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cryptodevil marked my trust in red. I do not understand why he did it? I wrote to him repeatedly, but he does not answer. Help me what to do?

That feedback is from about 2.5 years ago.  Why are you now just starting to question it?

I don't know cryptodevil very well, but my guess is that he probably won't answer your PMs and if he's anything like a lot of other DT members he'll block them if you keep sending him messages.  There's nothing anyone else can do about your feedback--not mods, not Theymos, no one besides cryptodevil himself.  You did the only thing you can do if he's not replying to your PMs, which is to create a thread about it.  Maybe he'll see it and clarify the feedback, but don't get your hopes up.

All this time I wrote him a private message. Now decided to create a theme here. I hope that someone will help.

What part of


do you not understand?

move this to reputation, do not PM him again and hope he takes pity on you

personally I wouldn't remove the tag as HYIP ponzi's are fucking cancer but its been a while and doesnt look like you have been out of order since, so who knows

He probably just made a mistake.

More likely it was you made the mistake of thinking that, as it's accepted to promote ponzis in the Russian local/HYIP forum (which you do continually), you could therefore post support in the reference English main board thread of the scam cryptomonitordotnet and get away with it, despite cryptodevil leaving large font posts there saying that he would leave red trust to anyone doing so.
But you will no doubt say you haven't deleted that post.

I do not advertise Ponzi schemes on any forum. Do not mislead people. Or provide proof of this?

http://archive.is/vTMIq#selection-3891.0-3901.97

You deleted the posts of you making dozens of deposits on the site? That's uhhh, shady to say the least? (You're lying?)

Perhaps you've grown up and aren't the same person you were 2 years ago, but then we find this exhibit;, you're also advertising http://hyipin.com in your profile.
Mind explaining how that isn't promoting a ponzi?

That site is like a collection of cancers that i wish to avoid in my lifetime.

Did I really deny that I received payments from the faucet? Where is the evidence that I advertised Ponzi scheme?
In my profile is my personal site. On it, I do not use any Ponzi schemes.

Hacked/sold account or trying to play the innocent card:

You are mistaken, this is my account and it was all the time. I do not play anything, but I want to understand.

Sure.
So what do you call these sites then?

Nice job linking a domain to hide the reflinks to these "completely legit HYIP's".
(Which all went out of business for some reason, despite your site listing them as "paying".)

No, they're definitely not ponzi schemes. No way. They're all completely legit HYIPS and faucets.  ::)

http://www.surf-wm.ru/?ref=976 Ten years ago, it was autosurfing.
https://oaowm.ru/?ref=87 Same.
https://kikohash.com/?ref=XXXXXXXX@gmail.com Maining, was introduced here on the forum. You can search for a topic.
https://bcinvest.tech/?utm_refer=upline Warning that this is scam. Located on the Scam page, you seemed to be not attentive.
https://crowdlending.live/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi?ref=upline Same.
http://forexparadise.biz/home/partner/upline Same.
https://www.springfunds.biz/?ref=upline Same.
http://ww1.forexcompanyonline.com/?ref=upline Same.

Why invent? On my site, SCAMs are designated so that users are careful and do not trust them.

Guess cryptodevil got his reasons why he left a feedback at you !
He busted a lot of scammers and spammers and it dosnt matters if that was years ago !
Also as others have asked why you care now for this ?

Was the account changed the owner ?

I already wrote that this was my account always. And I think he was just wrong.
Why ask the same questions? There is everything in thread.

Sure, after you used referral links of said services to profit off the investors you were leading to these sites. despite apparently knowing they were or were going to be a scam?

What cards are you still playing here exactly? That they weren't ponzi schemes? That you warned people they were a scam after the fact?  ::)
Or that you didn't promote them at all?

Because you clearly did...

Don't you read my posts at all? I wrote you everything in detail.
Let's give a specific example of whom I brought in a ponzi scheme or is it just slander.

CryptoMonitor was not a faucet, that thread was a deliberate ponzi pretending to cloud mine and duly shut down.
You posted several times with "proof of payment" in that thread (you have since deleted those posts. Why is that?)
Posting proof of payment in ponzi threads is seen as promoting, hence your negative trust feedback.
You don't have to agree.
End of story.

Maybe you've somehow missed his warning message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558592.msg15645881#msg15645881) (with big bright red letters) that he will tag anyone who posts in there?  ::)

No need to lie. What's this?
https://i110.fastpic.ru/big/2019/0503/11/b0a3cffbac0bf4dc144be7a08b62a511.png

Where is your evidence that this ponzi scheme?

This is not a faucet, it's a cloud mining ponzi.

Stop lying, click on the link and see. The site has a faucet.
In the above quote there is nothing about Ponzi scheme.
Do you even know what the ponzi scheme is?

Who are you trying to fool here? You think all of us are a bunch of braindead morons?

If you had explained why you promoted ponzi's in the past, and apologized for it, perhaps you could have received some leeway.

Instead, you told use that the rating was false, despite the archive link i posted above proving otherwise, and continue to spout nonsense/outright lies about certain specifics which really don't matter.

You're not helping your case here buddy.

What kind of nonsense are you writing? Who am I trying to fool and why? I did not advertise the Ponzi scheme and on this point. And no one can prove the opposite, because it was not.

That's the second time you have called me a liar. I suggest you stop.

Ponzi schemes are known for not calling themselves ponzi schemes. If they pretend to be legitimate, it helps people like you rip off new investors.

Oh yes.
Schemes like Chain.group (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2104952.0) and Finrivers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2009719.0)
People who post scam threads like these only in the Russian HYIP ghetto usually avoid red trust, but I can always make an exception.
Of course you're not.  ::)
 
He has no case.

1. Please give a quote where I called you a liar?
2. With this approach, all projects can be safely called Ponzi schemes. For some reason I thought that in the Ponz schemes there are those who did not receive a profit. And there are no people who have not received a profit.
3. Chain.group is a scam about what I wrote in the thread.
Finrivers is a real platform for startups. You can create your startup and try to add it there, if it certainly does not work according to Ponzi scheme.
You do not seem to be completely oriented in terms of HYIP and Ponzi. Let me remind you, not every HYIP is Ponzi, but every PONZY is HYIP.
4. Do you have evidence to the contrary?
5. Do not quite understand what you mean?

Do you even know whom are you talking too?

I think you should check @tmfp's post history once. You know nowhere near him what a poniz or MLM is.

Atleast check his personal text! :o

What for? I am guided by what he writes here. Everyone can be wrong, and you and me.

Pretty interesting that your "payments" came from the xapo cold wallet... ;D ;D ;D
So, should I trust somebody who was advertising a ponzi and the deleted a message or should I believe that you were just picking random transactions from blockchain.info and showing them as proof?


Maybe because cryptodevil made it to DT2?   8)

What is interesting about this? What prevents to pay the administrator from anywhere?

Op's case is exactly why we have so many unsolvable disputes on the forum. Everyone just wants to feed their ego instead of apologising and moving on. Arguing over the topics that they don't have knowledge about and retaliating when proved they're wrong.

OP : Apologising that you did promote a Ponzi a long time ago and you haven't done it since ages had more chances of getting that feedback removed.

You are wrong here and so is the reason you are still trying to defend your actions, there is nothing wrong in being ignorant but if you are not taking any effort to understand what went wrong and still trying to get through the situation with baseless debates will not make any difference in your case, trust is not moderated and you could have sorted with cryptodevil but you choose this path instead.

So explain what is a HYIP and give me one such scheme that are running for a long time, you really think that they are giving out free money from thin air ::). All HYIP are scams

The part that you choose to delete certain posts is the evidence you are looking for ?

I also think that a person can admit his mistake if he really was mistaken. There is nothing wrong with that.
2. You did not read the thread at all?
3. I recommend that you study the materiel in more detail. HIP - High Yield Investment Programs. A Ponzi scheme is a form of fraud that lures investors and pays profits to earlier investors with funds from more recent investors.
4. If the posts were deleted, then on the recommendation of the moderator. It is not forbidden by the rules to delete posts.

I said the above because you are still arguing about it as if HYIP is not a scam.

All HYIP does is to lure more users by giving away refunds  for the initial investors and ask people like you to vouch for them and help them get a much bigger user base and when they reach their target, they just disappear and still you are arguing that it is an innocent business deal since you promoted it  :-X.

It is not forbidden by the rules to delete post to cover up the past   ::), it is a good argument and so does cryptodevil as trust is also not moderated and i am sure that will be his argument.

I am out from this argument, good luck to you. Let the community decide about your arguments. 

2.You do not know materiel at all. For example, mining is HYIP, but you will not argue that mining is a scam. Or will you?
3. What you describe is the Ponzi scheme, not the HYIP. I recommend you to study what is HYIP. You do not understand the topic at all. Again, not every HYIP is ponzi, but every Ponzi is a HYIP.
4. You inattentively read my previous post and the whole topic, reread.

Actually, every HYIP is ponzi.

Sounds like HYIP:
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-yield_investment_program

This is basically the same thing with smaller differences but you are missing one very important thing, which is: both schemes are scam.

1.That is, mining is ponzi?
2. Wikipedia claims a lot of absurd things. For example, that the plots on the moon are sold. Use authoritative sources:
3 .You are not oriented at all in elementary concepts.

Are you trying to convince me that HYIP is not scam?  I am talking about hyip advertised on your site (since 2015.: http://archive.is/o0Hnu)

BTW, what is finrivers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2009719.0) you are advertising and in what are they investing money?

What is kikohash (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1810711.0)?

I asked you mining is ponzi?

Do you really think that mining is that easy? you need to have a big investment to start something substantial to earn some profit and big mining farms usually spent millions to set up one and they do not start by collecting peanuts from the users who visit their site promising huge returns  :P, if you are not shelling out huge amounts it is a waste of money, you can be proud that you are supporting the mining echo system but you wont be getting any rewards, i was reading all your arguments about HYIP and Ponzi and the fact is all HYIP are scams.

Mining is a sector where minerals are dug up or coins created; it is neither a ponzi nor not a ponzi in itself.
Nearly as absurd as your imaginary difference between HYIPs and Ponzis. The term "HYIP" was invented by the scam industry to make their "too good to be true" inventions sound legitimate. A legitimate investment scheme is a provably legitimate investment scheme, irrespective of yield.
Take your own advice.
Your "authoritative source" quote is dredged up (http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/36425/investment/success_from_high_yield_investment_programs.html) from a site called streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/
Obviously the only person who knows anything about anything is you.

Cryptodevil's feedback was and is accurate in my opinion and I would be surprised if he is convinced by your scammer hair splitting to remove it.
You'll be happy to read that I won't burden you and your pointless thread any further with my uninformed comments.

You did not answer the question. Your speculation can be left with you.
So what then may be the questions? The trust was changed for the project that mined cryptocurrencies and had a faucet on the site. Mining is HYIP, but not ponzi. Good thing you understand that.