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Bitcoin => Electrum => Topic started by: AB de Royse777 on April 08, 2019, 03:14:25 PM



Title: Remove TX(!!!)
Post by: AB de Royse777 on April 08, 2019, 03:14:25 PM
I just learnt about the recent ddos attack. I hope they fix it soon however here I have discovered something which I have never seen before. Please check the image below.

https://i.imgur.com/viFwyBO.png

1. See the icon. It's new to me. What is this?
2. When I right click on the row it allows me to remove the transaction (although I did not removed it coz this is an important tx for me)

https://i.imgur.com/XNl7Brw.png

I thought once you broadcast a tx you can not reverse/delete it.

Looking for some answers.

Cheers :-)


Title: Re: Remove TX(!!!)
Post by: AB de Royse777 on April 08, 2019, 03:16:50 PM
By the way, I only see it when the sync status is active,

https://i.imgur.com/lW2Scr9.png

It keeps going on/off the sync. When the status is off then it gives the normal status of unconfirmed tx.


Edit:

This is how I see in the block explorer

https://i.imgur.com/ORNI0Od.png


Title: Re: Remove TX(!!!)
Post by: TryNinja on April 08, 2019, 03:27:33 PM
Local means that the transaction hasn’t been sent yet. Basically, you created the transaction but didn’t broadcast it because of the synchronization issues.

Maybe you tried to make the tx while you weren’t connected to the server (due to the DDoS), then you broadcasted it when they went up, and your wallet still thinks you didn’t. If you can see the tx in a block explorer, then it definitely was broadcasted.


Title: Re: Remove TX(!!!)
Post by: AB de Royse777 on April 08, 2019, 04:09:07 PM
Local means that the transaction hasn’t been sent yet. Basically, you created the transaction but didn’t broadcast it because of the synchronization issues.

Maybe you tried to make the tx while you weren’t connected to the server (due to the DDoS), then you broadcasted it when they went up, and your wallet still thinks you didn’t. If you can see the tx in a block explorer, then it definitely was broadcasted.
I received the fund on the other side long ago. This local things were showing for long time. Going on and off.

I think it's something to do with the Electrum itself. I am not sure what if I was deleted the tx then would that really delete the tx from the chain (I think it would not since it was broadcasted or I would not see this on the other side)? Since I have not deleted it so there is no way to know what would happen.


Title: Re: Remove TX(!!!)
Post by: BitMaxz on April 08, 2019, 04:31:27 PM
I received the fund on the other side long ago. This local things were showing for long time. Going on and off.

I think it's something to do with the Electrum itself. I am not sure what if I was deleted the tx then would that really delete the tx from the chain (I think it would not since it was broadcasted or I would not see this on the other side)? Since I have not deleted it so there is no way to know what would happen.
If you see a transaction like from the image above "local, rbf something" you made a transaction offline it means it's not broadcasted yet you can delete if you don't want to broadcast it and it shouldn't show the transaction to any block explorer.

If you having issue in syncing you can follow this guide that I found here  [Guide]How to make safe transaction using Electrum and broadcast it to Coinb.in (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129459)


Title: Re: Remove TX(!!!)
Post by: AB de Royse777 on April 08, 2019, 05:05:35 PM
~snip~
If you see a transaction like from the image above "local, rbf something" you made a transaction offline it means it's not broadcasted yet you can delete if you don't want to broadcast it and it shouldn't show the transaction to any block explorer.

If you having issue in syncing you can follow this guide that I found here  [Guide]How to make safe transaction using Electrum and broadcast it to Coinb.in (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129459)
Thanks for the tutorial link at the bottom.

By the way, my transaction was showing offline but it was broadcasted long ago like I said on my last post. I already received the coin on the other side while it was still showing that I can delete the tx.


Title: Re: Remove TX(!!!)
Post by: TryNinja on April 08, 2019, 09:44:50 PM
By the way, my transaction was showing offline but it was broadcasted long ago like I said on my last post. I already received the coin on the other side while it was still showing that I can delete the tx.
Rest assured knowing that no transaction can be deleted once confirmed. That's most likely just a visual error on Electrum's side (thinking that the tx hasn't been broadcasted nor confirmed because of the server's connection failing).


Title: Re: Remove TX(!!!)
Post by: elda34b on April 09, 2019, 12:21:16 AM
By the way, my transaction was showing offline but it was broadcasted long ago like I said on my last post. I already received the coin on the other side while it was still showing that I can delete the tx.

If you're still unsure, then you can delete the TX and see what happens. Most likely there won't be anything happening because that TX was confirmed already (according to your info).


Title: Re: Remove TX(!!!)
Post by: HCP on April 09, 2019, 02:48:09 AM
It's just a sync error... It's also possible that a server you were connected to was lagging, so it didn't know about your transaction... hence why it was marked as "local"... as your wallet was unable to confirm that the transaction had been broadcast.

Once you are able to get connected and synced, the transaction status should update correctly. Have you tried manually connecting to different servers to try and find one that works?


Title: Re: Remove TX(!!!)
Post by: AB de Royse777 on April 10, 2019, 10:19:50 AM
~snip~
That's most likely just a visual error on Electrum's side (thinking that the tx hasn't been broadcasted nor confirmed because of the server's connection failing).
I realised the same.

~snip~

If you're still unsure, then you can delete the TX and see what happens. Most likely there won't be anything happening because that TX was confirmed already (according to your info).

Unfortunately I did not do that because the tx was important to me. I paid it for a service to buy.

~snip~

Once you are able to get connected and synced, the transaction status should update correctly. Have you tried manually connecting to different servers to try and find one that works?
I did not try this as well. The tx confirmed anyway.


Title: Re: Remove TX(!!!)
Post by: nc50lc on April 11, 2019, 02:12:02 AM
~snip~
If you're still unsure, then you can delete the TX and see what happens. Most likely there won't be anything happening because that TX was confirmed already (according to your info).

Unfortunately I did not do that because the tx was important to me. I paid it for a service to buy.
You can delete it without any issues, once you get to connect to a server and successfully synchronized, the (confirmed) transaction will instantly pop-in to the history.
Just manually select server if you need to sync right away.

That's basically the same when you restore a SEED on a newly installed Electrum.
The history is empty at start but after synchronization, all will be automatically restored....