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It has been going three days Bittrex has launched IEO for "ocean" coin. But seems still now 17% remain of IEO token. Last IEO was closed within few seconds. Wondering why still not sold out current IEO on Bittrex. Are investors realizing that IEO is silent scam? Because on last IEO on Bittrex lots of investor's got REKT. Perhaps that's why investors worried about their funds.

What do you think? There is any other reason?

I feel a pain in my eyes with this kind of grammar mistake: "Is investors realizing...". IEO is just a trend building on people's hype. Just like ICO, it's not a scam itself. Regarding Bittrex's latest IEO: Ocean Network, it failed as a result from this exchange's previous IEO - VeriBlock. VeriBlock was not really a failure but it failed to cause hype.

I think no depends on the project that released a IEO,Before investing must have a review on the project and make research about it to insure the investment will make profits,Don't invest on unpopular projects and invest only on active projects like yanu they offer an good potential tokens that we can make profits throughout months so what are you waiting for dont waste chances go an invest on it.

In fact, Bittrex is an US exchange and very compliant with US law. They are not allowed to manipulate the price of their coins (flash pump & dump) like other Chinese exchanges. Therefore, it is difficult to attract investors to participate in IEO.

and what? you think all ieo's must be closed in few seconds? ieo's ecamig popular, so they will last longer, people will think what they wat to buy.

Well it depends on the exchange behind the IEO because the last one done by binance lasted just 30 minutes and the coin was sold out, but the one of bittrex I can't tell because the exchange itself is having issues and that will really affect they coin sales. IEO is still at it hype stage just like ICO in 17/2018. It depends on the team behind it to make it successful.

Bittrex IEOs don't get pumped because they don't have whales anymore lol.
IMO project on Bittrex aren't really appealing, If they had some really amazing projects they will sell out! I'm just waiting for one to participate!

I also think it depends on what exchange is IEO, but maybe some of them are scam but we can't say that all of IEO are scams, we will see what investors choose and we will see after some time how many are scam.

Have you watched another IEO that launched on bittrex before ocean protocol? Those investors are getting lost around 40% and that's why they learn from there. They are putting their money into the IEO that runs in another exchange site. I have the same thought with you dude. I believe ocean will bring investors to the lose again

Sooner or later, people will realize that because a token or coin is sold in the exchange doesn't guarantee the price will skyrocket after that. IEO is no different from ICO in my opinion.

I think the IEOs are going into a dangerous situation. Specifically, the IEOs listed in the major exchange are never questioned. Good or bad project sold without discrimination.

I think why that happened because the previous IEO from Bittrex did not give a big profit or even suffered a loss. At the start of the bittrex IEO for the "RAID" coin the IEO was canceled due to a problem. Therefore, this IEO Ocean investor may not trust IEO bittrex anymore. Because the investor does not want to experience a loss on the IEO.

Recently, for some reason, it is often said that IEO is a scam, but in spite of this, many projects collect good money for this and I think that all of these people have already been collected for the implementation of projects, but here they obviously should bear the responsibility of the exchange.

It should be noted that IEO projects are actually the same ICO projects, only their tokens are distributed directly through the exchange. For the rest, nothing changes. The IEO team can raise funds in a few seconds. However, this does not guarantee that the price of the token will continue to grow. Everything, as before, will depend on the efforts of the team itself, which is behind this token. So far, the situation with the IEO projects is better, because the problem with fraud in these projects has been partially solved. However, most teams and projects will not be able to distribute their tokens in IEO format. As a bounty hunter, I hope that our services will still be needed for ICO and IEO.

It's a passable error, especially if someone isn't a native speaker of the English language. It's nothing big. You should have made the correction rather than just point it out.

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When, I think it's too early to yoke IEO as another patterned scam in cryptocurrency. Doing that will be amounting to hasty generalization. I believe what is happening with the Bittrex IEO is that investors are showing their displeasure with not making ROI on their last investment with the company. It's a common pattern of thought as they will equally believe the ongoing IEO won't be any different from the past. It's really not because of any scam.

Thanks for post out my mistake. Topic and title has been edited :)

However, there is a lesson for us who are wondering to invest on IEO. I had tried on last IEO on Bitrrex and I was failed to buy. Its my luck that I had not tried on current IEO. Most likely they will lose fund who have invested on current IEO on Bittrex.

I think its a silent scam.

I really can't understand the problem with IEO. IEO is ICO just not on the website of the ico holders, it is on exchanges. It comes with a guaranteer of an exchange. If it is on okex or binance (big, good exchanges) that means it is not a scam and team is not fake. Also, it comes with a guaranteed listing so you know you can sell tokens after the sale is over.

But if you choose to join an IEO on a scammy exchange for instance like Yobit that can end up with a scam. So if you trust the exchange at that point, you know, you are not sending money to scammers and you know you can sell what your purchased anytime you want.

In conclusion, it is not a scam, it is a way to decrease scams.

Obviously returns do matter and when investors got stuck in previous IEO why will they invest in new IEO, this could have easily been other way round if investors would have made some profit from previous IEO this one would also have sold in seconds.

I do not understand what you say are you pessimistic about the appearance of the IEO here? I think throwing away such thoughts but all back again in your analysis and clever in choosing projects that have been developed, of course some will fail and most will also succeed, we just wait for the future to come up with market hype, really positive side and there is a negative side, back again how you manage everything.

The reason for the failure of the last IEO Bittrex is primarily due to the fact that this exchange failed all its previous IEO and therefore there are so few who want to invest in the next IEO. And indeed, why do this if instead of earnings, investors get losses.
I also did not participate in the IEO on this exchange. I think that nothing good will come of it.

Come on bro, don't destroy this hype. maybe you see the IEO will end the same as the ICO at this time. but even so try to trust Exchange to handle it. This might change your mind a little about the IEO.
indeed now I am not too with a new project, but the IEO makes an exception. I see there is little hope there, for those who are looking for profit this might be one good way.

IEO is just an ICO version but with Listing Hype and nothing else but that, I think IEO running on Bittrex for me is much more legit than any other Hyped IEO ran on Binance and I am not talking about the project itself I am talking about that there is no manipulation is happening during IEO. In my opinion Ocean IEO is doing just fine not selling in seconds or minutes is not an indication of a failure, well at least on Bittrex IEO I know for sure that there are real people buying the tokens which I highly doubt it is the case with Binance.

Hopefully, you will be right. Isn't that OP pointing it out that IEO will just a scam but with his observations, it sounds like there is a problem might happen with IEO project on Bittrex? It is not the concern of Bittrex alone but for all of us and so with investors who will usually risk their money investing with this.
If that case that IEO still can be full of a scam, at least we give awareness to the public.

Maybe the reason the IEO hasn't been sold out is because people are just so picky nowadays on projects they want to invest in. Bittrex also requires a Know Your Customer process before you can purchase in these IEOs.

I am agree, but for KYC, i think exchanger like binance require KYC too. Investor must be picky because mostly IEO price after few days listed in market, the price drop and back to IEO price. But i dont think IEO is a silent scam because we can called scam if not listed in exchanger

I think it depend on project but people and investors will never think that IEO is a silent scam. They are only thinking their security and they are preventing sudden loss so they are not give they full trust in this project. So this is the reason why the token did not sold in a very little period amount of time like other projects.

I think big exchanges should consider the projects before putting them into the IEO. many bad projects will affect investors and the exchange itself lose their credibility

I think IEO is not a silent scam because exchange will not let its traders to be scammed But choose a good exchange that has a good record of its service ;)

exchanges didn't let their reputation destroyed due bad projects listing in their exchanges.their team will review carefully in each side.and its proven now, most of IEO could give atleast 1x profit to their investors.we should becarefull investing in IEO, maybe binance launchpad could be on our first list.

i hope you are right by saying that "there is hope there".
if the IEO is a project scam, the IEO will not be different from the ICO. indeed, if i think about it again, it is impossible for an exchange to register a project that does not fulfill the entry requirements, it will damage the image of the exchange.

but indeed we cannot just ignore this, indeed all IEO projects are good but we should indeed choose the best and more profitable projects.

In the end of the day, it is still the project that is the best that will going to last longer on the market. Even, if they are launched in a different platform such as IEO, ICO, STO,and etc. We should bare in mind that others are just relying on hypes in order to get the best out of the market these days.

I also think that failure is based on the project, not the entire IEO. And i don't know what it is all about silent scam, does it mean it is scamming the investors in unappropriate way? Or IEO is being scam in disguise? I hope you can explain further what you are trying to say.

But I heard that there were large investors who transferred to Bittrex for 2000 BTC. Maybe ocean will be soldout right away. I don't think that the IEO is a scam, because I can still see people benefiting from each IEO. It is possible that the IEO at the exchange is not a good project.

I don't think so, maybe the investors still not too familiar with IEO system, we still need sometime for the investors to understand the concept of IEO, basically the investors already tired with the numerous scammed by ICO project, I think they will be more appreciated the IEO project, but you can't expect the express result from something new

IEO hype is slow down for now and I think Bittrex not buy IEO tokens and manipulate as Gate does with their scam IEO's. And such crowd sales is not interesting for speculations. Also, Ocean project is very greedy guys, they already collect a big money through their previous ICO's and still want more. It will be very strange if OCEAN will be trading higher then IEO price.

IEO is just a hype they are using based on the belief that people trust the company bringing the project out, but it doesn’t mean that investors are still not wise now to make research before investing.

IEO is no longer a new thing now to cause euphoria, people are already getting used to it unlike when it first came out, people want to quickly rush and participate, but they have already seen from the experience of people that has participated, that IEO project is really not a big deal and not different from the usual ICO It will become worse than this when other exchanges too starts participating.

Lol, why do you say that IEO is a silent scam because an exchange haven't been able to sell out the tokens of a project yet, don't you know that the investors who participates in this token sales actually check out the project before investing their money in them, it's not just about buying the tokens but checking the project to see whether it's a good one or not and then decide to make purchase of the token, so it's no big deal if it takes 5 days or more to sell off, at least they will sell it off.

Bittrex factor. Its not the coin but the hype and hype on bittrex is not so great as seen from the success of IEOs on binance. So I'm blaming the exchange for the failure of the sales

I think that because their first IEO had a lot of problems when investors used the tool to buy within the first 2 seconds. Investors did not trust Bittrex and ocean to sell out in the first hour. Worry is of course, but we will know tomorrow, they announced the list at 15 UTC

LOL, I think those that rushed into investing were just learning from the market and thank God they have already done our research for us. I have always told people that IEO is just going to make more money for exchanges and not all investors, there is no platform they cannot practice dump.

The only solution that IEO platform brought is to engage people in projects that are not being operated by scammers, that is if they participate in the ones from reputable exchanges. It is even good as they are still no longer meeting up with their marketcap, they will end up falling back to bounty hunters for help.

you can blame everyone, but first of all you didn’t conduct a research project before you decided to invest in it

Many things are unknown to investors about what happened behind the IEO and are actually at risk but high risk high returns are one of the things that investors consider so they are brave in taking those risks

I tried all I could to participate in the previous IEO held by Bittrex but I was disappointed as I could not participate before the entire tokens were bought. But after the token was listed and fell below the ieo price I became skeptical of Bittrex IEO, I had no interest in the OCEAN IEO and I believe some investors were as well disappointed how the last one panned out.

IEOs is just a way of getting listed on an exchange and promotion. If people are getting scammed its because of lack of research.

Right now, i have got no idea, but if it is a silent scam then it wouldn't take long for investors to realize that. These days, people are too careful about their investment, so they can't fool them for too long.

All investments are certainly at risk, there is no guarantee that the IEO will get big profits, all of them are the same which is risky, but for me to take risks must be done to get big profits.

I was not participated on last IEO on bittrex so i don't able to judge their IEO scam or not but latelly i was heard bittrex IEO not sold out anymore because most of investors highly doubt about it since many of them has been lost their money from previous projects

IEO is not different from ICO, it is just that the platform on which they are using to raise money has changed. As for Bittrex, they mess up with their forst IEO and first impression last long, the first IEO ended in second and started trading below the IEO price less than a day, people lost money and  no man with his right sense will be willing to make the same mistake. People should remember that ICO funds were drying out until Binance started with the IEO which tend to gain investors confidence to invest again in these projects

I just got a headache when I read your statement mate. :)
Well, IEO right now according to others is the replacement for the ICO aside from that this is very trend now here
in the forum. Where according to my insight of view about this IEO, is that so far it is good and better compare to ICO,
no doubt about that. Because having an exchange is an advantage while the campaign project is running.

Yeah, I totally cannot say that IEO's are scam since its just another scheme to raise funds but offers great advantage over a normal ICO. And also exchanges doing IEO's are just facilitators for fund raising to a particular project and they have no direct influence on whether a project will become a scam or not. So I reckon we should first examine the merits of the project and research on it thoroughly before putting some money into it.

If you are looking for legit IEO and expect to be able to invest in yanu.io because their projects are very good and they will earn over time and they have programs to prevent and prevent the drop of their token so it's very nice to invest In today's in cryptocurrency there are many benefits available.

They have KYCs for such transactions in Binance since they are situated in China. The laws are strictly cannot be overlooked or it can mean their downfall. Some IEOs are silent scam and few others are not. Let us just observe for now since these IEOs are new.

This kind of behavior is normal because IEOs are not but ICOs with a guarantee that it will be listed on that particular exchange.
When the ICO period was at peak, most of the ICOs were raising enough funds and reaching their goals but there were also some ICOs that didn't make up to their goals.
Similarly, there might be IEOs which raised funds in seconds but there will also be IEOs which might not be able to reach their goals.

I think IEOs are not scam, but just because a project has an IEO and no ICO, it doesn't make the project any better. IEO does not automatically mean that the project is really good and that you should invest in it. I think some investors have recognized that too and don't invest in every project that an IEO carries out.  :)

It's all about researching I don't blame people who tried to participate its a new way the few is trying to get a grasp of it, its same with others it was never need to succeed at first pilot and there is more time for it to be reconstructed and to rebuild it needed a foundation there are still ICO that is scam and for IEO investors are still trying to figure out how things and when will it work out the best option they have is to experience and try it themselves.

Well, I can't really fathom if they are scam or not as they are still growing gradually. Also, I think the ability of an IEO to finish ASAP depends on the exchange; that is, their potentials, products and services, at the same time it also depends on the IEO itself, that is, what actually are they team trying to offer and is it achievable. In my opinion, I think all this factors contributes to the success of IEO.

IEOs (actually everything) are profitable in binance. Everyone should understand that IEO is not something that everyone want to see. This is just the sale of the newly created coin/token in exchange. Just, better exchanges provide a better atmosphere.

Bittrex and Ocean scammers! More than 5,000 people were deceived by 6 million dollars! Now they ignore all user messages.

IEO is not scam ,just because projects are launching through exchanges doesn't mean it can't fail due to not having enough hype ,for every projects launched on IEO hype is still needed to sell out all tokens just like ICO ,the difference between ICO and IEO is not much

I do not think that if somewhere in the IEO industry there are difficulties, then it should be equated to scam. For example, on Binance IEO were launched successfully, there are also examples of other exchanges. In any case, if errors arise somewhere, they just need to be fixed.

The ocean coin  is weak project, it was clear that it will not bring profit, and no one promised us anything. All investments are made at our own risk.

Investors like IEO, it's one of the reason the demand of crypto especially the major coins has increased.
What I believe is that investors are realizing that more scams in ICO and they need a safer platform and they found it in IEO.

I see IEO is another option for the ico project.
I can't conclude like you because I don't know how the mechanism is to ensure that the IEO is a scam program.
I think Bittrex has a team that will assess this especially for many projects that carry out the IEO. until now everything has not been running and still has to be studied

After seeing that there was no profit, there was fear. The successful progress of Binance in the sale of IEO led everyone to believe that they had found a new way of gain. But it should not be so easy.

I think people have been fooled into thinking that IEO's are some sort of panacea where all the problems with ICO's will be fixed. They will eliminate the most egregious types of scamming like the people doing the ICO turning out to be fake and running away with all the money. But they won't protect you from badly run projects or even stupid ideas. The exchanges don't screen for quality and I doubt very much they could even if they wanted too.

Either the hype dies down, or  that particular coin does not have a platform that can contribute to its popularity, investors are more wiser now, they will not bite to every IEO that comes along the way, they will check it, if it's going to be a short term or long term investment or will just die down after the hype is gone.

I think Ocean Protocol has not reached its IEO Hard cap because of the previous IEO on Bittrex - Veriblock - which is now traded at about 0.5x price. It is very important for every exchange to hold the first IEOs with a good profit for investors.

Avoid Bittrex IEO-s like a plague if your intention is to flip your investment or hold it for a short period of time. They should really limit the MCs of listing projects to 10 or max 15 mil as some other tier 1 exchanges did. And better vesting of projects wouldn't hurt either.

Is like many just use the word scams without knowing its actual meaning. Not selling it out within seconds does not mean it is a scam. What I see is that investors are very more cautious now because they don't want the repetition of what happened in 2017 and I think this is very good for the industry.

I think just a way to make more money to the exchanges. This does not solve the main problem with the projects. I do not know yet I’m bad at projects on IEO.

I never appreciate blind trust and it should always be discouraged. Not all IEOs could be great but those which are conducted by the leading digital platforms like Binance and Bittrex. Binance Launchpad has had great success so far. Bittrex cancelled IEO for a crypto startup after the start up got their deal cancelled with an e-gaming company. They cancelled it for the good of its users which is enough evidence to call Bittrex a good platform.

You're right the newbie are those that usually invest into most IEO base on the high traffic the project got but I want you to know that you're wrong when you said the IEO platform brought crypto  community project that are not operated by scammers because the last time I check the procedure it was just like the information exchange ask for coin listing(site, ticker,team info etc).

Bittrext's first IEO also failed miserably, it couldn't even be launched when people learned that a rough handkerchief and Bittrex decided it was too risky. Do your own research, and don't invest blindly on something just because it's all hyped up. scammers will follow developments. for now, the scammer may be depressed because of an alternative IEO. but they will look for ways too and the same as ico, IEO will be full of scammers later. I think that's the principle of their work. because they won't die easily.

I think it's not correct to call IEO a scam. There are projects that have not caused a stir in the market and their tokens have not been bought in seconds, but they are completely legal and have passed the audit of the exchange where IEO is launched. Bittrex just chose not the projects that could create a stir and attract investors. I don’t invest in all IEO, because I’m waiting for a really cool project to make at least x4 from it.

Well yes. Invest in all this is stupid. Need to study projects. For example, now as a hunter, I study projects in detail to write an article or make a video. The same should be done and with investing in the IEO do not throw on all projects. And choose real ones. And the best.

Some companies that conduct IEO cannot reach 100% of the sale of their tokens, everything of course depends from the exchange itself, how popular it is and of course much depends from the company itself, not all investors will want to buy tokens of a company whose ideas and plans are unrealizable.

Someone once posited that IEO lacks transparency as the total number of investors may not actually be released to the investors and hence the fund realized. IEO is just different from ICO because of some level of confidence that team won't escape with collected fund and that such project will eventually be listed on exchange. Nevertheless, some exchanges do promote shitty projects as they are only concerned about their profit from conducting the IEO and possible listing.

I believe that with the help of IEO earn primarily exchange, as it is impossible to participate normally in the sale and buy tokens. Exchanges can throw their own money, and then drain the tokens when listing and make a lot of x's. And since the bulk of the purchased tokens can belong to the exchange, they can easily set the selling price.

yes you are right, not all IEOs will succeed. this depends on the project too. if the project is not good enough, investors will definitely not be interested. so just because it doesn't end quickly, that doesn't mean the IEO is a scam.

People are beginning to understand how IEO works and the excitement is on the decrease. Just like the inception of ICO's where so many projects sold out in seconds, but now many can't reach their soft cap. That's what is simply happening. When the trend is at its peak we get faster sales, but it subsides with time.

IEO's even promoted by a well known exchange don't guarantee  the success of a particular project and even reputable exchanges could wash their hands if the project's IEO could turn out to be a scam. I've never seen an IEO that guarantees the integrity of a project and we should all be aware of this situation. :)

In the past, many people suffered losses when investing on this exchange in the IEO VBK, which is why the latest Bittrex IEO was not able to collect the maximum amount of investment.
We can assume that the IEO on this exchange is over - they will no longer be able to find investors.

I do not agree with you and think that IEO fundraising method is not a scam in general. I was always very suspicious about IEOs that took place on Bittrex and it is disappointing me. Such a big exchange completely failed almost all IEOs. They should take example from other great exchanges.

but the IEO from Binance works so well that everything depends on management.
so we still have to be very careful even though the IEO is safer than ICO.

binance is safer, because they do strict rules for every project that does an IEO in their exchange. some projects that are not able to penetrate their binance will choose other exchanges that are easier, it will make a bad potential that can occur.

You're right, however the exchange is only a third party, investors come to invest or not depending on how the investor views the project. Even though IEO is well-known at the moment, not all projects will be successful when they start it.

Binance in china, I think you are mixing it up with HUOBI, I am not even sure if HUOBI is fully in china, but I know they are Asian exchange, but for BINANCE, they moved there based already to MALTA and that is where they are operating from which I never think they were ever in china.

Whatever Binance is doing is not even for the sake of law alone, but because they have integritywhich they have applied to all their projects. If it was based on law, they could take advantage of the anonymity of blockchain to remain underground without people knowing them, but you can see that their CEO believes in himself and the power of his project, that is why he could show his face confidently to the world.

That's true, otherwise, we will just invest in IEO and makes easy money.
Most project that are in crowdsale are start ups, therefore it needs time to be develop and only when it has real use case where people begin appreciating it. At the early stage, it's just all speculation, some hype and FUD happens, so long term investors should be aware of that.

In crypto, scammers take advantage of any new development to steal people's money. IEOs can also serve as an entry point for scam, it doesn't matter the token sale is taking place on an exchange. if the team is not strong enough, the project can still die off

Launch of newly modified projects might be the reason of becoming subsided with time. Just like it happened to ICOs when the newly launch projects that is IEO started its flying on exchange. This project has covered up the drawbacks of ICOs in which the major one is the counterparty actions. The counterparty in case of IEOs is the exchange on which these projects are launched especially the Binance.

basically ICO and IEO can be used as a place for scammers. but, we know that by seeking information first, it can be avoided. however, currently the IEO is still better than ICO for several reasons. although there are some opinions that people can be cheated from the IEO.

I haven't seen any scam IEO  yet and the only way investors can lose there funds to IEO scam is investing in IEO from new exchanges this is the difference between ICO and IEO and IEO is just safer

Still early, of course, we cannot find a scam IEO, but if there are hundreds of IEOs, there will be many scams, the most important thing is to always be vigilant and selective in choosing the IEO.

We need to understand that most who buy on IEO are those who buy on ICO. It's just that it gives opportunity to the trip on those exchanges to get involved and invest. I know this IEO hype will not favour all projects. Some projects already have their own investors waiting to come in. It's dangerous for projects that rely only on the exchange for all their salew and marketing. Soon IEO shall pass. Not all projects and exchange will survive

It's a ridiculous thought. I don't understand how people are so sure of themselves. What makes IEOs think it's scam? If you can explain that with evidence, I can listen to you.

It is necessary to select good IEO projects because every day thousands of ICO projects want to be listed in large exchanges and that makes top exchanges always have very good management and only choose the best quality projects. I think if you want to invest in the IEO, you should only choose 3 exchanges Okex, Binance, Huobi because these are the top 3 exchanges with a lot of investors' trust and will bring you great profit if You may be the luckiest person. Of course there will still be risks when investing in IEO because this is the first stage and if it enters the final stage, there will certainly be a huge loss.

It's sad to think that exchanges will be a way for scam projects, exchanges should evaluate more the project before even listing it. It will affect their reputation, we should at least learn by choosing what exchange to trust.

I have not seeing any neither, this investment of a thing we are saying is a matter of availability of liquid cash, how many investors do we have in the crypto market that they will keep investing all their life and don’t have a limit, they all have a limit.

The reason why Binance IEO gets finished easily is because they already have a very strong community and for the fact that it was their first time of doing so, there will be a time when Binance too will be faced with this challenge, because the community they rely on to fill the space would have exhausted their investment lime and they have to wait for new investors before they can get more investment space filled up.

I am sure that the big exchanges are doing so. before entering into an agreement with a new project, they study it very well.

Yeah, I also think that a well-known exchange will do evaluation of the project that is going to hold the IEO. A big reputable exchange will have some strict requirements before accepted to do the event. But it is not a quarantee that the IEO will be succeed or the price will not be dumped after IEO. So I think it all back to our researches before making an investement.

Majorly IEO runs on hype , otherwise it will take a long time before any project will sell out. There were tim s when Ico would sell out in few minutes before it later started taking a lot of time. IEO is not scam and people are just being careful to participate because it’s very easy to lose funds in IEO to ICO. I just feel project that have made some substantial progress should run IEO on good exchange not just beginners.

Both initial offering (ICO and IEO) are both not scam and the real scammers are the abusers of crypto currency anonymity. However, just because IEO are run by an exchange doesn't mean the crypto scammers can't use it to scam investors and like you said IEO are majorly run through hype which crypto abuser can use it to scam their investors.

Am not among those that see IEO as a silent scam. All I see is a rebranding of ICO which is less riskier than ICO though it's not perfect but as for me it is better because of the instant liquidity that it provides which gives investors an opportunity either to liquidate it or hold for while.

I think the Bitrex case is a bit different event though the project that was held by the IEO in Bitrex was pretty good but the investors didn't believe it because the previous IEO no one could maintain demand.
and currently Ocean has dropped since trading began.

I can't say that because there is no strong evidence yet, but seeing more and more IOs that are unclear at this time makes me even more convinced that IEo itself has a lot of games and it is also possible that it will be the same as its quality ico.

I also still don't believe that the IEO is fraud. Because, nowadays there are so many IEOs that benefit investors. but it must be remembered that not all IEOs can make big profits. It all depends on the exchange if in my opinion. So if you invest in the IEO there is no problem, as long as it makes you profit.

For now, IEO projects are much better than ICO projects. In fact, these are the same ICO projects, only with a certain amount of fraud prevention and listing guarantee on a certain stock exchange. Partial resolution of these major issues facing ICO projects distinguishes IEO from ICO. Therefore, it cannot be said that IEO projects are a silent scam, although they may well be a scam.

I think it's just like ICO, some are scams some are profitable.
So, be wise on choosing IEO even this thing is so hype in crypto world right now.

exchanges should be more selective and choose good projects but not anyone. and there won't be such situations as with ocean coin.

I'm really not sure if investors are realizing that some IEO are just not worth a penny because there is still many projects reaching their IEO sale hardcap.

I do not see IEO as scams. They are in many ways better than ICO and it is just a matter of time before people view them differently. Yes there could be fraudulent IEO projects but the numbers will be reduced. Exchanges will do their due diligent because their reputation is at stakes if they launch too many scam projects.

Binance already open in many country and i think they should comply with KYC or regulation. Malta offering regulation and in china there is stricty regulation about cryptocurrency and most exchangers prefer opening office in hongkong.
I am agree that binance CEO is very active on cryptocurrency development in the future and true believer and its good for crypto market because binance is one biggest exchangers

Investors do not care even if each project on the exchange platform turns out to be a scam, they don’t invest in long-term, for them the IEO is a way of quick short-term investments.

To me, ICO and IEO both are same. Because of scam ICO, it created a bad impression and people give up investing in ICO. Which is why IEO comes. But both are same. Come with an idea and raise fund. At the end of the day, both serves same purpose.
People may be started to realize it ane that's why no one is investing.

I don't think it's a scam. when the price of the token comes down from expectations, it is because exchange did not want to support the token.
Bittrex seems to be destroying itself and wants to focus on developing Bitsdaq. I think it's a good strategy for them. Asia is a good place for them to get more benefits.

not everyone thinks like you. you are too pessimistic for long-term investment. investors determine long-term or short-term investments depending on the ability and research they have done on the project, not on the success of the IEO. because maybe the IEO can be successful but it does not guarantee the project can survive after being traded on the market.

IEOs are nothing but ICOs  with a guarantee of getting listed. While ICOs did not had any guarantee whether it will be listed on exchanges or not, IEOs provided it.
But there is no such guarantee that the IEO will be successful or not. That will always remain a mystery until the project is implemented.
So expecting every project to get sold out in minutes is foolishness. If it would be such a thing then every investor would probably invest in every IEO.
So you have to take the chances by yourself and research about the project before investing in it.

the token have with use on accounting as the value on exchange to confront with selection on token as pairs with the running chart as the drawing with the table market of the exchange.

I personally think Bittrex isn't doing well with IEO because of the very first failed IEO after being announced, which didn't hold again. Investors are now weary since the second IEO didn't do well too, the doubts continue if future IEOs on Bittrex will do well. Bittrex is a unique exchange, no doubt, "but this shoe doesn't fit them".

Agree on this, its too early for IEO to scam investors but we should always be careful on investing whether its listed on top exchange or not. IEO is a new way to invest, i’m confident more good project will do IEO and make a good project.

I dont think IEO is a scam just like ICO and other crowdsale it went through to a process. But just like other crowdsale opportunities. Sometimes the investors confidence on particular project is not strong, or maybe poorly advertise thats why it was not able to reach to specific audience or investors thats why the project token sale was not easily sold out sometimes expect the unexpected specially in cryptocurrency.

Perhaps the previous IEO brought investors little profit or even loss and therefore they do not want to invest money in the new IEO, which is organized by the Bittrex exchange.

IEO is never a scam itself its just another better way than ICO and many investors are short term investors looking for quick gains ,tell that to matic or celer network they are good projects but investors don't care,they are here for the quick 2x 3x ,IEO proves to be more safer than ICO ,no more scam projects ,what we have left are good and bad projects ,meaning that many IEO projects will die too so choose wisely

I don't think IEO was a kind of scam because like ICO, an IEO nowadays benefit investors. If encountering a little miscontact about the IEO just make a good point on researching and reviewing about if it is gonna make you profitable in the future like the dencoins tokens. So if you invest into it, as long as it makes you profit then it must be really great.

Indeed, i dont think IEOs is scam because exchangers already manages the project before held IEOs. Exchangers must be very careful when decide held IEOs, specially IEOs from big exchangers. I think IEOs more trusted than ICOs

I think IEO is still a better option for any investors but the rate in which it dump after listing might be the reason for people not that turning up to buy like before or base on the project research which might not really give a good idea for surviving

Any IEO can also performed base on the exchange performance which I think might also be a reason as binance IEO will always finish within some minute since they have started.

IEO, in my opinion, cannot be considered a scam, a project is, IEO made easy for project and investors to connect in a short period of time and investors are guaranteed of the ready market after the crowd sale, a thing that ICO lacks but still the project always makes an impact if it's going to succeed or fail.

All of these startups are in essence scammers. They are not motivated to improve the industry as a whole, but are aimed at raising more money. After that, 99% of the teams just stop working, that's the reality.

If an IEO will be a scam then there are 2 parties involve in that scam.
1. the TEAM who manage and having their token sales.
2. The exchange who manage the sales.

But for me i think that the IEO will always be better than ICO as the exchange team are the one who study the project first.
This gives the investors an additional security measures.

Yep, it is a silent since the exchange protect the coin and the project. Both of them project and the exchange could scam you after 5-10 years so the volume will be just like shitcoins

That a project failed to sell out during IEO, doesn't mean IEOs are now scam. Every exchange promoting any IEO has a role to play which has been seen in other exchange's IEOs. Nowadays, some projects go as far as launching their IEO two exchanges just to ensure they sell out.
Bittrex should retrace their steps and know where they went wrong and start making corrections.

If you are thinking investing in IEO'S is scam then you should warn you self and try to make research in good projects that are legit and trusted,like the Dencoin that now offers Ico and you can buy tokens from the Ico and this project is legit and can bring us profits.

I think with the IEO projects and they don't want to keep growing, it's a disadvantage for investors. So before joining, choose projects with great potential

Both of you are right, and we don't know which IEO project that will be a scam because they are new in the crypto market and they need to run the project.
We only know if they are scam by following their journey so we can determine which project that will potential to be a scam project.
We need to be careful if we want to invest in any project and not just the project that lists on the IEO.
The scamming project will always be there, and we don't know which project that will scam us.

This is mostly common with ICO projects, most team lacks vision and once they get the money, they tend to forget the purpose of raising the fund which makes majority of them collapse. I think with IEO, it will be a different case, because exchanges coming up with IEO projects too will not want to tarnish their image, so firstly, they will seriously ensure that the project developers and team are genuine, and at the same time, make sure that they have a very good real life working products that they will be establishing after the crowd funding, which is why I believe we hardly see any IEO project that has not been performing well.

I don't understand your idea or logic behind this. Investors can choose on which project to invest on. Do you in person invest in all projects you see? Definitely no so you don't expect the investors to put money on every project. Maybe ocean was not a good project to go into

If an IEO is on a reputable exchange then it is very unlikely to be a scam.
We need to differentiate between those that fail because they don't hit soft cap (minimum amount for the project to be viable) and those that are just outright scams. There can be a world of difference between the two.

Investors only have interests in their eyes, and they are not too concerned about whether there is a scam. If the IEO is successful. There will be a lot of benefits. Investors really like IEO.

Most of the fundraising projects struggle , but i definitely would not say its a scam if the price drops . There is only few projects around thats worth to follow from IEO and possible invest in IEO . Golden days of 2017 is over , now you can't raise funds with just Website and whitepaper . Now they need alot more , like working product and use case .

you're right, if in 2017 we can easily see a very profitable project, now we have to look more closely, where the market for new projects now requires products and real development. when they don't have a product sometimes they will be wasted even before they enter the market.

IEO offers investors safety and we can sell at that exchange if you have a good profit but not all projects get a high profit at this time because most of the current projects now it's just speculation and they'll quickly sell all the coins if they feel good . IEO are really safe and we don't need to worry too much because this is just the beginning of the IEO

Why make your summation just from bittrex IEO. It is also a far cry when you equate it with scam. Who will now scam people bittrex or the project? For a project to sell out investors have to buy it, if it is not enough it won't sell out and that doesn't make it scam.

There is a big possibility that you have pointed out the correct subject but I am not sure whether the investors already know about it.

Knowing that they will keep on investing as long as they can get an interest with their money as not all IEO's are scam. Though we cannot really taken out those scammers as they will surely find a way to get out hard earned money.

It does not matter how good the project is, the only thing that matters unfortunately is an exchange where this IEO is taking place. Bittrex has shown that it is not a great exchange in comparison with other exchanges from top 10.

IEO scam ???
I never see that before, i know some IEO is fail and not rise a good funding but for IEO fail i never see it.
We can see IEO on big exchange like Binance is always success and peice is pump after that.

The determinant of success of fundraising of project depends on the hype around it, the last project doesn't determine the success of another project, people now do due diligence before investing in a project.

Don't jump into a conclusion right away. As of now, IEO is very young and just started to be introduced to cryptocurrency. Remember that project investors are very careful nowadays. There's no proof of scam in IEO.

Maybe but always depends in the proe that we invest so of you are going to make investments make sure you invest in good projects like Dencoin tokens that offerings a ICO but it is good to hold for the future so dont miss the chance to make investments in this project.

People forgot IEO is just ICO but the funding was held inside of a exchange, the exchange can give the investors the relief of not getting scammed but that does not stop the price going down, and not all IEO can meet the expectation of people, some may probably fail, I also doubt the product development developers can go lazy because they don't have to worry about listing.

IEOs that have been properly vetted by reputable and transparent exchanges aren't as likely to be as unreliable as many ICOs were and they should generally have a better quality product to offer the market with a professional prospectus providing investors with less risks and more assurances

Investing on IEOs weren't a silent scam, because we get lot and lot of IEOs into existence with more and more things fulfilled to get launched through the respective exchanges. This way the possibility to list scam IEOs were very low, upon the same IEO can turn to be scam when exchanges do mistakes. Hope such mistakes won't happen with exchanges.

Maybe the reason IEOs don't look successful is because these projects invest less in marketing like ICOs do and time frames for these is usually short which gives no chance to investors to get in late.

I thought IEOs are a better alternative to ICOs but if this is now seen as a silent scam what is the best alternative then ???.

this is just Bittrex being a shitty scam exchange that has started their scam through IEOs sooner than others because they are desperate for money so it was not a good example in my opinion.

generally speaking IEO is the same as ICO with a higher risk of scamming people simply because it is giving all the power to exchanges that only care about making the most amount of money. and since IEOs are practically raising money out of thin air and in the millions they easily pay the exchange off to advertise their scam and in other words put a fake legit stamp on them.

i said Bittrex has started it sooner than others because others like Binance are still being clever about it and hiding their scams and soon the shitshow will begin on a larger scale as they gain more trust from newbies who invest in IEOs and can raise big money.

The different between ICOs and IEOs is team from ICO should negotiate with exchangers first before listing. Different with IEOs, token automatically listed in exchangers when IEO end. I think its more legit IEO but not all ICOs are bad because many are good and potential