early people ended up shitting the bed. Beware.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: usorin on April 17, 2019, 06:51:37 PM
This is why crypto technology keeps on walking, thanks to people like you who really understands all this madness. Congratulation for the hard work regarding the chart.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on April 17, 2019, 08:47:47 PM
What are your thoughts on david chaum's latest project elixxir?

They have already given you an opinion about what you were asking.
I looked for more information and when I saw Chris Larsen (xrp), who is very close to the project, I did not waste any more time searching.

This is why crypto technology keeps on walking, thanks to people like you who really understands all this madness. Congratulation for the hard work regarding the chart.

Yes, and also to people like you who are still interested in this type of information and participate in the thread.

Thx.





Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Natalim on April 18, 2019, 04:53:12 AM
Thank you for sharing, I appreciate your thread and the effort you gave to summarize the important information that every crypto enthusiast should know.

Edit*** was suppose to send merit but found out I was out of it already.   


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Reid on April 18, 2019, 05:18:30 AM
Well I guess there are still thread starters that are worth reading.
Thanks for the links. Now, I dont have to google it one by one and just click here.

Now that bitcoin have been fruitful, I do think this history willl be needed if ever a study will be created or a subject in history of crypto currencies.
Yes, they will need this to understand everything. I mean those who will be professor of crypto.

Thank you again.
Merits for the efforts.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on April 19, 2019, 06:36:43 AM
Thx for the last comments.


https://i.imgur.com/45Wn5BR.jpg
https://twitter.com/chartingbitcoin/status/1087528609517109250 (https://twitter.com/chartingbitcoin/status/1087528609517109250)

2018 Bitcoin transaction volume beats out PayPal

https://cryptoinsider.com/bitcoin-transaction-beats-paypal/ (https://cryptoinsider.com/bitcoin-transaction-beats-paypal/)

2019 Transactions Research: How Bitcoin found its niche in competition with Visa, Master Card and Paypal

https://datalight.me/blog/researches/longread/bitcoin-becomes-the-main-method-of-international-payment/ (https://datalight.me/blog/researches/longread/bitcoin-becomes-the-main-method-of-international-payment/)

If we already know that TPS is low compared to other means of payment, but we must bear in mind that Bitcoin is a baby, compared to these companies, see the years in which they were created with respect to Bitcoin.

https://i.imgur.com/xKedy9C.png

We have a long way to go, but we will reach them and we will surpass them. ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: jademaxsuy on April 19, 2019, 07:37:32 AM
This post is taking too long to do it. For sure OP made some time to do this post. Anyway, technology always develop over a period of time like to what we have now. We are entering more complicated digital era where almost platform are using AI to interact with users. This is the best so.far but who knows that this kind of intelligent will be integrated in every system especially if it will found out that AI is more time saving and more comfortable for the users to use.

BITCOIN is one of the best technology also so far and being implemented right now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: el kaka22 on April 19, 2019, 09:27:05 PM
People joked about video games currency for years but they have never given them credit for the prebitcoin history before so seeing that here is something amazing. I for one sold one of my game characters and a lot of game money for bitcoin for example, that was the transition process for me, I moved from game currencies and so forth to actually using digital currency and I knew at that moment this has to be the thing I do from now on.

I played games all my life and made a lot of money from them when I was a kid so it was certainly a way for people to make money and spend money as well but it was not seen as a currency and not taken seriously, with the invention of bitcoin those in game currencies actually had a reason to be relative to the topic but never really mentioned until this post.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on April 20, 2019, 06:40:43 AM
People joked about video games currency for years but they have never given them credit for the prebitcoin history before so seeing that here is something amazing. I for one sold one of my game characters and a lot of game money for bitcoin for example, that was the transition process for me, I moved from game currencies and so forth to actually using digital currency and I knew at that moment this has to be the thing I do from now on.

I played games all my life and made a lot of money from them when I was a kid so it was certainly a way for people to make money and spend money as well but it was not seen as a currency and not taken seriously, with the invention of bitcoin those in game currencies actually had a reason to be relative to the topic but never really mentioned until this post.

^

This Vikipedia Virtual Economy link is a good description of what you are saying?
If so, I would include it in the list.

(2001 Video Game currencies and markets, (era started in 2001))

Thx.

Quote
In 2001, EverQuest players Brock Pierce and Alan Debonneville founded Internet Gaming Entertainment Ltd (IGE), a company that offered not only the virtual commodities in exchange for real money but also provided professional customer service. IGE had a trained staff that would handle financial issues, customer inquiries and technical support to ensure that gamers are satisfied with each real money purchase. It also took advantage of the global reach of synthetic worlds by setting up a shop in Hong Kong where a small army of technically savvy but low wage workers could field orders, load up avatars, retrieve store goods and deliver them wherever necessary.[3][4] This lucrative market has opened a whole new type of economy where the border between the real and the virtual is obscure.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_economy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_economy)



Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Hardtolife on April 20, 2019, 12:03:20 PM
https://i.imgur.com/1FEjh22.jpg

This graphic reflects where the technology we have now come from in our homes, computers, networks, Internet, smartphones, virtual currencies, exchanges, to get here, many people have contributed their knowledge to the technological evolution we have today.
Some of them are very well known in Bitcointalk, thanks to all of them.

I have ordered the appointments chronologically with a link to the corresponding information:

- 1974 Robert E. Kahn / Vint Cerf TCP/IP = Internet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite)

- 1976 Whitfield Diffie / Martin Hellman / New Directions in Cryptography
https://ee.stanford.edu/~hellman/publications/24.pdf (https://ee.stanford.edu/~hellman/publications/24.pdf)

- 1978 RSA Public Key Cryptosystem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA_(cryptosystem) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA_(cryptosystem))

- 1980 Ralph Merkle Protocols Cryptosystems
http://www.merkle.com/papers/Protocols.pdf (http://www.merkle.com/papers/Protocols.pdf)

- 1981 David Chaum Untraceable Electronic Mail, Return Addresses
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Chaum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Chaum)

- 1982 Murray Rothbard The Ethics of Liberty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard)

- 1983 David Chaum Blind Signatures
https://sceweb.sce.uhcl.edu/yang/teaching/csci5234WebSecurityFall2011/Chaum-blind-signatures.PDF (https://sceweb.sce.uhcl.edu/yang/teaching/csci5234WebSecurityFall2011/Chaum-blind-signatures.PDF)

- 1985 Elliptic Curve Cryptography
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic-curve_cryptography (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic-curve_cryptography)

- 1988 Timothy C. May The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto
https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html (https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html)

- 1989 David Chauman DigiCash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DigiCash (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DigiCash)

- 1991 Phil Zimmermann
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Zimmermann (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Zimmermann)

- 1991 Haber / Stornetta How to Time-Stamp a Digital Document
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00196791 (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00196791)

- 1992 / 1993 Eric Hugues A Cyperherpunk's Manifesto
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg49471136#msg49471136 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg49471136#msg49471136)

- 1992 Cypherpunk Founded
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk)

- 1994 CyberCash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberCash (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberCash)

- 1994 Timothy C. May
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/static/docs/cyphernomicon.txt (https://nakamotoinstitute.org/static/docs/cyphernomicon.txt)

- 1996 E-Gold
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-gold (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-gold)

- 1996 NSA How To Make A Mint
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm (http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm)

- 1997 Adam Back HashCash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Back (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Back)

- 1997 Nick Szabo Formalizing and Securing Relationships on Public Networks
https://ojphi.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/548/469 (https://ojphi.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/548/469)

- 1998 Nick Szabo Secure Property Titles with Owner Authority
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/secure-property-titles/ (https://nakamotoinstitute.org/secure-property-titles/)

- 1998 Bit Gold
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo)

- 1998 Wei Dai B-Money
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/B-money (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/B-money)

- 1999 Dot Com Bubble
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble)

- 2001 Bram Cohen BitTorrent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_Cohen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_Cohen)

- 2001 Distributed Hash Tables
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table)

- 2004 Hal Finney / Reusable Proofs of Work
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/finney/rpow/index.html (https://nakamotoinstitute.org/finney/rpow/index.html)
 
- 2008 Satoshi Nakamoto / A Peer to Peer Electronic Cash System
https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf (https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf)

- 2009 Bitcoin Launched Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block)


Source image:
https://twitter.com/bitcoinje/status/1091672330277961728 (https://twitter.com/bitcoinje/status/1091672330277961728)



In my opinion, this is a very good topic because so many people know the history of bitcoin which is not known before and must be very necessary when asked what the history of bitcoin is. And in my opinion it was added from another perspective and given how much the unit costs each year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: playboy654 on April 20, 2019, 07:32:15 PM
https://i.imgur.com/1FEjh22.jpg

This graphic reflects where the technology we have now come from in our homes, computers, networks, Internet, smartphones, virtual currencies, exchanges, to get here, many people have contributed their knowledge to the technological evolution we have today.
Some of them are very well known in Bitcointalk, thanks to all of them.

I have ordered the appointments chronologically with a link to the corresponding information:

- 1974 Robert E. Kahn / Vint Cerf TCP/IP = Internet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite)

- 1976 Whitfield Diffie / Martin Hellman / New Directions in Cryptography
https://ee.stanford.edu/~hellman/publications/24.pdf (https://ee.stanford.edu/~hellman/publications/24.pdf)

- 1978 RSA Public Key Cryptosystem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA_(cryptosystem) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA_(cryptosystem))

- 1980 Ralph Merkle Protocols Cryptosystems
http://www.merkle.com/papers/Protocols.pdf (http://www.merkle.com/papers/Protocols.pdf)

- 1981 David Chaum Untraceable Electronic Mail, Return Addresses
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Chaum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Chaum)

- 1982 Murray Rothbard The Ethics of Liberty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard)

- 1983 David Chaum Blind Signatures
https://sceweb.sce.uhcl.edu/yang/teaching/csci5234WebSecurityFall2011/Chaum-blind-signatures.PDF (https://sceweb.sce.uhcl.edu/yang/teaching/csci5234WebSecurityFall2011/Chaum-blind-signatures.PDF)

- 1985 Elliptic Curve Cryptography
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic-curve_cryptography (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic-curve_cryptography)

- 1988 Timothy C. May The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto
https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html (https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html)

- 1989 David Chauman DigiCash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DigiCash (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DigiCash)

- 1991 Phil Zimmermann
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Zimmermann (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Zimmermann)

- 1991 Haber / Stornetta How to Time-Stamp a Digital Document
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00196791 (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00196791)

- 1992 / 1993 Eric Hugues A Cyperherpunk's Manifesto
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg49471136#msg49471136 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg49471136#msg49471136)

- 1992 Cypherpunk Founded
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk)

- 1994 CyberCash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberCash (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberCash)

- 1994 Timothy C. May
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/static/docs/cyphernomicon.txt (https://nakamotoinstitute.org/static/docs/cyphernomicon.txt)

- 1996 E-Gold
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-gold (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-gold)

- 1996 NSA How To Make A Mint
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm (http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm)

- 1997 Adam Back HashCash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Back (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Back)

- 1997 Nick Szabo Formalizing and Securing Relationships on Public Networks
https://ojphi.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/548/469 (https://ojphi.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/548/469)

- 1998 Nick Szabo Secure Property Titles with Owner Authority
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/secure-property-titles/ (https://nakamotoinstitute.org/secure-property-titles/)

- 1998 Bit Gold
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo)

- 1998 Wei Dai B-Money
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/B-money (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/B-money)

- 1999 Dot Com Bubble
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble)

- 2001 Bram Cohen BitTorrent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_Cohen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_Cohen)

- 2001 Distributed Hash Tables
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table)

- 2004 Hal Finney / Reusable Proofs of Work
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/finney/rpow/index.html (https://nakamotoinstitute.org/finney/rpow/index.html)
 
- 2008 Satoshi Nakamoto / A Peer to Peer Electronic Cash System
https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf (https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf)

- 2009 Bitcoin Launched Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block)


Source image:
https://twitter.com/bitcoinje/status/1091672330277961728 (https://twitter.com/bitcoinje/status/1091672330277961728)



when seeing this there are lots of stuffs are inside in this Bitcoin development and it will be a marvelous and huge to read this topic and I wonder how this happened in very short period of time to develop and attract every single people to invest.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on May 01, 2019, 06:08:35 AM
https://i.imgur.com/2suvxJB.png

These graphics are part of a work I did in the thread WO.
It is the price of Bitcoin from 2013 to 2018, the value of the price is the one indicated on the last day of each month.
We can observe the trend of each year until 2018.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: alyssa85 on May 01, 2019, 01:21:57 PM
That graph on the dollar is shocking. But do you know what the really amazing thing is? The rest of the world's currencies are doing even worse than the dollar.

At least the dollar started to strengthen in 2016, as a result of interest rates normalising. Everyone else's currency weakened further as a result of zero interest rates and QE. The ECB's base rates are 0.0% and the rate they charge banks for depositing excess reserves at the ECB is -0.4%. And yet banks still deposit excess reserves with the ECB despite losing money. The mind boggles as to what they're thinking.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: funkenstein on May 01, 2019, 04:05:48 PM
Thanks OP, great stuff. 


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: MrFreeRoMan on May 09, 2019, 09:24:02 PM
Add to chronology:

2000: Hash tree (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_tree_(persistent_data_structure)#cite_ref-bagwell_1-0)  https://infoscience.epfl.ch/record/64398/files/idealhashtrees.pdf Phil Bagwell

1992–1993: Proof-of-work for spam (http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.83.7634&rep=rep1&type=pdf)

1999–present: P2P networks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer)

1999–present: Byzantine fault tolerance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_fault)





Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Last of the V8s on May 09, 2019, 10:02:07 PM
https://blog.bitmex.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/patent.pdf
schnorr sigs patent. maybe there's a better link out there


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: eternalgloom on May 10, 2019, 08:54:50 AM
Absolutely fantastic work, I'll definitely share this whenever someone asks me about the history of Bitcoin and what went ahead of its creation.
That happens more than you would expect and there's no way I'd be able to give such a complete answer as shown here in this chart/thread.

One of the few threads on here that will make it into my bookmarks folder.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: MrFreeRoMan on May 10, 2019, 08:19:06 PM
There is something else:

Satoshi Nakamoto wrote (Satoshi Nakamoto Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:33:04 -0800 (http://Satoshi Nakamoto Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:33:04 -0800))
I believe I've worked through all those little details over the
last year and a half while coding it, and there were a lot of them.
The functional details are not covered in the paper, but the
sourcecode is coming soon.  I sent you the main files.
(available by request at the moment, full release soon)

This means that he began working on Bitcoin P2P e-cash paper in the summer of 2006.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: finaleshot2016 on May 10, 2019, 09:23:11 PM
It's the first time that I see the history of bitcoin and it's very satisfying because another knowledge has been added to my learnings. This is another start up for those who will try to learn bitcoin with me. I would like to include this on my presentation if someone needs my basic learnings.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Twinkledoe on May 10, 2019, 11:41:30 PM
It's the first time that I see the history of bitcoin and it's very satisfying because another knowledge has been added to my learnings. This is another start up for those who will try to learn bitcoin with me. I would like to include this on my presentation if someone needs my basic learnings.

The  post is really an informative one if you want to know the beginnings of bitcoin. A very good reference for someone who wants to understand more about bitcoin's existence. I think this post should be pinned also for everyone's consumption.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Yakamoto on May 11, 2019, 02:06:59 AM
That graph on the dollar is shocking. But do you know what the really amazing thing is? The rest of the world's currencies are doing even worse than the dollar.

At least the dollar started to strengthen in 2016, as a result of interest rates normalising. Everyone else's currency weakened further as a result of zero interest rates and QE. The ECB's base rates are 0.0% and the rate they charge banks for depositing excess reserves at the ECB is -0.4%. And yet banks still deposit excess reserves with the ECB despite losing money. The mind boggles as to what they're thinking.
The USD is actually doing really well considering the economic conditions that are being experienced almost everywhere. The US, despite all the whining that occurs with Trump, has a booming economy in a time where every other country is in the middle of a slump. It's basically a recession for the rest of the world minus the United States, which is probably why it hasn't been called a recession on most of the main media channels yet. I'm not entirely sure how the US is pulling off their economic miracle either since there are multiple trade wars that they're embroiled in. Maybe that's how they do it and it's getting everyone to invest their money into the US' economy. I know that Canada is in a massive slump that feels different from every other since it's been down for years with only slight instances of reprieve. This doesn't feel normal, and I have a feeling it's due to a neutering government which is chopping our economy off at the knees and making it run a 100m sprint.

Regardless, the prehistory for Bitcoin is actually pretty neat. The number of advances and considerations for technology leading up to cryptos truly is mind-boggling.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on May 11, 2019, 06:44:19 AM
Thank you, for all the comments and contributions, they are already updated.

Now I need to verify the dates that refer to the administrators that Bitcointalk has had.

https://i.imgur.com/JQlYus7.png
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126554.msg50395431#msg50395431

@theymos

You can confirm if the dates are correct, please?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: d1ceplayer on May 13, 2019, 10:22:58 AM
So this really started from a long time ago. Really nice to see that someone took out their time to record all these and put them together, so that everyone can be able to see where and how it started. They have been on this since the 70’s and it continued till the last decade and we have got bitcoin from Satoshi who we are yet to know who he is. A lot of people are still confuse at what us the purpose of all this and what bitcoin us really meant for, sometime in the future we will get to know, as for now, it is for a peer-to-peer transaction.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: MrFreeRoMan on May 13, 2019, 10:37:24 AM
So this really started from a long time ago. Really nice to see that someone took out their time to record all these and put them together, so that everyone can be able to see where and how it started. They have been on this since the 70’s and it continued till the last decade and we have got bitcoin from Satoshi who we are yet to know who he is. A lot of people are still confuse at what us the purpose of all this and what bitcoin us really meant for, sometime in the future we will get to know, as for now, it is for a peer-to-peer transaction.

So you can still include in the list William Stanley Jevons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Stanley_Jevons)

In his 1874 book The Principles of Science (https://archive.org/stream/principlesofscie00jevorich#page/n165/mode/2up), he wrote:

"Can the reader say what two numbers multiplied together will produce the number 8616460799? I think it unlikely that anyone but myself will ever know"
https://i.imgur.com/9JwWGAZ.png

description one-way functions



Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on May 29, 2019, 03:34:13 PM
The Bitcoin logo:

There is little talk of the Bitcoin logo, I have compiled a bit of information about this.

https://i.imgur.com/4mhA6O6.png

The first design of the Bitcoin logo was created by satoshi nakamoto with the inscription BC / 2009

satoshi > New icon/logo / Feb-2010

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64.msg21766#msg21766

https://i.imgur.com/FHSZseb.png

https://i.imgur.com/f3oU0ae.png

https://i.imgur.com/jKLHgn6.png

bitboy > More Bitcoin logos, buttons, and also some other graphics / Nov-2010

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1631.0

https://i.imgur.com/xQwE8hk.png

bitboy, interpreted that the Bitcoin logo should be accepted as a brand image and marketing, change of color gold to orange, the inclined symbol, the vertical bars at the ends, is a unique design and very successful for merchandising.

The logo is also part of the Bitcoin story.

As always, I was pleasantly surprised to read 2010/2011 threads, mainly for their comments, content and to see forum members who are still active in Bitcointalk.



https://i.imgur.com/wdeObGB.png

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Promotional_graphics (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Promotional_graphics)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Decksperiment on May 30, 2019, 06:35:55 AM
A very good overview of where Bitcoin started and since its a chart for Bitcoin prehistory, maybe you could add in the timeline the origins of cryptography and its evolution over time especially in World War II era where there are serious work being done about it which I guess lays the foundation of modern cryptography which is directly related to Bitcoin. Imho.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: el kaka22 on May 31, 2019, 06:11:22 AM
Bitcoin wasn't created out of "sudden thoughts" but there was previous tries before bitcoin came to be but that doesn't mean bitcoin took something from them and made it better, it was something totally different with the same idea.

Bitcoin put the emphasis on the decentralized part, all the previous tries didn't had the power of blockchain with them, it was a currency and it was unknown how it would be used but when bitcoin was created it was powered by blockchain which made the big difference between bitcoin and all other previous tries.

So, we can say that the "online money" idea was old as internet itself but the blockchain idea was purely new and that was the difference that made bitcoin super known and used by everyone. I am still thankful that I was around early and got in very early, it changed my life but if I have seen all others previously I would never got into them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: MrFreeRoMan on May 31, 2019, 08:38:25 AM
https://i.imgur.com/7k8F4W1.jpg


1913 / 2019 - This is what happens with a traditional monetary system.

https://twitter.com/Goldbroker_com/status/1094717801166704643 (https://twitter.com/Goldbroker_com/status/1094717801166704643)

Value of the Dollar Today (https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-the-value-of-a-dollar-today-3306105)
Why the Dollar Is Worth So Much Less Than It Used to Be

https://i.imgur.com/zYSWDJH.png


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Julunguul on June 02, 2019, 11:09:46 PM
I just realized that Bitcoin was basically moved by several invoices about cypher or cryptography. I have also studied this for a while and yes it is quite difficult for me to continue. And btw, that logo of Bitcoin with stand upright is better than the right-tilted.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: MrFreeRoMan on June 10, 2019, 07:08:25 PM
History of Bitcoin 2009-2018 (Git Visualization) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=619&v=DjYbsq3FXfM)

And this:
Announcing the first release of Bitcoin, a new electronic cash
system that uses a peer-to-peer network to prevent double-spending

Bitcoin v0.1 released (https://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2009-January/014994.html)
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/bitcoin/bitcoin-0.1.0.rar


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: redsun114 on June 12, 2019, 12:06:16 PM
You really took your time to write all this? I can't even read up to half of what you have written here cause I don't read much. If we are talking about cryptocurrency and the creation, all these people that you have mentioned here, no one is going to remember them as long as it crypto we are talking about. Everyone has their own field where they will be remembered, if you're talking about cryptocurrency then the only person everyone remembers is Satoshi Nakamoto and no one else. He's the creator of cryptocurrency and that's all we know. Others should only take glory in their own respective fields.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on June 17, 2019, 10:14:56 AM
^
Of course, all the merit of Bitcoin belongs to Satoshi Nakamoto, but here we are describing the prehistory of Bitcoin, there are several protocols that are used today and are older than Bitcoin.


Bitcoin v0.1 released

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Satoshi Nakamoto Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:05:49 -0800

Announcing the first release of Bitcoin, a new electronic cash
system that uses a peer-to-peer network to prevent double-spending.
It's completely decentralized with no server or central authority.

https://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg10142.html (https://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg10142.html)



Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on June 21, 2019, 03:39:01 PM
"BTC is the Monetary layer of the internet protocol:"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9lyy64XoAA6qPS.jpg

https://twitter.com/mrcoolbp/status/1142070202676457472 (https://twitter.com/mrcoolbp/status/1142070202676457472)

This graphic is like a simplified version of the thread. ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on July 07, 2019, 10:44:29 AM
https://i.imgur.com/cIqLKM6.jpg
https://www.coinreview.com/history-of-blockchain/ (https://www.coinreview.com/history-of-blockchain/)

Quote
The P2P design makes it near impossible to attack and compromise services. It also removes the censorship leverage that servers provide.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on July 12, 2019, 02:53:24 PM
Today is the big day for BTCitcoin:

https://i.imgur.com/Q7vuQMR.png
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149472282584072192 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149472282584072192)

"Trump Tweeting About Bitcoin Is ‘Achievement Unlocked,’ Says Coinbase CEO"

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“Achievement unlocked! I dreamt about a sitting U.S. president needing to respond to growing cryptocurrency usage years ago. ‘First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.’ We just made it to step 3 y'all,”

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-industry-celebrates-achievement-unlocked-as-trump-pumps-market (https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-industry-celebrates-achievement-unlocked-as-trump-pumps-market)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Mr.ZODIAC on July 20, 2019, 08:32:20 PM
Judging by what information is being distributed on the network, I believe that the struggle for the right to use cryptocurrency is waiting for us, and at the same time the resistance from the governments will be very strong.  Guys, I want to say one great truth.  Governments come and go, but the people always remain the same. ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on July 26, 2019, 04:40:37 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ivdW2Gt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ivdW2Gt.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/ivdW2Gt.jpg)

Great future for FIAT money..., the printers will never be unemployed.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on August 03, 2019, 03:16:48 PM
https://i.imgur.com/KuUoJpT.jpg

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BULLISH: The 50MA crossed above the 200MA on the 3-day BTC/USD chart, forming a so-called golden cross. The last time this happened was in February 2016.

https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/1157274852379770881 (https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/1157274852379770881)

History always repeats itself? it's possible, we talk about BTCitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on August 05, 2019, 03:53:21 PM
https://i.imgur.com/5VbxaaM.png
https://usdsat.com/ (https://usdsat.com/)

Banks !!!, your business collapses.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: davinchi on August 06, 2019, 04:20:10 PM
[im g width=825]https://i.imgur.com/5VbxaaM.png[/img]
https://usdsat.com/ (https://usdsat.com/)

Banks !!!, your business collapses.
The time that 1 satoshi will equals to 1 usd is the right time I am actually waiting for, and that is what I have been accumulating my btc for, I may have missed out of when bitcoin was 1 cent, but I am not going to miss out of this one again.

Dollar is gradually weakening against bitcoin and this is why trump came out recently to defend dollars and condemn bitcoin, but despite the fact that a whole United State president came out to declare interest against bitcoin, bitcoin still did not fall in value. Let us give it another 10 years’ time, I am sure that 1 satoshi will surely equals to 1 dollar, by that time, adoption rate would have been so high and the supply of bitcoin would have been equally limited too if not exhausted already.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on August 07, 2019, 04:03:05 PM
July 23, 2010

The FED's Real Monetary Problem
By Thomas Luongo

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2010/07/thomas-luongo/the-ferment-in-alternative-currencies/ (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2010/07/thomas-luongo/the-ferment-in-alternative-currencies/)



June 24, 2019

Bitcoin is Back – As a Safe Haven Asset
By Thomas Luongo

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John Exter visualized the global financial system as an upside down pyramid.
https://i.imgur.com/FZAjTiD.jpg
Quote
Exter’s Inverted Pyramid of the Monetary System

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For the crypto-space I see it similarly (if we ever get to a true private crypto-based monetary system.
https://i.imgur.com/KOSpe5U.png
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Bitcoin as the reserve asset of the Crypto-World

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And this cannot be denied by the most religiously ardent Bitcoin-haters.
https://i.imgur.com/vNDPDZt.png
Quote
Pictures are sometimes worth a helluva lot more than a thousand words. In the past 48 hours ones like this are worth billions. This is Bitcoin’s performance in 2019 overlaid versus the most liquid, most important, single deepest market in the entire world.

The 10-year U.S. Treasury note is the foundation for so much of the global financial system that you cannot deny this relationship has some merit, if not real power.

The deep inversion of the U.S. yield curve is not just about a recession straight ahead. It’s about capital markets that are spooked into what I think is the mother of all defensive trades. And this has all the classic safe-haven asset classes in massive bull markets or just beginning them.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/06/thomas-luongo/bitcoin-is-back-as-a-safe-haven-asset/ (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/06/thomas-luongo/bitcoin-is-back-as-a-safe-haven-asset/)

Recommended reading, start first with the article of July 23, 2010 and then with that of June 24, 2019.

9 Years separate these items.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on September 17, 2019, 04:18:41 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ZwQAVKf.png

Yesterday, the Wall Observer thread reached 25,000 pages, many pages for a single thread, Bitcointalk is already part of the history of Bitcoin, but if it continues this way, Wall Observer will become a mythical Bitcoin thread.

- 25,000 Pages
- 500,000 Replies
- 21,366,000 Views
   
- Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.0)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on November 23, 2019, 04:42:13 PM
Yesterday, gmaxwell published a thread with excellent information where it highlights some very interesting records to know a little more about the history of Bitcointalk.

[BCT FACT] Bitcointalk was originally on Bitcoin.org but ... drama

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Bitcointalk was originally a forum under www.bitcoin.org/smf/ and then later on a subdomain at forums.bitcoin.org but it isn't anymore.

Here is the 2011 announcement, but it doesn't give the backstory.

It seems like people have been systematically nuking logs of Bitcoin's history off the Internet for whatever reason, so many of you who weren't personally there and involved in 2011 probably have not seen this bit of history.

I'll just let the chat logs tell the story of why it was moved and how it got the name bitcointalk.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203621.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203621.0)

It is a must-read thread if you want to know more about the forum.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: lulucrypto on November 24, 2019, 01:06:05 AM
Very interesting subject, it reminds me some videos showing the evolution of a project / object over time.

I thank you for sharing, I discovered a lot of things that I did not know with these links :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: befriendmywater on November 24, 2019, 03:16:30 AM
wow, this is crazyy! I now understand that the way Nakatomo Satoshi made bitcoin was based on algorithms that had existed before. There have been many theories and desires achieved when bitcoin was born and I am quite impressed with the words of Cypherpunk. they are also probably one of the founders of cryptocurrency discovery and the earliest experience.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: NathanJB on November 24, 2019, 03:35:50 AM
Wow! This is an amazing historical compilation of events that became a precursor to the great Bitcoin. I will read more of this for sure after my work. Thank you for exerting great effort for this and sharing this to everyone. Bitcoin is more appreciated if everyone knows more of it and its history.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: drlukacs on November 24, 2019, 03:59:34 AM
This really surprised me and this idea is really great. It combines many theories from ancient to present to create a decentralized trading system and the best security. I now understand why bitcoin is so valuable in the past. It is the quintessential combination of many years and many old projects. Cryptocurrency and Blockchain are really a great value chain, so I believe that the future of the crypto market will grow further and stronger. perhaps now many governments still don't see the strength of our market. Time will prove everything.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: EdvinZ on November 24, 2019, 08:16:04 AM
A really cool collection of information for those who want to better understand cryptography. After all, without knowing the history, you can not build the future. I think it should be interesting to read to anyone who somehow interacts with cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on November 24, 2019, 03:47:48 PM
I hope that more people like gmaxwell, which gives us the possibility to know more about the real history of Bitcoin and the forum, continue to publish well-documented threads so that we can all know first-hand what happened from the beginning.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: supercanada1 on November 24, 2019, 04:55:02 PM
Yesterday, gmaxwell published a thread with excellent information where it highlights some very interesting records to know a little more about the history of Bitcointalk.

[BCT FACT] Bitcointalk was originally on Bitcoin.org but ... drama

Quote
Bitcointalk was originally a forum under www.bitcoin.org/smf/ and then later on a subdomain at forums.bitcoin.org but it isn't anymore.

Here is the 2011 announcement, but it doesn't give the backstory.

It seems like people have been systematically nuking logs of Bitcoin's history off the Internet for whatever reason, so many of you who weren't personally there and involved in 2011 probably have not seen this bit of history.

I'll just let the chat logs tell the story of why it was moved and how it got the name bitcointalk.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203621.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203621.0)

It is a must-read thread if you want to know more about the forum.
That was very informative. They were under a situation where no other good solution was possible. Not Making the bitcoin.org site official had its own reason certainly. Besides, the matter of illegal activities could not be avoided either. That was actually a bit rough and happy to see such topics are no more promoted. At present, it is the best forum for tuning with digital currencies market, specially bitcoin. They wanted development to be a separate organization from forum.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Webetcoins on November 25, 2019, 01:20:01 PM
Yesterday, gmaxwell published a thread with excellent information where it highlights some very interesting records to know a little more about the history of Bitcointalk.

[BCT FACT] Bitcointalk was originally on Bitcoin.org but ... drama

Quote
Bitcointalk was originally a forum under www.bitcoin.org/smf/ and then later on a subdomain at forums.bitcoin.org but it isn't anymore.

Here is the 2011 announcement, but it doesn't give the backstory.

It seems like people have been systematically nuking logs of Bitcoin's history off the Internet for whatever reason, so many of you who weren't personally there and involved in 2011 probably have not seen this bit of history.

I'll just let the chat logs tell the story of why it was moved and how it got the name bitcointalk.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203621.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203621.0)

It is a must-read thread if you want to know more about the forum.
That was very informative. They were under a situation where no other good solution was possible. Not Making the bitcoin.org site official had its own reason certainly. Besides, the matter of illegal activities could not be avoided either. That was actually a bit rough and happy to see such topics are no more promoted. At present, it is the best forum for tuning with digital currencies market, specially bitcoin. They wanted development to be a separate organization from forum.
Purpose of the forum is to provide a place for participants of an industry to share thought with each other and get solutions of problems. Development team needs to focus on betterment of a project. Giving both one room will definitely not work. You cannot focus on your work when a lot of groups are talking about different topics. Developers need their own space and separating both was the right thing to do.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: fillippone on November 28, 2019, 06:30:40 AM
I found this nicer info graphic, even if I have to admit is less complete than the one in the OP:
One nice property is that opening the pdf version you have clickable links:

https://bitcoinandmarkets.com/prehistory-infographic/

https://bitcoinandmarkets.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Bitcoin-History-Infographic-768x2880.png


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on December 03, 2019, 07:38:42 PM
I inform you that the Bitcoin Prehistory thread has been selected on the tenth anniversary of the forum, for notable historical publications, this would not have been possible without your participation and collaboration.
Thanks you all, I will continue working to improve it.

Caption results
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206366.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206366.0)



Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on December 04, 2019, 04:44:15 PM
https://i.imgur.com/RAtBBfE.png

History of Bitcoin 2009-2018 (Git Visualization)

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Graphical visualisation of the Bitcoin Github repository from 2009 to 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjYbsq3FXfM&t (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjYbsq3FXfM&t)

Better watch it without haste and in full screen with high resolution, I hope you enjoy it.



Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on January 03, 2020, 04:12:01 PM
https://i.imgur.com/vjQ2pxJ.png
(graphic VB1001)

Bitcoin Obituaries

https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin-obituaries/ (https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin-obituaries/)

A list made by 99bitcoins where they comment on the reason why Bitcoin is going to die.

Just an annual table to see in perspective how many times a year they killed us, total: 379 8)



Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on January 12, 2020, 05:46:01 PM
https://i.imgur.com/IFSVjop.png
https://twitter.com/halfin/status/1110302988 (https://twitter.com/halfin/status/1110302988)

11 Years ago from this, thanks Hal.

(The link was added)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: jameshugo17 on January 12, 2020, 08:26:10 PM
How did Bitcoin improve? Technological advances are good. The system is striving to increase the size of the block. Bitcoin performs the value transfer function. What about the Bitcoin philosophy? Does it offer a better system than the current economy? Further studies are needed to assess them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on January 21, 2020, 04:58:28 PM
Quote
Those coins can never be recovered, and the total circulation is less.  Since the effective circulation is reduced, all the remaining coins are worth slightly more.  
It's the opposite of when a government prints money and the value of existing money goes down.
By Satoshi Nakamoto

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=13.msg46#msg46 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=13.msg46#msg46)

If you have the opportunity to get 1 Bitcoin, you are very lucky, many will not get it.



Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Last of the V8s on February 13, 2020, 10:37:47 PM
If you've read about bitcoin in the press and have some familiarity with academic research in the field of cryptography, you might reasonably come away with the following impression: Several decades' worth of research on digital cash, beginning with David Chaum,10,12 did not lead to commercial success because it required a centralized, banklike server controlling the system, and no banks wanted to sign on. Along came bitcoin, a radically different proposal for a decentralized cryptocurrency that didn't need the banks, and digital cash finally succeeded. Its inventor, the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto, was an academic outsider, and bitcoin bears no resemblance to earlier academic proposals.

This article challenges that view by showing that nearly all of the technical components of bitcoin originated in the academic literature of the 1980s and '90s (see figure 1). This is not to diminish Nakamoto's achievement but to point out that he stood on the shoulders of giants. Indeed, by tracing the origins of the ideas in bitcoin, we can zero in on Nakamoto's true leap of insight—the specific, complex way in which the underlying components are put together. This helps explain why bitcoin took so long to be invented. Readers already familiar with how bitcoin works may gain a deeper understanding from this historical presentation. (For an introduction, see Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency Technologies by Arvind Narayanan et al.36) Bitcoin's intellectual history also serves as a case study demonstrating the relationships among academia, outside researchers, and practitioners, and offers lessons on how these groups can benefit from one another.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 13, 2020, 11:39:47 PM
If you have the opportunity to get 1 Bitcoin, you are very lucky, many will not get it.
That's undoubtedly true but who knows what the ownership distribution is going to look like in a decade or two.  Right now I think there are a few people who own a lot of bitcoin, like the Winklevoss twins and some of the OGs from back in the day.

Anyway, speaking of bitcoin history (not prehistory, though), I'm reading Digital Gold by Nathaniel Popper on the suggestion of gentlemand (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=155345) and I'm glad I picked it up on Amazon.  I got into bitcoin relatively late and never really got to know who the big names are/were, and the book is doing a great job so far taking me through bitcoin's very early days (I'm only a few chapters in).  Not surprisingly, mention of bitcointalk started very early in the book but I was pleased to see that anyway.  If anyone hasn't read Digital Gold and is looking for a well-written journalistic account of bitcoin's history, you should check it out. 

Sometimes I've seen names mentioned over and over here, but often that just leaves me scratching my head wondering who these people are--like Hal Finney and bitcointalk's own sirius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4).  It's very nice the book covers stuff like that, else I probably would have remained too lazy to ever figure it out.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on April 03, 2020, 05:50:00 PM
I'm reading Digital Gold by Nathaniel Popper on the suggestion of gentlemand (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=155345)

Thanks for the recommendation, I will buy the book.



https://i.imgur.com/X4XwzXs.jpg
https://twitter.com/howmuch_net/status/1245335959065047045 (https://twitter.com/howmuch_net/status/1245335959065047045)

With all lossy stock indices and central banks printing money, Bitcoin continues on its way.

BTC dominace: 65,6% / $6,710

https://coin360.com/ (https://coin360.com/)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: azarharus on April 03, 2020, 08:07:23 PM
https://i.imgur.com/IFSVjop.png
https://twitter.com/halfin/status/1110302988 (https://twitter.com/halfin/status/1110302988)

11 Years ago from this, thanks Hal.

(The link was added)
he also twitted about bitcoin's co2 emissions 11 years ago, such a great mind.
Only now we start to worry about same problem, energy usage and all that bad stuff


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Meowth05 on April 04, 2020, 06:31:31 AM
This is really nice, never thought I will see this. This is a very nice thread for history buffs like me. It is like walking the memory lane.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: fillippone on May 02, 2020, 07:19:29 PM
A summary of the most iconic tweets in Bitcoin History compiled by Jameson Lopp:

 The Annals of Bitcoin Twitter (https://blog.lopp.net/annals-bitcoin-twitter-history/)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on May 03, 2020, 06:22:56 AM
The Memes Make the Bitcoin

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An introductory guide to popular Bitcoin memes and their significance.
https://blog.lopp.net/the-memes-make-the-bitcoin/ (https://blog.lopp.net/the-memes-make-the-bitcoin/)

Memes have accompanied Bitcoin practically from the beginning, an article with illustrations and comments from, Jameson Lopp.



https://i.imgur.com/ArzBPep.png

Coinbase: Bitcoin Is Superior to Gold

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Coinbase also notes that Bitcoin markets are currently posting year-to-date gains of 20% and 12% respectively.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinbase-bitcoin-is-superior-to-gold (https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinbase-bitcoin-is-superior-to-gold)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on May 23, 2020, 06:38:42 AM
https://i.imgur.com/vzImwuJ.png

Pizza for bitcoins?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.0)

Bitcoin Pizza Day 10th Anniversary

The first purchase made with Bitcoins, 10,000BTC = 2 Pizzas, today with 10,000 Bitcoins... 8)
things have changed a bit. 1BTC/$9,225



- Although if we review the history of Bitcoin, it might be better to see in detail the dates of the first transaction, the first sale and finally the purchase of pizza:

Jan-12-2009 / Block 170 First transaction Bitcoin: Satoshi Nakamoto sent 10 BTC to Hal Finney.
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One of the first supporters, adopters, contributors to bitcoin and receiver of the first bitcoin transaction was programmer Hal Finney. Finney downloaded the bitcoin software the day it was released, and received 10 bitcoins from Nakamoto in the world's first bitcoin transaction on 12 January 2009
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Category:History (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Category:History)

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/f4184fc596403b9d638783cf57adfe4c75c605f6356fbc91338530e9831e9e16 (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/f4184fc596403b9d638783cf57adfe4c75c605f6356fbc91338530e9831e9e16)

Oct-12-2009 / Block 24835 First Bitcoin sale to Fiat.
Quote
When Bitcoin started out there wasn’t really a price for it since no one was willing to buy it. The first time Bitcoin actually gained value was on October 12, 2009 when Martti Malmi, a Finnish developer that helped Satoshi work on Bitcoin, sold 5050 Bitcoins for $5.02.
https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin/historical-price/ (https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin/historical-price/)

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/7dff938918f07619abd38e4510890396b1cef4fbeca154fb7aafba8843295ea2 (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/7dff938918f07619abd38e4510890396b1cef4fbeca154fb7aafba8843295ea2)

Martti Malmi sold 5,050 BTC for $5.02
https://twitter.com/marttimalmi/status/423455561703624704 (https://twitter.com/marttimalmi/status/423455561703624704)

May-22-2010 / Block 57043 Pizza Day 10,000BTC.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/a1075db55d416d3ca199f55b6084e2115b9345e16c5cf302fc80e9d5fbf5d48d (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/a1075db55d416d3ca199f55b6084e2115b9345e16c5cf302fc80e9d5fbf5d48d)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: Last of the V8s on October 06, 2020, 06:59:03 PM
https://twitter.com/jimepstein/status/1313541954031038472?s=20
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Tomorrow @reason is publishing the 1st of my 4-part documentary series about the cypherpunk movement of the ‘90s, which led to bitcoin, @wikileaks, among other things.  Here's a thread about some of the participants & screenshots from my interviews.

edit https://twitter.com/jimepstein/status/1313840749386125313?s=20
part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWh6Yzr12iQ Before the Web: The 1980s Dream of a Free and Borderless Virtual World (Pt.1)

https://i.imgur.com/9ovQ4UQ.png


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on October 31, 2020, 06:43:57 AM
12 years since the publication of the White Paper

Fri Oct 31 14:10:00 EDT 2008
Bitcoin P2P e-cash paper
Quote
I've been working on a new electronic cash system that's fully
peer-to-peer, with no trusted third party.

The paper is available at:
http://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

The main properties:
 Double-spending is prevented with a peer-to-peer network.
 No mint or other trusted parties.
 Participants can be anonymous.
 New coins are made from Hashcash style proof-of-work.
 The proof-of-work for new coin generation also powers the
    network to prevent double-spending.

Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System

Abstract.  A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would
allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another
without the burdens of going through a financial institution.
Digital signatures provide part of the solution, but the main
benefits are lost if a trusted party is still required to prevent
double-spending.  We propose a solution to the double-spending
problem using a peer-to-peer network.  The network timestamps
transactions by hashing them into an ongoing chain of hash-based
proof-of-work, forming a record that cannot be changed without
redoing the proof-of-work.  The longest chain not only serves as
proof of the sequence of events witnessed, but proof that it came
from the largest pool of CPU power.  As long as honest nodes control
the most CPU power on the network, they can generate the longest
chain and outpace any attackers.  The network itself requires
minimal structure.  Messages are broadcasted on a best effort basis,
and nodes can leave and rejoin the network at will, accepting the
longest proof-of-work chain as proof of what happened while they
were gone.

Full paper at:
http://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

Satoshi Nakamoto
https://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2008-October/014810.html (https://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2008-October/014810.html)

It is available in several languages ​​here:
https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-paper (https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-paper)



Code:
Date	           Price	        Percentage
1  year  ago      10,793 sats - 31.761%
2  years ago      15,822 sats - 53.451%
3  years ago      15,509 sats - 52.511%
4  years ago     143,396 sats - 94.864%
5  years ago     307,615 sats - 97.606%
6  years ago     296,913 sats - 97.519%
7  years ago     504,474 sats - 98.540%
8  years ago   8,927,774 sats - 99.918%
9  years ago 31,746,032 sats - 99.977%
10 years ago 519,480,519 sats - 99.999%

1 US dollar is currently worth 7373 sats
https://usdsat.com/ (https://usdsat.com/)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on December 19, 2020, 07:35:11 AM
https://i.imgur.com/okxZE2e.png
https://usdsat.com/ (https://usdsat.com/)

1 US dollar is currently worth 4323 sats

Bitstamp ATH:

- Dec. 17 2017 / 19,666
- Dec. 17 2020 / 23,777


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: fillippone on December 19, 2020, 11:37:08 AM
“Do not invest in fiat money more than you are able to afford to lose”.

This is the sad plot twist you learn from this graph.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: DrBeer on December 20, 2020, 11:53:03 AM
Thank you so much for such a unique collection of information on the topic! To be honest, almost 90% of what is given here by the author, unfortunately, did not even know! Very, very useful for forming a deep understanding of what cryptocurrency and decentralized systems are !


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: vaultman on December 21, 2020, 11:08:47 PM
I've heard a lot about E-gold from the whole list. Thus, it turns out that the creators of bitcoin have collected in their project all the best from previous developments and research from around the world. I think that the creators of bitcoin did not initially count on such popularity of cryptocurrencies all over the world, bitcoin was supposed to become a test cryptocurrency. Particularly surprising are the articles published before 1990, when everything was so poorly developed, while such discoveries were made for the digital world. One of the few really worth reading threads.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Prehistory
Post by: VB1001 on January 03, 2021, 07:33:51 AM
12th
Happy Birthday BTCitcoin

Genesis block "The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks"
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block)

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