|
Title: Micronations Post by: ðºÞæ on April 28, 2019, 08:46:49 PM Lets look at some Micronations after the recent Seastead piracy act by the Thai military dictatorship operating like a Mob.
Some of the Micronations are more serious than others. Akzivland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSWfOYvJM-M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSWfOYvJM-M) The Aerican Empire http://www.aericanempire.com/ (http://www.aericanempire.com/) ( :)) Grand Duchy of Avram http://grandduchy.org/ (http://grandduchy.org/) The Dominion of British West Florida http://dbwf.net/ (http://dbwf.net/) Freetown Christiania http://freetownchristiania.org/ (http://freetownchristiania.org/) Global Country of World Peace https://www.globalcountry.org/wp/ (https://www.globalcountry.org/wp/) Principality of Hutt River http://principality-hutt-river.com/ (http://principality-hutt-river.com/) Ladonia https://www.ladonia.org/ (https://www.ladonia.org/) Grand Duchy of the Lagoan Isles http://lagoan-isles.moonfruit.com/ (http://lagoan-isles.moonfruit.com/) Liberland https://liberland.org/en/ (https://liberland.org/en/) Dominion of Melchizedek https://www.melchizedek.com/ (https://www.melchizedek.com/) previously, Republic of New Lemuria http://newlemuria.org/taongiindex.htm (http://newlemuria.org/taongiindex.htm) Bir Tawil Bir Tawil (https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/bir-tawil-1) Other World Kingdom http://www.owk.cz/start1.php (http://www.owk.cz/start1.php) (Women Rule) Republic of Rose Island http://rose-island.livenations.net/ (http://rose-island.livenations.net/) (Defunct) Republic of Saugeais https://www.meridian.net/france/2017/1/4/14166744/saugeais-micronation-france (https://www.meridian.net/france/2017/1/4/14166744/saugeais-micronation-france) Principality of Sealand https://www.sealandgov.org/ (https://www.sealandgov.org/) (Defunct) The Kingdom of Talossa http://talossa.com/ (http://talossa.com/) Republic of Užupis http://uzhupisembassy.eu/ (http://uzhupisembassy.eu/) Republic of Minerva https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/republic-of-minerva (Defunct) Kingdom of Vikesland http://www.kingdomofvikesland.com/ (http://www.kingdomofvikesland.com/) Grand Duchy of Westarctica https://www.westarctica.info/ (https://www.westarctica.info/) (Way to cold) Wirtland http://wirtland.agilityhoster.com/ (http://wirtland.agilityhoster.com/) Abeldane Empire http://abelden.weebly.com/ (http://abelden.weebly.com/) (internet build) Republic of Molossia http://www.molossia.org/ (http://www.molossia.org/) Still pays property taxes for the land to Storey County, Nevada (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storey_County,_Nevada) which he calls "foreign aid". Réunion (unfortunately noting in english) http://www.reuniao.org/projeto4.0/inicio.htm (http://www.reuniao.org/projeto4.0/inicio.htm) Republic of Formoria http://fomoire.org/ (http://fomoire.org/) Republic of Cascadia https://zapatopi.net/cascadia/ (https://zapatopi.net/cascadia/) Empire of Atlantium http://atlantium.org/ (http://atlantium.org/) Texas Nationalist Movement https://tnm.me/ (https://tnm.me/) Vermont Republic http://vermontrepublic.org/vermont-declaration-of-independence/ and https://www.freesociety.com/ (https://www.freesociety.com/) If you know any others drop a line. I think in Slab City land is also being sold now. Apart from the Micronations there is also 6 matriarchy societies (Women Kingtoms) the MOSUO, MINANGKABAU, AKAN, BRIBRI, GARO and NAGOVISI Title: Re: Micronations Post by: Artemis3 on April 28, 2019, 09:37:12 PM Lets look at some Micronations after the recent Seastead piracy act by the Thai military dictatorship operating like a Mob. If you know any others drop a line. I think in Slab City land is also being sold now. And which one of those are internationally recognized by the major powers? I haven't checked all of them, but the principality of Sealand didn't end too well... Title: Re: Micronations Post by: LTU_btc on April 28, 2019, 09:51:21 PM Lol, one of these micronations is located in my country - it's Republic of Užupis. It's a neighbourhood of of Lithuania capital Vilnius. This republic have their own flag, anthem, constitution and unofficial currency. They celebrate their independence day on April 1st.
Personally, for me this country always been big WTF and sometimes I'm wondering what they smoke. Title: Re: Micronations Post by: ðºÞæ on April 29, 2019, 05:38:07 AM Lets look at some Micronations after the recent Seastead piracy act by the Thai military dictatorship operating like a Mob. If you know any others drop a line. I think in Slab City land is also being sold now. And which one of those are internationally recognized by the major powers? I haven't checked all of them, but the principality of Sealand didn't end too well... Most aim just a peaceful life in harmony with nature and freedom. Hoons like Thai military who operate 100% outside of the law, simply with a gun in the hand are recognized, it tells all. A society based on voluntary interactions instead of government force, is the future. Down with forces, taxes and orchestrated violence. Title: Re: Micronations Post by: Beerwizzard on April 29, 2019, 11:55:12 AM Most aim just a peaceful life in harmony with nature and freedom. Hoons like Thai military who operate 100% outside of the law, simply with a gun in the hand are recognized, it tells all. All those micronations totally depend on the legit countries, on which territory they exist. I think that even many EU countries won't tolerate any attempts to build some other nation inside their border.To make a true micronation you should be sure that property rights are fully secured in your country. Not only Thailand is that bad, it feels like only US and some other countries may allow to make a micronation inside their borders. Title: Re: Micronations Post by: ðºÞæ on April 29, 2019, 01:13:52 PM Most aim just a peaceful life in harmony with nature and freedom. Hoons like Thai military who operate 100% outside of the law, simply with a gun in the hand are recognized, it tells all. All those micronations totally depend on the legit countries, on which territory they exist........ So on which territory is Bir_Tawil? Here is wikis entry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bir_Tawil What is a legit country? The "legit" extermination far outnumbers any world war. Pol Pot executed 2.2 Mil. Mao Zedong legit killed 5 million and another 20 million starved to dead, with Hitler 17 Mil died, Leopold II disposed 15 million Congolese legally, Stalin 10, only 5 million stood in Hideki Tojo way, Kim Jong-Il, Idi Amin Dada, Lenin, Ho Chi Minh, Yakubu Gowon, Omar al-Bashir, Ismail Enver Pasha.......... all legit. Posting about not eating pork and live healthy (nothing politically) will get you legitly taken away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCOAbkTs_a4 Title: Re: Micronations Post by: Mometaskers on April 29, 2019, 03:31:10 PM Which one of those was the one located in the US? Had a good laugh when the "founder" was asked if they pay US taxes and he said it's "foreign aid".
As of now seasteading is really the only way to go and try to get away from nations' "territorial waters". Hopefully that Thailand fiasco don't discourage people. If that French Polynesia project don't also get wrecked by the government, it could provide good experience on how to make a self-sustaining settlement. Title: Re: Micronations Post by: ðºÞæ on April 29, 2019, 03:52:47 PM Which one of those was the one located in the US? Had a good laugh when the "founder" was asked if they pay US taxes and he said it's "foreign aid". Most likely The Kingdom of Talossa or The Dominion of British West FloridaAs of now seasteading is really the only way to go and try to get away from nations' "territorial waters". Hopefully that Thailand fiasco don't discourage people. If that French Polynesia project don't also get wrecked by the government, it could provide good experience on how to make a self-sustaining settlement. Title: Re: Micronations Post by: sheenshane on April 29, 2019, 07:24:44 PM Which one of those was the one located in the US? Had a good laugh when the "founder" was asked if they pay US taxes and he said it's "foreign aid". Most likely The Kingdom of Talossa or The Dominion of British West FloridaAs of now seasteading is really the only way to go and try to get away from nations' "territorial waters". Hopefully that Thailand fiasco don't discourage people. If that French Polynesia project don't also get wrecked by the government, it could provide good experience on how to make a self-sustaining settlement. This small island would possibly become seated as it is so much near to the Thai. I'm not so much sure if I am actually making a point but you may also try to check this out. This nation has a unique tradition and still have their ethnic people. Title: Re: Micronations Post by: ðºÞæ on April 29, 2019, 07:43:43 PM Which one of those was the one located in the US? Had a good laugh when the "founder" was asked if they pay US taxes and he said it's "foreign aid". Most likely The Kingdom of Talossa or The Dominion of British West FloridaAs of now seasteading is really the only way to go and try to get away from nations' "territorial waters". Hopefully that Thailand fiasco don't discourage people. If that French Polynesia project don't also get wrecked by the government, it could provide good experience on how to make a self-sustaining settlement. This small island would possibly become seated as it is so much near to the Thai. I'm not so much sure if I am actually making a point but you may also try to check this out. This nation has a unique tradition and still have their ethnic people. Nearby Nauru is much smaller, or Dominion of Melchizedek which seem to have a 50 year lease from the Marshall Islands and is currently not inhabited. Title: Re: Micronations Post by: coupable on April 29, 2019, 07:44:14 PM Most are in the process of establishing a free independent nation, like freesociety, liberland.....others have some form of recognition like Dominion of Melchizedek......some are defunct, like Rose Island, Sealand.... some are more of a joking nature. Title: Re: Micronations Post by: TheCoinGrabber on April 30, 2019, 07:20:12 PM Isn't Bir Tawil basically just desert with nothin in it? If I remember this was the "no-man's land" in the Sahara right? Once the neighboring countries get the proper agreements, the land would eventually be claimed.
Even if not, I don't think anyone would settle there. No permanent water supply, no resources, land-locked, etc. You would become dependent on your neighbors, the exact opposite a micronation's goal. Title: Re: Micronations Post by: ðºÞæ on April 30, 2019, 08:12:24 PM Isn't Bir Tawil basically just desert with nothin in it? If I remember this was the "no-man's land" in the Sahara right? Once the neighboring countries get the proper agreements, the land would eventually be claimed. Even if not, I don't think anyone would settle there. No permanent water supply, no resources, land-locked, etc. You would become dependent on your neighbors, the exact opposite a micronation's goal. That is right, nothing is there, no road, no ocean access, no resources, no people, a water well but no one knows where it is. Quote Bir Tawil is a very peculiar area. Located south of Egypt and north of Sudan, it is a trapezoid of land (about 2060 km²) wanted by neither Egypt nor by Sudan. In fact, both countries want to award it to the other. Liberland is also sandwiched between two countries but both countries want it, the opposite to Bir Tawil. Three people have laid claim to the land a Russian (Zhikharev), an Indian (Dixit ) and an American (Heaton). https://i.ibb.co/wwJLXVv/Untitled.png (https://ibb.co/pRWP8cm) Title: Re: Micronations Post by: TheCoinGrabber on May 01, 2019, 09:04:33 AM Isn't Bir Tawil basically just desert with nothin in it? If I remember this was the "no-man's land" in the Sahara right? Once the neighboring countries get the proper agreements, the land would eventually be claimed. Even if not, I don't think anyone would settle there. No permanent water supply, no resources, land-locked, etc. You would become dependent on your neighbors, the exact opposite a micronation's goal. That is right, nothing is there, no road, no ocean access, no resources, no people, a water well but no one knows where it is. Quote Bir Tawil is a very peculiar area. Located south of Egypt and north of Sudan, it is a trapezoid of land (about 2060 km²) wanted by neither Egypt nor by Sudan. In fact, both countries want to award it to the other. Just wait till they find oil there, they'll go to war over it. I mean South Sudan have oil right? Heck, even America might get involved and liberate the non-existent populace. Or maybe that's where Wakanda is located, haha! Any micronation that manages to settle AND thrive there deserves UN representation. Even UAE and KSA didn't easily got their desert liveable despite the amount of money they have. Title: Re: Micronations Post by: Beerwizzard on May 01, 2019, 01:20:57 PM So on which territory is Bir_Tawil? Here is wikis entry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bir_Tawil Well, yes. It is also possible to found a micronation on the territory, that no one cares about.What is a legit country? The "legit" extermination far outnumbers any world war. Pol Pot executed 2.2 Mil. Mao Zedong legit killed 5 million and another 20 million starved to dead, with Hitler 17 Mil died, Leopold II disposed 15 million Congolese legally, Stalin 10, only 5 million stood in Hideki Tojo way, Kim Jong-Il, Idi Amin Dada, Lenin, Ho Chi Minh, Yakubu Gowon, Omar al-Bashir, Ismail Enver Pasha.......... all legit. As legit I understand the main political powers that are in charge of the country. And it doesn't matter what are they doing because they are the law on this territory in that particular moment of time.Law, and being legit are abstract concepts. Title: Re: Micronations Post by: Mometaskers on May 10, 2019, 07:20:23 PM Which one of those was the one located in the US? Had a good laugh when the "founder" was asked if they pay US taxes and he said it's "foreign aid". Most likely The Kingdom of Talossa or The Dominion of British West FloridaAs of now seasteading is really the only way to go and try to get away from nations' "territorial waters". Hopefully that Thailand fiasco don't discourage people. If that French Polynesia project don't also get wrecked by the government, it could provide good experience on how to make a self-sustaining settlement. I did some Googling, it turns out to be Molossia. I found it coz of the creepy derpy mannequins that functions as citizens. This is also the micronation that gives away free pet rocks. ;D Title: Re: Micronations Post by: yesiam6 on May 10, 2019, 09:36:16 PM i want to start a micronation how do i get started do i need a private army to start one?
Can i open a crowdfunding for that on kickstarter? Title: Re: Micronations Post by: ðºÞæ on May 11, 2019, 04:57:34 AM Which one of those was the one located in the US? Had a good laugh when the "founder" was asked if they pay US taxes and he said it's "foreign aid". Most likely The Kingdom of Talossa or The Dominion of British West FloridaAs of now seasteading is really the only way to go and try to get away from nations' "territorial waters". Hopefully that Thailand fiasco don't discourage people. If that French Polynesia project don't also get wrecked by the government, it could provide good experience on how to make a self-sustaining settlement. I did some Googling, it turns out to be Molossia. I found it coz of the creepy derpy mannequins that functions as citizens. This is also the micronation that gives away free pet rocks. ;D Thanks added to the list even so he is paying tax, a nation suppose to collect it. http://www.molossia.org/ i want to start a micronation how do i get started do i need a private army to start one? Anyone can start as long as you have unclaimed land, which there is none. Can i open a crowdfunding for that on kickstarter? Title: Re: Micronations Post by: Quickseller on May 11, 2019, 04:53:45 PM A society based on voluntary interactions instead of government force, is the future. Down with forces, taxes and orchestrated violence. Even without a "government" that regulates its people, it would always be possible for a number of people to forum an organization that creates regulations and imposes taxes on people in a certain area. I am specifically referring to something along the lines of the mafia or gangs we see today -- they use the threat of violence to impose rules on people that live in their "territory" and routinely extort money out of local businesses. When there is a "government" it will be accountable to its people, but when the entity imposing the rules is a mafia/gang, they are not accountable to anyone. In reality, not having a "government" that imposes taxes and regulations will result in less freedoms for the majority of people. Title: Re: Micronations Post by: ðºÞæ on May 19, 2019, 04:15:54 PM Another one added Akzivland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSWfOYvJM-M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSWfOYvJM-M) Technically it has the same status as Hong Kong once had before the lease ended. Title: Re: Micronations Post by: numbersgame on May 20, 2019, 05:22:01 PM I suppose you're only referring to unrecognized micronations?
If not - what about Andorra (https://andorraguides.com/), Monaco, San Marino, Liechtenstein, the Vatican.... even Malta (https://maltaguides.co/) and Montenegro (https://montenegroguides.co/)... (some people consider them too big). Title: Re: Micronations Post by: ðºÞæ on May 20, 2019, 06:45:09 PM I suppose you're only referring to unrecognized micronations? If not - what about Andorra, Monaco, San Marino, Liechtenstein, the Vatican.... even Malta (some people consider it too big). Quote A micronation, a model country or new country project With the exception of the vatican all others listed arguably not micronation all have a population above 30k, same as Gibraltar.Smaller nations are Palau with over 20,000 Nauru 12,000 Tuvalu 10,000 Recognized, so if a military dictatorship like Thailand give someplace the ok than its legit? New added Réunion (unfortunately noting in english) http://www.reuniao.org/projeto4.0/inicio.htm (http://www.reuniao.org/projeto4.0/inicio.htm) Republic of Formoria http://fomoire.org/ (http://fomoire.org/) Republic of Cascadia https://zapatopi.net/cascadia/ (https://zapatopi.net/cascadia/) Empire of Atlantium http://atlantium.org/ (http://atlantium.org/) Texas Nationalist Movement https://tnm.me/ (https://tnm.me/) Vermont Republic http://vermontrepublic.org/vermont-declaration-of-independence/ |
