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Experienced Trader

Hi! I am an experienced trader in crypto, and I have been trading on bitmex and bitfinex for almost 2 years now.
I recently got into trading on Deribit for their option trading. My trading accuracy is around 90% accurate.
I am looking for individuals or groups that are looking to hire someone that can manage their accounts and give them passive profits on their portfolios.

I had an excellent job in one very popular crypto signal platform, and I am the one that brought it to its popularity. But now I am looking to work with myself, and others on this managing project.

FAQ

What type of a trader are you?

I am a swing based trader, I hold trades for over a week usually, and my current trade that i'm in, I've been holding it for 2 weeks almost.

How do you manage my porfolio?

I simply log into your Bitmex/Bitfinex/Deribit account and I start trading on your account.

Can you steal my money?

I cannot, even if I wanted to. With access to your account I cannot withdraw, unless I have access to the email and authentication on your phone. (aka impossible)

Whats your Fee?

I charge 35% on profits made, If a larger individual that wants me managing larger amounts of money, I can reduce that fee greatly.


Keep in mind, I am only looking to work with people that will not run away after I make them profit and then not pay me.
PM me only if you are serious, and have more than 0.2 btc that you can trade with.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask

With 90% trading accuracy?you must be millionaire by now?with that accuracy you can sell your house to use as capital since you can surely make that 90% higher instantly?sorry but i just find this inaccurate for a EXPERT TRADER .No offense only asking for knowledge of everyone that might consider your offer

Goodluck and thanks for the reply if there’s

Why not use a cryptocurrency trading bot instead? Like Gunbot (https://gunbot.ph)

Then after having that software, ask for the API keys and Secret to prevent from withdrawal. It's easier especially if you only need a few trades to do it. You can customize it to whatever strategy you need, and it would help you make it easier.

It's an assurance for the user/client that you won't be able to run away with the money.

This is the first time I saw someone in this forum offering his service.
My honest opinion if I have to decide, I would not use this service because I want to improve my trading skills and maximize my income.

And I cannot prove you are as accurate as you mentioned.

You might want to use an escrow for this or a 2-of-3 multisig address. The owner would send the money to them and then they'll pay you based on the profits that you made on your trade on a weekly basis.


I think this option is safer instead of allowing you to access the owner exchange account. There's no need for them to expose their email and password, they just need to give you the API access.


Yeah, showing his real portfolio/trade history might increase the confidence though.

You should've posted proof of your trades or portfolio, or if you have offered this kind of services before customers feed back. Honestly, it is difficult to trust trading service offers nowadys. Show proofs so that people can judge whether you as a trader who offers service is credible.

Imagine if I were to give my account, username, and password to someone I didn't know, and that has 0.2 BTC inside it to trade, I wouldn't definitely give it (Unless I'm a whale that could afford something like that amount)

The safest thing to do is have Secured API Access to the account, so that the owner would still be in control and could see all the trades that are being done, etc.

Firstly, I think that if you move this thread to the Services board, you may get more offers for your service. Secondly, how is anyone supposed to trust your claims without any proof to substantiate them?

I wouldn't promise guaranteed returns since that reeks of scam in this market.

If your trading accuracy is 90% accurate why you need to offer this service for 35% of the profit while you can earn 100% if you do it with your own money?
Or simply just open a trading signal service where people needs to buy your signal instead of using our account to trade. I believe people will not dare to give his trading account to someone that he do not even know.

90% is so close in having 100% accuracy in trading. How can you be like this? I bet that your accuracy wasn't accurate enough to tell us that this is how you get in trading. Within your 2 years of being part of of cryptocurrency there were many ups and downs in crypto market and how can you attain a 90% accuracy. I bet not.

What you should do instead is create a thread here and post your trades in real-time (not in hindsight) and post when you are about to take profit or a loss. And after a few months or a year of consistent profits then you can start charging for your signals. Because this way we can easily prove with timestamps that the trades taken would of been profitable without too many drawdowns.

However in my opinion, if you got an 90% accurate rate then you should just use more leverage on Bitmex and this way you can build capital and then you can reduce your leverage.

In your posts it sounded like profits are really 100 percent sure to happen.
I doubt that.

Maybe trials should be made.
Or you could also posts some of your success in trading. With just words who will grab this kind of opportunity. (if it is real)
Besides, I dont want anyone handling my account. Anything could happen now with just log in details.

Look, just one advise. Do not tell them that they will run away first. You are holding their account like an escrow here. You are supposed to be the one that they could not trust here.
You sound like you are the most trusted human being in the world with your thread.

Is it that high percentage for a profit to take a larger percentage?!

35 percent is just too much for me but thanks for the offer.

Better go to services section and you might find some customers there. This thread is just a discussion and you can just see comments from other users here.
Good luck though.

Whoever is putting up the initial capital is taking a huge risk.  Trading is not an easy job by any means and even the best of them on Wall Street often failed.  Not long ago the legend George Soros lost over a billion on a failed short position.

OP, you charge 35% of the profits made without assurance of who you are, and if you can do what you say you can do. You want people to trust you? Deposit 35% of your own Bitcoins in the trading account.

Hedge funds charge 20% in performace fees, and they are good in what they do.

90% isn't so close with 100%. It means from 10 trades, he could be lose in 1 trade.

OP, why do you need to make money for people instead make your own money with your own trade? With this way, you can make 100% profit as yours rather than only 35% from people. You can't be 100% certain and sure if someone will pay you after you make profit for them.

Would you be interested in becoming a Trader we can all copy trade? Also, they want experienced traders like yourself on TRADEPRO to beta test their features before they go live. Many of us can shadow trade you there once they launch it and you can earn a fee from us and people can rate you as well. I think that kind of the platform will get you a lot of new followers and of course, if you are good maybe hundreds or even thousands of people will copy/trade your trades automatically on the platform and then a fee is going to automatically assigned to you, so no one will cheat you..

If you have a 90% trading accuracy then why would you still be want to be hired as a trader? With that accuracy, you could have made a lot of money by now. I know that your intention is good but I see something shady over here.

Come on man.. With 90% accuracy you would grow a $10 account very quickly to thousands of dollars. And I doubt you would still be lurking on this forum with that accuracy and looking for funds. If you are so consistent go grab a loan from the bank or get a job for some time and multiply your portfolio.

The statistics are damning. 80% of people who deposit money for the purpose of trading lose money (and this is just a forex statistic, not even a market that swings as wildly as crypto does), even higher for those who take up margin/leveraged trading. At the very best platform, just over 60% post losses.

The stats are here (https://www.financemagnates.com/forex/brokers/which-brokers-house-the-most-winning-clients-post-esma/).

So if you're claiming 90% accuracy, there are so many options for you to make a quick buck. Keep compounding profits every week. Say if you ONLY make 5% a week, at 52 weeks you have 47 profitable weeks = 1,000% bankroll after a year.

So why not just do that? Heck, use 10:1 leverage and go crazy. Why trade individual accounts and give yourself a headache?

As a word of warning to anyone whos looking to let someone else trade for them. Why does a trader need investments if he is so good at what he does? If he cant accumulate his own capital for trading then theres something obviously wrong here.

So you are charging 35% of the profit from the partners. And you told that your winning accuracy is around 90%. Really hands up to you if you did not tell lie with your accuracy. But there is a chance to fail in trade. Because nobody can work with 100% accuracy. So if you fail in trade then what will be happened to the partners? will you give the loss amount?

Questions answering:

Well, you see I once knew a friend which turned 0.1 btc into 130 btc. He was more accurate than me. And then just 1 trade screwed and he lost all his btc.
A similar thing happened to me. thats why I revised my risk management and now I do not risk more than 10% per trade. I am working on recovering, and trading for others would help.

Trust me, If I did not get liquidated I'd be flying jets right now. If you guys want to see my accuracy or give you guys signals just PM me on telegram @borislavfx

Hahaha, I am laughing so loud at the way you accurately analyzed it, you must be a good analyzer. He thinks that we are newbie and just getting to understand what hype is all about.

He is just hype to lure us into believing in him and packing our hard earned money for him, It ain't going to work, we have already passed through this stage and if he wants to have his way, he better register fully as a crypto broker and maybe someone will then recognize him. I would rather go through a registered broker to trade my crypto for me, if I cannot do it myself.

Then your friend is too greedy and never feel enough for what he can get. If I were him after I can turn 0.1 btc into 130 btc, I quit from trading, take a break for a long time and cash out the money. Never trading again or if I want to trade, I only use 0.1 btc - 1 btc so I can save the rest of bitcoin in the wallet.

Being greedy and naive in the trading will cause ourselves to become worst, and your friend is the sample.

If you are a good trader, I suggest you trade for yourself, and that is what I will do if I am a good trader too. I am too afraid to use other people's money to trade even if I am a pro trader because we don't know if our plan will always work or not. Besides that, the market will always change from time to time so we cannot always make the right prediction. But that is only a suggestion for you, and I hope you understand.

True it is better to improve your own skills rather than relying your own money to someone else .
It is better to gain knowledge and experience for your future than to be lazy and spoon fed by others.
You know what they say "Give a man a fish and you feed him for day,teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime" .

I have hardly seen someone with such accuracy that you claim that is still looking for whose account to trade, I just hope you don't intend to send some guys back to their granny's bossom.  ;D

With that kind of response, you are just turning your offer into non-sense to worst.

You want people to just give away money easily and "TRUST" your judgement.

Since we are talking technical here, people want some technical answers from you and not just, pm me etc. etc. etc.

what do you mean by give away money? I can trade with API, I have no way in stealing funds, nor is that my goal. My goal is managing people that are not good at trading so that they can still earn while im earning.
If you dont want me to manage, then don't let me manage. Instead of posting all here saying that im a phoney, im not accurate etc. If you want proof then just fucking PM me on telegram and I can give free predictions

I am doing that...
I trade for myself, but I can also make extra money managing other peoples accounts.
That's like saying the fund managers in big institutions that are profitable enough to live off their own profits, why do they manage others?

Just give the prediction here to prove that you had 90% accuracy. Build you trust with transfarancy until there are some people who trust you, although I can't imagine if there are someone who give an access to their wallet he doesn't know you before.

Trust me, your imaginary friend will not gonna turn 0.1BTC to 130 BTC easily especially on Bitmex. And just your own money for trading rather than asking for other money for you to trade. If you really that skilled then you don't need to do this scheme. You can try to loan money on different lending platforms then trade for yourself.

if we have trading skill we could changes our small money be huge amoun.if we very sure with our capability in trading and could proved it , investors will coming and bring their money.

I agree with you. I see that some of my friends don't use too big of money to start trading and while they still learning, they are trying to make a profit in every time they trade. But they cannot always make the profit because they cannot predict where the market moves.
But with never stop from learning to trade, day by day, they can get the profit, and they can make their balance grow.
Until that time, he offers other friends to invest with him so he can get a bigger balance to trade and make a bigger profit.
But the OP can try to search the investor he wants especially if he can prove to the investor that he has good skills in trading so he can make a profit for them.

%90 accuracy is mean god start trade btc.
Good sign long live btc lol..
Thats call martingale casino wins all the time..

This is what im seeking on where showing up proofs regarding on its previous trades so that the potential investor or user would able to see that he's telling the truth not only
just bluffing around saying 90% accuracy without even have the plan to show or prove that claim. 35% deducted sounds reasonable but even convincing a single investor
wont really be an easy job.

I don't know what is the reason behind your work to other people instead of making another account in trading if you want. You've said and claiming 90% accuracy, why you need to work others than focus on your work and have a lot of money than working of 30% from other profit. Trading is not just simple to have a streak of winning, maybe show some proof of your claiming 90% accuracy.

Ok?

You guys don't beleive me? got anything better to do?

Ill show you guys here.

10 trades I will do lets see how many are correct.

I did a trade the other day shorted the top at 5605

Closed at 5430


--Live Trade--

Opened a long 5415

Targeting 5500,5600,5700

Imaginary? Shut up you ignorant fuck. First of all I think he hit the grave because he has been offline for months now watch your mouth it isn't funny.

Shorted 5400

btc going to 4500 and then 3500.

How about giving us an example of that 90% trading accuracy of yours and post a coin that you think will pump or will have a price increase for about 10%-20% so that we can see if you really have that 90% accuracy. If you really are that good, why didn't you work in big companies where they can take advantage of your talent.

I trade only USD pairs mate.
I trade only Bitcoin and Ethereum.

I don't do alt trading at these times. Once BTC is back in the bull run then ill start btc trading.

And i just posted here, Im expecting a big drop in btc. If you want to join my Telegram channel send me a PM at @BorislavFX

I am not sure that he is really prepare to win some clients for himself, the offer sounds too good to be truth and for such an offer, people may no longer fall for all these sweet talks again with their level of experiences in the market without a tangible post and if I were him, I will keep updating the forum virtually every day on my progress.

At least he should use his fund to trade and shoe us proof of his winning; he must not get an investor to drop money first. We don’t want to give it a trial, trial is not what we need now, we need 100% assurance that he is capable of doing what he is proposing to the public.

Sorry, this is nothing personal, but it's not easy to take you seriously. Anyone can post "I shorted here, Bitcoin will go there". Plus what should happen if you lost money? Should the people who staked Bitcoins in your "trading service" pay for the losses in full?

90% trading accuracy, hmmmmm, and you still have to come on this forum to run an ad, someone that is so good in trading don't need to come here to create a topic since they have lots of money, most of them just pay advertising company to run ads for them on facebook and instagram then convert the users to them, I don't really know why but I am not still convinced that you will be able to deliver on this, though you can prove me wrong.

As I saw one topic about real traders, they are so busy facilitating their business, why they need to go here and advertise or offer guidance, they have a working methods that can feed them enough or might be much higher than that, what's the sense of guiding anyone for some bucks, no offense but in the reality, I'm convince with what you have said, maybe in some case they can deliver but the accuracy is not that huge.

Good trader/s will stay at home and enjoy the benefits of what he's been succeeding, be happy and content with his own life.

If I am a newbie trader, I think I won't allow others to trade my coins and then its too risky because I don't know you personally.
And if I'm going to do that, I guess I cannot explore or excel my skills in trading If I will depend my capital to others skills in doing the
actual trade in the market exchange platform.

Proof of consistency in winning trades will encourage those will patronize his services by showing details of real trades won not demos if possible covers his bitmex and bitfinex accounts details but revealing all his trading set up both losers and wins this will convince a would- be trader towards  agreeing to use his service else this is just an effort in futility.

I do believe that this is what many of us need in other to be able to make investments decision through you if you are really good op.  Trading is one of the easiest way to lose money especially if you lose it through investing in some one to trade for you.  I think if you can show us proof like Ailmand has said I will really appreciate it.  Show us your really account and not demo account and the effectiveness issues will be settled.

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/XBTUSD/6VbxoiXT-Bears-have-lost-strength/

And check my other predictions I have posted. I barely post there, but I will start once again.
I usually do swing trades. Follow me there and see for yourself the accuracy I am to show you.

This is when btc was 3800 and I predicted an up move.

It went to 5800

And you guys don't know real traders, first of all, I swing trade. meaning I have all the time in the world.

Whats pissing me off is I already told you retards here to PM me or check my channel so you can see how accurate I am, but instead, you morons choose to argue again over nothing.
I'm closing this ad. I thought the crypto community wasn't that retarded, but it seems you guys are. Can't show anything but negativity.

It is never even advisable for a newbie to allow other to trade on his behalf because it will only end up making such trader useless and weak, a newbie needs experience to really learn the trading terrain and gain lots of strategy, the pro trader who promises to also trade might lose too, because what they will give you is 50:50 chances.

So if there is non-guaranteed of winning, then it will be better I trade it myself, then if I make a mistake I look into such mistake, research on it, ask mentors about it and learn to become better and be a good pro trader like the person that promises to trade my money.

I'm not a trader but I don't know if hiring a trader is safe and will get you a bigger profits. I better use trading bot than trust unknown users for the safety of my coins. You should be careful on choosing your traders that will lead to success. Trading bot can be used anytime just research how to use it and where to find it, that's only the best solution for my opinion if I'm bot wrong. Trading bot will really help you.

But what is the point of hiring the trader who is making few trades per month and if his accuracy is real why he want to manage some people's funds?

As a success, I was able to find an investor?

Because he wanted to earn more income  but lets be careful to not easily trust somebody  because our money is at stake here  . the point of hiring a trader is simply for a busy person or if a person wants to trade but he is scared because  he lacks knowledge  .

 though its still better to take the risk yourself and if you loose dont be discourage because that is a lesson that will improve you to become a better trader  .  trading bots on the other hand are more trusted if you already have some knowledge on trading .

I'm all for people trading by themselves. You can join my crypto channel and group chat on telegram.
And I can help people trade. The people that I have and manage are usually people with over 5-10 btc.
The question that I ask the most is how they got those bitcoins because they don't know how to trade whatsoever.
Sure I make them good money, but I still question how they initially got those funds, they seem to have unlimited.

And yea, I learned scams the hard way when i entered crypto. I probably have gotten scammed 4 times over the last few years in crypto.

Now the questions that you guys are asking:

What if your a scam?

Well, first of all, define scam. If you mean steal your funds, that's impossible. Exchanges have 2fa and ask email confirmation, I don't have access to your email.
If you mean that my accuracy isn't very high and i'm lying, then I invite you to join my crypto channel. I post daily there.

If you don't want me managing, it's alright, I'm not going crazy, I'm working on some projects and trading my own money.

The point is less trades = less risk and less work

question #2
Because I gain more people in the crypto community, which is very important when starting a project, and because I wan't to make extra money.
Swing trades don't get you rich over night you know

Try posting to services board so many users interested in this kind of stuff will see your service.This is quite risky even with what you stated that the owner holds the authentications,but if youre trustworthy this is a good business to be in

Someone hiring a trader because he is busy is still understandable but the excuse of hiring trader because of lack of knowledge is not an excuse, the trader they are relying on too does not know everything all and he is still opened to more knowledge, if the trader can do it, then the person hiring can also do it too.

We just need to first be patient in rushing into trading or deciding to trade, trading market is something that would never die and will always be there anytime we are ready for it, so we need to first go for the knowledge first, if we still feel weak in understanding after going for the knowledge, then we can consider hiring a trader, and when we do, the little knowledge we have acquired will still help us in making some certain decisions.

If he were vouched by reputable DTs here he would have grab some users to allow him to trade for them. OP just need to be trusted. Is just unsure whether his rate of winning is true but there are good amounts of users willing to risk their money to grow. I'm not just one of them though. The risk of handing over my login details of my exchange account is much important to protect.

With all the trading bots around man and seriously with that kinda accuracy am sure you can snap your finger with a hundred bucks and it will be worth million bucks i means cmon you gat all the soul stone so what why are using it on others than yourself Ooh boy get a job before avengers target you next ;D

Seems like that movie Avengers Endgame hooked you up.  ;D

Well,you do really got the point if you do have that kind of accuracy then there would be no need to seek out some traders to let their own accounts to be handled
by you since you can make focus on your own trading account and making it big for yourself until you do generate millions of profits.  ;D

You have chosen quite an interesting direction for earnings. This is a good way to help someone increase their capital. But only I can not understand what is the meaning of this direction? If you are such a good trader then why don't you trade for yourself?

Telling this community how you able to make profit from your past crypto currency trading without any evidence look as if you are not telling us the truth. Please can you provide us any evidence of you past trade so that some people who may have interest in your services to take look and contact you?