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Title: Lost coins?
Post by: Lund94 on April 09, 2019, 07:31:19 AM
Hi guys

First of all - i haven't been sending anything to a wrong address, I Always Double check the addresses if not tripple check  ;D

But!
I've been thinking about all those post about people sending their coins to a wrong address - isn't there a way to fix this?  :)

What happens if you type in a wrong address and send it? - You probably just lost your coins. Someone might be lucky enough to have this address, otherwise your coins would be stuck in wallet controlled by no one.
Im not sure how the delegation of addresses works, but could i end up with a wallet with x amount of a coin in it just by creating new wallets?

Wallet addresses is a hexadecimal number, which cointains more possible addresses, than humans existing on the earth - Of course not 100% correct beacuse a coins address whould be same lenght +-
which will restrict the possible amount. Why? Because of safety? Or maybe the posibilty to scale the network?

is there any coins with some kind of function that checks if the recieving wallet address has ever been active? If not - Why? would it ruin any kind of privacy/anonymity?



Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: jhenfelipe on April 09, 2019, 02:31:56 PM
People (commonly) sent their coins to a wrong address not because of mistyping it, but because of a copy paste malware that automatically changes the address that has been copied to clipboard (from the recipient's address to the hacker's address). Having an anti malware software on your device would help and of course always double check the address before making the transaction.

Content of this might be helpful to you -> What if you send Bitcoin to a non-existent address? (http://awildduck.com/?p=5117)


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: magpie_lover on April 09, 2019, 03:44:19 PM

Wallet addresses is a hexadecimal number, which cointains more possible addresses, than humans existing on the earth - Of course not 100% correct beacuse a coins address whould be same lenght +-
which will restrict the possible amount. Why? Because of safety? Or maybe the posibilty to scale the network?

is there any coins with some kind of function that checks if the recieving wallet address has ever been active? If not - Why? would it ruin any kind of privacy/anonymity?


Depends on the blockchain network and the wallets that you're using to send your coins. In case of Bitcoin, the address is a PubKeyHash encoded in Base58 with a version value and a checksum. All bitcoin wallets check if addresses are valid, so in the event of a typo, funds won't be sent.  In Ethereum's case, EIP-55 (https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/blob/master/EIPS/eip-55.md) addresses checksum validation, but not sure if all wallets/exchanges support it.

In summary, one could say the probability of individual sending funds to an invalid address (due to typos, empty space, copy paste errors etc.) is very low as the wallets & exchanges mostly implement these checks and lets the users know.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: palle11 on April 09, 2019, 03:58:40 PM
is there any coins with some kind of function that checks if the recieving wallet address has ever been active? If not - Why? would it ruin any kind of privacy/anonymity?

On the contrary, what I know of on this is a wallet that does a thing like that. The coinomi wallet does something like that. If you input a receiver address and if the coin selected does not correspond with the receiver address, you can't send out.

You can download coinomi from play store.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Awesomus Maximus on April 09, 2019, 04:00:39 PM
Someone might be lucky enough to have this address, otherwise your coins would be stuck in wallet controlled by no one.
Nope, they are lost. The chances of someone actually having the address are very very very low, practically non-existent. Like you said, they are in a wallet controlled by no one, and if all the people in the world opened 1000 new wallets daily the next 1000 years, the chances of hitting that address would still be non-existent. So the coins are lost.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Adriano2010 on April 09, 2019, 04:01:11 PM
Sometimes happen, people send either their coins from bitcoin to a BCH exchange address and if exchange not offer option to recover their bitcoin then they lose their bitcoin, people should check more times what writes and only after send bitcoin, also there is a malware which can make copy and address and when paste the address is the hacker address.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: pinkpanther03 on April 09, 2019, 04:05:00 PM
I don't that lost coins can be recovered. As of now, there is no app that will help you out. Those apps saying they can, most likely they are malwares designed to steal more of your coins. It's really hard to trust especially apps pretending to help you. Start checking your computer of malwares.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: diazepam666 on April 09, 2019, 04:21:30 PM
Hi guys

First of all - i haven't been sending anything to a wrong address, I Always Double check the addresses if not tripple check  ;D

But!
I've been thinking about all those post about people sending their coins to a wrong address - isn't there a way to fix this?  :)

What happens if you type in a wrong address and send it? - You probably just lost your coins. Someone might be lucky enough to have this address, otherwise your coins would be stuck in wallet controlled by no one.
Im not sure how the delegation of addresses works, but could i end up with a wallet with x amount of a coin in it just by creating new wallets?

Wallet addresses is a hexadecimal number, which cointains more possible addresses, than humans existing on the earth - Of course not 100% correct beacuse a coins address whould be same lenght +-
which will restrict the possible amount. Why? Because of safety? Or maybe the posibilty to scale the network?

is there any coins with some kind of function that checks if the recieving wallet address has ever been active? If not - Why? would it ruin any kind of privacy/anonymity?



Centralized form of finance only allow you to make the transaction as well as reversal of the payment. When there is the lose happened in any crypto currency. There is no possibility to recover that fund maximum you can track the transaction where it goes and request the address owner using donation request.
It is all for maintaining anonymity only.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Rogkim1 on April 09, 2019, 04:28:10 PM
Hi guys

First of all - i haven't been sending anything to a wrong address, I Always Double check the addresses if not tripple check  ;D

But!
I've been thinking about all those post about people sending their coins to a wrong address - isn't there a way to fix this?  :)

What happens if you type in a wrong address and send it? - You probably just lost your coins. Someone might be lucky enough to have this address, otherwise your coins would be stuck in wallet controlled by no one.
Im not sure how the delegation of addresses works, but could i end up with a wallet with x amount of a coin in it just by creating new wallets?

Wallet addresses is a hexadecimal number, which cointains more possible addresses, than humans existing on the earth - Of course not 100% correct beacuse a coins address whould be same lenght +-
which will restrict the possible amount. Why? Because of safety? Or maybe the posibilty to scale the network?

is there any coins with some kind of function that checks if the recieving wallet address has ever been active? If not - Why? would it ruin any kind of privacy/anonymity?



Most cryptocurrency has decentralization and no one can access another wallet, even the developers of this or that coin. Therefore, if you send your coins to another wallet, then you can forget about them forever.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: HyughA on April 09, 2019, 04:33:09 PM
hello, don't get your address wrong, but if you send ETH to the BTC address, of course you can't, both wallet and market devices can't describe the address if you use the wrong wallet address


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: funchiestz on April 09, 2019, 05:07:04 PM
My friends and I have had a few bad examples. First of all, it is very difficult to find and find solutions. In the Forum, it will be nice to give a title and detailed information to the experts, and it will be nice if fixed to the head.

In general, such errors cannot be corrected! Although it is said to be done, it is very difficult to get back. I mean, it's always good to be careful.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: budiarmed on April 09, 2019, 05:42:48 PM
I think you should try to forget your coins are lost due to carelessness in entering the address, and from that be careful and always check it first.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: slashz9 on April 09, 2019, 06:28:00 PM
i think if you already send your coin to wrong then can't be refund, otherwise if the receive want to send it back to you.
i have experience when send coin to contract address, and my coin always there, because wrong send type of coin not big amount, but still hurt  :-[


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: asdlolciterquit on April 09, 2019, 06:42:21 PM
is there any coins with some kind of function that checks if the recieving wallet address has ever been active? If not - Why? would it ruin any kind of privacy/anonymity?

On the contrary, what I know of on this is a wallet that does a thing like that. The coinomi wallet does something like that. If you input a receiver address and if the coin selected does not correspond with the receiver address, you can't send out.

You can download coinomi from play store.

yep, this might be helpfull, but i think that the real problem if i send, for example, 0.5btc to a btc address, but not the btc address i wanted!

i think that, banks, will always be better in this :(


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: pishite on April 09, 2019, 06:51:59 PM
If the coins are sent to an other address, the coins will not be returned. As far as I know, there is no way to return the coins back. The only solution to this issue is smart contracts, you can implement it this way: after sending the recipient must confirm that he received the coin, if not, the coins are returned to the owner.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: cryptobae10 on April 09, 2019, 07:02:59 PM
Hi guys

First of all - i haven't been sending anything to a wrong address, I Always Double check the addresses if not tripple check  ;D

But!
I've been thinking about all those post about people sending their coins to a wrong address - isn't there a way to fix this?  :)

What happens if you type in a wrong address and send it? - You probably just lost your coins. Someone might be lucky enough to have this address, otherwise your coins would be stuck in wallet controlled by no one.
Im not sure how the delegation of addresses works, but could i end up with a wallet with x amount of a coin in it just by creating new wallets?

Wallet addresses is a hexadecimal number, which cointains more possible addresses, than humans existing on the earth - Of course not 100% correct beacuse a coins address whould be same lenght +-
which will restrict the possible amount. Why? Because of safety? Or maybe the posibilty to scale the network?

is there any coins with some kind of function that checks if the recieving wallet address has ever been active? If not - Why? would it ruin any kind of privacy/anonymity?



I think there is little that can be done to this issue
Because crypto wallet app rejects address that are not in correlation with the token
I.e you can send bitcoin to eth wallet

But in a situation where the alphabets are mixed up ; there are little that can be done


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Lund94 on April 09, 2019, 08:31:29 PM
Nice to get your pov guys.. as i mentioned i didnt lose any coins, and i didnt mean any specific Coin, but i think that its a huge problem for the crypto world, that you're unable to retrieve lost coins..  especially when almost every banks areal able to revert transactions!

I mean if we want to digitalize currencies and make them anonymous, we really need to make it easy for "normal" people to use them, and also "safe" to use and idiot proof ;).

Im working with IT and believe me you'd get surprised how stupid people are in general when they're using PC's - so imagine if You ask them to transfer some kind of digital currency to a digital wallet with 20+ characters - it's easy for me to Imagine how many coins would get lost   ::) ;D


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Twinkledoe on April 09, 2019, 08:51:30 PM
Nice to get your pov guys.. as i mentioned i didnt lose any coins, and i didnt mean any specific Coin, but i think that its a huge problem for the crypto world, that you're unable to retrieve lost coins..  especially when almost every banks areal able to revert transactions!

I mean if we want to digitalize currencies and make them anonymous, we really need to make it easy for "normal" people to use them, and also "safe" to use and idiot proof ;).

Im working with IT and believe me you'd get surprised how stupid people are in general when they're using PC's - so imagine if You ask them to transfer some kind of digital currency to a digital wallet with 20+ characters - it's easy for me to Imagine how many coins would get lost   ::) ;D

This is very true. Some people who are not yet familiar with bitcoin will be scared if they will see their wallet address as combination of numbers and letters, they don't even know what to do next. Maybe, this is the reason why some people are still hesitant to create their account in their local crypto exchange. Non techie persons will find it hard at the start. They need to be familiar how it works first and read more before telling to the world that he has bitcoin addy.  ;D


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: mrdeposit on April 09, 2019, 08:52:37 PM
As far as I know, if public keys are the same, it may be possible. Also, if this address belongs to the exchange, it is not possible to access the private key, and and you can not do without private key.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: cryptjh on April 09, 2019, 08:58:24 PM
If your wallet has sent the coins then you can't get them back, that the whole idea with no double spending, that the bitcoin network are build on. If you copy an address and your missing a letter, the bitcoin network will most like not send your bitcoins, their need to be a valid address to send your coins too, if you enter a bitcoin Cash or litecoin address, your coin will most likely be lost also.

It's really important to check the address when you send bitcoins or any other cryptos, I always double check the first 5-6 letters and the last 5-6 letters, to make sure they match, sometimes I even check the whole address.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: hyunee on April 09, 2019, 09:01:26 PM
isn't there a way to fix this?  :)
There isn't a way to fix this. Once you sent your funds to another address that is not belonged to you or not your intent to send to, then that's your fault and you technically lost the money. There's no way in fixing this kind of stuff.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: fallensky7 on April 09, 2019, 09:28:48 PM
I think that there are no such coins that check the address of the wallet before sending! At least I have not heard of such. If sent to the wrong address, you can simply forget about the coins. The recipient will be the user who will receive the key from the address in the future.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: ukloon on April 09, 2019, 09:37:51 PM
The odds of getting some free coins by accident is so high that you have a better chance of winning the lottery. It would be good if wallets implemented a verifier to see if the address is at least a valid one, if not the right one.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: miropp on April 09, 2019, 09:58:09 PM
When the page is automatically translated in the browser, the wallet address changes. Some capital letters become small. I had this problem and because of that another person was unable to send me tokens. So I think that if you send a coin to a wallet that does not exist, it will not work.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Ultimist on April 09, 2019, 10:15:17 PM
In theory, there is a probability that you can guess someone's wallet address and send him some coin. But the question is whether it will be possible to send coins to a non-existent wallet. I don't think we can do that.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Brainnin on April 09, 2019, 10:41:35 PM
Nothing like checking receivers address, only if the address does not correlate with the type of coin you want to send e.g trying to send eth to a btc address, it won't go, apart from that, nothing can be done to stop it.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Febo on April 10, 2019, 01:00:35 AM
Hi guys

First of all - i haven't been sending anything to a wrong address, I Always Double check the addresses if not tripple check  ;D

But!
I've been thinking about all those post about people sending their coins to a wrong address - isn't there a way to fix this?  :)

What happens if you type in a wrong address and send it? - You probably just lost your coins. Someone might be lucky enough to have this address, otherwise your coins would be stuck in wallet controlled by no one.
Im not sure how the delegation of addresses works, but could i end up with a wallet with x amount of a coin in it just by creating new wallets?

Wallet addresses is a hexadecimal number, which cointains more possible addresses, than humans existing on the earth - Of course not 100% correct beacuse a coins address whould be same lenght +-
which will restrict the possible amount. Why? Because of safety? Or maybe the posibilty to scale the network?

is there any coins with some kind of function that checks if the recieving wallet address has ever been active? If not - Why? would it ruin any kind of privacy/anonymity?


You cant send to non existing address. So if you made a mistake like that is impossible. You can send on wrong address. So you simply need to be careful about that. If you want Bitcoin where you can change your mind, then that is not Bitcoin anymore.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: coinsycrip09 on April 10, 2019, 03:09:18 AM
isn't there a way to fix this?  :)
There isn't a way to fix this. Once you sent your funds to another address that is not belonged to you or not your intent to send to, then that's your fault and you technically lost the money. There's no way in fixing this kind of stuff.
yeah, i think like that too.
that is why we have to check it carefully before sending the token or coin to the destination address.

before sending anything, i always check it repeatedly so that there are no errors. because if just a little wrong, everything will disappear and can not be repaired again or returned to its original place.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Malsetid on April 10, 2019, 03:25:56 AM
Hi guys

First of all - i haven't been sending anything to a wrong address, I Always Double check the addresses if not tripple check  ;D

But!
I've been thinking about all those post about people sending their coins to a wrong address - isn't there a way to fix this?  :)

What happens if you type in a wrong address and send it? - You probably just lost your coins. Someone might be lucky enough to have this address, otherwise your coins would be stuck in wallet controlled by no one.
Im not sure how the delegation of addresses works, but could i end up with a wallet with x amount of a coin in it just by creating new wallets?

Wallet addresses is a hexadecimal number, which cointains more possible addresses, than humans existing on the earth - Of course not 100% correct beacuse a coins address whould be same lenght +-
which will restrict the possible amount. Why? Because of safety? Or maybe the posibilty to scale the network?

is there any coins with some kind of function that checks if the recieving wallet address has ever been active? If not - Why? would it ruin any kind of privacy/anonymity?



It may be possible to randomly receive coins in your wallet if you create one but the probability is low. How often to people send coins to mistakenly to the same btc address. It's almost impossible bro. And i don't think at the moment there's a fix for sending to the wrong addresses. Best is to just make sure that every detail is correct before hitting that send button.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Perie200 on April 10, 2019, 03:51:27 AM
The most important thing is to carefully read the terms of the transfer of coins, they are different for all. I thus lost 1000 XLM :( when translated to the exchange, all because I did not entered the word verification. It was my first experience with the translation of this coin, it gave me knowledge, now I check the addresses three times and carefully read the terms of the translations.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Ararbermas on April 10, 2019, 03:52:30 AM
There's no way for it to recover mate because its already confirmed it to be sent to another wallet. even though you contact the support it's useless.  Much better to check it carefully not just triple time which is make sure all is correct.  

Actually copy pasting will be valid and trustworthy way .but im wondering why there are some ppl always sending to a wrong address, probably typing manually is the reason? Lol it's very risky.  


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: TIDOVEE on April 10, 2019, 03:58:58 AM
Most people lost their coin as a result of errors during copying and pasting their ETH wallet address, the digits may become distorted and therefore goes to the wrong recipient or do not deliver anywhere at all.some even lost the coin during exchange. I have lost coin during exchange just because I wanted it to attain certain amount over a given time. Retrieving lost coin is not always feasible or easy,so it is better one try all not to experience it.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Woolles890 on April 10, 2019, 04:25:23 AM
Indeed, playing in crypto is not easy if it has been sent incorrectly, the coin cannot return, it is automatic. So be careful for this, mistakes made must be a lesson so as not to repeat itself.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: michellee on April 10, 2019, 05:14:34 AM
When you send to the wrong address, then it will not arrive at the right address. That is simple. Just imagine if you send a letter with the wrong address, will it arrive in the right address? I guess not ;D

So, a double check is a must for every people who want to send any coins and not just bitcoin only. I don't know if there is a way to reverse the transaction especially if the transaction is already getting 1 confirmation at the network.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: sircy on April 10, 2019, 07:08:27 AM
This is a risk that we must bear and your digital assets will never come back again. This is the same as what I experienced that I sent a coin in the wrong wallet. This made me have a very important lesson for me. We must check before we make a transaction.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Lund94 on April 10, 2019, 07:34:48 AM
There isn't a way to fix this. Once you sent your funds to another address that is not belonged to you or not your intent to send to, then that's your fault and you technically lost the money. There's no way in fixing this kind of stuff.

This is what i meant by fix it  :D

It would be good if wallets implemented a verifier to see if the address is at least a valid one, if not the right one.

it really a big hurdle for the cryptoworld that techdummies feel unsafe using cryptocoins/wallets - because theres alot of them!
If you really want your coins to grow, you also gotta target the techdummies!


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: SaRmY on April 10, 2019, 07:45:19 AM
Oh people inadvertently lose $ 300,000))) And you say the coins are not sent there. Before we take any action, we need to make sure 10 times that everything has been done correctly. After all, this is infinite space and no one will return the money to you.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Lund94 on April 10, 2019, 07:54:29 AM
Oh people inadvertently lose $ 300,000))) And you say the coins are not sent there. Before we take any action, we need to make sure 10 times that everything has been done correctly. After all, this is infinite space and no one will return the money to you.

Exactly! - But its also one of the flaws in the crypto world! Lets say that the future payment method would be e.g btc worldwide for every human on the earth - its easy for me to see alot of lost bitcoins flying around in the network because the "techdummies" who needs to transfer lets just say 10$ wont check the address 10 times.

If its not easy to use, then you lose a lot of potential users.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Peruvyn on April 10, 2019, 12:31:19 PM
I think there is a way to fix it but it will all depend on which address and platformsm you sent it too. In 2017,I rushed to withdraw digibyte from Poloniex to my Coinomi wallet and instead of copying digibyte address, I copied the address of digitalcoin. I contact Coinomi and they told me what to do to recover it back which I did and I get the coin back.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: jossiel on April 10, 2019, 12:46:15 PM
You can check that address if it has a recent transaction through blockchain itself and that's the explorer. But there's no way to know if that address is active or will have some sort of label as 'active address' besides that.

Most transactions that went wrong were probably a victim of a copy paste malware that pastes the hackers bitcoin address whenever you copy your address as receiver.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Thomas-s on April 10, 2019, 12:51:17 PM
I think there is a way to fix it but it will all depend on which address and platformsm you sent it too. In 2017,I rushed to withdraw digibyte from Poloniex to my Coinomi wallet and instead of copying digibyte address, I copied the address of digitalcoin. I contact Coinomi and they told me what to do to recover it back which I did and I get the coin back.
you are lucky that you were able to return your funds. Typically, the blockchain does not forgive such errors. After all, the essence of the blockchain is that the transaction cannot be returned if it is gone


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: pushups44 on April 10, 2019, 12:53:19 PM
While blockchain has many advantages, one of the disadvantages is that transactions are irreversible. So coins sent to the wrong address are guaranteed lost forever unless the recipient is kind enough to send them back.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: julius caesar on April 10, 2019, 01:30:55 PM
Hi guys

First of all - i haven't been sending anything to a wrong address, I Always Double check the addresses if not tripple check  ;D

But!
I've been thinking about all those post about people sending their coins to a wrong address - isn't there a way to fix this?  :)

What happens if you type in a wrong address and send it? - You probably just lost your coins. Someone might be lucky enough to have this address, otherwise your coins would be stuck in wallet controlled by no one.
Im not sure how the delegation of addresses works, but could i end up with a wallet with x amount of a coin in it just by creating new wallets?

Wallet addresses is a hexadecimal number, which cointains more possible addresses, than humans existing on the earth - Of course not 100% correct beacuse a coins address whould be same lenght +-
which will restrict the possible amount. Why? Because of safety? Or maybe the posibilty to scale the network?

is there any coins with some kind of function that checks if the recieving wallet address has ever been active? If not - Why? would it ruin any kind of privacy/anonymity?



I am thinking about this also, but I can see as hashcodes and hexadecimal number works, there is a definite and absolute address that can be created. In that case, if a user is just new to the wallet that he creates, there is a possibility that it has already a balance from a miss transaction that has occurred before. I am just wondering if, the wallet address'es length is fixed, what will happen if you send an amount to a wallet address that has a different length for ex. you've deleted a character on it?


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: sujonali1819 on April 10, 2019, 02:32:19 PM
I did not see any way to recover the fund if already send to another/wrong address. I have seen many people to post in this forum about the issue. But all people said the amount is totally lost and there is no way to recover it.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Ains_sama on April 10, 2019, 02:44:12 PM
I have experienced something like that with the mistake that I sent a coin to my wallet that was not my goal, and that was the luck of the person who got my coin, and I don't think it will be able to return.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: poodle63 on April 10, 2019, 02:55:27 PM
I think there is a way to fix it but it will all depend on which address and platformsm you sent it too. In 2017,I rushed to withdraw digibyte from Poloniex to my Coinomi wallet and instead of copying digibyte address, I copied the address of digitalcoin. I contact Coinomi and they told me what to do to recover it back which I did and I get the coin back.
you are lucky that you were able to return your funds. Typically, the blockchain does not forgive such errors. After all, the essence of the blockchain is that the transaction cannot be returned if it is gone
I guess coinomi was giving him back his amount that has already taken from the coinomi's fund. Or if digital coin use the same blockchain as digibyte and it can be recovered easily. Basically, that depends on the platform itself.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: ChiNgadOr on April 10, 2019, 02:57:57 PM
Today another hack.. Electrum wallet was attacked and millions were stolen.. once again, time to take this in mind!
no web, no desktop, no phone, no exchange... but hardware ALWAYS! keep your coins safely and you wont need to worry for these issues


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: znation on April 10, 2019, 03:05:13 PM
There are many cases of sending because the computer is infected with malware and changes itself so it is difficult to avoid starting. If you rush without checking carefully, it will be the same, so be careful when doing everything.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Rogkim1 on April 10, 2019, 03:06:22 PM
Yes, because there are no empty addresses. A wallet can be created at any address. Therefore, if you sent your money to the wrong place, they came to the wallet to another person and you lost it forever.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: alonelyorange on April 10, 2019, 03:12:08 PM
If you are sending your bitcoin or altcoin assets but you use wrong wallet you have forget it because impossible could take back your bitcoin or your altcoin, its not other digital e currency could cancel back your fund.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: terrorJR on April 10, 2019, 03:12:38 PM
I have experienced something like that with the mistake that I sent a coin to my wallet that was not my goal, and that was the luck of the person who got my coin, and I don't think it will be able to return.

The same thing has been experienced by my token that has been sent to someone else's address, it will not be possible to return to it only to explain and will not be repeated again.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Sithara007 on April 10, 2019, 03:21:24 PM
These are pretty basic questions. If you are sending the coins to someone else's wallet by mistake, then there is no way to recover them. Because unlike Paypal, the transactions involving Bitcoin are irreversible. At the most, you can contact the owner of the other wallet (by a signed message) and explain them what happened. If you are lucky, then they may transfer the coins back to you.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Wayrey2020 on April 10, 2019, 04:18:43 PM
I believe every wallet and site holding coins always has this copy space and possibly all phones and computers are also able to copy so why do you think of typing the address.
What am always worried about is, that there should rejection of the transaction if possible there is excess digit or incomplete wallet address, it's fine that way i guess.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: kodtycoon on April 10, 2019, 04:29:56 PM
sending to the wrong address is purely a user error, usually due to lack of sleep or being exposed to a malware virus that our friend has explained. If you not want to be wrong always check the start and end of a recipient address, you will not experience sending problems In addition you must use anti virus to overcome malware problems


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: leavolnhals on April 10, 2019, 05:48:41 PM
The blockchain has supported us too much and the copy address is a very easy step. We need to get used to it and be careful in trading.
We can't ask for anything more when we can move from one country to another with only $ 0.3.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: ajdaj on April 10, 2019, 06:17:25 PM
sending to the wrong address is purely a user error, usually due to lack of sleep or being exposed to a malware virus that our friend has explained. If you not want to be wrong always check the start and end of a recipient address, you will not experience sending problems In addition you must use anti virus to overcome malware problems
if this happens, then it is necessary to forget those Coins that have been transferred to another address. I know only one case of refund to the owner and this happened after the update of St. Petersburg. But these are very large companies with a large amount of funds.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: jumiapaul on April 10, 2019, 06:49:03 PM
Hi guys

First of all - i haven't been sending anything to a wrong address, I Always Double check the addresses if not tripple check  ;D

But!
I've been thinking about all those post about people sending their coins to a wrong address - isn't there a way to fix this?  :)

What happens if you type in a wrong address and send it? - You probably just lost your coins. Someone might be lucky enough to have this address, otherwise your coins would be stuck in wallet controlled by no one.
Im not sure how the delegation of addresses works, but could i end up with a wallet with x amount of a coin in it just by creating new wallets?

Wallet addresses is a hexadecimal number, which cointains more possible addresses, than humans existing on the earth - Of course not 100% correct beacuse a coins address whould be same lenght +-
which will restrict the possible amount. Why? Because of safety? Or maybe the posibilty to scale the network?

is there any coins with some kind of function that checks if the recieving wallet address has ever been active? If not - Why? would it ruin any kind of privacy/anonymity?



When people say they sent bitcoin to a foreign address, in most cases, the wallet belongs to a hacker. I've personally had an experience when my ethereum left my wallet to a foreign number without my approval. On reviewing the wallet, I found out that many people have almost similar complaints. And the hacker, has consistently stolen from people when they are sending to other wallet.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: raven7886 on April 11, 2019, 01:11:35 PM
I think there is a way to fix it but it will all depend on which address and platformsm you sent it too. In 2017,I rushed to withdraw digibyte from Poloniex to my Coinomi wallet and instead of copying digibyte address, I copied the address of digitalcoin. I contact Coinomi and they told me what to do to recover it back which I did and I get the coin back.
I never knew this was actually possible, since it is a decentralized market, I didn’t know we still have a third party that could pull this string, reason why I am shocked to know this is because I remembered there was this bounty program I participated in and I think they mistakenly paid us all far more than what they meant to pay, they couldn’t do much about it except to send us a mail requesting for a refund of part of the coins transferred.

So if it was possible to do, why can’t all exchanges to put these tools too in place like coinomi to be able to recover lost coins or stolen coins. 


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Osarman on April 11, 2019, 09:11:04 PM
I don't think there can be a function to check if the receiving address has been active unless you are going to create a centralized blockchain which is totally against the idea of crypto entirely, crypto is being your own bank and being able to double check an address before sending is one of the responsibility you have to do once you signed up to make use of crypto, we just need to be more careful when we make use of the crypto platform so that we don't fall victim.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: De_nis on April 11, 2019, 09:20:34 PM
I was wrong several times when I didn’t verify that the token belongs to the ERC20 standard and after sending to MEW I lost my tokens (


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: fosco333 on April 12, 2019, 02:49:53 AM
Yes, double or triple checking your receiver address before sending any coins is the basic thing you need to avoid this.
There are some virus that can change your clipboard (address you copied) and change it into other address when you paste it.
Always checking and never sending coins hastily.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Freescan on April 12, 2019, 02:58:24 AM
the coin is lost due to a typing error or number I think it will not be sent, the address contract in each transaction must match that address. so the point is if you send it incorrectly because a letter error will not be sent or lost, unless you send it not because the error might be lost.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: shendy on April 12, 2019, 04:20:21 AM
the coin is lost due to a typing error or number I think it will not be sent, the address contract in each transaction must match that address. so the point is if you send it incorrectly because a letter error will not be sent or lost, unless you send it not because the error might be lost.
It seems a trivial thing, but it is important to know not to let us send the wrong address or to write something that will harm us, it requires precision in doing something


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Viper_Unleashed on April 12, 2019, 04:26:26 AM
We always learn from our mistakes and each day is just a new day and we are learning something new.I am sorry for people who really lost their coins but its a good lesson so that we might be more careful in future.Generally when we try to send coins we need to give authy codes/confirm verification mail/again we need to confirm twice at least in every transaction.even exchanges use fund password enable all those so that while transferring funds you will have to check quite a number of times.It will minimize mistakes.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: robaya on April 12, 2019, 04:29:45 AM
I was wrong several times when I didn’t verify that the token belongs to the ERC20 standard and after sending to MEW I lost my tokens (
if it's a mistake like you did I have never experienced it and I also don't want to experience it. but when sending assets from the ICO platform to my trading account and it made my transaction delayed for quite a long time because the process that must be done was also somewhat complicated.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: justspare on April 12, 2019, 05:34:50 AM
I have an empty portfolio that is eagerly waiting for anyone that would not be careful enough to transfer his or crypto to me, they should not worry, I will take my percentage and transfer the remaining to them lol.

But seriously, I feel for those who has made such mistakes, especially those that transferred huge amount of coins, I don’t think there is any system that has been designed yet that can verify if an account is active or dormant and I doubt it will ever be possible to base it on that, I might decide to save up my coins from now to 10 years without opening it up before then provide I have my passcode active, that doesn’t give anyone the right to mark it as inactive, the only thing I can wish is if there is a way a name can be attached to every wallet address that will ensure its going to the right person.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Moeda on April 12, 2019, 05:57:57 AM
~snip

Every coin that we send to the wrong address, of course we can take it back. Because the blockchain system has no control, so it can't reset the data. Of course in this case to avoid an error, we must always use the copypaste system, or use a barcode. Don't type the address of the wallet one by one.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: heni_april on April 12, 2019, 06:05:43 AM
~snip

Every coin that we send to the wrong address, of course we can take it back. Because the blockchain system has no control, so it can't reset the data. Of course in this case to avoid an error, we must always use the copypaste system, or use a barcode. Don't type the address of the wallet one by one.
the barcode is the safest and is bound to the transaction than do the copy paste for keys or wallet. We will be more secure and there are no errors in writing the address if we do the transaction by using the barcode.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: agusiska on April 12, 2019, 06:16:17 AM
it mean your wallet has been hijacked by someone buddy, maybe you have ever put your private key when filled some form registration.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: geminiboy on April 12, 2019, 06:20:52 AM
Yes, double or triple checking your receiver address before sending any coins is the basic thing you need to avoid this.
There are some virus that can change your clipboard (address you copied) and change it into other address when you paste it.
Always checking and never sending coins hastily.
that was my experience at that time, the pc that I used was infected with a virus and the wallet address always appeared another wallet, I was still lucky because I realized that it was not my wallet, I canceled the transaction and reinstalled immediately, after that everything became normal again


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: glendall on April 12, 2019, 06:25:27 AM
there is no way when we send the wrong address and click "send".
and it will be a problem if we use privacy coin, because we don't know where our coins go.
for example, sending the XVG coin incorrectly, then we won't know who the owner of the address is.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Dpat on April 12, 2019, 06:32:35 AM
I already lost my coins not because of my mistake of entering the wrong address but I was hacked last year $10,000 worth of crypto from my Myetherwallet. A hacker stole my private key by any means but I don't know how. But, steal my account has some crypto. How can I protect this? If anyone know that; how to change the private key or any protection method for my rest of the coin in my wallet, then tell me.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Fluxtorrence9 on April 12, 2019, 07:04:57 AM
If the transaction is on ETH platform and its still pending you can still stop it by going into etherscan and paste the address ,its will show pending and you can stop it ,there is 99% chance that it won't work though ,but if the transaction has been approved then forget it


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: michellee on April 12, 2019, 07:28:33 AM
the coin is lost due to a typing error or number I think it will not be sent, the address contract in each transaction must match that address. so the point is if you send it incorrectly because a letter error will not be sent or lost, unless you send it not because the error might be lost.
It seems a trivial thing, but it is important to know not to let us send the wrong address or to write something that will harm us, it requires precision in doing something

Make sure you always double check or do it more before you send to the address, so you don't make any mistake. Sometimes we miss this, and we forget to check the address, or we only check the first character and the end of characters. That is why many of us still making a mistake, but from this, I think we need to always check before sending to another wallet.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: toast on April 12, 2019, 07:35:31 AM
I was wrong several times when I didn’t verify that the token belongs to the ERC20 standard and after sending to MEW I lost my tokens (
if in my opinion it's your own mistake, not the exchange error, chances are that you have mistakenly written the address you want because it could cause your coins or tokens to lose


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Ranly123 on April 12, 2019, 07:43:14 AM
Hi guys

First of all - i haven't been sending anything to a wrong address, I Always Double check the addresses if not tripple check  ;D

But!
I've been thinking about all those post about people sending their coins to a wrong address - isn't there a way to fix this?  :)

What happens if you type in a wrong address and send it? - You probably just lost your coins. Someone might be lucky enough to have this address, otherwise your coins would be stuck in wallet controlled by no one.
Im not sure how the delegation of addresses works, but could i end up with a wallet with x amount of a coin in it just by creating new wallets?

Wallet addresses is a hexadecimal number, which cointains more possible addresses, than humans existing on the earth - Of course not 100% correct beacuse a coins address whould be same lenght +-
which will restrict the possible amount. Why? Because of safety? Or maybe the posibilty to scale the network?

is there any coins with some kind of function that checks if the recieving wallet address has ever been active? If not - Why? would it ruin any kind of privacy/anonymity?



That's the problem when you send coins to a wrong address. Negligence to what you do is not an excuse to fix the damage. I think there is no way to fix it instead, do your part to be responsible in sending your coins to the correct address.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: airdropan on April 12, 2019, 07:44:06 AM
ever had experience about that, i input wrong address. it should be ETH address then i inputed NEO wallet
gladly i'm contact the admin from that exchange to refund my ballance , and its successfull.
they refund my eth. my opinion you should contact costumer service or admin to refund your wrong coin


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: ryap12 on April 12, 2019, 07:48:47 AM
ever had experience about that, i input wrong address. it should be ETH address then i inputed NEO wallet
gladly i'm contact the admin from that exchange to refund my ballance , and its successfull.
they refund my eth. my opinion you should contact costumer service or admin to refund your wrong coin

But that will only work if you are in an centralized exchange. And also both ETH addresses and NEO addresses are totally different so ETH will never go through in sending the funds. I wonder which exchange tried to process withdrawal of a wrong format of wallet address? What I know to most exchanges out there is that it will not go through and notifies me it's not the proper address.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Fredomago on April 12, 2019, 08:24:17 AM
the coin is lost due to a typing error or number I think it will not be sent, the address contract in each transaction must match that address. so the point is if you send it incorrectly because a letter error will not be sent or lost, unless you send it not because the error might be lost.
It seems a trivial thing, but it is important to know not to let us send the wrong address or to write something that will harm us, it requires precision in doing something
It requires presence of mind before sending your tokens/coins to another wallet address, you have to double or triple check each information that you needed to remember, failing to do so will results to lose your coins forever, I was once experienced this transferring coins to a wrong address and never
recover anything back.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: insidertradingeverywhere on April 12, 2019, 10:18:16 AM
We always learn from our mistakes and each day is just a new day and we are learning something new.I am sorry for people who really lost their coins but its a good lesson so that we might be more careful in future.Generally when we try to send coins we need to give authy codes/confirm verification mail/again we need to confirm twice at least in every transaction.even exchanges use fund password enable all those so that while transferring funds you will have to check quite a number of times.It will minimize mistakes.
I agree that it is difficult to make a mistake, there is only the option that it is a novice, or just in a hurry, be careful, do not hurry, check the address and number


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Mcmich on April 12, 2019, 10:28:26 AM
People (commonly) sent their coins to a wrong address not because of mistyping it, but because of a copy paste malware that automatically changes the address that has been copied to clipboard (from the recipient's address to the hacker's address). Having an anti malware software on your device would help and of course always double check the address before making the transaction.

Content of this might be helpful to you -> What if you send Bitcoin to a non-existent address? (http://awildduck.com/?p=5117)

This malware stuff is really causing harm. I remember some days ago, I was transferring ethereum to someone, after copying the address on clipboard and pasting, I noticed it changed. I was just fortunate to have checked if not I would have been in a big debt.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: zolfa on April 12, 2019, 11:37:07 AM
I think the lost coins cannot be recovered, the best solution to avoid this is to pay attention to your wallet before sending coins


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: ginobitcoiner on April 12, 2019, 12:11:15 PM
I am also concerned about the event you experienced, losing is indeed a very painful thing, therefore always be careful and always check when sending or receiving a token. because when there is a mistake we will not be able to do anything. besides sincerity.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: cabalism13 on April 12, 2019, 12:23:22 PM
I really don't know if its really lost or something, there are numerous facts to be considered, even if you say that you're the kind of a guy who always check before sending, you might never know that especially when you're busy. Another thing is the coin must have stopped from existing,  well you know what's the reason.

So specifically its not lost.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: bendernine on April 12, 2019, 12:29:35 PM
I don't that lost coins can be recovered. As of now, there is no app that will help you out. Those apps saying they can, most likely they are malwares designed to steal more of your coins. It's really hard to trust especially apps pretending to help you. Start checking your computer of malwares.
indeed there are many applications or software that promote that they can return your lost coins but, don't be easily affected and true if they only want to cheat by stealing more coins that you have I am also sure the coins that have been lost will indeed be difficult to return to if you have lost it is better to ask for help from those who know better.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: B. on April 12, 2019, 01:12:14 PM
hello, don't get your address wrong, but if you send ETH to the BTC address, of course you can't, both wallet and market devices can't describe the address if you use the wrong wallet address
does that mean we can only insert one coin against one wallet? if like that it feels very difficult because you have to have a lot of wallets if you buy lots of coins that make the mind confused and and can be wrong we entered the wrong key when we want to enter our wallet.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: tepyh on April 12, 2019, 01:57:09 PM
Return anything of course not succeed. It is necessary to check everything more carefully ... such moments happened to many, but until you get a lump yourself you will not get experience.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: fast2fix on April 12, 2019, 01:58:04 PM
People (commonly) sent their coins to a wrong address not because of mistyping it, but because of a copy paste malware that automatically changes the address that has been copied to clipboard (from the recipient's address to the hacker's address). Having an anti malware software on your device would help and of course always double check the address before making the transaction.

Content of this might be helpful to you -> What if you send Bitcoin to a non-existent address? (http://awildduck.com/?p=5117)

This malware stuff is really causing harm. I remember some days ago, I was transferring ethereum to someone, after copying the address on clipboard and pasting, I noticed it changed. I was just fortunate to have checked if not I would have been in a big debt.
we should always check the address multiple times, i always check the address i'm sending to several times. hardware wallets is a must in my opinion it can protect from these kind of mistakes.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: bakermaker123 on April 12, 2019, 02:10:35 PM
Hi guys

First of all - i haven't been sending anything to a wrong address, I Always Double check the addresses if not tripple check  ;D

But!
I've been thinking about all those post about people sending their coins to a wrong address - isn't there a way to fix this?  :)

There isn't a way to fix this especially when the transaction has been processed already. And on recovery process, if there is a user in the address that you have mistakenly send in, you can actually ask him personally if there's a way for you to know who's the holder of the address. But most of the time, the address will not be existing one.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: unbotak on April 12, 2019, 02:10:51 PM
hello, don't get your address wrong, but if you send ETH to the BTC address, of course you can't, both wallet and market devices can't describe the address if you use the wrong wallet address
does that mean we can only insert one coin against one wallet? if like that it feels very difficult because you have to have a lot of wallets if you buy lots of coins that make the mind confused and and can be wrong we entered the wrong key when we want to enter our wallet.
absolutely right, in my opinion it is very troublesome if we cannot enter several coins at once in one wallet.
moreover if we are big investors who invest in lots of coins then it is very inefficient.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: shinratensei_ on April 12, 2019, 02:16:41 PM
hello, don't get your address wrong, but if you send ETH to the BTC address, of course you can't, both wallet and market devices can't describe the address if you use the wrong wallet address
does that mean we can only insert one coin against one wallet? if like that it feels very difficult because you have to have a lot of wallets if you buy lots of coins that make the mind confused and and can be wrong we entered the wrong key when we want to enter our wallet.
absolutely right, in my opinion it is very troublesome if we cannot enter several coins at once in one wallet.
moreover if we are big investors who invest in lots of coins then it is very inefficient.
If that wallet was supporting multiple cryptos and you can store all of them in one wallet. Dude, just try to search through using keyword multi cryptocurrency wallet and you will get a bunch of result about which is a wallet that is supporting various crypto at the same time.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: Janna_MaMa on April 12, 2019, 02:17:09 PM
I also sent the wrong address and lost my money. Now I am very careful in sending tokens


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: asus09 on April 12, 2019, 02:37:36 PM
Hi guys

First of all - i haven't been sending anything to a wrong address, I Always Double check the addresses if not tripple check  ;D

But!
I've been thinking about all those post about people sending their coins to a wrong address - isn't there a way to fix this?  :)

What happens if you type in a wrong address and send it? - You probably just lost your coins. Someone might be lucky enough to have this address, otherwise your coins would be stuck in wallet controlled by no one.
Im not sure how the delegation of addresses works, but could i end up with a wallet with x amount of a coin in it just by creating new wallets?

Wallet addresses is a hexadecimal number, which cointains more possible addresses, than humans existing on the earth - Of course not 100% correct beacuse a coins address whould be same lenght +-
which will restrict the possible amount. Why? Because of safety? Or maybe the posibilty to scale the network?

is there any coins with some kind of function that checks if the recieving wallet address has ever been active? If not - Why? would it ruin any kind of privacy/anonymity?



one negligence can have a bad impact, as you say.
we can't change it or get it back, that's the risk and I've experienced it when I first became involved in the crypto industry.
but as other friends say, you have to research and check every time you want to make a transaction or move from the wallet to the other wallet.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: e@symode on April 12, 2019, 02:43:06 PM
I hope that this will not happen to me, because I look at all possible situations with cryptocurrency very carefully. Therefore, I hope that all this is nothing more than the risk of losing money. It really is.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: julius caesar on April 12, 2019, 02:48:55 PM
I don't that lost coins can be recovered. As of now, there is no app that will help you out. Those apps saying they can, most likely they are malwares designed to steal more of your coins. It's really hard to trust especially apps pretending to help you. Start checking your computer of malwares.

I do believe in you, basically thinking about the matter in a logical way, if we can say, private key and wallet address are linked and interconnected no matter what we can do, then then there's no way we can generate the same wallet address using different private key. In addition it seems impossible if we are going to access the codes behind how these wallet address and private keys are generated. In cryptocurrencies and blockchain, it is 99 percent impossible to make a even a very few adjustment what we can only do is to make an update or view it.


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: shadowduck on April 12, 2019, 03:01:49 PM
I hope that this will not happen to me, because I look at all possible situations with cryptocurrency very carefully. Therefore, I hope that all this is nothing more than the risk of losing money. It really is.
the risk of losing money is something that many people are very afraid of. that is why now people do not buy cryptocurrency. they are afraid of losing their money


Title: Re: Lost coins?
Post by: sana54210 on April 15, 2019, 02:58:31 PM
People (commonly) sent their coins to a wrong address not because of mistyping it, but because of a copy paste malware that automatically changes the address that has been copied to clipboard (from the recipient's address to the hacker's address). Having an anti malware software on your device would help and of course always double check the address before making the transaction.

Content of this might be helpful to you -> What if you send Bitcoin to a non-existent address? (http://awildduck.com/?p=5117)

This malware stuff is really causing harm. I remember some days ago, I was transferring ethereum to someone, after copying the address on clipboard and pasting, I noticed it changed. I was just fortunate to have checked if not I would have been in a big debt.
Aww, these malware of a thing is really getting out of hand, these addresses are quite too long to even notice if there is a change in it, you were so fortunate to have noticed, this loop hole is what ethereum would have used to better there system and attract more users, they should be able to do something that will make one be able to confirm the identity of the receiver before sending, with all these things going on, such as ICO scam, bad projects, stealing of funds from wallet and all these malware stuff, these system might eventually change its after from decentralized to being decentralized.

Imagine ethereum decides to introduce identity confirmation now, has that not already defeated the objective of the anonymous system BTC created?