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Title: The other side of merit system
Post by: goaldigger on May 04, 2019, 09:06:51 AM
When the Smerit system comes into cryptocurrency forum, people got some different opinions about it. Some find it okay and others get sad knowing they will not rank up just by sitting there and wait for the account to mature in time. In the past 120 days, i only got 10 merits in total. Not enough to rank up a full member but i find it better than ranking up without making any efforts.

Why people find the new Smerit unfair?
- Because they are here just to do campaigns which if they had higher ranks, they will be paying bigger.
- They are lazy enough to post and want all good things come without any effort.
- They are just here to spam so even if they post something in the forum, they will not get any merits.


Why other people find it better
- first of all, the spammed and nonsense post becomes limitted and soon to vanish in the forum.
- People are now starting to read seriously to share something knowledgeable in the forum.
- Lazy people starting to vanish and industrious ones are taking over the forum.
- bitcointalk.org becomes a better source of crypto information
- its inspiring when you post something and gets accredited by your co-users using merit system.
- those who are not that good in composing their posts are now improving big time.

You see, ten merits for 120 days is so weak for others but for me, those 10 merits reminds me that my posts are now improving and i needed more improvement to exceed that mark. It becomes my inspiration to continue learn and dig more into cryptocurrency. Good job for the merit system. It really makes things fall in the right place.


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: Findingnemo on May 04, 2019, 09:23:32 AM
You see, ten merits for 120 days is so weak for others but for me, those 10 merits reminds me that my posts are now improving and i needed more improvement to exceed that mark. It becomes my inspiration to continue learn and dig more into cryptocurrency. Good job for the merit system. It really makes things fall in the right place.
Finding which is your best sometimes take longer but once you starts to receive merits then you are o the right track.

My advise for others is stop hunting for merits,just be your own kind of poster and make efforts to get better at it.


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: TMAN on May 04, 2019, 09:28:36 AM
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Find something you are good at and dont just come into meta and try to copy what others has done, that'll be a fast way to be put on ignore by sources bud


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: creeps on May 04, 2019, 11:58:13 AM
Until today we are still talking about the merit system which runs a good one over the past year, and many succeed to rank-up in a harder way so everything is possible if you work hard on it. Everything now will count on, no matter how much you work for it if you just too focus about your merit then it will be hard for you to get one. Be inspired by those talented users who manage to rank up, continue to help the forum and don't focus too much on ranking up.


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: marlboroza on May 04, 2019, 01:58:45 PM
Good job for the merit system. It really makes things fall in the right place.
You wouldn't be here in meta if you think merit system is a good system, there must be a deeper reason for this thread.

Tell me what do you think about you not being able to rank up and get more money from signature campaigns and I will send you some merits (when/if I get some), but only if I hear honest answer.
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You see, ten merits for 120 days is so weak for others but for me, those 10 merits reminds me that my posts are now improving and i needed more improvement to exceed that mark. It becomes my inspiration to continue learn and dig more into cryptocurrency.
What's this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126666.msg50400651#msg50400651? Give merit? I don't see creating topics for things which have been repeated thousand times only because someone expect to get merits for them as improvement, more like step backward.


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: r1s2g3 on May 04, 2019, 03:35:11 PM
What's this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126666.msg50400651#msg50400651? Give merit? I don't see creating topics for things which have been repeated thousand times only because someone expect to get merits for them as improvement, more like step backward.

This is merit begging in my opinion and I guess OP is really fortunate there.

OP , you can try to improve and people will notice you. No need to do an announcement that you think you are improving.


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: lobcmt2 on May 07, 2019, 03:09:35 AM
OP are welcome, but next time, please try to use Search feature to find available topics on things you have intention to create your own topics is the first step to make constructive topics:
★ A Complete Guideline to use forum search button properly ★ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5113993.20)
You can spend days to make your topics, but it might useless if someone else published their works (topics) long time before yours, and their topics are much better quality than yours.
Edited: I knew main objectives of OP by making this topic (there are abundant topics on merits, so the one is useless, less quality than available ones), but maybe next times OP will start with intention to make something useful, so Searching is the first step to do this because OP likely knew it or did not know it. (Editing to clarify why I give OP the topic on forum search button).


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on May 07, 2019, 04:03:44 AM
Find something you are good at and dont just come into meta and try to copy what others has done
You mean like creating meaningless lists about the merit system in broken English?  Yeah, that's been done to death.  They're all merit-grabbing attempts--and I had OP on ignore already, so he's not likely to ever get any from me.

This is merit begging in my opinion and I guess OP is really fortunate there.
Yeah, that's exactly what that was, and it's what he's trying to do with this thread as well.  I'm not sure if he can improve his posts, but he might have more luck in the local boards.  English is not his thing.

please try to use Search feature to find available topics on things you have intention to create your own topics is the first step to make constructive topics:
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You're either not seeing through his act or you're just posting for your own personal gain.  There's no doubt in my mind OP knows these same threads exist, but he's just hoping someone will give him some merits for this one.  One thing he obviously hasn't realized is that when low-ranked members who can barely write coherent sentences start threads in Meta about merits, they don't usually get them.  It's a waste of time.


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on May 07, 2019, 07:14:58 AM
Find something you are good at and dont just come into meta and try to copy what others has done,

OP this is the best advice you can follow. I did the same and it worked out great for me. Also look for a board you can associate with and build yourself from there before exploring other boards. In the near future the whole merit discussion will die off though especially when campaigns start realizing it isn't about the rank of user but the quality they produce and start paying based on quality post counts & not just rank status


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: fronti on May 07, 2019, 07:44:41 AM
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If your other posts are like this one, I guess you will get more merits.
It is for sure also about where to place posts.

So keep trying


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: FFrankie on May 07, 2019, 08:43:23 AM
I really don't see how it's broken English. It reminds me of high school English class where we had to write a paragraph using sentences with those special words, FANBOYS and other srmtence combining words to make compound setences.

If they weren't begging for merit with the soft hustle I would throw them some. I enjoyed the read.


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: djhomeschool on May 07, 2019, 09:15:03 AM
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If your other posts are like this one, I guess you will get more merits.
It is for sure also about where to place posts.

So keep trying

On the other hand, look at my posts... i am ALWAYS trying to help but i will NEVER make Sr. Member just because newbies that need help don't give merit.


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: TMAN on May 07, 2019, 09:37:21 AM
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If your other posts are like this one, I guess you will get more merits.
It is for sure also about where to place posts.

So keep trying

On the other hand, look at my posts... i am ALWAYS trying to help but i will NEVER make Sr. Member just because newbies that need help don't give merit.

ok so I looked, your posts aren't shit - but they are short, and you aren't posting in places that a lot of merit is handed out - saying that, i do think you are one of the unfortunates with the merit system - next time i get topped up ill hook you up fella


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on May 07, 2019, 09:53:40 AM
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If your other posts are like this one, I guess you will get more merits.
It is for sure also about where to place posts.

So keep trying

On the other hand, look at my posts... i am ALWAYS trying to help but i will NEVER make Sr. Member just because newbies that need help don't give merit.

Have you seen this thread before > [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0) ? Newbies have no smerit to send. The only way is to be spotted by a senior or Merit source.


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: djhomeschool on May 07, 2019, 09:56:54 AM
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If your other posts are like this one, I guess you will get more merits.
It is for sure also about where to place posts.

So keep trying

On the other hand, look at my posts... i am ALWAYS trying to help but i will NEVER make Sr. Member just because newbies that need help don't give merit.

ok so I looked, your posts aren't shit - but they are short, and you aren't posting in places that a lot of merit is handed out - saying that, i do think you are one of the unfortunates with the merit system - next time i get topped up ill hook you up fella

Your the king  ;)


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: djhomeschool on May 07, 2019, 09:57:34 AM
~~~~~

If your other posts are like this one, I guess you will get more merits.
It is for sure also about where to place posts.

So keep trying

On the other hand, look at my posts... i am ALWAYS trying to help but i will NEVER make Sr. Member just because newbies that need help don't give merit.

Have you seen this thread before > [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0) ? Newbies have no smerit to send. The only way is to be spotted by a senior or Merit source.


Did it once but i'm not going to post there every time i try to help out a newbie, i would be posting there a few tomes a day  ;D


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: LoyceV on May 07, 2019, 11:18:34 AM
On the other hand, look at my posts... i am ALWAYS trying to help but i will NEVER make Sr. Member just because newbies that need help don't give merit.
ok so I looked, your posts aren't shit - but they are short, and you aren't posting in places that a lot of merit is handed out - saying that, i do think you are one of the unfortunates with the merit system - next time i get topped up ill hook you up fella
Thanks for pointing this out. Djhomeschool indeed isn't a spammer, and thus shouldn't be restricted by the Merit system. I took the lazy path of meriting his posts have have been merited before.

Have you seen this thread before > [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0) ? Newbies have no smerit to send. The only way is to be spotted by a senior or Merit source.
Did it once but i'm not going to post there every time i try to help out a newbie, i would be posting there a few tomes a day  ;D
I don't see your post there (did I delete it?). Feel free to post good posts there. That's what the thread is for.

You can also start meriting good posts on your own, you have a few sMerits by now, pay it forward to posts that deserve it. Make those Newbies have some sMerit to give too :)


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: finzyoj on May 07, 2019, 12:43:52 PM
Why people find the new Smerit unfair?
- Because they are here just to do campaigns which if they had higher ranks, they will be paying bigger.
- They are lazy enough to post and want all good things come without any effort.
- They are just here to spam so even if they post something in the forum, they will not get any merits.
Bro those are invalid things that we can rebut to Merit System for concluding that it was unfair. Those are the facts that Merit System exposed to us from the very first day of its implementation. In my point of view, the only negative effect I could see from this system is that huge amount of members here are hindered to rank up but well it's no longer a big deal as much as we can see that our forum was clean and peaceful once again :).

Why other people find it better
- first of all, the spammed and nonsense post becomes limitted and soon to vanish in the forum.
- People are now starting to read seriously to share something knowledgeable in the forum [....]
Aside from that, I think its biggest contribution is that it prevents shitposters, spammers, scammers and trollers continue their bad deeds ::).
You see, ten merits for 120 days is so weak for others but for me, those 10 merits reminds me that my posts are now improving
Honestly, I feel you. I'm getting more inspired not inly because I received merit at last but also the pleasure that my thread help my fellow countrymen somehow :).


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on May 07, 2019, 01:32:10 PM
On the other hand, look at my posts... i am ALWAYS trying to help but i will NEVER make Sr. Member just because newbies that need help don't give merit.

I hope you do understand that quality contributions (posts) doesn't always have to do with helping another forum members with their problems like to provide assistance or solution to their questions. You can still contribute positively in so many ways. You just have to experiment until you find that which suits you. Some go with statistics analysis, guides, overview, reviews etc, the best though is just don't spam irrespective of what you're writing.

Your post history isn't that bad, just keep it up and improve. You can compile all the assistance you have given to newbie and post them here (Merit giveaway for forum contributions! Started by OgNasty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124596)) since you feel they aren't been appreciated. You'll receive some merit if they're that good and also stay updated with this; List of Active Merit Giveaways threads. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096125.0) because irrespective of how contributive your post are, you still need them to be visible for appreciation (meriting) for those that don't get merited often.


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: lobcmt2 on May 08, 2019, 02:59:53 AM
On the other hand, look at my posts... i am ALWAYS trying to help but i will NEVER make Sr. Member just because newbies that need help don't give merit.
I checked your post history and gave you one merit (because I don't have too much, so I gave you only one, and saved rest of my merits for others). You are actually helpful member, so please keep up your good works.
Moreover, someone tend to make lots of reports on their good works (that are abundant and annoying, in my opinion). You can create a report on your good posts today, then if next week you have other good works, you can return to your today report and edit it with updated links to your newest good works. That's fine.
Have you seen this thread before > [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0) ? Newbies have no smerit to send. The only way is to be spotted by a senior or Merit source.
By the way, it is interesting to see you have not worn avatar despite of your rank.  :P


Title: Re: The other side of merit system
Post by: jademaxsuy on May 08, 2019, 05:25:39 AM
Good for you OP. You are just a proof that the forum had made more improvements especially in posting habits. There are only rare users here OP that has made better after the implementation of merits.

And in the likes of me to which I am not earning merits will just keep on posting participating actively in a discussions. This is the only way also that I could improve myself in posting even if I have some hard time writing in English Language. I can visit the local board though but it seems I am.more having fun in other sections like gambling and SMT.