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Title: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on April 27, 2019, 05:24:44 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Genemind on April 27, 2019, 06:10:14 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

Are you planning to remodel a real slot machine for players to play slot in real-life using crpytocurrency?

This might be something new, the idea is really unique and might be fun to play. But, people who likes online gambling loves the convenience, anonymity, and of course the provably fair system.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: rijaljun on April 27, 2019, 06:14:39 PM
How would users manage their funds? Using card or hardware to log into users account are probably the options but I think it would be less safe for everyone and we all know that we want everything to be done by home, so this is not really good idea in my opinion.

And, the machines make the game is limited for only some county because many countries are still banning casino.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Bitinity on April 27, 2019, 06:14:56 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

I wonder how will you implement this plan? Real slot machines to be played online, will it be something like live casino when there will be a live dealer who hit the spin button the slot machine you have? Your idea is basically good and there was no online casinos offer this thing so you can be the first one if you can implement it. Let us know more details or at least show us the real slot machines that you have.



Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Haunebu on April 27, 2019, 06:24:38 PM
The biggest problem here is that many countries ban gambling completely which is why this is possible only in certain countries where they do allow gambling by following a set of guidelines.

If you wanted to successfully implement such an idea, you would probably need to procure a license and abide by all the laws which might require KYC and that would be an issue. Not a feasible idea in my opinion.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: nakamura12 on April 27, 2019, 07:03:34 PM
It is a unique idea and I think it's a good idea to remodel the real slot machine that can be connected to the internet. I am sure that most gamblers will think that using real slot machine connected to internet is provably fair. In my own opinion using a real slot machine for online slot machine games is the same as website only as long as the slot machine game from website is programmed the same as the real one. I've never heard of someone plannimg of an idea to connect real slot machine to the internet. Let's see what your plan can do once you have successfully connect it to the internet.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: carlfebz2 on April 27, 2019, 07:24:55 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

I wonder how will you implement this plan? Real slot machines to be played online, will it be something like live casino when there will be a live dealer who hit the spin button the slot machine you have? Your idea is basically good and there was no online casinos offer this thing so you can be the first one if you can implement it. Let us know more details or at least show us the real slot machines that you have.
A common idea but no one do able to give out such possibility on betting on some live casino slot machines but i don't think that someone or majority will prefer on using it up yet playing slots on your own would be more enjoyable yet you are the ones who would pull out that lever or press that button.The only difference here is the appearance between live and animated ones.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: nakamura12 on April 27, 2019, 07:57:36 PM
A common idea but no one do able to give out such possibility on betting on some live casino slot machines but i don't think that someone or majority will prefer on using it up yet playing slots on your own would be more enjoyable yet you are the ones who would pull out that lever or press that button.The only difference here is the appearance between live and animated ones.
Well, if that's the case about that then pressing button in real slot machine is the same as clicking mouse when you want to play. About pulling the lever yourself could also be the same as the real one where you'll click and hold then drag the mouse downwards so it is more likely the same as pulling the real lever but the difference between online and real slot machine game is that when you are playing real slot machine you'll use energy to pull the lever where online will only take less energy when playing the game. Anyway, it's your own opinion and not mine.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: nauane on April 27, 2019, 08:27:48 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

You need to elaborate the idea. Is this some sort of decentralized Gambling with the intervention of online casino ?


The biggest problem here is that many countries ban gambling completely which is why this is possible only in certain countries where they do allow gambling by following a set f guidelines.

If you wanted to successfully implement such an idea, you would probably need to procure a license and abide by all the laws which might require KYC and that would be an issue. Not a feasible idea in my opinion.

Since it online, it will not a problem to implement it depending upon what details we get from OP.  Secondly many countries allow gambling too, so it can be used in those countries. :)


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: jakelyson on April 28, 2019, 03:59:48 AM
Still does not feel the same as pulling the lever yourself in front of the machine.

I do not know if you already have an existing gambling site, but if it is the only game you have, then it looks like it is a waste of license and everything. You will only have limited slots playing at a time thus limiting your income. I do not think it is a feasible plan.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on April 28, 2019, 04:41:04 AM
Thank you all for your answers to my question!


Are you planning to remodel a real slot machine for players to play slot in real-life using crpytocurrency?


I will give access to the control of the slot machine. A gambler will control the game without intermediaries, observing the result of his actions on the monitor, and will also be able to watch the slot machine from the side through a web camera. The video signal from the webcam comes with a delay, but the response from the slot machine to the monitor comes almost instantly, regardless of the distance from the slot machine to the gambler.

How would users manage their funds? Using card or hardware to log into users account are probably the options but I think it would be less safe for everyone and we all know that we want everything to be done by home, so this is not really good idea in my opinion.

And, the machines make the game is limited for only some county because many countries are still banning casino.

I think it is logical to use a smart contract for settlements. The gambler will deposit ETH in a smart contract and receive a proportional amount of credits in the slot machine.
BTC and other cryptocurrencies will be entered into the smart contract by means of an atomic swap with the corresponding tokens ERC20.
The deposit will be frozen. The gambler will be able to return the funds if he proves that he was deceived.
Since all gaming sessions will be stored in the archives, you can always check the integrity of both the casino and the gambler.


I wonder how will you implement this plan? Real slot machines to be played online, will it be something like live casino when there will be a live dealer who hit the spin button the slot machine you have? Your idea is basically good and there was no online casinos offer this thing so you can be the first one if you can implement it. Let us know more details or at least show us the real slot machines that you have.


As I said above, the gambler will have access to the management of the slot machine, as if he is in a casino. But I think that for the entourage can be used real girls dealers.

The biggest problem here is that many countries ban gambling completely which is why this is possible only in certain countries where they do allow gambling by following a set f guidelines.

If you wanted to successfully implement such an idea, you would probably need to procure a license and abide by all the laws which might require KYC and that would be an issue. Not a feasible idea in my opinion.

There is a way to work within the law in all countries. I will answer this question later. Thanks for the question!


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Crypto Girl on April 28, 2019, 01:02:03 PM
I think it is logical to use a smart contract for settlements. The gambler will deposit ETH in a smart contract and receive a proportional amount of credits in the slot machine.
BTC and other cryptocurrencies will be entered into the smart contract by means of an atomic swap with the corresponding tokens ERC20.
The deposit will be frozen. The gambler will be able to return the funds if he proves that he was deceived.
Since all gaming sessions will be stored in the archives, you can always check the integrity of both the casino and the gambler.
Refund is actually fair however will just see if all of these will be fulfilled once the platform run. I mean it's easy to say this and that but not actually don't happen.

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There is a way to work within the law in all countries.
First time to heard that, it's sounds intriguing as US and other countries has been strict in blocking online gambling sites.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: FlightyPouch on April 28, 2019, 01:14:55 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

That would be great, I mean I usually gamble slot games in the past and I think the way that you will be able to control them or play them online, well at a real slot machine is so awesome. So, how can we "insert" or play on it? Do we first make a wallet on the site and we will be making a deposit on it? If you already have a site please post a link here.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: YuginKadoya on April 28, 2019, 01:20:13 PM
Thinking about it might be easy to do, But In reality, this is very unlikely to be done, but Maybe an online live casino can further implement and secure with live cams applications like Skype or messenger video calls and the transaction can be made with a wallet to wallet bitcoin transaction that can be confirmed with a real escrow as well or a trustworthy persona personnel in that live casino, But there surely be a problem in this kind of settings because the animosity of that person playing is in jeopardy, That is the only problem I am seeing with this online casino's.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on April 28, 2019, 01:47:04 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

That would be great, I mean I usually gamble slot games in the past and I think the way that you will be able to control them or play them online, well at a real slot machine is so awesome. So, how can we "insert" or play on it? Do we first make a wallet on the site and we will be making a deposit on it? If you already have a site please post a link here.

I have no site yet. I had game halls in the city. The police closed them for no reason. Equipment seized. They investigated a criminal case, but did not find in my actions a corpus delicti. Now all that they have withdrawn is returned to me. We have to start opening offices, but I want to reformat the business scheme, taking into account cryptocurrencies. To do this, we tried to organize access to the slot machine online and we managed to do it. There was a problem with the speed of the signal, but the other day a solution was found.


So, how can we "insert" or play on it? Do we first make a wallet on the site and we will be making a deposit on it?

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I think it is logical to use a smart contract for settlements. The gambler will deposit ETH in a smart contract and receive a proportional amount of credits in the slot machine.
BTC and other cryptocurrencies will be entered into the smart contract by means of an atomic swap with the corresponding tokens ERC20.
The deposit will be frozen. The gambler will be able to return the funds if he proves that he was deceived.
Since all gaming sessions will be stored in the archives, you can always check the integrity of both the casino and the gambler.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Cacingkemi on April 28, 2019, 01:49:34 PM
You must work to solve it so that we know and appraise about the online site bet at real slots that you have planned, I'm happy if there is a new gambling site that uses a new system. How about security?


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Jating on April 28, 2019, 01:52:15 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

That would be great, I mean I usually gamble slot games in the past and I think the way that you will be able to control them or play them online, well at a real slot machine is so awesome. So, how can we "insert" or play on it? Do we first make a wallet on the site and we will be making a deposit on it? If you already have a site please post a link here.

Right, I'm a slot machine addict, lol, played mostly traditional based though. You insert money in the machine and then play. So it's going to be interesting as what the OP is saying here.

There are a lot of questions raised, so I do hope he comes back and answer all the queries of fellow gamblers, specially those who love to play slot machines.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on April 28, 2019, 01:57:04 PM

1. Refund is actually fair however will just see if all of these will be fulfilled once the platform run. I mean it's easy to say this and that but not actually don't happen.

2. First time to heard that, it's sounds intriguing as US and other countries has been strict in blocking online gambling sites.

1. If, or when I start creating such a platform, my smart contract for accepting deposits from gamblers will be verified by the best auditors and security specialists.

2. The slot machines were returned to me, which means my circuit works  :)



Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: coolcoinz on April 28, 2019, 02:20:13 PM
My first concern would be rigging. You as the enthusiast must know that it's not that hard to reprogram a slot machine and change the probability of certain sets being rolled. How would a player know the machine hasn't been tampered with?
The second concern is trust in you as the manager to handle everything like withdrawals, uptime of the cameras and so on. People trust casinos because they usually have a big and experienced staff. You've never run such operation and never handled large deposits from random people, am I right?


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: smyslov on April 28, 2019, 03:14:12 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

Wow, this is something new and has not been tested or tried before, I would like to see how are you going to do that, I think you need a cron job to do this it's an automated website application that triggers payment, why not tried it and give us an update, I'm sure many will follow your lead.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on April 28, 2019, 03:48:29 PM
There are a lot of questions raised, so I do hope he comes back and answer all the queries of fellow gamblers, specially those who love to play slot machines.

Questions from gamblers will help me understand what I have to create.

My first concern would be rigging. You as the enthusiast must know that it's not that hard to reprogram a slot machine and change the probability of certain sets being rolled. How would a player know the machine hasn't been tampered with?
The second concern is trust in you as the manager to handle everything like withdrawals, uptime of the cameras and so on. People trust casinos because they usually have a big and experienced staff. You've never run such operation and never handled large deposits from random people, am I right?

This is a very important question! I thought, for example, that at a minimum I should have gaming boards sealed by the manufacturer and allow the gamblers to check which settings on the gaming board are set.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: ralle14 on April 28, 2019, 04:12:08 PM
I like the idea, I imagine it being similar to the crane game from toreba. I haven't tried it but I watched a couple of videos on how it works would be interesting if that's your plan with your vacant slot machines.

Still does not feel the same as pulling the lever yourself in front of the machine.

I do not know if you already have an existing gambling site, but if it is the only game you have, then it looks like it is a waste of license and everything. You will only have limited slots playing at a time thus limiting your income. I do not think it is a feasible plan.
I disagree that it's a waste of time, it's possible that he could be getting smaller profits because players have to take their turn but it still depends on how much an average player is gambling on his slots. Then once OP earns enough profit he could use that to buy another machine.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: seoincorporation on April 28, 2019, 04:16:58 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

The idea sounds great, is like play BlackJack with live dealers, some people feel it more secure to play this way, but the problem i see about the slots machine is the provably fair engine, if the machines are real nothing warrants us they are not rigged, and the only option of the users it to trust the machine, but if I'm going to play online i would like to have a provably fair engine clear for the users.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: maydna on April 28, 2019, 05:19:34 PM
So, how can we "insert" or play on it? Do we first make a wallet on the site and we will be making a deposit on it?

Making a wallet is the first step which you should do if you want to create a gambling website so we can deposit and withdraw. And then you can integrate the game inside the site and test the game. You can try to make a bitcoin wallet and altcoin wallet, and of course, you can try with a wallet that supports erc-20 because I see right now, many new platform gambling games which using erc-20 and the other coin platform like eos. You can hire a programmer that will help you to make that website.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: sheenshane on April 28, 2019, 11:25:12 PM
Not a so much bad idea. I like the point that people will think that they are really playing slot machines online that they don't need to think about the computer automated algorithm. The problem is, how would you connect it to the internet and who would operate it? Stream in a website a good idea but it would also cost you a lot to hire people who will help the users to bet with a real slot machine.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: crwth on April 28, 2019, 11:46:10 PM
Would you still be able to play it in a real casino while someone is playing that slot machine? If I understood correctly, you would connect the device towards the internet forming a somewhat hybrid Internet Connected slot machine that's nowhere near you and accessible online? What's the point? Why not just create the same program and continue from there. It would make more sense to prevent manufacturing costs and a physical place. I think it's more doable if you think about it that way.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on April 29, 2019, 01:20:21 AM
Not a so much bad idea. I like the point that people will think that they are really playing slot machines online that they don't need to think about the computer automated algorithm. The problem is, how would you connect it to the internet and who would operate it? Stream in a website a good idea but it would also cost you a lot to hire people who will help the users to bet with a real slot machine.

Through the web application, I plan to accept payment and claims. Post news, etc. The gambler's interaction with the slot machine occurs directly, without intermediaries.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: sweetbet on April 29, 2019, 02:18:52 AM
It sounds good, but would you need a special license to be able to do that?


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: mich on April 29, 2019, 03:36:12 AM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?
There is something about physically pulling the handle when I play real slots at the casino.
Not to take anything away from the online casinos where this is not possible.
But it really all comes down to what type of slots experience you are looking for.
I have seen some people slide in the players card and sit back and 'auto-play' slots for hours on end  :o


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on May 09, 2019, 09:26:04 AM
I like the idea, I imagine it being similar to the crane game from toreba. I haven't tried it but I watched a couple of videos on how it works would be interesting if that's your plan with your vacant slot machines.

Still does not feel the same as pulling the lever yourself in front of the machine.

I do not know if you already have an existing gambling site, but if it is the only game you have, then it looks like it is a waste of license and everything. You will only have limited slots playing at a time thus limiting your income. I do not think it is a feasible plan.
I disagree that it's a waste of time, it's possible that he could be getting smaller profits because players have to take their turn but it still depends on how much an average player is gambling on his slots. Then once OP earns enough profit he could use that to buy another machine.

I have a few dozen slots.

It sounds good, but would you need a special license to be able to do that?

I tried the business scheme in Russia. A criminal case was opened and all equipment was seized.

Yesterday I received a decision to terminate a criminal case due to the absence of corpus delicti. I have the right to compensation.

In the coming days I will file a lawsuit.

If even in a country like Russia, law enforcement agencies did not find a crime pattern in my business, in a civilized country, such a business scheme would be welcome!


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: eternalgloom on May 09, 2019, 10:42:35 AM
It's definitely a unique idea and I don't see why it wouldn't work.
I mean, if casinos can have live roulette and blackjack games, then live slot games would also work I'd think.

Also, it would be cool to have this at a cryptocurrency casino, just because of the novelty factor.

Btw, good luck with your lawsuit!


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on May 09, 2019, 11:41:13 AM
It's definitely a unique idea and I don't see why it wouldn't work.
I mean, if casinos can have live roulette and blackjack games, then live slot games would also work I'd think.

Also, it would be cool to have this at a cryptocurrency casino, just because of the novelty factor.

Btw, good luck with your lawsuit!

Thank! Now we need to correctly determine the amount of the claim. The loss of profit over 3 years amounted to astronomical values and therefore I do not think that the Russian authorities will fully compensate for it. I will have to temper my appetite :)


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Ucy on May 09, 2019, 08:58:01 PM
This would be interesting. But how can stuff like provable fair gambling be applied on physical slot machines that is controlled over the Internet? How can gamblers be certain nothing unfair is going on at your end?


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: mersal on May 09, 2019, 11:11:02 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?
it is not about making the money it is only for fund purpose because this type of Machines will giving the entertainment only more than a prophet that's why I am saying this will also be like real experience for everyone.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on May 12, 2019, 04:20:25 AM
This would be interesting. But how can stuff like provable fair gambling be applied on physical slot machines that is controlled over the Internet? How can gamblers be certain nothing unfair is going on at your end?

I did not make a final decision on this aspect of the problem.
I think beforehand to give users access to video monitoring of the integrity of the board and settings.
Do you have any ideas?


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Malsetid on May 12, 2019, 05:45:00 AM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

I think i've seen quite a few of these online slots on some local casinos so yeah it is possible and it is already being used. Though the oned i saw don't deal with btc or eth but with fiat. You load an online card that you  purchase from the local casino cashier and you input the card information in the slot machine before you play. It's probably going to take some time before we see crypto being utilized like that in a real slot machine.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Johnzky on May 12, 2019, 09:25:45 AM

And, the machines make the game is limited for only some county because many countries are still banning casino.
Not just that countries are banning casino,it’s literally out of machines imagine if the players decide together?what about if there are 1000 online gamblers that will play at same time?how could you provide that lots of machine to accommodate them?i think this is impossible to reality.and physical game cannot be comes together with virtual,it’s not safe


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on May 12, 2019, 09:54:13 AM

And, the machines make the game is limited for only some county because many countries are still banning casino.
Not just that countries are banning casino,it’s literally out of machines imagine if the players decide together?what about if there are 1000 online gamblers that will play at same time?how could you provide that lots of machine to accommodate them?i think this is impossible to reality.and physical game cannot be comes together with virtual,it’s not safe

Obviously, in the presence of a large number of gamblers, a queue should be formed, as in a real casino. In addition, gamblers should be able to observe the slot machine.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Ucy on May 12, 2019, 06:22:36 PM
This would be interesting. But how can stuff like provable fair gambling be applied on physical slot machines that is controlled over the Internet? How can gamblers be certain nothing unfair is going on at your end?

I did not make a final decision on this aspect of the problem.
I think beforehand to give users access to video monitoring of the integrity of the board and settings.
Do you have any ideas?


I honestly don't. I don't even know how those things work. You could research about it on YouTube or via Google. Maybe someone has solve the problem somewhere.
You probably could use some sort of independent auditor or something?


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on May 14, 2019, 10:12:09 AM
This would be interesting. But how can stuff like provable fair gambling be applied on physical slot machines that is controlled over the Internet? How can gamblers be certain nothing unfair is going on at your end?

I did not make a final decision on this aspect of the problem.
I think beforehand to give users access to video monitoring of the integrity of the board and settings.
Do you have any ideas?

You probably could use some sort of independent auditor or something?


Do you have something to offer me?


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: swogerino on May 14, 2019, 10:43:21 AM
From an It perspective it appears as you are setting up a server somewhere and people remotely connect to these real slot machines from their PC or laptop.The idea is a great one but it leaves space for cheating.I am also curious how would provable fair gambling be implemented and also you should be transparent about the house edge you have set to these slot machines.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Kittygalore on May 14, 2019, 01:14:34 PM
We are in the digital age and we should maximize the use of internet using our mobile phones or any gadget that is capable to play an online casino. Besides online casino can minimize the need of infrastructure and can save space for the future generation. It doesn't need any fund to built an entire building so it can be put on establishing a better security for all the users.

Hacking tendcies can be solved if the website runs an ethical hacking checkup to provide great security. Moreover, the use blockchain technology or the bitcoin itself can debunk the hacking percentage. Vegas casino (https://vegascasino.io/) is the only one I saw that implement cryptocurrency as the betting tool for their casino...


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on May 16, 2019, 03:11:07 AM
From an It perspective it appears as you are setting up a server somewhere and people remotely connect to these real slot machines from their PC or laptop.The idea is a great one but it leaves space for cheating.I am also curious how would provable fair gambling be implemented and also you should be transparent about the house edge you have set to these slot machines.

Server in this scheme will not be. The gambler will get access to the management of the slot machine directly.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: shoreno on May 16, 2019, 05:27:58 AM
From an It perspective it appears as you are setting up a server somewhere and people remotely connect to these real slot machines from their PC or laptop.The idea is a great one but it leaves space for cheating.I am also curious how would provable fair gambling be implemented and also you should be transparent about the house edge you have set to these slot machines.

Yes , his idea is cool but idk if that is really possible to connect a real slot machine into a computer/internet  . how do we know the difficulty or the fairness of these machines ?  or maybe he can attached this to a blockchain technology so that his machine can be fair to everyone   . or why cant he just create a fully only gambling site or a casino site ?  I think that would be more easier for him and for us gamblers .


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: avikz on May 16, 2019, 02:12:34 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

I am sure a lot of slot players will love this idea, provided they get proper visibility on what's happening on real time basis. Otherwise it makes no sense! Go ahead only if you can provide real time feed of your slot machines otherwise trust will become the major bottleneck of your new casino's popularity!

Whatever you've proposed, it's a absolutely new in the gambling market because no one has tried to integrate an offline machine to online casino but, in ordee to achieve this, you have to cross some major technical milestones! Good luck with that!


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on May 17, 2019, 10:33:44 AM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

I am sure a lot of slot players will love this idea, provided they get proper visibility on what's happening on real time basis. Otherwise it makes no sense! Go ahead only if you can provide real time feed of your slot machines otherwise trust will become the major bottleneck of your new casino's popularity!

Whatever you've proposed, it's a absolutely new in the gambling market because no one has tried to integrate an offline machine to online casino but, in ordee to achieve this, you have to cross some major technical milestones! Good luck with that!

I hope that I will be able to foresee everything that you rightly paid my attention to. Thanks for the positive evaluation of my idea!


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Johnzky on May 17, 2019, 10:47:01 AM

And, the machines make the game is limited for only some county because many countries are still banning casino.
Not just that countries are banning casino,it’s literally out of machines imagine if the players decide together?what about if there are 1000 online gamblers that will play at same time?how could you provide that lots of machine to accommodate them?i think this is impossible to reality.and physical game cannot be comes together with virtual,it’s not safe

Obviously, in the presence of a large number of gamblers, a queue should be formed, as in a real casino. In addition, gamblers should be able to observe the slot machine.
If does then for sure player will not wait until he’s turn since that will be a large amount of time to spend,look at this because the players online is not willing to take time waiting not like in real casino that they can have other option todo so when your prospective player wait a lot for sure they will find another site to gamble and forget about yours


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: jademaxsuy on May 18, 2019, 03:09:11 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?
If this will be done OP then what is the point in creating an online casino platform? If it will go things online then that should include the games to be played with. I think there is no need to do that since the real casino machines where just made also by a device the same as with the online betting platform. There is only slight difference and I prefer all to be online rather than having a real gaming machine but played it online for every gambler.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: BurCoin on May 19, 2019, 11:27:31 AM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?
If this will be done OP then what is the point in creating an online casino platform? If it will go things online then that should include the games to be played with. I think there is no need to do that since the real casino machines where just made also by a device the same as with the online betting platform. There is only slight difference and I prefer all to be online rather than having a real gaming machine but played it online for every gambler.

In an online casino in one slot machine, an unlimited number of gamblers can play at the same time and, therefore, there is no way to predict any increase in the chances of winning. In a real slot machine, a gambler sees that a gambler in front of him has deposited a lot of money and lost everything, which means that the chance to win is big.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: rodel caling on May 19, 2019, 01:06:04 PM
From an It perspective it appears as you are setting up a server somewhere and people remotely connect to these real slot machines from their PC or laptop.The idea is a great one but it leaves space for cheating.I am also curious how would provable fair gambling be implemented and also you should be transparent about the house edge you have set to these slot machines.

Server in this scheme will not be. The gambler will get access to the management of the slot machine directly.


Very interesting project I visualize  the ideas and feature of these project in my imagination "good luck" i'll wait the update of the project to materialize.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on May 20, 2019, 01:49:09 PM

And, the machines make the game is limited for only some county because many countries are still banning casino.
Not just that countries are banning casino,it’s literally out of machines imagine if the players decide together?what about if there are 1000 online gamblers that will play at same time?how could you provide that lots of machine to accommodate them?i think this is impossible to reality.and physical game cannot be comes together with virtual,it’s not safe

Obviously, in the presence of a large number of gamblers, a queue should be formed, as in a real casino. In addition, gamblers should be able to observe the slot machine.
If does then for sure player will not wait until he’s turn since that will be a large amount of time to spend,look at this because the players online is not willing to take time waiting not like in real casino that they can have other option todo so when your prospective player wait a lot for sure they will find another site to gamble and forget about yours

In my scheme it is important that the one who waits can be sure that there is MONEY in the slot machine!


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Johnzky on May 21, 2019, 01:52:38 PM

And, the machines make the game is limited for only some county because many countries are still banning casino.
Not just that countries are banning casino,it’s literally out of machines imagine if the players decide together?what about if there are 1000 online gamblers that will play at same time?how could you provide that lots of machine to accommodate them?i think this is impossible to reality.and physical game cannot be comes together with virtual,it’s not safe

Obviously, in the presence of a large number of gamblers, a queue should be formed, as in a real casino. In addition, gamblers should be able to observe the slot machine.
If does then for sure player will not wait until he’s turn since that will be a large amount of time to spend,look at this because the players online is not willing to take time waiting not like in real casino that they can have other option todo so when your prospective player wait a lot for sure they will find another site to gamble and forget about yours

In my scheme it is important that the one who waits can be sure that there is MONEY in the slot machine!
For that I will respect yours,and will hope things may resolve when the time you started the operation..

And just one and important thing,make sure that the support team will respond in each problem comes the players way,as this will be your tool to gather more players


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: 7788bitcoin on May 21, 2019, 03:59:51 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?
I will tell you one thing, do you know the reason why no one tried this yet as trust is the biggest issue, how would anyone trust your live game, i know there are live roulette games in some online casino's with girls looking after the bets, you need to earn the trust of users and then it is possible you can run them virtually since you said you will audit and will to stream everything, but may i ask why is the delay in the feed as you mentioned earlier ?.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: BurCoin on May 27, 2019, 03:36:25 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?
I will tell you one thing, do you know the reason why no one tried this yet as trust is the biggest issue, how would anyone trust your live game, i know there are live roulette games in some online casino's with girls looking after the bets, you need to earn the trust of users and then it is possible you can run them virtually since you said you will audit and will to stream everything, but may i ask why is the delay in the feed as you mentioned earlier ?.

Sorry, but I did not understand your question.

Hi guy! When are the tests? Will you attract investment?


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: uneng on May 27, 2019, 03:51:01 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?
I think crypto gambling is much safer than real slot machines, as we have provably fair system. On physical slots I don't even know how those machines are programmed. What I would like to see were a physical casino, offering the same games system that crypto casinos do and accepting btc, altcoins.
If it were possible, older people who don't have access to technology could play with btcs like they play with fiat.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on June 13, 2019, 05:17:56 AM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?
I will tell you one thing, do you know the reason why no one tried this yet as trust is the biggest issue, how would anyone trust your live game, i know there are live roulette games in some online casino's with girls looking after the bets, you need to earn the trust of users and then it is possible you can run them virtually since you said you will audit and will to stream everything, but may i ask why is the delay in the feed as you mentioned earlier ?.

Sorry, but I did not understand your question.

Hi guy! When are the tests? Will you attract investment?

Hi! Testing successfully passed in closed mode.
Based on this idea, I have worked out a business scheme that is guaranteed to bring income to investors (min. x10).


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: thin on June 13, 2019, 08:09:27 AM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

I don't know, seriously. While playing with real slot machine you feel it. Playing remotely, even if you look on  it through the remote camera is not the same. I would say no much difference from playing with virtual slot machine.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: imstillthebest on June 16, 2019, 11:53:00 AM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

I don't know, seriously. While playing with real slot machine you feel it. Playing remotely, even if you look on  it through the remote camera is not the same. I would say no much difference from playing with virtual slot machine.

there is still a difference because he is using a real slot machine but we cant consider it safe because we wont know the settings inside those machine , maybe the guy did modify it not unless if he can show us via a live cam  .

he can also stream live after we place our bets and he will do the rest of the job instead of making things complicated  because i see that the guy is really strugling to invent his idea  .


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: izanagi narukami on June 16, 2019, 12:01:52 PM
When there is an demand, I'm sure it will success in the launching.
You need some great team and luck to make it happen so before you try you can't decide what will happen,right ?

Something unique always attractive !


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Jjewelle29 on June 16, 2019, 10:21:41 PM
When there is an demand, I'm sure it will success in the launching.
You need some great team and luck to make it happen so before you try you can't decide what will happen,right ?

Something unique always attractive !

Me too I also hope for success in launching for Real Slot Machine. and I think yes, he need some of a great team that who can help him to be successful.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: DoublerHunter on June 16, 2019, 11:22:26 PM
This idea already came up by someone in this community, as well. But, having a slot machine streamed online has a big risk especially with the concierge/attendant. It is really hard to communicate online and it would make users doubt with the machine as they only see it on their screen. This is not a good idea, in my opinion. If you can have a live teller while streaming with a real slot machine would be the best option we can have instead of this.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: michellee on June 17, 2019, 03:48:24 AM
Hi! Testing successfully passed in closed mode.
Based on this idea, I have worked out a business scheme that is guaranteed to bring income to investors (min. x10).

I think many of us will interest with that, and I think we are curious about what you did. As you say that business scheme will bring an income to the investors, I guess that we will wait for the next update from you. But I am curious about the x10 of the profit from the business scheme because that will be too good to be true to get 10 times of profit from the investment.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on June 17, 2019, 01:33:35 PM
Hi! Testing successfully passed in closed mode.
Based on this idea, I have worked out a business scheme that is guaranteed to bring income to investors (min. x10).

I think many of us will interest with that, and I think we are curious about what you did. As you say that business scheme will bring an income to the investors, I guess that we will wait for the next update from you. But I am curious about the x10 of the profit from the business scheme because that will be too good to be true to get 10 times of profit from the investment.

A very small number of investors will get such a good opportunity. We need funds to create a website, Dapp + smart contract, client software for interacting with slot machines and primary advertising. Soon I will formulate the conditions and guarantees.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: goaldigger on June 19, 2019, 08:11:56 AM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

If i am correct , the idea would be playing online casinos on a real slot machines which player should log in into their gambling site account in order to play. The idea is unique and partly contradicting. Its like having internet cafe's but you have slot machines as computer and the main service is for gambling. I dont know if this would boom since the player needs to log in on a different device. Crypto people are security addict though but the idea is worth a try.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on June 22, 2019, 12:01:32 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

If i am correct , the idea would be playing online casinos on a real slot machines which player should log in into their gambling site account in order to play. The idea is unique and partly contradicting. Its like having internet cafe's but you have slot machines as computer and the main service is for gambling. I dont know if this would boom since the player needs to log in on a different device. Crypto people are security addict though but the idea is worth a try.

Krypto people want to make a profit. I want to offer them conditions in which, as a result of participation in gambling, in the worst case, they will be able to return at least the amount of their loss. Over time, of course, but with a guarantee.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dontme on June 22, 2019, 12:34:32 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?
Every new idea was a great thing to try in crypto since we are online game we can adopt some of the idea of the real gambling in casino in online way where we can use our  gadgets through it. Well, it was very interesting if you can do one then we can bet btc, eth and ltc.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: cabron on June 22, 2019, 03:07:18 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

Are you planning to remodel a real slot machine for players to play slot in real-life using crpytocurrency?

This might be something new, the idea is really unique and might be fun to play. But, people who likes online gambling loves the convenience, anonymity, and of course the provably fair system.

That I think  is a better Idea. A player can just go there with their phone wallet to  play the slot machine. Scanning a QR code when betting. I don't see how you can program the slot machine and allow users to play online with this physical slot machine. Player are going  to check how fair the  machines are. Are we able to check that when its a physical machine?


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 22, 2019, 11:29:59 PM
I have a few dozen slot machines on occasion. Since I know gamblers, I also know their negative attitude towards online casinos. In this regard, I thought that you can organize a game on real slot machines over the Internet. I tried to connect the game board - it turned out that this problem can be solved. You can play online, on real slot machines and bet Bitcoins or Eth. What do you think about this idea?

Are you planning to remodel a real slot machine for players to play slot in real-life using crpytocurrency?

This might be something new, the idea is really unique and might be fun to play. But, people who likes online gambling loves the convenience, anonymity, and of course the provably fair system.

That I think  is a better Idea. A player can just go there with their phone wallet to  play the slot machine. Scanning a QR code when betting. I don't see how you can program the slot machine and allow users to play online with this physical slot machine. Player are going  to check how fair the  machines are. Are we able to check that when its a physical machine?
Too much hassle actually.The idea is quite plausible but executing or making it happen would really have lots of things to be arrange for people to trust and use it up without any hesitation or doubts.Out of convenience they would rather choose up on playing into reputable online gambling slots providers than on this one.
This is just only good solely if you do have physical place where people can just go in and out just to play.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: BurCoin on June 29, 2019, 08:11:51 AM
Hi! Testing successfully passed in closed mode.
Based on this idea, I have worked out a business scheme that is guaranteed to bring income to investors (min. x10).

I think many of us will interest with that, and I think we are curious about what you did. As you say that business scheme will bring an income to the investors, I guess that we will wait for the next update from you. But I am curious about the x10 of the profit from the business scheme because that will be too good to be true to get 10 times of profit from the investment.

A very small number of investors will get such a good opportunity. We need funds to create a website, Dapp + smart contract, client software for interacting with slot machines and primary advertising. Soon I will formulate the conditions and guarantees.

I think that a good guarantee will be the access of potential investors to closed testing.

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Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Irvinn on June 29, 2019, 06:13:44 PM
I have this situation raises some questions, especially when it comes to online gambling on slot machines.  The fact is that if citizens of certain countries play online games through their computers, then there is nothing dangerous there, but if slot machines are banned in the country, then certain problems already appear, if someone plays online gambling with the help of gaming  automat.  I apologize if possible, I didn’t understand a bit the process with which this project will be implemented.


Title: Re: Online Gambling at Real Slot Machines
Post by: Dexaran on June 30, 2019, 05:50:35 AM
I have this situation raises some questions, especially when it comes to online gambling on slot machines.  The fact is that if citizens of certain countries play online games through their computers, then there is nothing dangerous there, but if slot machines are banned in the country, then certain problems already appear, if someone plays online gambling with the help of gaming  automat.  I apologize if possible, I didn’t understand a bit the process with which this project will be implemented.

I think to conduct gambling with a non-zero sum.

With this approach to solving the problem with the Law in countries where gambling is prohibited, my game will not be gambling from a legal point of view.