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Title: Whatsminer M21 Available for Pre-Order (~August) - 31TH:1860W
Post by: sarcheer on April 15, 2019, 07:01:58 PM
https://pangolinminer.com/product/whatsminer-m21-with-psu-shipout-during-august-1020/ (https://pangolinminer.com/product/whatsminer-m21-with-psu-shipout-during-august-1020/)

Price is $850 for the pre-order currently.

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ATTENTION: This product is currently in pre-sales stage, the order will be shipped during August 10 ~ 20, 2019. For more details, please contact sales@pangolinminer.com

Whatsminer M21 is 12nm ASIC miner for SHA-256 Algorithm,it can mine Bitcoin or Bitcoin cash with hashrate of 31Th/s (+-5%). Power consumption is 1860W (+-10%).

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy8SJW6-uC0

Weight    7.15 kg
Hashrate    

31 Th/s (+-5%)
Power Consumption    

1860W (+-10%) @ 31th/s
Shipment Date    

2019/8/10 ~ 2019/8/20
Dimensions    

440mm(L) x 200mm(W) x 300mm(H)
Algorithm    

SHA-256
Chips Process Technology    

12nm TSMC
Working Temperature    

-5℃ ~ 40℃
Warranty    

180 days after shipment


Title: Re: Whatsminer M21 Available for Pre-Order (~August) - 31TH:1860W
Post by: philipma1957 on April 15, 2019, 07:29:03 PM
Seems to be a little better then an m10

m10's did 2200-2300  and 31th

m21  will do 1860 and 31th

so 2300/31000 = 74 watts a th  give or take a bit m10

vs

1860/31000 = 60 watts a th  m21

price is a bit high but it could be a good unit on a downclock.


Title: Re: Whatsminer M21 Available for Pre-Order (~August) - 31TH:1860W
Post by: HagssFIN on April 15, 2019, 07:45:32 PM
The build design is looking a lot like the M3X.  :)


Title: Re: Whatsminer M21 Available for Pre-Order (~August) - 31TH:1860W
Post by: minefarmbuy on April 15, 2019, 07:49:17 PM
Yea, interesting. Now just drop pricing for de minimis. ;)


Title: Re: Whatsminer M21 Available for Pre-Order (~August) - 31TH:1860W
Post by: Yrth on April 15, 2019, 09:06:41 PM
I'd love to order some, but that 4 month wait time is way way way too long. Like 3 months too long.

I'd rather wait for the next round of S17's to be made available for order.


Title: Re: Whatsminer M21 Available for Pre-Order (~August) - 31TH:1860W
Post by: Steamtyme on April 16, 2019, 10:22:23 AM
Well I'm just lost in the latest offerings.

I'm curious what happened to the 48TH M20 demo unit option. This one seems to come out of left field, as it wasn't part of the 3 options they had available. That is unless they made some sacrifices in power to try and create a lower cost miner.

This would have been a contender for me at this price as I don't get hit as hard as you guys for taxes/tarrifs. Agreed though the wait time is just to long when you know there will be offerings with better delivery times in that period


Title: Re: Whatsminer M21 Available for Pre-Order (~August) - 31TH:1860W
Post by: wheelz1200 on April 28, 2019, 10:17:16 PM
I'd love to order some, but that 4 month wait time is way way way too long. Like 3 months too long.

I'd rather wait for the next round of S17's to be made available for order.

I'm with you.  These multi month pre order timelines are killer.  I get it and know it's a business for them and preorders are a thing of the norm, but 4 months is just too long in crypto to figure out if it's worth it to buy or not.


Title: Re: Whatsminer M21 Available for Pre-Order (~August) - 31TH:1860W
Post by: Artemis3 on April 28, 2019, 10:21:00 PM
https://pangolinminer.com/product/whatsminer-m21-with-psu-shipout-during-august-1020/ (https://pangolinminer.com/product/whatsminer-m21-with-psu-shipout-during-august-1020/)

Price is $850 for the pre-order currently.

But Americans have a problem with this, don't they? Why didn't Pangolin lower it to $799?

Well i guess it costs the same as the M10 but is a little more efficient, but not as nice as the M20S. I was thinking an M20S with two or one board would do the trick instead...


Title: Re: Whatsminer M21 Available for Pre-Order (~August) - 31TH:1860W
Post by: philipma1957 on April 28, 2019, 10:43:23 PM
But Americans have a problem with this, don't they? Why didn't Pangolin lower it to $799?

Well i guess it costs the same as the M10 but is a little more efficient, but not as nice as the M20S. I was thinking an M20S with two or one board would do the trick instead...

I would buy one a week if they shipped ASAP.

But at this point I am waiting on their gear as I am not buying any s17 or t17 direct from bitmain.

Maybe a used one in a few months from a forum member but frankly bitmain is not getting my coin.


Title: Re: Whatsminer M21 Available for Pre-Order (~August) - 31TH:1860W
Post by: minefarmbuy on April 29, 2019, 06:13:20 PM
Yea, $799 might increase single orders, still three month wait is rough no matter the cost of a pre order.


Title: Re: Whatsminer M21 Available for Pre-Order (~August) - 31TH:1860W
Post by: philipma1957 on April 30, 2019, 02:23:16 AM
Yea, $799 might increase single orders, still three month wait is rough no matter the cost of a pre order.

yeah long waits are tough.  But what can you do?  I am hoping for the m20 demo to come between may 10 and may 20 as promised.

I can then decide what to get.  a lot of m20's or a mix of m20s and m21s

I have resisted any s17 or t17 purchases and have ordered just the one m20 demo.

very hard to do this just wait for the m20


Title: Re: Whatsminer M21 Available for Pre-Order (~August) - 31TH:1860W
Post by: Artemis3 on April 30, 2019, 03:27:00 AM
But the M20s has a great efficiency, that we are waiting for you to confirm with your review to us. So whats is this about an M21s? Is it the same efficiency as the M20s but smaller? The "plain" M21 is 60t/w vs 48ish the M20s promises.

I don't think the Bitmain miners are worth it at least while new (overpriced), especially now that they won't let you ssh into them... Later, perhaps with lower prices, and better news about getting back into ssh, maybe. But with MicroBT at least you don't have to worry about that, and you can probably squeeze it a bit more efficiency something you wouldn't be able to do with the crippled Bitmain units.