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Title: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: MatthewLM on November 09, 2011, 08:28:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks43WZftoqA

Shouldn't Americans be very scared? Shouldn't they have been standing against this?

What about the many securitised camps that are either official called prison camps, residential camps or relocation camps but have scary resemblance to concentration camps? Here is one example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4

And I cannot really explain this one  ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3zSDdm-SHI


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: btc_artist on November 09, 2011, 08:29:55 PM
Can't watch the videos right now, how about a quick summary?


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: Hawker on November 09, 2011, 08:39:09 PM
First video first 10 seconds has some bozo ranting with black helicopters in the background.  That's about as far as I got.


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: MatthewLM on November 09, 2011, 08:41:38 PM
I think the first video was showing some Rex 84 martial law training. The second showed a camp with strange buildings, helicopter access and rail access. It was a large area secured with inner pointing barbed fencing. Third video showing what were said to be plastic coffins piled up.


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: Hawker on November 09, 2011, 08:45:41 PM
I think the first video was showing some Rex 84 martial law training. The second showed a camp with strange buildings, helicopter access and rail access. It was a large area secured with inner pointing barbed fencing. Third video showing what were said to be plastic coffins piled up.

Is there a point you want to make ?


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: RodeoX on November 09, 2011, 08:54:03 PM
The medical reserve corp that I'm part of trains with FEMA for mass casualty events. There is nothing shocking to me about stacks of coffins and relocation camps. What do you think an A-bomb event would look like? These are the assets we will need.


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: MatthewLM on November 09, 2011, 09:20:08 PM
So you think this is all WW3 preparation? Why do you need prison camps for a nuclear war event? You think there will be an army invasion so there needs to be POW camps? You agree with martial law?


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: Hawker on November 09, 2011, 09:31:11 PM
So you think this is all WW3 preparation? Why do you need prison camps for a nuclear war event? You think there will be an army invasion so there needs to be POW camps? You agree with martial law?

If there is a world war and the US gets nukes and invaded, then being prepared would seem a good idea.  You don't really want to be making this stuff up as you go along.


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: MatthewLM on November 09, 2011, 09:40:33 PM
Why not start by stop starting wars abroad and creating terrorism, for goodness sake!

Martial law is horrific in any circumstance, even in an invasion. Just as drafting is horrific. It's all war crimes to me. Forcing people into prison camps is especially evil.

You seriously support this?

Also we don't know if they are going to use these regardless of war and I still wont be surprised if these camps were a lot more horrible than you may assume. You should be really worried about this.


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: Hawker on November 09, 2011, 09:48:09 PM
Why not start by stop starting wars abroad and creating terrorism, for goodness sake!

Martial law is horrific in any circumstance, even in an invasion. Just as drafting is horrific. It's all war crimes to me. Forcing people into prison camps is especially evil.

You seriously support this?

Also we don't know if they are going to use these regardless of war and I still wont be surprised if these camps were a lot more horrible than you may assume. You should be really worried about this.

100% agree except with the part about worrying.  Its the government - we pay them to be prepared.  Worrying about whether they have prepared would be like buying a dog and barking yourself.


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: MatthewLM on November 09, 2011, 09:52:56 PM
Worried about how these tools will be used and if they will be used, because it's completely totalitarian.

The USA is gradually becoming more totalitarian as we can all see so clearly but this shows they have additional tools for terror which would be horrible wether in war time or not.


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: Hawker on November 09, 2011, 09:57:17 PM
Worried about how these tools will be used and if they will be used, because it's completely totalitarian.

The USA is gradually becoming more totalitarian as we can all see so clearly but this shows they have additional tools for terror which would be horrible wether in war time or not.

Yes. Let's go back to the good old days before the USA made preparations like this.  Question is when to go back to?

1774 anyone?


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: MatthewLM on November 09, 2011, 10:00:23 PM
We shouldn't go back to anything. We should look for a new philosophy for human interaction that works. I say it is time we treated each other with respect and as sovereign individuals.


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: Gabi on November 09, 2011, 10:31:53 PM
Protip: they aren't coffins  ::)


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: MatthewLM on November 09, 2011, 10:32:52 PM
What the heck are they?


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: Gabi on November 10, 2011, 06:36:05 AM
Troll detected.

Protip 2: the fact that you don't know what they are, don't imply that THEN they are coffins  ::) Like you spammed in the title.

Did you ever saw coffins such these being used as coffins somewhere? Where?


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: RodeoX on November 10, 2011, 03:41:09 PM
Troll detected.

Protip 2: the fact that you don't know what they are, don't imply that THEN they are coffins  ::) Like you spammed in the title.

Did you ever saw coffins such these being used as coffins somewhere? Where?
I hear what your saying, but those do look like the "Hurcules" coffins used for mass casualty.

http://disasterandemergencysurvival.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/coffins.jpg


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: MatthewLM on November 10, 2011, 08:14:06 PM
There are videos showing people owning the land admitting that there were leasing it for storage to the US government. You could refuse to take their word for it. Otherwise, why would the US government want these things? Why would anyone else want these things in mass storage?


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: JeffK on November 10, 2011, 08:15:08 PM
Plastic coffins are stupid, I hope when I die people feed me to Lions or something, or throw me in a pit in the ground and plant a tree on top or something. Using coffins is a waste.


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: MatthewLM on November 10, 2011, 08:35:38 PM
You want a coffin for a funeral don't you? "And now we flop the body into the ground".


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: SgtSpike on November 10, 2011, 09:21:25 PM
What about a virus/plague?  You don't want to be burying those bodies directly in the ground, or they could continue to poison the area.  Placing any of the deceased directly into a plastic tub sounds like a lot better idea than leaving them laying around until they can be buried, or burying them in the ground without any protection where it could taint water supplies, etc.

I'm with RodeoX - it's better to be prepared for whatever happens.  Just because they are preparing for something like that to happen does not mean they are PLANNING for something like that to happen.


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: ALPHA. on November 10, 2011, 09:24:18 PM
Yeah, coffins weren't invented out of superstitious tradition but for very practical reasons. Dead bodies floating out into riverbeds and water sources got old after awhile.


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: RodeoX on November 11, 2011, 12:52:47 AM
What about a virus/plague?  You don't want to be burying those bodies directly in the ground, or they could continue to poison the area. ...
Exactly. If 50k people are suddenly dead from a quake, disease becomes a huge issue. And notice how the "concentration camps" are empty. Doesn't it make more sense that FEMA would be involved because that is the kind of thing needed in an emergency?



Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: JeffK on November 11, 2011, 08:18:57 AM
You want a coffin for a funeral don't you? "And now we flop the body into the ground".

Sure, what would I care? I'm dead.

Prop open the mouth of my corpse and let everyone who hated me piss in it at my funeral for all I care. "I" won't exist anymore, "my" opinion won't matter.


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: elggawf on November 12, 2011, 04:22:58 PM
Full burial is a waste now anyway. I have it in my will that I demand a funeral pyre in the Norse tradition. The more smoke the better, I've actually held on to every used tire that's come off my cars because I want them all used to help make more smoke (they are technically possessions), but mostly because paying $3 for someone to dispose of them is for chumps.

Floating me out on a lake is optional, and I leave the logistics of doing all this legally as one final joke on my family because I'm so awesome I deserve it.


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: MatthewLM on November 12, 2011, 09:37:56 PM
I may consider purchasing one of those cryonic plans where I can freeze my brain or entire body in hope for future medical advances that will theoretically allow me and others to cheat death. "theoretically" however...

You can make monthly payments I think I once read or you can make one off payments. A one off payment for brain preservation starts at $90,000, I believe I once read. Worth it for a shot for a longer life?

What about a virus/plague?  You don't want to be burying those bodies directly in the ground, or they could continue to poison the area.  Placing any of the deceased directly into a plastic tub sounds like a lot better idea than leaving them laying around until they can be buried, or burying them in the ground without any protection where it could taint water supplies, etc.

I'm with RodeoX - it's better to be prepared for whatever happens.  Just because they are preparing for something like that to happen does not mean they are PLANNING for something like that to happen.

But look at the martial law training. Don't you dislike that? And surely FEMA re-location camps are also scary?


Title: Re: Martial law, prison/death camps and plastic coffins...
Post by: SgtSpike on November 14, 2011, 04:50:32 PM
But look at the martial law training. Don't you dislike that? And surely FEMA re-location camps are also scary?
*shrug*