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Title: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: GreatArkansas on April 29, 2019, 08:48:10 AM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

EDIT: This is "what if" scenario, I don't tell that it will happen exactly.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: Genemind on April 29, 2019, 09:13:53 AM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?


There will always be new people coming in to trading. And there's no actual perfect tool that will assure you 100% market speculation in trading. Even expert traders lose some of their trades. The market is affected by a lot of factors that is why it is unpredictable.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: sheenshane on April 29, 2019, 09:23:05 AM
Since the crypto market is unpredictable I think nothing's a perfect tool that can work 100% accurate in trading. It should have a loss even how expert you are in technical analysis or indicators that you had. Errors and wrong setting on tools are counted as a loss in traders. Not all the time we have a perfect trader and also there's no such time always have a loser.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: Haunebu on April 29, 2019, 10:30:55 AM
Perfect traders in this extremely volatile market? Are you serious op? I have seen some of the most experienced traders quitting the market since their tactics never worked in the long term.

The future of trading in this volatile market might produce more winners and less losers if the volatility decreases over time.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: iqlimasyadiqa on April 29, 2019, 12:40:56 PM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

a trader who has the ability to analyze and read market movements they also have the opportunity to achieve a large amount of profit. indeed, the risk that we get will always be there, but with the ability, knowledge and skill, a trader can increase the possibility of making a profit. anything can happen in the trading world, so no one can confirm it. time will continue and a trader must be prepared to accept all situations and conditions that occur.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: Kelvinid on April 29, 2019, 12:45:43 PM
Since the crypto market is unpredictable I think nothing's a perfect tool that can work 100% accurate in trading. It should have a loss even how expert you are in technical analysis or indicators that you had. Errors and wrong setting on tools are counted as a loss in traders. Not all the time we have a perfect trader and also there's no such time always have a loser.
The future of our trades depends on how we get touch on it. Its all about how we manage and do the right things in trading.
There is no sense actually if we aren't effective in using those tools or even not knowing how to used it.  Losing will always be a part of a crypto trader but it is not a reason to quit.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: Rana590 on April 29, 2019, 01:21:30 PM
You should remember the new user also. Day by day many new user are joining in the crypto world. At the first time, they will not familiar with trading very well. Besides, prediction about cryptocurrency is really hard. Trading is not equal for the all kinds of people.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: creeps on April 29, 2019, 01:41:21 PM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

That’s not possible because everyone will take profit and they have to sell their coin in order for them to enjoy it, so there’s still buy and sell in the market which makes it volatile. Traders still lose the money, and the skills that they have is not always working because bear trend is normal and it can’t be stopped by just holding. If everyone makes money, government will run to you and make their own investigation because of this easy money.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: arpon11 on April 29, 2019, 03:01:54 PM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

If we all know how to analyze the market and make profitable trading decision the market will become unprofitable and we would have very difficult time to make money.  The skillful traders makes profits from the market because those that lose money are many and it will continue.  We cannot all become professionals over night and newbies will always be there as it also exist in other face of market.  If it is the other  ways round it will be very difficult for  the market to be profitable for all of us and the skillful,  knowledge,  understand and professionals will always makes money.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: pawanjain on April 29, 2019, 05:08:22 PM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

Nobody is perfect and everybody has their own speciality. So, if everybody knows how to trade well, there will still be people who are better than you and who are not.
So the dumb ones will still make mistakes and that will earn you profits. Obviously you will make mistakes too which will the better ones profit.
That's how the cycle goes on.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: jems on April 29, 2019, 05:44:08 PM
If that really happens I don't think trading will have a challenge. Because behind every definite advantage there is a loss and we must be ready to be one of them.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on April 29, 2019, 05:59:48 PM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

Yes some people will still lose out in trades.
Perfect example is stock and forex trading, They have been here for a while before crypto trading but i can bet you over 80% of the world populations knows nothing about stock or forex trading.

New people will always come in no matter what. It's like an endless loop


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: ryzaadit on April 29, 2019, 06:06:29 PM
In the stock market always have some percentage about a succesfull trader, most of 90% trader losing his capital on investment like Forex, Trading Cryptocurrency & Binary other 10% It's a successful trader some of the people join an investment sometimes because see this 10% People succes on his trading.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: LogitechMouse on April 30, 2019, 02:15:07 AM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

I don't think this will happen. First of all, there are always newbies in trading cryptocurrency and there are some who will try trading and will lost their money. Second, since cryptocurrency is unpredictable nobody can make a perfect trade. Even the professional traders will lose some of their money although they will gain more money.

There are some people who will lose their trade and these are the newcomers in trading world. Its always profitable in trading. It will just depend on how you will trade. If you are good enough to get profit then good for you but for those newbies, they will experience losing their money first.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: nc50lc on April 30, 2019, 02:32:38 AM
Everyone's discarding the fact that this is a "What if" scenario and answering "it can't be"  ::)

@GreatArkansas You have a baseball cap and you must be a WO veteran or at least a regular, I thought you should be well-informed.
Here's the answer: it will be a race, the slowest will lose or at least won't benefit from it as there will be NO buying order for the losing side (you said everyone is an expert).
Who will buy if it is obvious to them that it will drop even more for the next month or so.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: GreatArkansas on April 30, 2019, 03:20:50 AM
Everyone's discarding the fact that this is a "What if" scenario and answering "it can't be"  ::)
You got it. I just ignore most of them, this is "what if" scenario that is much impossibble to happen.

Who will buy if it is obvious to them that it will drop even more for the next month or so.
This one makes me confuse as if all traders are all the same knowledge. If this so, no one will be a loser nor a winner, right?


If we will consider those newbies (in this "what if" scenario) that will enter on trading, then they will become the losers and winners are those people already well-knowledge on trading.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: nc50lc on April 30, 2019, 03:36:08 AM
-snip-
If we will consider those newbies (in this "what if" scenario) that will enter on trading, then they will become the losers and winners are those people already well-knowledge on trading.
Yes, but realistically, that's what happening.
The ones in the losing sides are either the newbies or those who are "cashing-in or cashing-out" regardless of the price, mostly deposited from external sources like mining and services.
I've seen many specially in our local exchange when people usually sell their cryptos (at loss) even if there will be an expected rise or the price is currently at the bottom.

In this "What if" scenario, most traders will be the winner, the late ones may not;
as long as there are people who's at the other side of the market who aren't traders but casual buyers/sellers that fuels the supply.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: mirawantirinjana on April 30, 2019, 06:07:09 AM
If that really happens I don't think trading will have a challenge. Because behind every definite advantage there is a loss and we must be ready to be one of them.
trade does have its own art when we become winners and when we become losers, I strongly agree with your opinion that we must be ready to be both.
but we also have to take into account where we live more, the winner's position or more in the loser position?

that is an indicator of our ability to trade in the future or the next trade.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: Ipwich on April 30, 2019, 06:08:56 AM
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What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works?

That is not possible, you are like saying that everyone knows how to win, it doesn't goes like that in trading.
The reality is, if there are people who are making money here, some are definitely losing their money, we have good and bad traders and the good makes money.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on April 30, 2019, 07:05:57 AM
Simple, we'll all be winners but not at the same time, just like forex trading, with all the sophisticated tools used for analysing the market by the big firms, sometime they lose the trade not because they were not smart enough but due to the law of the market. For a buy order to be executed there must be a sell order. When you see a profit for short term (sell order) another trader is seeing a profit for long term (buy order). That's just how it'll work.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: udidrone on April 30, 2019, 08:39:05 AM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

People who get FOMO will always come, only time for them to know how market work that make different. And in that time, pump and dump price will always happen so that thing maybe impossible to realized. But maybe if people know about it, price will stable because all of them wait for good moment to make decision.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: Ipwich on April 30, 2019, 09:09:27 AM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

People who get FOMO will always come, only time for them to know how market work that make different. And in that time, pump and dump price will always happen so that thing maybe impossible to realized. But maybe if people know about it, price will stable because all of them wait for good moment to make decision.
Though this market has improve and matured a bit, but there are still investors here who luck knowledge, they came here thinking crypto could bring quick return where in fact it's not the reality. With them, they are the types of people who will feed the smart with their hard earn money, it cannot happen that everyone will be smart and everyone is making money in this risky crypto space.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: mersal on April 30, 2019, 09:35:33 AM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

EDIT: This is "what if" scenario, I don't tell that it will happen exactly.
loss is happening like they are not completely get lost all their money but it will be happening like little by little for their inexperienced retainer that is the problem for the trader who had not been complete interest in urban survey for the long time


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: rizkyhiw on April 30, 2019, 10:10:20 AM
Perfect traders in this extremely volatile market? Are you serious op? I have seen some of the most experienced traders quitting the market since their tactics never worked in the long term.

The future of trading in this volatile market might produce more winners and less losers if the volatility decreases over time.
Did you not see it adding the word "What if" it was only a dream that would not happen in the world of crypto trading, relax friends, he was just joking.

If indeed everyone is created to be a professional, I think all of that is not a very serious obstacle, but in terms of their economic constraints or in terms of technical exchanges manipulated by the developer, I don't know what will happen if everyone is like that and I don't think as far as you and don't make unreasonable thoughts.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: milewilda on April 30, 2019, 10:42:32 AM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

EDIT: This is "what if" scenario, I don't tell that it will happen exactly.
If that happens then there would be no market on the first place.Why? because people would just wait up for the right time to sell if someone buys.Even if
this is a "what if" scenario then these things are really impossible to happen.There would always be loser and winners no matter what happen.We are engage on a market
which do focuses out on selling and buying or simply do have interactions.If there were no activity yet all people are waiting then there would be no movements at all.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: BeGoods on April 30, 2019, 12:11:53 PM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?


There will always be new people coming in to trading. And there's no actual perfect tool that will assure you 100% market speculation in trading. Even expert traders lose some of their trades. The market is affected by a lot of factors that is why it is unpredictable.
Thats true, I think there will always be a new trader, and it will always complement the market. even though all traders have skills, it's not a problem. the market price is influenced by trends and news, and the expert trader has no power to regulate it. and not all buyers are traders too? so don't worry too much about how market works.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: pey on April 30, 2019, 12:47:23 PM
''will know all how it works?'' How it works really? Clearly that's not a meaningful scenerio, but besides that trading is basically not a field you can ask a question about like how it works. It does not work.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: Indrawan77 on April 30, 2019, 12:55:39 PM
Indicators cant be 100% accurate, each traders got its own strategy, different timing, execution and exchanges going to end up with different result and the market can sudden change and make some traders losing money, since the market is unpredictable, no matter how good the trader's skill there will be chances that the trader predict the wrong movement


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: wall101 on April 30, 2019, 01:08:43 PM
Their will be a loser if some traders don't do better for their work in trading and specially for newbies that they don't know how to manage it in the first start of trading.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: maydna on April 30, 2019, 01:46:09 PM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

EDIT: This is "what if" scenario, I don't tell that it will happen exactly.

There will be a battle in the market and trader who have a large balance could win the trade, but that is not always happening because trader who has balance and has good skills in trading will also win the trade. The market itself will move so fast according to the buy and sell order because every trader wants to make a profit from the trade.

There will be people who still lose them trade and the problem could be in anything like they don't have a good skill in trading, they don't have enough balance to follow the trade, etc. But trading will be still profitable especially for a trader who will know when to take the profit and they know how to trade with good.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: dark08 on April 30, 2019, 01:50:56 PM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

EDIT: This is "what if" scenario, I don't tell that it will happen exactly.

This is what if scenario then traders will earn a good profit because of knowing the flow and the system of winning and losing but this is impossible to happen because new traders will come in trading industry in the future so no one will became perfect traders because no one is perfect in doing trading.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: Capt00 on April 30, 2019, 01:57:54 PM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

EDIT: This is "what if" scenario, I don't tell that it will happen exactly.

This is what if scenario then traders will earn a good profit because of knowing the flow and the system of winning and losing but this is impossible to happen because new traders will come in trading industry in the future so no one will became perfect traders because no one is perfect in doing trading.
But I think there's having big different between newbies and have experienced in trader just like in how many months old. The worst happens I guess of course the newbie one compared to old ones. So there's happen that no one got perfect in trading and it should be a balance. There's a loser and there's a winner and take huge profit. Indeed, no one is perfect in trading even how old are you there will such time you might be lost.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: target on April 30, 2019, 02:10:24 PM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

EDIT: This is "what if" scenario, I don't tell that it will happen exactly.

This is what if scenario then traders will earn a good profit because of knowing the flow and the system of winning and losing but this is impossible to happen because new traders will come in trading industry in the future so no one will became perfect traders because no one is perfect in doing trading.
But I think there's having big different between newbies and have experienced in trader just like in how many months old. The worst happens I guess of course the newbie one compared to old ones. So there's happen that no one got perfect in trading and it should be a balance. There's a loser and there's a winner and take huge profit. Indeed, no one is perfect in trading even how old are you there will such time you might be lost.

There will always be newbies and I myself listen to all the fundamental analysis while some are into indicators. But if it happens that newbies also learn all these, there will be tight trading where all will be waiting for the break outs. Not all will win of course but the big traders will always seem to appear like controlling the market.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: gantez on April 30, 2019, 02:35:10 PM
Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Are you thinking that those known as expert traders don't lose money or trades ;D , they do. I think the difference is the experts understand or have better knowledge either to manage their losses.

So if all of us have the knowledge, losing will still occur at times.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: rysea2 on April 30, 2019, 03:06:12 PM
I think if that really happened then everyone would be confused in trading because if everyone knew the way to win there would never be anyone who suffered defeat. We know that if there is no one to lose then there is no winner. Maybe that was in my mind and sorry if my words were wrong.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: harizen on April 30, 2019, 05:17:37 PM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

EDIT: This is "what if" scenario, I don't tell that it will happen exactly.

There is no guaranteed profits even how professional you are. Crypto is volatile. How come being a professional trader can predict the exact scenarion that will happen in the future. What's their advantage is, they can make up a speculation that might closed to realistic thing to happen. In other words, their knowledge will increase their winning percentage plus the fact that they able to managed properly their funds.

Indicators, chart readings are references in making strategy. Not a tool for having a 100% winning.

A professional trader still lose so there's no "what if".


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: beerlover on April 30, 2019, 05:40:42 PM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?
Lol, do you know how long trading has been in existence and yet many people still loose to one another, it will be impossible for everyone to know it all, trading is something that you have to keep developing strategy for it on a timely basis, so strategy is not a constant thing.

We will have some people that will always be gurus in strategy than others which will never have an end. So people will always lose their trade for others to win, aside that, as new generations rises, they will need to first learn how to trade and as they learn, they will keep losing till they are perfect enough to learn through their mistakes.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: Wingzcrypto2018 on April 30, 2019, 06:29:24 PM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

EDIT: This is "what if" scenario, I don't tell that it will happen exactly.

For you able to know mate, even the trading experts faced of being lose in the market none of the traders didn't experience of failures here.
In short, all of us need to face that for us to become successful in the end. Because there are only 2 reason why trading operate it is because of buying and selling, just simple as that.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: maxreish on May 01, 2019, 06:21:39 AM
Here's the reality.
Regardless of how expert you are or how long you are trading, if whales entered the market, the indicators and all the possible strategies will become useless. That's the truth. So, it is very important that every trader should learn how to set a stop loss everytime we enter trading. Not just to learn every strategies, every indicators but to learn how to exit in the right time by triggering some stop loss.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: exstasie on May 01, 2019, 07:13:37 AM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

EDIT: This is "what if" scenario, I don't tell that it will happen exactly.

Understanding market psychology, S/R, candlestick and indicator analysis, etc. gives you an edge over lots of other traders. It leaves you selling at a profit when others are buying the top and vice versa. In effect, your profits come from less experienced and less patient traders.

If everyone understood these things equally, you would no longer have that edge. Then your profits would evaporate and we'd all be slowly losing money to exchange trading fees.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: udidrone on May 01, 2019, 09:17:19 AM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

People who get FOMO will always come, only time for them to know how market work that make different. And in that time, pump and dump price will always happen so that thing maybe impossible to realized. But maybe if people know about it, price will stable because all of them wait for good moment to make decision.
Though this market has improve and matured a bit, but there are still investors here who luck knowledge, they came here thinking crypto could bring quick return where in fact it's not the reality. With them, they are the types of people who will feed the smart with their hard earn money, it cannot happen that everyone will be smart and everyone is making money in this risky crypto space.
This circulation always happen. Because newcomers will always come especially who think crypto is easy way to get money instantly. I hope people will understand first what they do before they make decision.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: rijaljun on May 01, 2019, 10:12:56 AM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

EDIT: This is "what if" scenario, I don't tell that it will happen exactly.
In the economic field, There is market efficient hypothesis which divide the market into three types : weak form, semi-strong form, and strong form. In the strong form efficiency, no one (including insiders) can take advantage from their information because everyone have the same information with others including private information. If everyone knows what to trade and what to sell, then no one will get an abnormal return from their investment. It doesn't mean no one can take profit, everyone can take profit but not really significant. It's called strong form efficiency


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: GreatArkansas on May 01, 2019, 10:29:21 AM
This circulation always happen. Because newcomers will always come especially who think crypto is easy way to get money instantly. I hope people will understand first what they do before they make decision.
What if you exclude those newcomers? let's assume that all people in trading know how it works as I said in the OP, they are all well-knowledge.
What will be the result then? That's what I mean, some of the posts above are nonsense. Maybe I just didn't elaborate well the scenario or they understand well what I want to say.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: playboy654 on May 01, 2019, 02:50:01 PM
The future of trading is completely different from today's situation it will be the most useful jobs for the future uses so if we keep the connectivity trading from today there will be lots of opportunity for development and huge money making opportunity will came through trading cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: greenclub09 on May 01, 2019, 04:24:38 PM
i guess in the future when cryptocurrency is more popular and accepted by more and more countries, the trading between exchanges will be much more easy and convinient for us when we can easily have more places to trade, moreover i believe we can have more stable cryptos to trade when the technologies has developed to minimized the manipulations of whales, or the value of cryptos increase so we can have higher profit in the fututre.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: el kaka22 on May 01, 2019, 06:16:10 PM
There doesn't need to be any "losers" in trading if everyone plays their card right and if everyone becomes a trading expert then they will use precisely this to increase the bitcoin price constantly. Say you buy bitcoin at 10 dollars, if you sell at 5 dollars you lose but if you sell at 15 you win money right? Well think of the person that bought at 15 and he sells at 20, well he made profit too.

Now, yes you are missing out on potential profits because you could have bought at 10 and sell at 20 but at the same time this way 2 people made profit. This can continue in an infinite circle where whoever buys sells higher and it keeps going higher constantly like that. Do not think that is impossible because its quite possible and that is why inflation is and it can happen here too, just not very quickly, it could take months even year to reach that level.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: sana54210 on May 02, 2019, 05:43:21 AM
I think if that really happened then everyone would be confused in trading because if everyone knew the way to win there would never be anyone who suffered defeat. We know that if there is no one to lose then there is no winner. Maybe that was in my mind and sorry if my words were wrong.
If everyone knew how to trade, then indicators would be useless too because every line will become static, but unfortunately the influence fundamental analysis has on the market will never allow trade to be generally known completely.  So there will always be a looser and there will always be a winner no matter how knowledgeable we think we are.

The good thing is that we will not always loose, there are times that we might lose but we will realize that we are always winning more. We just need to set our eyes more on the winning side than on the losing side, if we have this mentality of always winning, then success will always be ours.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: Mpamaegbu on May 02, 2019, 06:44:07 AM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

EDIT: This is "what if" scenario, I don't tell that it will happen exactly.
Let me take your "IF" and make it a certainty so that the assumption becomes a reality. Let me tell you what will happen - traders will LOSE big time. All traders will take the same positions at the same time since they are using the same indicators to navigate the market. Look at the way it works (at least I know this with Forex trading): The big banks will always monitor traders sentiments and then trade again them. If traders buy, the big banks sell off and vice versa. This site https://www.dailyfx.com/sentiment is a point of reference for these banks. I guess the whales in cryptocurrency have their reference points too. This isn't going to be any good. The entire market will collapse.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: hemendrasingh123 on May 02, 2019, 09:32:07 AM
There will always be a risk in trading the cryptocurrency. As we all know cryptocurrency is a decentralized currency. Even if you are an expert in trading but there will always be some percent that you might face loss in trading. So in order to get rid of facing loss, you might have all the knowledge related to all the latest trends in the Bitcoin Market. The main factor which will decide the profit or loss will be the Cryptocurrency Exchange Software (https://theninehertz.com/blog/how-to-setup-a-cryptocurrency-exchange-software/) you are using for trading. The first and most important thing to master is technical analysis - reading and understanding market trends. Beyond this, the fastest way to make the most amount of profit is by margin trading with high leverage. However, inexperienced traders are not advised to margin trade because it is somewhat riskier. When you trade with leverage the ‘margin’ is the collateral required to enter the magnified trade and is dictated by how large a position you decide to enter with the assistance of the crypto brokerage/platform.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: guoyu78 on May 02, 2019, 01:06:45 PM
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What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works?

That is not possible, you are like saying that everyone knows how to win, it doesn't goes like that in trading.
The reality is, if there are people who are making money here, some are definitely losing their money, we have good and bad traders and the good makes money.
Either everyone out of a million who would be trading in crypto would make millions or either a million out there would make nothing. It does not work like that I agree. Trading is something you have to learn, through experience and by researching in your respective areas which enables you make right decisions about picking up the right coin in the right time and sell it as soon as you are above your average costs.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: goaldigger on May 02, 2019, 02:21:06 PM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

EDIT: This is "what if" scenario, I don't tell that it will happen exactly.


This is so impossible because even professional traders or traders who dedicated their life on this prefession sometimes fails. Market is still unpredictable even though you got some datas to analyse. Why? Because there are always a bear, bull and whales existing in every market waiting for the right moment to attack its prey.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: Slow death on May 02, 2019, 03:21:12 PM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works?

Have you ever wondered how many people were able to predict the price of bitcoin and have hit the forecast?

these guys: Wences Casares; Tim Draper; Mike Novogratz; Tom Lee; Sonny Singh; Sam Doctor; Ronnie Moas; Fran Strajnar; Bobby Lee;
Zhao Dong; Anthony Pompliano; Arthur Hayes and Vinny Lingham. are people who understand economy, are big investors, are trades, not even these guys can not get their forecasts right.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: etherixdevs on May 02, 2019, 03:49:09 PM
Forecasts can be predictive only if there are many data... that's the difference between forex and crypto market. In Forex they have years of analysis and indicators and algorithm, can be used with some reliability. But in Crypro Market this can't be considered reliable yet. Furthermore, economic news changes any kind of market, and right now also Crypto Market is influenced by some bad or good news:(


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: agatha90 on May 02, 2019, 04:21:56 PM
Being successful in trading is indeed difficult, because not everyone can learn indicators. When is the time we buy and sell. And we also have to continue to pay attention to the movement of the graph, so we don't lose the moment


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: jvdp on May 02, 2019, 07:01:00 PM
Being successful in trading is indeed difficult, because not everyone can learn indicators. When is the time we buy and sell. And we also have to continue to pay attention to the movement of the graph, so we don't lose the moment

If you use the site or binance application frequently for one month. Definetely you will be able to understand the indicators and you can start trading but many of the people among not that millionaire to invest and take risk at trading platforms.

Other hand trading is small size of gambling all the time. If you confirm the resistance value seeing the candles also we cannot 100 percentage you will be profitable at the end.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: qwertyup23 on May 02, 2019, 09:47:42 PM
What will happen if everyone in trading will know all how it works? Like if everyone will become a well-knowledge trader, for example, we will know all how to use different indicators, supports, and resistance, etc. ?  :-\

Will some people still lose their trade? Who will become loser on every trade if that will happen? It will still profitable to trade?

EDIT: This is "what if" scenario, I don't tell that it will happen exactly.

Although I understood that this is a hypothetical scenario, it is just impossible for the perfect streak to happen. Investors and traders will always buy and sell their coins which compromise the market volume and trade. Without people losing on their trades, no one would also profit.

Cryptocurrencies are a very volatile type of investment, wherein the market is relatively difficult to read and analyze. People over the years have adapted and developed techniques in order to grasp the situation and improve their trades but they still sometimes fall short from their trades. Y

Everything starts with knowing your goals, developing an actual plan, and materializing every step in order to fullfil that current goal. Losing is inevitable so as winning.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: Gaff on May 02, 2019, 10:10:15 PM
Being successful in trading is indeed difficult, because not everyone can learn indicators. When is the time we buy and sell. And we also have to continue to pay attention to the movement of the graph, so we don't lose the moment

If you use the site or binance application frequently for one month. Definetely you will be able to understand the indicators and you can start trading but many of the people among not that millionaire to invest and take risk at trading platforms.

Other hand trading is small size of gambling all the time. If you confirm the resistance value seeing the candles also we cannot 100 percentage you will be profitable at the end.

Even with a running business we can't expect all situations will become successful, sometimes we need to experience downfalls. Same with trading, risking our finances is somewhat a gambling like scenario upon seeing your asset drowned towards market rise and fall. By virtue of positive determination, our future will decide at random instances whether profit gains or losses. Trading depends on an unpredicatable market trend, so keep riding on and take long term strategy.


Title: Re: Future of Trading, losers and winners.
Post by: Reid on May 02, 2019, 10:51:23 PM
Then having a trading platform will make no sense anymore.

Let us make a game as an example like Playstation 1.
There is a unit for the said console called "Gameshark". It is a device which have codes to cheat the game like infinite money or just getting strong at early levels.

When that happens it gets boring. There is no fun anymore.
With trading the fun part is speculating and guessing which way it will go.
There is no accurate prediction there, all traders should make their own summaries.
Cheating is not good for business.