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buying items/listing auctions/ bidding on auctions/ hosting raffles etc.

I realized we do not have one of these threads, and there a million unwritten rules when it comes to being here so here are some tips if you are new. Any thoughts/opinions on what I should add or edit

These are not all of them, and by no means is this a complete list. But I would like to think its close

When posting an item you should
Mention the location of shipping
If you are posting this on behalf of someone, or a collaboration
Post photos of the items with your username and the current time/date written on a piece of paper
"always offer escrow and dont be offended if someone asks to use escrow, it what makes our little playground work so well.  Dont always need to use it but it should be openly accepted" Wheelz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139407.msg50900085#msg50900085)
Remember:


When hosting an auction you should:
Not change your auction terms after it has started.
Not edit your initial opening post until someone quotes it.
Add a clause that allows you to require a deposit from newbi bidders.
     ~This can help prevent shill bidding, and from random newbis ruining your auction with bids they do not intend to honor
Not have any crazy clauses that would discourage people from bidding.
     ~I.E. "I reserve the right to end this auction at anytime and not sell this"
There's no point in having a secret reserve, if you have a reserve just make that your starting bid
Have clear terms




When bidding on an auction you should:
Post your bid in the format as described by the auctioneer
Pay when you win
Note that "it's rude to outbid someone in a different auction who is bidding on one of your auctions" told my DaveF, noted here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134770.msg50724539#msg50724539)
Private message the auctioneer IF you are a brand new account/little to no trading history to make sure you are able to bid. The auctioneer than can post how your bids are valid and you are not shilling  


When buying an item via PM you should:
Not ask a million stupid questions
Don't be penny pinching when it comes to shipping/escrow cost.
Don't beg


When hosting a raffle you should:
Have an escrow if its a high valued item.
If it doesn't fill up in a week, you can adjust the ticket price, add items to the raffle, cancel it and give out refunds.
If it doesn't look like the raffle will fill up, than do not accept payment till the spots are filled, or mostly filled.


Use one of these cool templates listed here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4709061.0)



"Please add that TMAN excludes kill you from all of my sales moving forwards for being a prized dickhead." TMAN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139407.msg50988618#msg50988618)

Although I did somewhat in jest post the "it's rude to outbid someone in a different auction who is bidding on one of your auctions" it does ring somewhat true.
I know I have tagged out to 2 or 3 people in PMs (possibly more) asking for a nod of OK before bidding / outbidding them if I felt a conflict could ever be seen.

Also:
Location of item(s) should be mentioned.
Are you auctioning this for you or for someone else.

-Dave

So ky jelly you are finally realising all the shit we told you over the years is true?  Fuck me I remember trying to deal with you and it wasn’t pleasent although I am happy some of the info finally got through

I had no idea of that one, and I have been here for a little bit so I felt the need to post this thread. I'll update it, those are good ones

You could have just said; "Don't act like I have for years" and saved a bunch of Internet.

You could have said nothing at all if you had nothing nice to say.

There are new people here everyday who do not know the Dos and Do not s

Updated the op

When posting in offering threads you should:
Avoid to troll and sig-spam like user killyou72 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=408367) by posting garbage and repeatedly harassing the thread opener by making offers when the thread opener does not want to deal with you, because he does not deem you trustworthy.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180381.msg45581187#msg45581187
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180381.msg50859640#msg50859640

yes please update OP with this

-always offer escrow and dont be offended if someone asks to use escrow, it what makes our little playground work so well.  Dont always need to use it but it should be openly accepted.

That's a much better way to phrase the escrow. I updated the OP

You should also avoid posting garbage items for months and years on end, continuously bumping threads for items that are not only off topic but also something no one wants that simply just clog up a board.

Agreed that is a good point.  As long as both buyer/seller comfy then all good. 

Everyone just use MJ and we call it a night.

MinerJones is great, but there’s other great Escrows- Krogothmanhatten, Yogg, Hhampuz, OG, and prob others I’m forgetting.

Most of the unspoken rules are unspoken because they are logical and assumed. When a new user makes a mistake, said mistake is pointed out and the noob learns and moves on.
Not sure if such a thread is needed, but even if it was, I sincerely question OP’s suitability for compiling such a list.

He is the most suitable as he has had every fucking thing told to him 25 times, he is just so mental it took 5 years to sink in.

I have to say, I was relative new in collectibles and dealing on terms that were mainly written by the OP's, though I never had any problem and just think that many things are just obvious for when you trade or buy something, sometimes people just have act as a grown up and don't have every single thing written down in text.

The only main thing that one has to know is, when you buy something look to the reputation of the member you're dealing with and when you doubt him then use escrow and nobody can get hurt....

But for myself I not a child and deal a lot with people IRL to, unspoken rules are just known and to be respected as they are just logical and benefit all the dealing party's ....

I never saw Raffle in my life and stuff so I just viewed a few threads and OK now we understand how it works, I have PM'ed a lot with some collectible members, always have been helped out very well on all my needs so, for me its very good how this whole collectible section is going as it is.

Again all those I have handled with THX for the services I have enjoyed t'ill now, and I hope to deal with many more in the section.

Also sometimes to do a bid with some colour like .025 BTC... I hope nothing wrong with that, we have to keep our self amused or am I wrong ?

Of course !  :D  Keeps the good mood going.

Most people also add a rule what will happen with forum downtime. Could also added to the OP.

I love the big BTC so long as it's not obnoxious big.  If people get bent over font size for a BTC they need to lighten up a bit.  :D

This guy followed your unofficial rules and you chose to attack him instead of speak with him or refer him to this thread. What does a newbie member/bidder need to do to stop this? How can you create a thread of a compilation of unofficial rules like this and then shit all over someone that followed them one day later?

Let's bump this up so newbis can read it when they hopefully come here to bid on the news paper

Anyone bidding $20K on anything knows what the fuck they are doing. Not everyone comes in here with your level of retarded fella

I saw a user post this in another thread:

I don't see anything to address this in the list of unofficial official rules in the OP. Does OP ever get updated or did the author just post it for merit/sig spam? I can see how this user quoted above might be confused if they read the list in OP and do not see anything included about this type of rule.


Looks like the confused user is also posting in Meta:

If this was such a wide spread rule I wonder why he never included it in his OP. It seems the confused user and the author of the unofficial official rules list are the same person.. weird. Is he purposely not updating the list of unofficial rules and keeping it vague so he can get more posts for his signature campaign? Merit? Why is he posting in Meta and not this very thread that he started for this specific purpose. My mind is blown, some kind of special.

Jeez you have such a big problem with me just gotta follow me around right


I posted it in meta, because questions about the fourm rules belong in meta.

I am not a saint, I cannot remember every little rule there is on here, especially ones that don't come up so often.








WOW I WAS RIGHT. and yet I will get noooo apology from anyone

Goodjob lil guy, but what we are seeing now is Moderators stepping into the Collectibles board and apparently enforcing these rules that aren't even that relevant. The community wasn't up in arms about this, one loud member brought it up (you) and rather than speak to eachother like a community and figure out if coblee were willing to accept BTC aswell as LTC (he would) we had to have a moderator step in and give a warning?

Wait until this rule isn't followed in the future and an auction/raffle/sale with bids on it is removed due to moderation.

We basically self-governed and spoke to eachother when things seemed off about somebody's Auction/Raffle/Sales terms and it worked. The SJW nation rises.

Here is another rule to add to your list:

Please add that TMAN excludes kill you from all of my sales moving forwards for being a prized dickhead.

We had such a great PM back and forth after you posted this,


Ill throw it in the OP.


Here is another rule to add to your list:


Ill throw that one in the OP too. Thank you for the source.


And I was nothing but polite in the auction thread, it was you, tman, and LC that jumped down my throat telling me that I was wrong, when infact I was right.

 

The type of person that is going to overlook and unspoken, assumed - "common sense" rule is almost certainly not that type of person that is grazing the forums for their daily dose of etiquette. I'm just not sure how many people that would make these mistakes are going to read this thread before actually making the mistake.

This list might be more fun if it was self-deprecating and quoted/linked all of the times you've found yourself making these mistakes. :D

Also, if you know it's going to be more then a day or 2 you should mention how long between someone wins & pays and you are going to ship.
Just had a issue where they only ship on Monday and I won something on Tuesday and it was a week before they dropped it in the mail.

-Dave

Lots of new people around I figure it won't hurt to bump this up