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Dahil sa thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5127186.0) ay naisipan ko na gumawa na lang tayo ng betting thread para sa mga interesado sumagal o makipag pustahan para sa darating na senatorial election. Each correct prediction sa kung ano magiging pwesto ng bawat kandidato na makakapasok sa Top 12 ay 1 point, so ang perfect score kung makuha lahat ng papasok na kandidato ay 12 points. winner takes all, paghahatian ng mga mananalo naman kung meron 2 o higit pa na panalo.




not sure pa kung lagyan natin ng entry fee bawat prediction or donations na lang galing sa mga mayayaman natin na kababayan ang magiging premyo. :)

Suggestion lang brader, pwede naman siguro na equal lang ang points sa kada tamang hula kada pwesto. If you would give 10 points to each correct guess then the total points a bettor could have would be 120 points. Madali lang kasi mahulaan yong nasa taas na pwesto. Just my thought.

I agree with your suggestion, let's make the criteria of the game simple.
Willing to join as well, but let's make the registration lower in BTC so many will participate.

BTC0.001 or BTC0.002 is good enough IMO.

edited na, bale 1 point per correct prediction na lang para din mas madali maintindihan ng iba natin kababayan.

pwede na siguro ito, medyo affordable na siya para marami naman ang sasali.

Escrow nalang ang kulang dito brader. Count me in kung sakaling matuloy ito. Katuwaan sa senatorial election natin with some sort of blockchain application  :).

We can ask bL4nkcode (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=765632) to hold the funds.
But first OP has to refine the criteria then finalize it.

I agree, di naman sya ganun kasakit sa bulsa ;D. Pero sayang lang! Hindi ako makakasali kasi wala talaga akong masyadong alam dyan sa election eh plus hindi pa ako interested so wala talaga.

Anyways, good luck na lang sa mga prospective participants sana mapick nyo talaga yung mga possible na manalo. Pero syempre mas maganda kung ititimbang nyo na rin kung sino yung karapat dapat sa slot hindi yung sunod lang sa agos, nagpapadala sa charisma or pabor lang dun sa nakakapagbigay ng "lagay" para hindi lang kayo may chance na manalo sa betting game na ito kundi napapractice na din ninyo ang good habits of voting. Makikinabang rin naman tayo in a long run kasi alam natin na hindi buwaya ang nakaluklok :).

Ps: I guess sa presidential election na lang ako sasali if ever meron ulit maganap na ganito, mas madali kasi pumili :D.

Mukhang maganda din tong election betting for the senators. And I agree dun sa may suggestion ni mirakal na .001 or .002 BTC. Since 13th of May ang election may time ka pa OP to fix the criteria or the mechanics of the game.

Well, that's a good idea here and I agree also with that prediction entry fee 0.001BTC and then if who predicted right will receive all the fund. Tama yung may nag sabi "lucky winner take all". 

OP, umpisahan mo na sayang yung oras and then you may lock this thread. Para maraming activity local natin. :D

Konting inputs and feedbacks pa bago natin umpisahan yung official senatorial betting thread natin para wala na masyadong edits na mangyari. About sa escrow, si brader blankcode na lang :)

Dapat a few weeks from election day ang deadline ng bets. Kasi madali na masnipe ang mga lalabas na senators kapag malapit na masyado sa election day dahil sa mga surveys.

Noted. Siguro atleast 3weeks before election date yung deadline natin so may ilan weeks na lang tayo kung sakali para sa pagtaya

Can you make it at least 1 week?
That would give a chance for our pot to grow, forget about the survey, there's no real survey, let's just make our own prediction.

BTW, are you the one who will make a new thread for the criteria of the competition?

The only problem that I see here is that you will only have to choose a senator in the recent survey which is in the top 15. Now you will only have to pick from 11-15 on which you will put in your selection.

Most bettors will choose the top 10 in the survey and just pick 2 more from the following 5 candidates. There will be a lot of people gonna share the pot with this.

Ako di ako susunod sa mga survey na yan. Sabi nga ni Larry Gadon pang brainwash yan and dilawan may kagagawan nang mga yan. Dahil napakadami ng populasyon ng mamboboto sa Pilipinas pero ang kukunin lang nila isang libong tao. Sa research dapat mas mataas dun eh and partida di pa yun yung 1% ng population.

Probably 1 week yung pinakamaganda although di yata magiging convenient kay OP na iayos yung votes for a short amount of time, but at least madami siguro makakasali.

Naisip ko din to kaya ang initial na points system ay iba iba ang points na posibleng makuha sa bawat pwesto para mahirapan magkaroon ng tie. Lets see pa sa konting feedback and suggestions

Why not add a healthy discussion too kung bakit yun ang senatorial bet mo, not just choosing names. Para din maka-gather ng information ang mga kababayan natin on who to vote wisely.

Tapos mag dagdag ng rule na no logical fallacies when making arguments.

mga kapwa pinoy, what if ang gawin natin is 1 point kapag pasok sa top 12 yung prediction mo at 2 points naman kapag tama yung predicted mong position nya sa top12? para sana maiwasan natin yung tie kung 1 point lang lahat

Looks good for me, I agree with that.
Since I think there will be no site that will have a betting like this, we can make this one a very exciting kind of game.

That is not my point here. I don't care if your a Duterte fan or you go for Yellow. My point is those who are in the top 10 in the survey will surely sit in the Senate and those survey has never been wrong in the entire history of Philippine senatorial election.

I'm sure that people will base their bets over the survey and top 10 is sure to sit and this is the problem we got here. 1 week before the election, voters in the Philippines will look at the survey to cast their votes.

I hope Filipinos are not stupid enough to pick someone just because the survey said that they are one of the top 10 list of 100-1000 filipinos they surveyed. Filipino population is more than 100m+ and hindi dapat don binabase kung bakit mo pipiliin ang isang kandidato, that is illogical(Appeal to popularity)
Filipinos should always consider what is the platform of the running senator.

Sana din maisip nang iba nating kapwa pinoy na hindi lang puti o itim, pula o dilaw, kanan o kaliwa ang meron sa isang pananaw. Meron ding neutral/balanse, just because disagree ka sa isang pananaw ng pangulo doesn't mean dilawan ka and just because agree ka sa isang pananaw ng pangulo doesn't mean DDS ka. May mga bagay na pag tama eh maaring suportahan pero may mga bagay din na pag mali eh hindi dapat hinahayaan.
Hindi pwedeng tango lang ng tango sa kung anong binibitawan satin ng pangulo, malayo na sa salitang suporta ang paglalarawan don, at malapit na sa salitang panatiko.

We should always for the country's best, not for the person we idolize.

From this list of Senatorial Candidates who among these people do you think is eligible being a senator?

• ABEJO, VANGIE (IND) Independent
  
  AFUANG, ABNER (WPP) Workers and Peasants Party
  
  AGUILAR, FREDDIE (IND)
  
  ALBANI, SHARIFF (WPP)
  
  ALEJANO, GARY (LP)
  
  ALFAJORA, RICHARD (IND)
  
  ALUNAN, RAFFY (BGMBYN) Bagumbayan Volunteers or a new Philippines
  
  ANGARA, EDGARDO SONNY (LDP) Laban ng Demokratikong Pilipino
  
  AQUINO, BENIGNO BAM (LP)
  
  ARCEGA, GERALD (WPP)
  
  ARELLANO, ERNESTO (IND)
  
  ARIAS, MARCELINO (WPP)
  
  AUSTRIA, BERNARD (PDSP) Partido Demokratiko Sosyalista ng Pilipinas
  
  BALDEVARONA, BALDE (FFP) Filipino Family Party
  
  BINAY, NANCY (UNA) United Nationalist Alliance
  
  BONG REVILLA, RAMON JR. (LAKAS) Lakas Christian Muslim Democrats
  
  CACERES, JESUS (IND)
  
  CASIÑO, TOTI (KDP) Katipunan ng Demokratikong Pilipino
  
  CAYETANO, PIA (NP) Nacionalista Party
  
  CHAVEZ, MELCHOR (WPP)
  
  CHONG, GLENN (KDP)
  
  COLMENARES, NERI (MKBYN) Makabayang Koalisyon ng Mamamayan
  
  DE GUZMAN, KA LEODY (PLM) Partido Lakas ng Masa
  
  DELA ROSA, BATO (PDPLBN) Partido Demokratiko Pilipino Lakas ng Bayan
  
  DIOKNO, CHEL (LP)
  
  EJERCITO, ESTRADA JV (NPC) Nationalist People’s Coalition
  
  ENRILE, JUAN PONCE (PMP) Pwersa ng Masang Pilipino
  
  ESCUDERO, AGNES (IND)
  
  ESTRADA, JINGGOY (PMP)
  
  FRANCISCO, ELMER (PFFP) Partido Federal ng Pilipinas
  
  GADDI, CHARLIE (IND)
  
  GADON, LARRY (KBL) Kilusang Bagong Lipunan
  
  GENEROSO, GEN PEDERALISMO (IND)
  
  GO, BONG GO (PDPLBN)
  
  GUIGAYUMA, JUNBERT (WPP)
  
  GUTOC, SAMIRA (LP)
  
  HILBAY, PILO (AKSYON) Aksyon Demokratiko
  
  JANGAO, BFG ABRAHAM (IND)
  
  JAVELLANA, RJ (KDP)
  
  LAPID, LITO (NPC)
  
  MACALINTAL, MACAROMY (IND)
  
  MALLILLIN, EMILY (IND)
  
  MANGONDATO, FAISAL (IND)
  
  MANGUDADATU, DONG (PDPLBN)
  
  MANICAD, JIGGY (IND)
  
  MARCOS, IMEE (NP)
  
  MATULA, JOSE SONNY (WPP)
  
  MENIANO, LUTHER (WPP)
  
  MONTAÑO, ALLAN (IND)
  
  NALLIW, JOAN SHEELAH (IND)
  
  ONG, DOC WILLIE (LAKAS)
  
  OSMEÑA, SERGE (IND)
  
  PADILLA, DADO (PFP)
  
  PIMENTEL, KOKO (PDPLBN)
  
  POE, GRACE (IND)
  
  ROLEDA, DAN KAIBIGAN (UNA)
  
  ROXAS, MAR (LP)
  
  SAHIDULLA, LADY ANN (KDP)
  
  TAÑADA, LORENZO ERIN TAPAT (LP)
  
  TOLENTINO, FRANCIS (PDPLBN)
  
  VALDES, BUTCH (KDP)
  
  VILLAR, CYNTHIA (NP)

Source philstar.com (http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/02/06/1891374/list-certified-senatorial-candidates-2019-elections)

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I hardly know the majority of them, and so the voters too. These surveys help the voters know whom to choose. From what I see the majority of the voter doesn't have time to dig the background of each candidate and just go with the survey.

Kilala ko halos kalahati sa list. And I know some of the candidates very well, already have my list on who to vote though it is partially complete.

As a voter it is a responsibility to know each candidate who you think will help the country. Irresponsible sa paningin ko ang botante na pipiliin ang kandidato dahil yun ang pinili ng nakakarami without having to do a little background check about the candidate's profile(others call it 'bobotante'.)

Yung kalagayan ng bansa ang nakataya na hawak mo bilang botante, voting wise should not be taken for granted.

Pero kung totoo nga na karamihan sa Pilipino ay bumabase sa kung sino ang sikat sa nakakarami, yun din siguro ang dahilan kung bakit may mga kandidatong nakakabalik pa sa gobyerno at may lakas ng loob na muling tumakbo sa kabila ng napatunayang pagiging corrupt at magnanakaw nito. Ang masaklap, may mga sumusuporta pa din sa mga lantad na magnanakaw ng kaban ng bayan.

Good examples:
Bong Revilla
Jinggoy Estrada
Erap Estarada
Gloria Arroyo
Juan Ponce Enrile

Ifinalize na natin mamaya siguro mga hapon, so far ito ang naisip ko base sa mga inputs and feedbacks sa thread na to.

- Escrow will be bL4nkcode (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=765632)
- 0.0015btc entry fee per set of prediction ( 1 user can have upto 3 sets of prediction pero 0.0015btc each pa din bawat prediction
- Winner takes all, incase of tie split equally yung premyo sa mga winners
- Point system: 1 point per correct prediction sa senator na papasok sa top 12, kung tama ang predicted position number ay 2 points.
- Until April 30 lang open ang submission ng prediction para maiwasan yung mga naghihintay lang sa mga lalabas na survey few days before the day of election at lahat nag entry fee na nasend sa escrow address ay hindi na pwede bawiin kahit pa close na ang pag submit ng entries.
- Sa May 1 gagawa ako ng isang post na hindi pwede iedit para sa listahan ng mga valid submissions.

Good, after you finalize the rules of the game, please contact the escrow so we can start sending the amount required to join the competition.

Actually bro, it depends on the survey. Can you tell your source in here? Kung san mo nakuha yung survey na yan. Kasi, sa research nakadepende sa population at sa dami din ng population yan e. Like nung nagpasurvey sa Ateneo, puro mga dilawan lumabas sa survey. Since si ex-PNoy graduated dyan, yun talaga dala nila. And nakita ko per vote nila dun sa senators if narerecall ko nang maayos mga nasa 290 yung average. Hindi lang naman kasi nakabase sa survey yun eh di lang naman sila yung mga boboto. There are 55,000,000 voters in the Philippines and magsusurvey ka sa 300 na katao? Pero I want to know that survey since parang yung sinasabi mo is 100% accurate based on history.

I know half of them I think. And if that's the thinking of most Filipino voters, wala talagang mangyayare na sa bansa natin :D. We need background checking, kaya dapat maging mulat tayo sa katotohanan.

Bobotante lang boboto sa mga to. Alam naman natin yung mga naging kaso nang mga to. Pero, this is the problem of PDuterte parang nililigtas nya yung mga magnanakaw sa kaban ng bayan. Ewan ko sa inyo pero hindi ako mag titiwala sa mga to.

Looks good to me. Okay na yung rule na ganyan. Probably nice twist yung predicted position. [/list]

Kung lahat ng Pilipino ay may pananaw katulad ng sa iyo brader, maunlad na bansa na sana ang Pilipinas ngayon pero masakit isipin na ginagawang negosyong ang politics dito sa Pilipinas instead of serbisyo. Your list is a bit short as we all know that almost all of the politicians are corrupt. Sino ba naman ang gumagastos ng milyon-milyon para sa posisyon na ang sweldo ay below a hundred thousand pesos.

But the way i see it, political landscape of the Philippines is slowly changing because of social media. Everyone can voice out his/her opinion through it if he want. Mainstream media is manipulated as they are centralized.

@Lassie, any update on the escrow?
It would be nice if you can follow up bL4nkcode, so we will see the address on where to send.

Meron na dito sa official betting thread natin kakapost lang ni blankcode kagabi

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5130088.0