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Title: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: Lionel on April 11, 2019, 10:38:12 PM
On this forum and crypto-related subreddits they won't let you give these kind of advices, like "Buy & HODL"

But then why the mainstream magazines can do the opposite and nobody complains?

We all know that they spread FUD news so that everybody sells their positions so that the Elites buy at a low price.
That has been their strategy all over the 2018.

Indeed i've read a news on WSJ and other sites on Dec. 2017 saying that the governments would be buying cryptocurrencies to have an additional reserve, other than gold and foreign currencies.
https://www.wealthresearchgroup.com/kept-wraps-central-banks-buying-bitcoins/

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"G7 central banks will start buying cryptocurrencies to bolster their foreign reserves,"
https://www.bullionvault.com/gold-news/central-crypto-010520181

Ask yourself: why did the bear run happen last year if the govs where buying?
There's only one answer: FUD news, and too many people that believe them and get scared , perhaps because you still haven't learned to HODL what you can afford to lose.
That's why you are all susceptible to FUD.

Please learn to control your emotions , and consider that even the gov knows that "BTC is too big to fail", that's why they haven't banned it, like the linked article says.

That means only one thing: BTC is the future.
There's no need to be impressed by scarecrows.

Hope it helps


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 11, 2019, 10:48:52 PM
pretty simple mantra here - mind your own business!
if you try to tell somebody "buy this coin and hodl", you will be labeled as bag holder of that coin, endorser, promoter, name it...
so better keep your business within yourself and let them do their own.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: Lionel on April 11, 2019, 10:57:57 PM
pretty simple mantra here - mind your own business!
if you try to tell somebody "buy this coin and hodl", you will be labeled as bag holder of that coin, endorser, promoter, name it...
so better keep your business within yourself and let them do their own.

But why the FUD journalists paid by the gov are not labeled by anyone?

They clearly don't wish the well-being and wealth of the people.

So they're no better


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: bhabygrim on April 12, 2019, 12:17:11 AM
Well it isn't forbidden it is just that some people don't want to motivate others personally it is more easier to motivate them online rather than doing it on person.
I don't also want to do it I don't want to motivate them since the price is unpredictable they might lose money bacause of it and it could be my fault.
It is not forbidden to motivate them forcing them to or annoying them to buy it is forbidden.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: rdbase on April 12, 2019, 02:10:17 AM
pretty simple mantra here - mind your own business!
if you try to tell somebody "buy this coin and hodl", you will be labeled as bag holder of that coin, endorser, promoter, name it...
so better keep your business within yourself and let them do their own.
I think if most people take heed to that mantra the world would be a better place and we as a society would get things done instead of nitpicking and complaining about how things are.
This definitely would apply to most alt coins out there. Just look at ethereum classic and that flustercluck! ::)


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: Indrawan77 on April 12, 2019, 02:57:56 AM
Its not recommended to motivate people to but because bitcoin is a very risky investment when something goes wrong people will blame you, but when they make profit nobody will grateful to you and I don't believe government will store bitcoin as additional reserve, if the government really sure about bitcoin then they already legalize it

Spreading fud news by journalists is one of the government ways to keep people away from bitcoin, and it's the journalist job to make the news as controversial as possible


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: joniboini on April 12, 2019, 03:00:12 AM
On this forum and crypto-related subreddits they won't let you give these kind of advices, like "Buy & HODL"

But then why the mainstream magazines can do the opposite and nobody complains?

How can you be so sure about this? I'm pretty sure a lot of people got fucked up and complains a lot about those media shill. I personally prefer not to give any financial advice, just stating my opinion about some project in order to make sure nobody follows it blindly.

It's a matter of ethics imo. And maybe those media don't have any ethics at all if they posted a news titled: "Buy XXX now! Hold and get Lambo later". I've learned a lot from 2018, and one of them is to make sure not to follow any buy hold sell news in TG, 4chan or other sites.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: crwth on April 12, 2019, 03:05:36 AM
Some people are just really closed minded with the fact that it could help people out. Maybe factors that affected them are the possibilities of fraudulent acts that can be done with it, but not everything is about that. I think there are many things that people have concerns regarding its place in our generation.

  • It's created by an Anonymous Person/Group
  • Volatility
  • Backed by nothing

With those reasons, it would be hard to consider what the layman could conclude without knowing Bitcoin entirely. I think that's why they need to discover what Bitcoin is first, here in our forum and then check what it could do and possible things can be done when Bitcoin is implemented.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: xWolfx on April 12, 2019, 03:25:06 AM
pretty simple mantra here - mind your own business!
if you try to tell somebody "buy this coin and hodl", you will be labeled as bag holder of that coin, endorser, promoter, name it...
so better keep your business within yourself and let them do their own.

Yeah i agree with your point of view. But some people want to help and the only for some or one of the only ways to help is precisely advertising.

I personally don't think that right now is the time to do that since the wide adoption is not here at all. In fact, it will take a while from now. But, can you blame those who still want to try to help even sometimes in Bitcoin's growth? They are doing something good for all of us.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: jademaxsuy on April 12, 2019, 03:36:55 AM
You might now want to get blame if the user you encourage might get into trouble like having huge debt because of investing in a highly volatile bitcoin in terms of.its liquidity. This is all I can think on why it is not encourage to invite everyone to invest in bitcoin without prior knowledge. This is why we have the forum to which it can function for resources if there is any inquiries regarding the system.

As bitcoin is like inviting everybody on their own decision by letting them know about the risk. In short this is all.about joining at your own risk, do your own research and even advise.to invest money you can afford to.lose.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: pooya87 on April 12, 2019, 03:38:22 AM
On this forum and crypto-related subreddits they won't let you give these kind of advices, like "Buy & HODL"
if the part inside the quotation marks is all that is said then it is NOT advice, it is nonsense. an advice is when there is some explanation included about why should anyone buy and why should they hold and for how long and lots of others. just spamming "buy and HODL" is not constructive.

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But then why the mainstream magazines can do the opposite and nobody complains?
We all know that they spread FUD news so that everybody sells their positions so that the Elites buy at a low price.
not necessarily. most of these news sites  are created by poor idiots who are trying to make "money" from their traffic and they are foolishly publishing crap. they may not even own any bitcoin themselves.

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Ask yourself: why did the bear run happen last year if the govs where buying?
you are wrong. a bear market is just as natural as a bull market. and it is a necessary part of the trends that any market has. and when we enter a big bubble like in 2017 seeing a bear market is inevitable.
the only thing you can argue about is the prolonged state of the bear market and certain suspicious drops. for example i myself find the drop from $20k to $10k the most healthy, from $10k to $6k less natural but still understandable due to the downward trend and fear and all the shorts. but i consider the drop below $6k to be pure manipulation.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: traderethereum on April 12, 2019, 04:42:13 AM
I don't think that it is forbidden to motivate others to buy bitcoin, but we must explain that it's their decision and it's better they research more about bitcoin. Then when they are ready and sure to invest in bitcoin, we can guide them to buy in the right exchanges, and we can suggest keeping that bitcoin if they don't want to make anything.
I already tell about bitcoin to all of my friends, some of them feel that bitcoin offers something and they feel that bitcoin is a way to make money on the internet. So they buy bitcoin after they research and now, they can invest and trade at the same time.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: Kakmakr on April 12, 2019, 06:01:33 AM
In my experience on this forum, promoting Bitcoin and discussion the technology is key to it's success. The word discuss is also very important, because if everyone just created posts to tell people to hoard their coins and to buy more bitcoins, then it will look bad to new people visiting this forum.  ::)  <We will look like a bunch of amateur shills for Bitcoin and also people trying to scam other people into buying more coins.>  >:(

You can still created threads where you discuss reasons why you are saying Bitcoin will succeed or why the price will go up, but it will end up in the speculation area of this forum.  ;)



Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: Nadziratel on April 12, 2019, 06:11:44 AM
Ask yourself: why did the bear run happen last year if the govs where buying?
There's only one answer: FUD news, and too many people that believe them and get scared , perhaps because you still haven't learned to HODL what you can afford to lose.
That's why you are all susceptible to FUD.

Please learn to control your emotions , and consider that even the gov knows that "BTC is too big to fail", that's why they haven't banned it, like the linked article says.

That means only one thing: BTC is the future.
There's no need to be impressed by scarecrows.

Hope it helps



Actually I don't think the main reason of the bear market is FUD news. It is all about market cycle. Yes it is a big oneee!

If this FUD could be affected on this market so much, then I am sure that Bitcoin price would be dropped too much more! FUD news never ends in this market. But market maker doesn't interest with this news. They are watching market completely, I think.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: btc78 on April 12, 2019, 06:19:09 AM
pretty simple mantra here - mind your own business!
if you try to tell somebody "buy this coin and hodl", you will be labeled as bag holder of that coin, endorser, promoter, name it...
so better keep your business within yourself and let them do their own.
agreed on that mate because those people that we will encourage to buy in will give their trust on us not on cryptocurrency so whenever theres a failure for sure we’ll be the one to blame so lets not ask people to buy instead lets educate them on what is crypto currency is all about and if they decide to purchase any of currency or tokens atleast it was their own risk and not ours


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: omone1 on April 12, 2019, 06:24:33 AM
Not until the government and the big banks are done filling their treasury with bitcoin they are not likely  to let go off the paid FUD. The losers are the ones that think the big banks were created in their own interest and don't think why they will  have to pay a very ridiculous interest rate on loan but get a peanut on a fixed deposit, at the end, inflation will still render the accrued fixed deposit interest worthless. Someone once said "if we don't have plans for your money, someone will help you spend it."


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: sheenshane on April 12, 2019, 06:24:40 AM
No, that is not forbidden, you have the right to motivate others and it's up to you if someday they will come back and blame you after they have a ton of losses in investing but failed. But if I were you, just focus what you have done in the crypto market and prove to them that crypto investment has a possible huge of income if you know how to manage with it.
I think you should have to conduct seminars and orientations if you want to motivate people before they stepping in on the crypto investment.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: pushups44 on April 12, 2019, 07:18:35 AM
We should make a distinction between informing others about bitcoin and convincing them to buy it. I think the former is a good idea while the latter usually isn't. As the market has shown over the last 16 months, it is highly volatile and because of that most people cannot stomach the action. In this market, $1000 can easily turn to $100 or even less - and the opposite is also true. I'd stick to mainly discussing the technical aspects or advantages of using cryptocurrency instead.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: Fredomago on April 12, 2019, 07:46:17 AM
pretty simple mantra here - mind your own business!
if you try to tell somebody "buy this coin and hodl", you will be labeled as bag holder of that coin, endorser, promoter, name it...
so better keep your business within yourself and let them do their own.
agreed on that mate because those people that we will encourage to buy in will give their trust on us not on cryptocurrency so whenever theres a failure for sure we’ll be the one to blame so lets not ask people to buy instead lets educate them on what is crypto currency is all about and if they decide to purchase any of currency or tokens atleast it was their own risk and not ours
That's much better, teach them how to select quality coins to invest their money instead of directly tell them what you are supporting, it's their money so they need to learn how to save it and not to be moved by anything, self assessment can bring them to  much better journey and much higher successful rate than leaning to anyone to ride with.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: adzino on April 12, 2019, 01:01:27 PM
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On this forum and crypto-related subreddits they won't let you give these kind of advices, like "Buy & HODL"
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But I see the exact opposite thing on the forum and other places. People keep on suggesting other to buy crypto currencies and hold them as long as possible. Even though when the times wrong, they till suggest blandly to buy and keep holding. Not to sell even though they would have made profit and saved themselves from suffering from losses.
And yeah, the mainstream media discourages people from investing on bitcoin/cryptocurrencies because they are controlled by the government and they also like to create controversies.



Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: Snaic on April 12, 2019, 05:40:46 PM
In this forum you can express and justify any point of view regarding cryptocurrency. Some have non-acceptance of information to certain coins or tokens, but this is more of their half the problem.
In my opinion, if you call everyone to buy bitcoins, hardly anyone would say that it is forbidden to do that. You just need to justify your point of view. Considering that at this forum we simultaneously conduct our business in cryptocurrency, everyone has the right to consider the words of the other as an interested advertisement of individual coins or tokens.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: Ayiranorea on April 12, 2019, 08:15:18 PM
Even a techie find it hard to believe, by that time it is truly an unbelievable innovation for the common people. For them all that known is the schemes and savings through banking system. Most of the time people wish to be on the safer side as well doesn't wish to take risk. Here there is risk as well knowledge is important to stand long in the market. With all this factors if we suggest and fortunately if the market moves downtrend people won't have the patience as well won't understand about its recovery. This is why not everyone motivated.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: The Cryptovator on April 13, 2019, 09:27:06 AM
I don't think its forbidden to motivate others especially newbie. So how upcoming generation will know and accept bitcoin. I don't trust on FUD or FOMO. And I believe every crypto users should avoid it. But unfortunately our greedy nature is forcing to trust FUD and FOMO. We don't have enough patience really, if it were then bitcoin shouldn't dump up to $3K on last bear market. Lack of knowledge about bitcoin and crypto-currency is responsible for that. Still we have to learn and teach others about bitcoin.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 13, 2019, 09:51:43 AM
Maybe it's because if we motivate others, they can directly to buy bitcoin without making analysis and they only buy instantly at the market. That is very risky for them because the price is volatile and we don't know if the price can stay at a price now or will get down in the next hours. They can buy bitcoin, but only after they analyze the market, so they know when to buy bitcoin.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: fudster on April 13, 2019, 06:45:17 PM


Its not my job to spread fud, its just that i suspect everybody else does it when they hold more and wants profit from spreading some news. i always wonder why some users spurt out some accusations about the team being scam when in fact these users previously support the team like a die hard. eventually you'll figure the guy wanted to buy more.

Now come to think of it why the team messes up big time while they are very good at what they are doing form the start of the ICO but after it, they suddenly started to act like a beginner. I suspect they wanted to buy back their own coin the cheapest possible like $50 per 1M token.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: ralle14 on April 13, 2019, 11:40:27 PM
not everyone can afford it. Because it is very expensive.
Only because the price is $5000+ that doesn't mean Bitcoin is expensive. It's not a requirement to buy 1 Bitcoin because most crypto exchanges have the lowest minimum when it comes to buying Bitcoin.

It's hard to force someone to buy bitcoin.
When you motivate someone to buy Bitcoin your giving them insight. forcing them to buy is different it's like giving pressure to the person so they would buy it.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: Janation on April 14, 2019, 12:50:46 AM
I agree with the statements posted before this.

Why would I push someone to buy Bitcoin or a certain cryptocurrency? They might suspect me as an endorser or an advertiser of that coin, and if something happens I know the blame will be pointed directly at me. I guess it is fine that they should know what they want to do and what we should do, we don't need to force them or push them to like or buy something even if we like it.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: Dingdongjl on April 14, 2019, 04:50:22 AM
Ask yourself: why did the bear run happen last year if the govs where buying?
There's only one answer: FUD news, and too many people that believe them and get scared , perhaps because you still haven't learned to HODL what you can afford to lose.
That's why you are all susceptible to FUD.
Logically correct, they spread FUD to buy at lower prices.

In the situation of promoting bitcoin there is nothing wrong with that just make you that you explain it well up to the risk they are taking.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: Tylev on April 22, 2019, 07:38:28 PM
Encouraging others to buy cryptocurrency is not prohibited. Only here is the moral and ethical side of these actions. It is better to explain both the advantages and disadvantages of cryptocurrency, as well as point out the risks that each cryptocurrency owner will be subject to, leaving the final decision on this person. Such an unobtrusive explanation is necessary so that you do not feel guilty if this person suffers losses in the future. This person may also blame you for the damage caused to him.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: KingScorpio on April 22, 2019, 07:50:13 PM
On this forum and crypto-related subreddits they won't let you give these kind of advices, like "Buy & HODL"

But then why the mainstream magazines can do the opposite and nobody complains?

We all know that they spread FUD news so that everybody sells their positions so that the Elites buy at a low price.
That has been their strategy all over the 2018.

Indeed i've read a news on WSJ and other sites on Dec. 2017 saying that the governments would be buying cryptocurrencies to have an additional reserve, other than gold and foreign currencies.
https://www.wealthresearchgroup.com/kept-wraps-central-banks-buying-bitcoins/

Quote
"G7 central banks will start buying cryptocurrencies to bolster their foreign reserves,"
https://www.bullionvault.com/gold-news/central-crypto-010520181

Ask yourself: why did the bear run happen last year if the govs where buying?
There's only one answer: FUD news, and too many people that believe them and get scared , perhaps because you still haven't learned to HODL what you can afford to lose.
That's why you are all susceptible to FUD.

Please learn to control your emotions , and consider that even the gov knows that "BTC is too big to fail", that's why they haven't banned it, like the linked article says.

That means only one thing: BTC is the future.
There's no need to be impressed by scarecrows.

Hope it helps


because its kapitalistic spam, its also forbidden to advertise altcoins in this forum or its highly limited only on altcoin forum.

banks block out all that dont agree with them from their glass palaces as well and so did kings queens and also the muslim khalifate.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: erikoy on April 23, 2019, 04:27:00 AM
This topic is all.about holding crypto or selling it. I just wonder why the title talk about the the prohibition of one to encourage to buy bitcoin though we know that there is no really prohibition in encouraging others to buy bitcoin. Now, if bitcoim is future as what OP stated then it is good now to invest.

Taking high risk if it will succeed means a huge profit.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: BlackFor3st on April 23, 2019, 05:36:38 AM
You have a positive behavior which is very good as I am on your side. Spreading bad news is not new already, this kind of tactic has been repeating every now and then.

You just need to adapt to it and you will surely gain a better profit in the long run. Though newbies will surely fall to this kind of tricks and even saying that it is the end of bitcoin. Bitcoin has a bright future, I am pretty sure of it.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: OrangeII on April 23, 2019, 06:57:37 AM
You have a positive behavior which is very good as I am on your side. Spreading bad news is not new already, this kind of tactic has been repeating every now and then.

You just need to adapt to it and you will surely gain a better profit in the long run. Though newbies will surely fall to this kind of tricks and even saying that it is the end of bitcoin. Bitcoin has a bright future, I am pretty sure of it.
the development of bitcoin is indeed very good, however, I can only motivate people in this development. I do not recommend that they buy, because I only say that they need to buy it when it's really needed, or indeed because they need it. sometimes, I also don't want to be blamed for the situation that happened ;D


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: 0t3p0t on April 23, 2019, 01:20:40 PM
On this forum and crypto-related subreddits they won't let you give these kind of advices, like "Buy & HODL"

But then why the mainstream magazines can do the opposite and nobody complains?

We all know that they spread FUD news so that everybody sells their positions so that the Elites buy at a low price.
That has been their strategy all over the 2018.

Indeed i've read a news on WSJ and other sites on Dec. 2017 saying that the governments would be buying cryptocurrencies to have an additional reserve, other than gold and foreign currencies.
https://www.wealthresearchgroup.com/kept-wraps-central-banks-buying-bitcoins/

Quote
"G7 central banks will start buying cryptocurrencies to bolster their foreign reserves,"
https://www.bullionvault.com/gold-news/central-crypto-010520181

Ask yourself: why did the bear run happen last year if the govs where buying?
There's only one answer: FUD news, and too many people that believe them and get scared , perhaps because you still haven't learned to HODL what you can afford to lose.
That's why you are all susceptible to FUD.

Please learn to control your emotions , and consider that even the gov knows that "BTC is too big to fail", that's why they haven't banned it, like the linked article says.

That means only one thing: BTC is the future.
There's no need to be impressed by scarecrows.

Hope it helps

It is simply because of the fact that not all people are cryptocurrency friendly. What I mean is that they don't know about Bitcoin or in general they don't have enough knowledge to get into the Bitcoin industry. The consequences could be that their investment might be lost  and will never be recovered again all are wasted due to ignorance. FUD is also there to make the emotions of investors more complicated.


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: Siren on April 23, 2019, 01:31:56 PM
pretty simple mantra here - mind your own business!
if you try to tell somebody "buy this coin and hodl", you will be labeled as bag holder of that coin, endorser, promoter, name it...
so better keep your business within yourself and let them do their own.
Nah ofcourse asking someone close to me are another different case because the only thing that we can help this community is to spread the cryptocurrency for all those people that may trust us

First our family members who will also benefits when time comes that crypto is adopted by the whole world,second our close friends that will believe us because they trust our decisions and we know from ourselves that all we want is their goodness in future


Title: Re: Why is it forbidden to motivate others to buy Bitcoin?
Post by: BitBustah on April 23, 2019, 02:03:51 PM
Reddit is over censored and the moderators on those subreddits have gotten out of control.  I don't visit that site anymore because of this.

Many are hesitant to give friends and family advice about bitcoin in case things go south and they get blamed.  Money can really ruin your personal relationships.