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Title: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: bitpacket on April 03, 2019, 08:13:21 PM
If I buy a preowned 1070 G1 8GB for example at $250 how fast will the price decline?
I already know that if i buy a new one at $400, as soon as i use it the price plummets to $250 because it's now preowned.

But what about the value decay from there?
In 1 year, can I expect resale price to be around $200-250 still?
Or what affects the price. New generation of GPU's? Crypto crashing again?


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: stomachgrowls on April 03, 2019, 09:34:25 PM
In 1 year, can I expect resale price to be around $200-250 still?
Or what affects the price. New generation of GPU's? Crypto crashing again?

Adding up on the duration of your GPU will also decrease its resale value.Its pre-owned when you bought it and its expected to go even more lower.

Factors affect price? Ofcourse,

GPU model
Operation Duration (worn out parts)

Not sure on what would be the precise price after a year but you should expect to be lower.


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: bitpacket on April 04, 2019, 04:48:41 AM
In 1 year, can I expect resale price to be around $200-250 still?
Or what affects the price. New generation of GPU's? Crypto crashing again?

Adding up on the duration of your GPU will also decrease its resale value.Its pre-owned when you bought it and its expected to go even more lower.

Factors affect price? Ofcourse,

GPU model
Operation Duration (worn out parts)

Not sure on what would be the precise price after a year but you should expect to be lower.

Can you give an estimate? How much did the previous generation of GPU's drop in price when the current generation came out? Did they drop off a cliff?


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: romelitounknown on April 04, 2019, 06:41:36 AM

Or what affects the price. New generation of GPU's? Crypto crashing again?
Some factors that may affects the price are as follows:
Longevity of usage
Physical/technical performance
New released model
Market price
Supply and demand


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: Awesomus Maximus on April 04, 2019, 07:25:46 AM
Or what affects the price. New generation of GPU's? Crypto crashing again?
I doubt Nvidia is going to introduce a new generation of GUPs soon. You can scratch that out. Crypto crashing again is possible, and that would affect the price for sure, but I hope it won't happen any time soon. If you are going to buy a preowned card, pay attention because it is important that the owner is not a miner himself. If he is, the chances to be able to resell the card after a year are not high.


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: stolarzz on April 04, 2019, 08:05:53 AM
Prices of GPU mostly depends about crypto market condition. This old 1070 what is 250 usd today, can be worth 700 usd tommorow if there'll be profitability per GPU like 5/usd day :D


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: Alucard2425 on April 04, 2019, 08:44:08 AM
I think it depends in market conditions in crypto market before Q4 2017 the market is in hype and the GPU price had a BIG leap in its original price  ;)


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: Badman-Crypto on April 04, 2019, 09:13:49 AM
It completely depends on the demand for old GPUs in a year from now. Maybe if crypto goes bullish again and GPUs for mining are in demand like 2017 then price may be the same as now. Otherwise I would expect some decline.


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: lunobird on April 04, 2019, 04:29:29 PM
Nvidia cards hold value very well like Apple products. 10 series cards still hold a lot of value despite being 3 years old. More like only a 33 percent drop from MSRP brand new. Just go look on eBay and Craigslist

Ya if we go into a bull run and short supply video cards can double in price.

AMD cards did drop off a cliff


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: CjMapope on April 04, 2019, 04:51:29 PM
ya its hard to say
we can have one new coin pop up and R9 370's will be boss again for a while, resale price will rocket for a few months
we saw it with ETH, and even with RVN (and a few smaller coins+progpow) last year a bit
could happen again
Nvidia holds best chance long on that as well imo
Tho i still fire my R9 270x here and there as well, does ok on XMR :P


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: Fredomago on April 04, 2019, 05:16:16 PM
There's  chances that it will not move that much, considering that the market is rising, there's possibilities that mining equipment will be profitable again, it's hard to decide as we see what happen previously when most people start to buy those mining equipment and after that the value falls hard, make some more reviews and assess if how can you manage to adjust in case another downfall happens.


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: stomachgrowls on April 04, 2019, 08:42:35 PM
In 1 year, can I expect resale price to be around $200-250 still?
Or what affects the price. New generation of GPU's? Crypto crashing again?

~snip~

Can you give an estimate? How much did the previous generation of GPU's drop in price when the current generation came out? Did they drop off a cliff?
Im with those sentiments above about Nvdia cards which do holds resale value for a couple of years and i totally agree with that if you try to compare
it with AMD cards but you can actually look on current marketplaces because resale value will surely vary.


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: naufals4 on April 05, 2019, 12:18:02 AM
If I buy a preowned 1070 G1 8GB for example at $250 how fast will the price decline?
I already know that if i buy a new one at $400, as soon as i use it the price plummets to $250 because it's now preowned.

But what about the value decay from there?
In 1 year, can I expect resale price to be around $200-250 still?
Or what affects the price. New generation of GPU's? Crypto crashing again?
if you hope that the price of your GTX 1070 will cost around $ 200- $ 250 this year it might be possible, but if you wait continuously maybe the price might be around $ 150.

some of the things that affect the price of the graphics card are technology developments that make the latest graphic cards come out so that the price of the old graphic card will go down


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: dentolas on April 05, 2019, 07:42:13 AM
it is natural that if you use the GPUs further, they would loose another portion of it's value. The exact price is relative to the intensity of use you apply to it, and the general price offer of used GPUs of that model at the time you sell...
Latest generations of GPU have a long expiration date... 2 years ago I've bought a few 1050Ti for an experience, and just noted a few days ago, that they are actually more expensive now, than 2 years ago (new)
On the contrary of ASICs, these don't get immediatly outdated when a new model is out....


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: shiming on April 05, 2019, 11:53:00 AM
This needs to consider the market demand. When the market supply exceeds demand, the price falls, but when the demand is greater than the supply, the price rises. The mining market was very popular last year, and the price of video cards has risen sharply. But this year, the market has changed a lot.


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: mak013 on April 05, 2019, 03:05:02 PM
If I buy a preowned 1070 G1 8GB for example at $250 how fast will the price decline?
I already know that if i buy a new one at $400, as soon as i use it the price plummets to $250 because it's now preowned.

But what about the value decay from there?
In 1 year, can I expect resale price to be around $200-250 still?
Or what affects the price. New generation of GPU's? Crypto crashing again?
if you hope that the price of your GTX 1070 will cost around $ 200- $ 250 this year it might be possible, but if you wait continuously maybe the price might be around $ 150.

some of the things that affect the price of the graphics card are technology developments that make the latest graphic cards come out so that the price of the old graphic card will go down
And may be $ 500 easily. No one knows. As i see in my city right now - new GPU costs as it was 2 years ago, preowned - 20-25% cheaper. Everyone who knows - never`ll say it to someone - he will loose money with it.


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: traderethereum on April 05, 2019, 03:15:00 PM
If I buy a preowned 1070 G1 8GB for example at $250 how fast will the price decline?
I already know that if i buy a new one at $400, as soon as i use it the price plummets to $250 because it's now preowned.

But what about the value decay from there?
In 1 year, can I expect resale price to be around $200-250 still?
Or what affects the price. New generation of GPU's? Crypto crashing again?
To be honest, how much you can get from 1070 G1 8Gb in a month? If you divide let say $250 per GPU, you need to make $8,33/day after the electricity cost. That is only for 1 GPU, if you have 5 GPU, you need to calculate how much the electricity fee you should pay. If you can make that money, then you can choose that GPU. But if you cannot make that money, then it's not worth it for you.
You cannot expect the resale price to be around $200-$250 because the price will always go down for half price. So the price would be at $100-$150 per GPU.


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: mak013 on April 06, 2019, 01:00:48 PM
If I buy a preowned 1070 G1 8GB for example at $250 how fast will the price decline?
I already know that if i buy a new one at $400, as soon as i use it the price plummets to $250 because it's now preowned.

But what about the value decay from there?
In 1 year, can I expect resale price to be around $200-250 still?
Or what affects the price. New generation of GPU's? Crypto crashing again?
To be honest, how much you can get from 1070 G1 8Gb in a month? If you divide let say $250 per GPU, you need to make $8,33/day after the electricity cost. That is only for 1 GPU, if you have 5 GPU, you need to calculate how much the electricity fee you should pay. If you can make that money, then you can choose that GPU. But if you cannot make that money, then it's not worth it for you.
You cannot expect the resale price to be around $200-$250 because the price will always go down for half price. So the price would be at $100-$150 per GPU.
He doesn`t say anything about 1 month ROI. If i`ll see anywhere such a profit - i`ll spend all my money buying GPUs  ;D
And also i cant understand, why are u halving price. And for what time it is halving?


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: kotikadze on April 06, 2019, 08:18:41 PM
It seems to me that now we need to purchase a new generation of video cards (Nvidia 2060 / 2070-2080) This will be reasonable, as new algorithms will be released, which will be made for RTX.


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: adaseb on April 06, 2019, 09:48:12 PM
GPU prices are actually very stable. Usually Nvidia GPUs and Intel based CPUs hold their value extremely well.

The higher end gpus like the 1080Ti however depreciate more than the mid-tier 1070 or so.

If you can manage to score a few 1070 from the second hand market and use it for 6-12 months, you might be able to resell them at break-even. Even if the crypto mining GPU market never recovers.

Only equipment that might lose value are risers. Those usually become useless once the crypto market dies but everything else will hold value.


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: CryptoCoinArbitrage on April 06, 2019, 11:33:26 PM
 It is very difficult to predict. When there was the hype in 2017 price of the second hand  GPUs doubled as there were neither new or old GPUs available.


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: TheHas on April 07, 2019, 02:48:41 AM
In 2017, a GTX 1070 was still about the $400 USD mark. Today it is still hanging around that price point as the next generation of cards is only just coming out now.

So buying new they are about the same price. I'd be cautious buying second hand as it could break and you have no warrantee. You don't know if a miner has been stressing their cards out at 85 degrees celcius 24/7 for three years!

Maybe buy new, and sell second hand yourself in a couple years time if you're worried about resell value?


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: badbart on April 07, 2019, 03:30:44 AM
I've been running 75 - 100 gpus for 2 years in 100 degree weather some gpus at at 83 degrees and never a problem with the temps.  Only thing that breaks are the fans, which are very easy to fix.  Gigabyte and Zotac are the brands I've had the most fan failures.  I just remove the fans and zip tie a case fan to the gpu, takes about 10 minutes.  If I was going to sell them of course I'd put the regular fan back on.

I've bought about half my gpus used, no problems so far. 


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: cryptorima on April 07, 2019, 09:01:44 AM
I think it depends in market conditions in crypto market before Q4 2017 the market is in hype and the GPU price had a BIG leap in its original price  ;)
I also thinking that it’s depend in the conditions of crypto market. If market get in touch with hype then the situation of GPU get change.     


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: Piskeante on April 07, 2019, 09:38:22 AM
how fast?? Well, i know this for a fact.

I bought back in september 2017 5 RX 570 8gb Sapphire Nitro + (the best RX 570's and 580's on the market right now IMO) to complete my rigs. i paid for them in refurbished state (they were like new no problems at all), like 220€ each, around 250$ from the biggest retailer here in Spain.

They worked in a room of my house with temps between 20 and 40ºC. the only card that needed to rump up the fans was an MSI RX 580 8gb Armor that needed just around 65% to keep it below 70ºC working operation. Most of the RX 570 nitro+ need just about 40% fan to be around 50ºC working temps.

Now, on Ebay, there are authentic bargains. Brutal ones. I had the oportunity to buy 4 RX 570 sapphire Nitro+ for just about 80€, 90$ more or less. Brand new, in the top of the madness January-April 2018, this cards, brand new were above 300€.

So prices are going down. I had an emergency plan considering the worst condition i could think off back in November 2017. I knew the market would collapse. my contingency plan considered the market to go down by 70%. Never thought it would go below that. It went almost 90%, which left me with no time to reaction.


If (for me it's very unlikely), the market just pumps and holds for some time, we will be seeing our cards gaining huge value. But mining nowdays makes no sense at all. Specially now that summer is comming. In Spain, i live by the see, and the have lots of humidity and high temps, some days, above 40 with temp sensation of over 44ºC so mining is not an option unless it's really profitable, but it's not.


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: klaaas on April 07, 2019, 09:41:37 AM
Where they are pushing out GPUS on the same speed as nike shoes it cant hold it value long. The bear market and overstock from nvidia would make it worse. A other crypto mining rush would keep the value high.


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: starkovblue on April 07, 2019, 12:05:24 PM
The answer is very simple. There are updates that are more economical and more productive.
For large farms, this is a big savings. And do not forget that after a couple of years of mining wear is huge.


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: Esterklu on April 15, 2019, 09:19:57 AM
I think the reason for this is a drop in hardware demand, resulting from small and medium-sized mining companies pulling out of the market. The profitability of mining has been severely impacted by drops in cryptocurrency prices. It will likely take a few months for the pricing of GPUs to reach normal levels once more after demand drops, but these first signs have given us hope that the days of sky-high GPU prices might soon be behind us.


Title: Re: How fast do prices of GPU's go down?
Post by: TooDumbForBitcoin on April 15, 2019, 12:38:36 PM
how fast?? Well, i know this for a fact.

I bought back in september 2017 5 RX 570 8gb Sapphire Nitro + (the best RX 570's and 580's on the market right now IMO) to complete my rigs. i paid for them in refurbished state (they were like new no problems at all), like 220€ each, around 250$ from the biggest retailer here in Spain.

They worked in a room of my house with temps between 20 and 40ºC. the only card that needed to rump up the fans was an MSI RX 580 8gb Armor that needed just around 65% to keep it below 70ºC working operation. Most of the RX 570 nitro+ need just about 40% fan to be around 50ºC working temps.

Now, on Ebay, there are authentic bargains. Brutal ones. I had the oportunity to buy 4 RX 570 sapphire Nitro+ for just about 80€, 90$ more or less. Brand new, in the top of the madness January-April 2018, this cards, brand new were above 300€.

So prices are going down. I had an emergency plan considering the worst condition i could think off back in November 2017. I knew the market would collapse. my contingency plan considered the market to go down by 70%. Never thought it would go below that. It went almost 90%, which left me with no time to reaction.


If (for me it's very unlikely), the market just pumps and holds for some time, we will be seeing our cards gaining huge value. But mining nowdays makes no sense at all. Specially now that summer is comming. In Spain, i live by the see, and the have lots of humidity and high temps, some days, above 40 with temp sensation of over 44ºC so mining is not an option unless it's really profitable, but it's not.

But we can see some kind of stabilization in price from the September 2018 after the selloff . Maybe it is a good time to buy some new not overpriced cards now.

https://i.imgur.com/znxtV1C.png