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Title: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: tk808 on May 08, 2019, 12:05:34 AM
rip 7k btc.

Source: https://binance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028031711
TX: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e8b406091959700dbffcff30a60b190133721e5c39e89bb5fe23c5a554ab05ea




And let's not forget some Words of Wisdom from CZ


"Store coins yourself. You fight hackers yourself, and guard from losing wallet yourself. Computer breaks, USBs gets lost.

Store on an exchange. Only use the most reputable, proven secure, exchanges.

Or move to DEX, disrupt ourselves. https://t.co/Ci4ux9I3VD
"

— CZ. Jan 15, 2019


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: TryNinja on May 08, 2019, 12:07:56 AM
From the same link you posted above:

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Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: minersday on May 08, 2019, 12:19:04 AM
From the same link you posted above:

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Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.

In as much that their security has been breached, people are not concerned  about them using SAFU fund to cover the funds stolen. People will be withdrawing all their coins from their platform to keep their funds safe from any future hacks. Its quite surprising to see Binance been hacked with all their security measures and protocols.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: xvids on May 08, 2019, 12:23:16 AM
From the same link you posted above:

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Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.
At least the user funds are safe and wouldn't be affected.

And I agree we should be the one to keep our crypto safe and secure .
We should be the one who is holding and guarding our money.
That is why I never leave most of money on exchanges and keep it on my hardware wallet.


In as much that their security has been breached, people are not concerned  about them using SAFU fund to cover the funds stolen. People will be withdrawing all their coins from their platform to keep their funds safe from any future hacks. Its quite surprising to see Binance been hacked with all their security measures and protocols.
It is true it is about the trust on their site but let's be thankful that it wouldn't affect the users money.
And I am sure that they would do something to prevent this from happening again.
Surely they would upgrade their security system after this incident.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Artemis3 on May 08, 2019, 12:33:12 AM
From the same link you posted above:

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Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.

In as much that their security has been breached, people are not concerned  about them using SAFU fund to cover the funds stolen. People will be withdrawing all their coins from their platform to keep their funds safe from any future hacks. Its quite surprising to see Binance been hacked with all their security measures and protocols.
Too late, they suspended withdrawals...

Binance Security Breach Update
https://binance.zendesk.com/system/photos/3602/2990/1072/binance-RGB.png Binance
May 07, 2019 23:34

We have discovered a large scale security breach today, May 7, 2019 at 17:15:24. Hackers were able to obtain a large number of user API keys, 2FA codes, and potentially other info. The hackers used a variety of techniques, including phishing, viruses and other attacks. We are still concluding all possible methods used. There may also be additional affected accounts that have not been identified yet.

The hackers were able to withdraw 7000 BTC in this one transaction: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e8b406091959700dbffcff30a60b190133721e5c39e89bb5fe23c5a554ab05ea

The above transaction is the only affected transaction. It impacted our BTC hot wallet only (which contained about 2% of our total BTC holdings). All of our other wallets are secure and  unharmed.

The hackers had the patience to wait, and execute well-orchestrated actions through multiple seemingly independent accounts at the most opportune time. The transaction is structured in a way that passed our existing security checks. It was unfortunate that we were not able to block this withdrawal before it was executed. Once executed, the withdrawal triggered various alarms in our system. We stopped all withdrawals immediately after that.

Binance will use the #SAFU fund (https://www.binance.vision/glossary/secure-asset-fund-for-users) to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.

We must conduct a thorough security review. The security review will include all parts of our systems and data, which is large. We estimate this will take about ONE WEEK. We will post updates frequently as we progress.

Most importantly, deposits and withdrawals will need to REMAIN SUSPENDED during this period of time. We beg for your understanding in this difficult situation.

We will continue to enable trading, so that you may adjust your positions if you wish. Please also understand that the hackers may still control certain user accounts and may use those to influence prices in the meantime. We will monitor the situation closely. But we believe with withdrawals disabled, there isn’t much incentive for hackers to influence markets.

In this difficult time, we strive to maintain transparency and would be appreciative of your support.

PS, I (CZ) will continue the previously scheduled Twitter AMA (https://twitter.com/binance/status/1125391763248517121) in a couple of hours.

- CZ

Secure Asset Fund for Users (SAFU)

SAFU, the Secure Asset Fund for Users is an emergency insurance fund. On the 3rd of July, 2018, Binance announced the Secure Asset Fund for Users.

“To protect the future interests of all users, Binance will create a Secure Asset Fund for Users (SAFU). Starting from 2018/07/14, we will allocate 10% of all trading fees received into SAFU to offer protection to our users and their funds in extreme cases. This fund will be stored in a separate cold wallet."

So funds are frozen (they say you can still trade, but api calls appear down). Lets hope nothing worse comes out of this, and they actually can redeem all user funds as they imply...


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: AndreyVen on May 08, 2019, 12:56:34 AM
They have a ton of BNB as well that can be sold off to cover any losses.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Artemis3 on May 08, 2019, 12:57:29 AM
They have a ton of BNB as well that can be sold off to cover any losses.

Wouldn't that lower its price? ie. a dump?


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: alexey14 on May 08, 2019, 12:58:26 AM
BNB Dumped hard.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: AndreyVen on May 08, 2019, 01:04:46 AM
They have a ton of BNB as well that can be sold off to cover any losses.

Wouldn't that lower its price? ie. a dump?

40mil isn't terribly much for a coin that size.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: jakelyson on May 08, 2019, 01:07:03 AM
In as much that their security has been breached, people are not concerned  about them using SAFU fund to cover the funds stolen. People will be withdrawing all their coins from their platform to keep their funds safe from any future hacks.
I hope binance can restore users confidence back or they will run away from the exchange. There may be a dump for a short while. Just awful how bitcoin is starting to pump up and this happens.

Its quite surprising to see Binance been hacked with all their security measures and protocols.

This just proves that nothing is safe as long as it is online. Hackers do not care how tight your security is, they always find a way to break it, especially if they see a very sweet incentive after.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: alexey14 on May 08, 2019, 01:10:48 AM
In as much that their security has been breached, people are not concerned  about them using SAFU fund to cover the funds stolen. People will be withdrawing all their coins from their platform to keep their funds safe from any future hacks.
I hope binance can restore users confidence back or they will run away from the exchange. There may be a dump for a short while. Just awful how bitcoin is starting to pump up and this happens.

Its quite surprising to see Binance been hacked with all their security measures and protocols.

This just proves that nothing is safe as long as it is online. Hackers do not care how tight your security is, they always find a way to break it, especially if they see a very sweet incentive after.
Maybe Binance hack was an exit scam.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Kemarit on May 08, 2019, 01:12:16 AM
From the same link you posted above:

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Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.

In as much that their security has been breached, people are not concerned  about them using SAFU fund to cover the funds stolen. People will be withdrawing all their coins from their platform to keep their funds safe from any future hacks. Its quite surprising to see Binance been hacked with all their security measures and protocols.

Because hackers are smart and really took time and opportunity and might have studied their security as well as not to trigger an early alarm. And by the time Binance suspect that something is wrong, it was too late. As far as I know SAFU comes from trading fee so I guess it will cover how much they lost plus they have the BNB tokens as well. It's good that they stay transparent with the issues at hand.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: bL4nkcode on May 08, 2019, 01:14:25 AM
Maybe Binance hack was an exit scam.
I would agree if the lost/hacked funds were above 50% of their total funds including hot and cold wallets, but it's merely 2% of their btc holding, regardless its bnb tokens and other coins as per mentioned on the article (https://binance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028031711).


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: miningguru on May 08, 2019, 01:31:50 AM
Maybe Binance hack was an exit scam.
I would agree if the lost/hacked funds were above 50% of their total funds including hot and cold wallets, but it's merely 2% of their btc holding, regardless its bnb tokens and other coins as per mentioned on the article (https://binance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028031711).

Oh! They lost the money in terms of other coins not the bitcoin, but already they promised they are going to give those fund to the people who lost. That's why i like mostly Binance exchange they will care more about their customers.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Aero Blue on May 08, 2019, 01:38:58 AM
Holy fuck $40 million dollars that is actually insane... At least they have the money to cover it apparently? I have like 10 cents BTC in there, but I was going to try and put more in lol good thing I waited.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: QueenW on May 08, 2019, 01:45:33 AM
now it is clear why the conclusions were closed. Very sad news. I considered this exchange one of the best and most reliable. I am convinced once again that it is better not to store anything on the exchanges.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Aero Blue on May 08, 2019, 01:49:07 AM
now it is clear why the conclusions were closed. Very sad news. I considered this exchange one of the best and most reliable. I am convinced once again that it is better not to store anything on the exchanges.

Yea that's the problem with security in general, it can be really good until that small line of code fucks everything up and a lot of times things like that really can't be prevented. It's probably a pretty good bet to say that everything is going to be hacked eventually, its just odds. As things get more and more complex, the tendency to make errors continues to rise, leaving unknown holes in almost everything. The hacking techniques that will be used in he future are things we couldn't even imagine that were possible.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: leowonderful on May 08, 2019, 01:55:32 AM
Holy fuck $40 million dollars that is actually insane... At least they have the money to cover it apparently? I have like 10 cents BTC in there, but I was going to try and put more in lol good thing I waited.
Yup, seems the fees from their platform collected are being used to cover the stolen funds. Personally wondering how this entire hacking happened considering 2FA codes and API keys were retrieved, hope that information comes out soon as Binance starts investigating into this. Pretty nice they decided to be so transparent about this as well, but it's still a hacking and the market did respond negatively to this, and user funds are safe as already mentioned so things don't seem to be as bad as they potentially could've been.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Twinkledoe on May 08, 2019, 02:00:20 AM
In as much that their security has been breached, people are not concerned  about them using SAFU fund to cover the funds stolen. People will be withdrawing all their coins from their platform to keep their funds safe from any future hacks.
I hope binance can restore users confidence back or they will run away from the exchange. There may be a dump for a short while. Just awful how bitcoin is starting to pump up and this happens.

Its quite surprising to see Binance been hacked with all their security measures and protocols.

This just proves that nothing is safe as long as it is online (http://just proves that nothing is safe as long as it is online). Hackers do not care how tight your security is, they always find a way to break it, especially if they see a very sweet incentive after.

With more and more sophisticated softwares being created, there will always be hacking that will happen. Hackers will try and try again. For all we know, that's all they do all day long. Find a way to penetrate those big crypto exchanges. I just hope no inside job is in play here.
BNB is a trusted exchange with big volume, so they can recover that fast, no doubt. But the credibility, I don't know if such incident will greatly affect on this aspect.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: duyduc256 on May 08, 2019, 03:41:15 AM
now it is clear why the conclusions were closed. Very sad news. I considered this exchange one of the best and most reliable. I am convinced once again that it is better not to store anything on the exchanges.
Don't worry too much because CZ has insurance policy for all investors and you can rest assured when withdrawing money at this exchange. I think after this FUD news, Binance became even more popular because many projects will spend their money to support this exchange. This is what impressed me most because CZ is gaining the trust of many people and surely Binance will continue to be ranked No. 1 this year.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: serjent05 on May 08, 2019, 04:32:26 AM
Maybe Binance hack was an exit scam.

It is impossible.  They are on their peak atm.  If they exit they would have lost billions of possible income from their business.  Beside they just started their "DEX" exchange so exiting is not in their line of thought for now.  :P


Don't worry too much because CZ has insurance policy for all investors and you can rest assured when withdrawing money at this exchange.

This is one good move by CZ, having a back up plan such as insurance fund if ever the worst happen such as this event.


I think after this FUD news, Binance became even more popular because many projects will spend their money to support this exchange. This is what impressed me most because CZ is gaining the trust of many people and surely Binance will continue to be ranked No. 1 this year.

It is not a FUD, it is a hack.  We cannot remove the possibility of self orchestrated hack to showcase their SAFU.  Thus, increasing people's trust and believe that their fund is secured through SAFU.  Which we can call a marketing strategy plus free advertisement about their SAFU.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: feryjhie on May 08, 2019, 04:54:59 AM
Maybe Binance hack was an exit scam.
I would agree if the lost/hacked funds were above 50% of their total funds including hot and cold wallets, but it's merely 2% of their btc holding, regardless its bnb tokens and other coins as per mentioned on the article (https://binance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028031711).

Oh! They lost the money in terms of other coins not the bitcoin, but already they promised they are going to give those fund to the people who lost. That's why i like mostly Binance exchange they will care more about their customers.

as i just read the blog post and it's written that the funds lost just a bitcoin there is no other coins that lost from binance


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: iv4n on May 08, 2019, 04:57:56 AM
Interesting tweet from Justin Sun:
To support @binance , I will personally deposit 7000 BTC worth USDT (40 million USDT) into @binance to buy $BNB, $BTC , $TRX & $BTT if @cz_binance agrees. No need to #FUD! Funds are #SAFU!
https://twitter.com/justinsuntron/status/1125932499761225728 (https://twitter.com/justinsuntron/status/1125932499761225728)

This is interesting moment in crypto, social networks are on fire, all in all CZ has a pretty good public appearance. He have a lot of support from other big players, exchanges, etc.. Interesting moment, that`s all, there`s no need for any panic, they have much more bitcoins in their wallets, and this is the amount they will earn in next couple weeks, months. It`s nice how CZ is handling with this situation, he is posting updates every couple hours.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: bonker on May 08, 2019, 05:01:20 AM
The hacked amount is merely nothing when compared to their total trading volume or funds in their wallets but this will affect their reputation slightly.They need to increase their security as much as they can or else they will be in the down fall sooner.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: wumBowo on May 08, 2019, 05:15:32 AM
have my funds there, all still locked till unexpected time.
Sad thing is i wanna withdraw some to cover my daily expenses :'(.
Hopes it recover ASAP 


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: nc50lc on May 08, 2019, 05:23:06 AM
https://i.imgur.com/L0eelT6.jpg
Looks like last year's "Funds are SAFU" meme will be revived because of this.
User's funds aren't affected, stop the FUD specially if you didn't have an account in Binance  :P


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: bonker on May 08, 2019, 05:28:00 AM
have my funds there, all still locked till unexpected time.
Sad thing is i wanna withdraw some to cover my daily expenses :'(.
Hopes it recover ASAP 
There will be an announcement soon from the binance side because they are the most traded exchange so even if they are locked for a day they will face huge losses.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: legendster on May 08, 2019, 05:30:49 AM
It is not a FUD, it is a hack.  We cannot remove the possibility of self orchestrated hack to showcase their SAFU.  Thus, increasing people's trust and believe that their fund is secured through SAFU.  Which we can call a marketing strategy plus free advertisement about their SAFU.

Interesting, this also means that they'd have to clear all traces of the 7k btc's movement in or out of their system. Which is very hard to do. But then again with billions at disposal, hard becomes easy.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: DarkIT on May 08, 2019, 05:39:21 AM
have my funds there, all still locked till unexpected time.
Sad thing is i wanna withdraw some to cover my daily expenses :'(.
Hopes it recover ASAP 
There will be an announcement soon from the binance side because they are the most traded exchange so even if they are locked for a day they will face huge losses.
I hope this can be overcome. well, binance is one of the best exchangers. I think they can overcome this. It is only natural that at the moment they are locking the activity inside, to repair leaks. but, it was very good when they said that there would be no funds from members who were reduced.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Jating on May 08, 2019, 05:51:19 AM
https://i.imgur.com/L0eelT6.jpg
Looks like last year's "Funds are SAFU" meme will be revived because of this.
User's funds aren't affected, stop the FUD specially if you didn't have an account in Binance  :P

Right, Binance claim that everything is covered thru their SAFU so I don't know why people are in a panic or just plain stupid and claiming that this is FUD.

Deposits and withdrawals are halted, which obviously is the best thing to do before they re-assessed everything and look at what went wrong.

And for those who are holders or has account on Binance then just wait till everything settles down and I'm sure Binance will soon open up again because that is their business.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: adaseb on May 08, 2019, 06:33:37 AM
I think the most panic was caused when he mentioned that he will "rollback" the blockchain. Basically a friend told me this and I assumed he must of heard incorrectly, but he said actually that the owner of Binanace will rollback the blockchain to get the funds back, I started laughing. After some reading I realized that it was actually true.

No idea why CZ would say that. Since its probably not possible to rollback the blockchain or even potentially dangerous because it would make Bitcoin more centralized and might destroy it.

I remember when BItfinex was hacked a few years ago, much more coins were stolen and they never suggested to rollback anything, because its a crazy idea to even think that.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: wumBowo on May 08, 2019, 06:43:40 AM
I hope this can be overcome. well, binance is one of the best exchangers. I think they can overcome this. It is only natural that at the moment they are locking the activity inside, to repair leaks. but, it was very good when they said that there would be no funds from members who were reduced.
yeah i trust them, already using binance over a year and it's the best exchange i have ever used.
Based on their announcement (https://binance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028031711) it should take up to ONE WEEK.
Still pretty long time to go


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: BlackPanda on May 08, 2019, 08:47:48 AM
This kind of situation is terrible because as we know when there is a hack action related to security, it will have a significant impact on the price movements of Bitcoin in the market.

I hope that the public does not act in panic sell because this will only worsen the situation, let us maintain the stability of the joint price because with this, prices can be controlled.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: kumala_abi on May 08, 2019, 09:17:29 AM
I hope this can be overcome. well, binance is one of the best exchangers. I think they can overcome this. It is only natural that at the moment they are locking the activity inside, to repair leaks. but, it was very good when they said that there would be no funds from members who were reduced.
yeah i trust them, already using binance over a year and it's the best exchange i have ever used.
Based on their announcement (https://binance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028031711) it should take up to ONE WEEK.
Still pretty long time to go
learned from several exchanges hacking, binance problem didn't make me worry at all.i am believe binance and team could solve this problem without harming their customer.moreover CEO Tron will deposit equal amount if CZ allowed him.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: FedoraTheExplora on May 08, 2019, 09:18:56 AM
Interesting tweet from Justin Sun:
To support @binance , I will personally deposit 7000 BTC worth USDT (40 million USDT) into @binance to buy $BNB, $BTC , $TRX & $BTT if @cz_binance agrees. No need to #FUD! Funds are #SAFU!
https://twitter.com/justinsuntron/status/1125932499761225728 (https://twitter.com/justinsuntron/status/1125932499761225728)

This is interesting moment in crypto, social networks are on fire, all in all CZ has a pretty good public appearance. He have a lot of support from other big players, exchanges, etc.. Interesting moment, that`s all, there`s no need for any panic, they have much more bitcoins in their wallets, and this is the amount they will earn in next couple weeks, months. It`s nice how CZ is handling with this situation, he is posting updates every couple hours.

Expressing the deepest respect and support to Binance management, as it is going to be recompensed. Being in crypto makes everyone think about safety and trust daily.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: wumBowo on May 08, 2019, 09:35:31 AM
This kind of situation is terrible because as we know when there is a hack action related to security, it will have a significant impact on the price movements of Bitcoin in the market.

I hope that the public does not act in panic sell because this will only worsen the situation, let us maintain the stability of the joint price because with this, prices can be controlled.
by looking on current price movement, looks like its not affecting the price significantly.
CEO of Binance act properly so the panic attack is still on under control and not causing a big chaos.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: The Cryptovator on May 08, 2019, 09:36:40 AM
 Besides of bitcoin uptrend, hacker become active now. It's not really small amount for Binance. Almost 2% of total bitcoin has been hacked. Anyway this was unexpected incidents and feeling sorry for that. Although it's not very hard task to recover fund for Binance but there is question about security system. Is Binance security system was weak? However, glad to hear that Binance will not touched users amoumt regarding this hack. So users fund is safe almost. It would be better if we change ours account details. Who know which account controlled by hackers?


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: mk4 on May 08, 2019, 10:36:08 AM
The people who love to leave funds on exchanges unnecessarily for some reason are very lucky that Binance is going to cover the losses.

I think the most panic was caused when he mentioned that he will "rollback" the blockchain. Basically a friend told me this and I assumed he must of heard incorrectly, but he said actually that the owner of Binanace will rollback the blockchain to get the funds back, I started laughing. After some reading I realized that it was actually true.

Rollback what blockchain? BTC was stolen right? Not BNB. Or do you actually mean rolling back bitcoin? What the hell?



EDIT: Jeebus. CZ actually thought of trying to convince miners to do a re-org.

https://i.imgur.com/7bcuzrS.png

Tweet link: https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1125996194734399488


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: naomi-the-cat on May 08, 2019, 10:54:15 AM
Looks like hacking a crypto exchange has become so easy nowadays that no security system can guarantee that funds will be #safu.
I feel uncomfortable with that.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: mk4 on May 08, 2019, 11:35:29 AM
Looks like hacking a crypto exchange has become so easy nowadays that no security system can guarantee that funds will be #safu.
I feel uncomfortable with that.

It's definitely not easy, but it was never impossible. A top exchange with holdings of a significant amount of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general, a security breach is almost inevitable due to the number of hackers trying to break the system. "Not your keys, not your coins".


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Naida_BR on May 08, 2019, 12:20:53 PM
rip 7k btc.

Source: https://binance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028031711
TX: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e8b406091959700dbffcff30a60b190133721e5c39e89bb5fe23c5a554ab05ea




And let's not forget some Words of Wisdom from CZ


"Store coins yourself. You fight hackers yourself, and guard from losing wallet yourself. Computer breaks, USBs gets lost.

Store on an exchange. Only use the most reputable, proven secure, exchanges.

Or move to DEX, disrupt ourselves. https://t.co/Ci4ux9I3VD
"

— CZ. Jan 15, 2019


It is nice that the #SAFU fund is going to be used and Binance will cover the losses, but I believe that there will be a big drop in bitcoin price and in market capitalization. I think that hackers are going to exchange this cryptocurrency amount to fiat instead of hodling.
It is not safe to store your coins in exchanges but always some amounts will stay there that traders need to store there for their activities.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: mk4 on May 08, 2019, 12:46:13 PM
I think that hackers are going to exchange this cryptocurrency amount to fiat instead of hodling.

Unlikely, if the hackers are smart enough. Trying to sell the BTC for fiat is going to be very difficult for them due to the blockchain's transparency. Selling the stolen BTC on exchanges is already out of the equation. The only chance they have for now is to sell it peer to peer in person, which is another risk, as the buyer can easily report them to the authorities(if the buyer is aware that the funds are stolen).


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Artemis3 on May 08, 2019, 12:58:28 PM
The people who love to leave funds on exchanges unnecessarily for some reason are very lucky that Binance is going to cover the losses.

Jeebus. CZ actually thought of trying to convince miners to do a re-org.

https://i.imgur.com/7bcuzrS.png

Tweet link: https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1125996194734399488


This from their twitter (https://twitter.com/binance):

Quote from: CZ Binance
After speaking with various parties, including @JeremyRubin (https://twitter.com/JeremyRubin), @_prestwich (https://twitter.com/_prestwich), @bcmakes (https://twitter.com/bcmakes), @hasufl (https://twitter.com/hasufl), @JihanWu (https://twitter.com/JihanWu) and others, we decided NOT to pursue the re-org approach. Considerations being:

Pros:
  • 1 we could "revenge" the hackers by "moving" the fees to miners;
  • 2 deter future hacking attempts in the process.
  • 3 explore the possibility of how bitcoin network would deal with situations like these.

Cons:
  • 1 we may damage credibility of BTC,
  • 2 we may cause a split in both the bitcoin network and community. Both of these damages seems to out-weight $40m revenge.
  • 3 the hackers did demonstrate certain weak points in our design and user confusion, that was not obvious before.
  • 4 While it is a very expensive lesson for us, it is nevertheless a lesson. it was our responsibility to safe guard user funds. We should own up it. We will learn and improve. As always, thank you for your support!

And as someone correctly pointed out (in the second comment (http://)):

  • Melik Manukyan
🌮You didn't decide not to, you realized you cannot.

  • CZ Binance
‏true that too, that's what Jihan advised/educated me on too.  I trust his advice.

  • Simon Dixon
Why would you even consider it? If Binance can re-org Bitcoin we might as well all get out of crypto as JP Morgan and the Fed could too.

  • Cicero
‏people still don't understand the value of immutability, the whole point is people shouldn't cover others stupidity

  • Spartanec
It's scary that you considered  rollback option on #BTC chain.

  • CZ Binance
‏would be very hard to pull off anyway, not for $40m.  Most miners will not "centralize" together just for that.  But it was suggested by some great minds, we learned, considered, and decided not to pursue further.

What is exactly in the mind of these people, Reorganize Bitcoin? Just what those millionaires think they are, lol it took their fellow Jihan Wu to straight them out... (Ie. "I tried but failed...").

Also they should learn from Ethereum when they did that grave mistake that split their blockchain forever...

"Not for $40m"... So they haven't learned their lesson. Some millionaire out there still thinks he can pull off a Bitcoin reorg if he loses some more. Thanks their leniency they "just" losing $40m... What amount would it warrant them doing a fork, or would that be a 51% attack?


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: izanagi narukami on May 08, 2019, 01:03:52 PM
This is really sad when people already being convince to join crypto but it's still hackable

So what's the point of SHA 256 things when hacking incident keep happen in the future ?
With those amount, I'm sure there will be downtrend very soon


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: CoinEraser on May 08, 2019, 01:06:25 PM
Unfortunately you can see again through this hack that no system is really safe and everything and everyone can be hacked. Although the hack is certainly a shock moment for Binance, but through SAFU fund will certainly make everything go well. I'm sure Binance will handle the hack well and it shows, that not every hack in the Bitcoin world will end in a disaster.  :)


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Artemis3 on May 08, 2019, 01:06:50 PM
This is really sad when people already being convince to join crypto but it's still hackable

So what's the point of SHA 256 things when hacking incident keep happen in the future ?
With those amount, I'm sure there will be downtrend very soon

Bitcoin was not "hacked", that exchange was might have. It was them people failing to protect their exchange funds, not a flaw in Bitcoin. Blaming it on Bitcoin is irresponsible at best.

Edited In case it was a phishing/malware attack performed on users and not an exchange security fault.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Mpamaegbu on May 08, 2019, 01:23:40 PM
From the same link you posted above:

Quote
Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.

People will be withdrawing all their coins from their platform to keep their funds safe from any future hacks. Its quite surprising to see Binance been hacked with all their security measures and protocols.
It's really sad this has happened but I don't know why people should be withdrawing their coins after the hack despite the assurance that the lost coins will be covered through SAFU. I am a customer of Binance and I believe it's premature to withdraw my coins at this time. Panic withdrawal is the last thing the Binance exchange needs now. Our support for them should wax strong.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: mk4 on May 08, 2019, 02:15:58 PM
This is really sad when people already being convince to join crypto but it's still hackable
Your point being? An exchange got hacked, not bitcoin.

So what's the point of SHA 256 things when hacking incident keep happen in the future ?
It's like saying what's the point of banking security if people can get robbed on the street? Maybe try listening to what you're saying.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: clover12 on May 08, 2019, 02:18:56 PM
Without reading this forum message. I never would known of the hackings. Then logged into my Binance account, my funds are all sitting still there!  :)


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: pawanjain on May 08, 2019, 02:23:50 PM
From the same link you posted above:

Quote
Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.
The concern here is not about the funds stolen but about the security breach that allowed the hackers to steal bticoins from the Binance exchange.
The amount 7k BTC now but it can be a greater amount in the future. Although Binance claims that the funds were stolen from the hot wallet which consisted of only 2% of their balance.
What happened to all those security firms Binance partnered with over the last few months ? I am sure they must be having a hard time now that the Binance is hacked.
Although Binance is concerned about the stolen funds and will use SAFU to recover the funds, we as it's users should be aware that any exchange can be hacked and shall keep only a limited amount on the exchange.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: CryptoLing on May 08, 2019, 02:39:52 PM
I like how Binance handle the hack. The team is very responsive and also they guarantee that all fund will be refund.
We all know how "another" exchange that was hack earlier this year and the safety of the fund is still unknown...


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on May 08, 2019, 02:39:54 PM
Its quite surprising to see Binance been hacked with all their security measures and protocols.
Yep, they have more security features on their site than I've ever seen anywhere else.  I'm not sure whether I should be surprised or suspicious, if you know what I mean.

Fortunately, the bitcoin deposit I made right when all this shit went down made it into my account and I was able to buy some NEO with it.  The problem right now is that I can't withdraw anything, and I don't know when that's going to get fixed.  Binance said it should be about a week, but I'm not sure what to believe right now.

This is really sad when people already being convince to join crypto but it's still hackable
Your point being? An exchange got hacked, not bitcoin.
You know when you hear somebody say "join crypto" they have no clue what they're talking about. 


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: TryNinja on May 08, 2019, 02:41:03 PM
The concern here is not about the funds stolen but about the security breach that allowed the hackers to steal bticoins from the Binance exchange.
The amount 7k BTC now but it can be a greater amount in the future. Although Binance claims that the funds were stolen from the hot wallet which consisted of only 2% of their balance.
What happened to all those security firms Binance partnered with over the last few months ? I am sure they must be having a hard time now that the Binance is hacked.
Although Binance is concerned about the stolen funds and will use SAFU to recover the funds, we as it's users should be aware that any exchange can be hacked and shall keep only a limited amount on the exchange.

There was no “hack invasion”. The article says that the hacker got a big number of API and credentials from users by using phishing attacks, virus and other methods. Thus, the big problem wasn’t on the exchange, but on the users. The part which was Binance’s fault is that they couldn’t block the massive withdrawal of 7k BTC before it happened.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: FauxHammer on May 08, 2019, 03:13:37 PM
There was no “hack invasion”. The article says that the hacker got a big number of API and credentials from users by using phishing attacks, virus and other methods. Thus, the big problem wasn’t on the exchange, but on the users. The part which was Binance’s fault is that they couldn’t block the massive withdrawal of 7k BTC before it happened.

Exactly, but this is what Binance is saying, this is their official statement. I don't have any reasons to distrust them, but such it's very fragile situation. I agree with the fact that they should block this withdrawal or be prepared for it.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Artemis3 on May 08, 2019, 03:30:06 PM
There was no “hack invasion”. The article says that the hacker got a big number of API and credentials from users by using phishing attacks, virus and other methods. Thus, the big problem wasn’t on the exchange, but on the users. The part which was Binance’s fault is that they couldn’t block the massive withdrawal of 7k BTC before it happened.

Exactly, but this is what Binance is saying, this is their official statement. I don't have any reasons to distrust them, but such it's very fragile situation. I agree with the fact that they should block this withdrawal or be prepared for it.

Phishing and malware are not even Binance's fault. But, the reality might be different.

As for funds still showing, well the thing is you can't move them (in or out). So they may "show" there but that is always true in all bankruns until people actually want to withdraw at the same time. The point of damage control is to calm people so they don't do this, so the bank can cope with the withdraws.

An exchange doesn't really use fractional reserve (or shouldn't) but arbitrarily restricting withdraw does send an alarm, even if everything is fine.

A full reserve bank (or exchange) has never nothing to fear should their clients decide to withdraw. If it is what they claim only 2% is lost and their earnings are well above that then sure no problem. The fear is of course if they are telling the truth, because if the situation IS worse i doubt they would disclose it, precisely to avoid the run.

For the time being everyone has to renew their API keys, trading within the exchange is the only thing you can do for now.

We can only hope they are telling the truth and are not going to pull another nicehash stunt. But the community has every reason to be concerned.

Thankfully the vast majority of the funds are protected on cold wallets, as they should, and only a minuscule fraction (2%) was hot for daily transactions, which is what they claim was stolen.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: mk4 on May 08, 2019, 03:32:53 PM
There was no “hack invasion”. The article says that the hacker got a big number of API and credentials from users by using phishing attacks, virus and other methods. Thus, the big problem wasn’t on the exchange, but on the users. The part which was Binance’s fault is that they couldn’t block the massive withdrawal of 7k BTC before it happened.

Is there something I don't get here? If the stolen bitcoin was from vulnerable user's accounts as they have claimed, why was the withdrawal one massive transaction instead of multiple transactions of varying sizes from multiple wallets/accounts? Am I missing something here?


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: TryNinja on May 08, 2019, 03:38:09 PM
Is there something I don't get here? If the stolen bitcoin was from vulnerable user's accounts as they have claimed, why was the withdrawal one massive transaction instead of multiple transactions of varying sizes from multiple wallets/accounts? Am I missing something here?
To be fair, the tx had 44 outputs to different addresses (that could be 44 different accounts/withdrawals). Maybe the hacker targeted users with a big balance, or something like this. I can’t really know. I don’t even know if what they are saying is true... (I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt here).


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: --DarkSecrets-- on May 08, 2019, 03:43:52 PM
rip 7k btc.

Source: https://binance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028031711
TX: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e8b406091959700dbffcff30a60b190133721e5c39e89bb5fe23c5a554ab05ea




And let's not forget some Words of Wisdom from CZ


"Store coins yourself. You fight hackers yourself, and guard from losing wallet yourself. Computer breaks, USBs gets lost.

Store on an exchange. Only use the most reputable, proven secure, exchanges.

Or move to DEX, disrupt ourselves. https://t.co/Ci4ux9I3VD
"

— CZ. Jan 15, 2019

Its nothing new with this one, I am thinking how it happens and even always in the same scenario's where bitcoin pumps hard then all of a sudden hack news or negative news pop's up. I know this is real but, that's a big question to in my mind. Going back to the topic all exchange is vulnerable to hackers no system is safe. Only humans created binance and so we can expect a human knowledge also can enter and disrupt the security of any exchange. Its good only that binance team who manages the backend notice it faster and prevent hackers for stealing more funds inside the exchange.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: mirawantirinjana on May 08, 2019, 05:09:30 PM
Without reading this forum message. I never would known of the hackings. Then logged into my Binance account, my funds are all sitting still there!  :)
I also just heard this news from this forum, if I didn't read this maybe I wouldn't know about this news, my question is whether this will affect the price of bitcoin in the next few days?


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on May 08, 2019, 05:17:36 PM
This is really sad when people already being convince to join crypto but it's still hackable

Hacks are not limited to crypto-currency exchanges. Every day, the bank accounts and credit cards of millions of people get hacked. Obviously these incidents don't get much media limelight, as they are considered as nothing out of the ordinary. Money is not safe if it is stored in third party storage, such as banks (in case of fiat) or crypto-exchanges (in case of BTC).


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: el kaka22 on May 08, 2019, 05:20:32 PM
This is literally nothing for binance, do you know how big binance is? For every 100 bitcoin (all altcoins etc combined of course not just btc) traded on their website they get at least 0.05 bitcoin for it, for every 2000 bitcoin they get 1 bitcoin in return, which means every 14 million bitcoins (not just bitcoins I remind you, all trades combined) traded on their website they recoup that money.

Something as big as 7 thousand bitcoins for you and I means absolutely nothing to them. They can recoup that in no time and continue their operation like nothing happened. This "in between time" is only there because they want to stop what the hacker did and prevent it to happen again, that is much more important than the money lost, that could be profited later on but defending yourself for further hacking is much more important.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: andreibi on May 08, 2019, 05:22:47 PM
This is really sad when people already being convince to join crypto but it's still hackable

Hacks are not limited to crypto-currency exchanges. Every day, the bank accounts and credit cards of millions of people get hacked. Obviously these incidents don't get much media limelight, as they are considered as nothing out of the ordinary. Money is not safe if it is stored in third party storage, such as banks (in case of fiat) or crypto-exchanges (in case of BTC).

Precisely. Anything and everything online and accessible through the Internet is hackable. There is no 100% hack proof security. It is because we are still humans and can be exploited by social engineering.

Keep your private keys to yourself, only then it's 100% hack proof.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Bagaji on May 08, 2019, 05:27:21 PM
From the same link you posted above:

Quote
Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.

That's a good news as they will refill victims funds back to them, that make Binance the best among all exchanges becasue i strongly believe that, this is the first time to hear such a thing, although anyone can prove me wrong either.

Although the security breach in such a big exchange called for questions becasue i believe that such an exchange should have a very tight security to protect the customers funds. Let them increase their internal and external security protocols.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: ApocalypseNow on May 09, 2019, 02:59:20 AM
rip 7k btc.

Source: https://binance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028031711
TX: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e8b406091959700dbffcff30a60b190133721e5c39e89bb5fe23c5a554ab05ea




And let's not forget some Words of Wisdom from CZ


"Store coins yourself. You fight hackers yourself, and guard from losing wallet yourself. Computer breaks, USBs gets lost.

Store on an exchange. Only use the most reputable, proven secure, exchanges.

Or move to DEX, disrupt ourselves. https://t.co/Ci4ux9I3VD
"

— CZ. Jan 15, 2019






Binance has always the upper hand when it comes to securing digital assets so I don't what will happens after this. We can really see the irony of what he said and what happened. This really proves that it is mandatory for everyone to have their hardware ledger cold wallets because hacking is really unstoppable no matter how great the exchange is.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: maxreish on May 09, 2019, 03:01:29 AM
From the same link you posted above:

Quote
Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.

In as much that their security has been breached, people are not concerned  about them using SAFU fund to cover the funds stolen. People will be withdrawing all their coins from their platform to keep their funds safe from any future hacks. Its quite surprising to see Binance been hacked with all their security measures and protocols.

I've been thinking that, too. Many traders of binance will eventually withdrawing and/or pulling out their fund after this hacking issues. The trust and reputation of a big and established exchange like binance are already ruined. Let's just face that. Even if they will gonna repay the hacked amount or repay the btc amount, the issue here is that it wasn't secure at all and that we shouldn't let our btc fund left in any exchange.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: jambul_kribo on May 09, 2019, 03:21:10 AM
From the same link you posted above:

Quote
Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.

In as much that their security has been breached, people are not concerned  about them using SAFU fund to cover the funds stolen. People will be withdrawing all their coins from their platform to keep their funds safe from any future hacks. Its quite surprising to see Binance been hacked with all their security measures and protocols.

I've been thinking that, too. Many traders of binance will eventually withdrawing and/or pulling out their fund after this hacking issues. The trust and reputation of a big and established exchange like binance are already ruined. Let's just face that. Even if they will gonna repay the hacked amount or repay the btc amount, the issue here is that it wasn't secure at all and that we shouldn't let our btc fund left in any exchange.
most of traders put their crypto asset in exchanges wallet.and this is be main issu at this moment.exchanges must improve their security level into several layers.and we as crypto investors should do preventing action by saving our asset into hardware wallet or cold wallet.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: SirLancelot on May 09, 2019, 06:51:21 AM
This kind of situation is terrible because as we know when there is a hack action related to security, it will have a significant impact on the price movements of Bitcoin in the market.

I hope that the public does not act in panic sell because this will only worsen the situation, let us maintain the stability of the joint price because with this, prices can be controlled.
This is actually bad. This is truly not good because Binance has had a history of greatness in the crypto space since long. According to a report by Binance, Bitcoins worth more than $40million have been stolen in a large scale hack. The hackers had actually stolen API keys, 2FA codes and other information in the attack which means that it is not impossible to decode what a human codes.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: spadormie on May 09, 2019, 06:55:18 AM
From the same link you posted above:

Quote
Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.
I am hearing this word SAFU and I don't actually know its meaning. Is it just safe or is there a meaning behind that?
Having funds safe on this exchange, means that even though it become vulnerable to hacks, the funds of users still survives. This change my idea on that exchange.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: TryNinja on May 09, 2019, 08:26:34 AM
I am hearing this word SAFU and I don't actually know its meaning. Is it just safe or is there a meaning behind that?
Having funds safe on this exchange, means that even though it become vulnerable to hacks, the funds of users still survives. This change my idea on that exchange.
It’s a self-insurance fund. If they lose up to X BTC, they will cover the loss.

Also, it’s a meme. CZ (Binance’s CEO) said “funds are safu” last year and became a meme.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: hawkins on May 09, 2019, 08:40:33 AM
From the same link you posted above:

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Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.
I am hearing this word SAFU and I don't actually know its meaning. Is it just safe or is there a meaning behind that?
Having funds safe on this exchange, means that even though it become vulnerable to hacks, the funds of users still survives. This change my idea on that exchange.
SAFU may be like bitcoin insurance, with that they can replace leaks that occur on their exchangers, and do not affect members. but, I heard that it made the binance need to hold the WD / Deposit for 1 week. well, this might be really difficult even for companies like binance.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: emmybd on May 09, 2019, 09:52:12 AM
Binance has been considered one of the safest exchange out there. If hackers can penetrate with all the security measures then it proves that much more needs to be done to secure investors funds.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: 1Referee on May 09, 2019, 10:24:21 AM
SAFU may be like bitcoin insurance, with that they can replace leaks that occur on their exchangers, and do not affect members. but, I heard that it made the binance need to hold the WD / Deposit for 1 week. well, this might be really difficult even for companies like binance.

It could be less or more than a week. As long as Binance itself doesn't know how the hackers managed to manipulate their security measures, no funds will be able to move out.

I like the fact that they have their much memed SAFU fund, but it still sucks because people don't know how long exactly it will take before they can access their crypto funds again. This once again shows that you completely depend on the exchange's mercy to allow you to withdraw. Imagine the stress people go through despite the statement from CZ that they will utilize their SAFU fund.

People somehow thought Binance was a fort knox that would never get hacked, well, they were wrong. ::)


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: NavI_027 on May 09, 2019, 10:43:26 AM
Binance has been considered one of the safest exchange out there. If hackers can penetrate with all the security measures then it proves that much more needs to be done to secure investors funds.
I observed lately that many news report about this incident spread like a wildfire in social medias which definitely got a bad side for both parties (Binance itself, customers and future investors) because money is not the only one which is lost here, their good impression to the people was affected as well.

Anyway, Yes! We all knew that the Binance is on the top of the pyramid when it comes to exchanges but it doesn't mean that they are perfect already. Committing mistakes is inevitable, the important thing is they try to make up on the damage they've been made. The following quote posted by 1Referee  is the best to describe the current situation ;D, I agree on it.

People somehow thought Binance was a fort knox that would never get hacked, well, they were wrong. ::)


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: btcmegastar on May 09, 2019, 12:27:41 PM
This is really sad when people already being convince to join crypto but it's still hackable

Hacks are not limited to crypto-currency exchanges. Every day, the bank accounts and credit cards of millions of people get hacked. Obviously these incidents don't get much media limelight, as they are considered as nothing out of the ordinary. Money is not safe if it is stored in third party storage, such as banks (in case of fiat) or crypto-exchanges (in case of BTC).

Exactly, the most priority we are going to lose if we store them in Banks, Cryptocurrency exchanges etc. It is not safe even we store them in our house too, we cannot blame anything but we should secure ourselves in order by holding the money and providing some good security to it. Keeping them in the third party has much higher chances of loss compared to with us.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: pawanjain on May 09, 2019, 02:49:02 PM
From the same link you posted above:

Quote
Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.
I am hearing this word SAFU and I don't actually know its meaning. Is it just safe or is there a meaning behind that?
Having funds safe on this exchange, means that even though it become vulnerable to hacks, the funds of users still survives. This change my idea on that exchange.
SAFU is an acronym for Secure Asset Fund for Users which is basically an insurance for the binance users which was started on 3rd July 2018.
Binance pays 10% of it's trading fees to keep the SAFU active. For more info on SAFU refer the below link.

https://www.binance.vision/glossary/secure-asset-fund-for-users


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: malikusama on May 10, 2019, 12:45:17 AM
From the same link you posted above:

Quote
Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.

In as much that their security has been breached, people are not concerned  about them using SAFU fund to cover the funds stolen. People will be withdrawing all their coins from their platform to keep their funds safe from any future hacks. Its quite surprising to see Binance been hacked with all their security measures and protocols.

Nothing is fully secure online, if you really care about your funds then don't put them on exchanges for a long time.
Btw I am glad to hear this statement above that "No user funds will be affected", this is what a reputed and trusted exchange should do.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Furious 7 on May 10, 2019, 01:46:16 AM
Without reading this forum message. I never would known of the hackings. Then logged into my Binance account, my funds are all sitting still there!  :)
I also just heard this news from this forum, if I didn't read this maybe I wouldn't know about this news, my question is whether this will affect the price of bitcoin in the next few days?

Of course this will affect the price of Bitcoin. Binance is the most popular and trusted exchange today and the amount of loss is huge. besides that binance has a large community so this will trigger a negative trend. Some anticipations have been made quickly, namely to stop deposit and withdrawal services and then provide insurance services with SAFU. I don't think this will have a longer effect.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Flyingduck2K on May 10, 2019, 02:00:59 AM
I'm retty sure someone is enjoying their cocktails in the Caribbeans at the moment. Nonetheless, it's quite impressive how much money 2% of binance makes.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Remainder on May 10, 2019, 02:20:31 AM
Without reading this forum message. I never would known of the hackings. Then logged into my Binance account, my funds are all sitting still there!  :)
I also just heard this news from this forum, if I didn't read this maybe I wouldn't know about this news, my question is whether this will affect the price of bitcoin in the next few days?

Of course this will affect the price of Bitcoin. Binance is the most popular and trusted exchange today and the amount of loss is huge. besides that binance has a large community so this will trigger a negative trend. Some anticipations have been made quickly, namely to stop deposit and withdrawal services and then provide insurance services with SAFU. I don't think this will have a longer effect.

It affects but not the effect we are expecting because bitcoin seems to be mooning after the Binance Hack.

As an investor, should we say good job Binance?  ;D
All we want is just for Bitcoin to rise and it happened, and still happening now.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: viralmetaphore on May 10, 2019, 02:32:38 AM
It's sad for Binance. It's sad for newcryptocornes... Looking to learn and to trust. Binace had been making a good reputable work to push whole community forward. However. The whole community should learn about this transaction.... I'm quite glad this happened (not because someone is loosing BTC) but because this is how we see how truly BTC is. BTC can not distinguish if is some bad, "hacked" transaction. It just does what it has to do, It is the purest of the system. In any mistake there is always something to learn

Best wishes for binance, and binance traders, newcorners aswell


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: kynaz on May 10, 2019, 04:18:36 AM
Binance has been considered one of the safest exchange out there. If hackers can penetrate with all the security measures then it proves that much more needs to be done to secure investors funds.
After this attack, Binance definitely needs to add other security features to make everyone's withdrawal safe. This will happen the week after Binance has official announcements on this issue. In the meantime, consider investing in altcoin which is present in this exchange because the loss of 2% of the BTC has caused this market to have a huge decline. Anyway Binance still guarantees assets for customers so I won't worry much about this


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Jating on May 10, 2019, 06:04:42 AM
Binance has been considered one of the safest exchange out there. If hackers can penetrate with all the security measures then it proves that much more needs to be done to secure investors funds.
After this attack, Binance definitely needs to add other security features to make everyone's withdrawal safe. This will happen the week after Binance has official announcements on this issue. In the meantime, consider investing in altcoin which is present in this exchange because the loss of 2% of the BTC has caused this market to have a huge decline. Anyway Binance still guarantees assets for customers so I won't worry much about this

Huge decline on Altcoin market? I don't think it has something to do with the hack.

The decline was cause by smart investors moving their funds to bitcoin. Haven't you check the dominance of bitcoin as of lately? Close to 60% now, which means that the they are all moving to bitcoin ecosystem.

As for the addition of security features, I saw CZ tweets that his people hasn't had that much sleep in the last couple of days, so I'm sure they are working hard on the security as of this moment.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: nik009 on May 10, 2019, 06:08:02 AM
The loss of 7.074 BTC is not a problem for such top exchanges as Binance, but this is another confirmation that your funds on any exchange can not be safe.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Osarman on May 10, 2019, 06:21:17 AM
rip 7k btc.

Source: https://binance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028031711
TX: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e8b406091959700dbffcff30a60b190133721e5c39e89bb5fe23c5a554ab05ea




And let's not forget some Words of Wisdom from CZ


"Store coins yourself. You fight hackers yourself, and guard from losing wallet yourself. Computer breaks, USBs gets lost.

Store on an exchange. Only use the most reputable, proven secure, exchanges.

Or move to DEX, disrupt ourselves. https://t.co/Ci4ux9I3VD
"

— CZ. Jan 15, 2019






Binance has always the upper hand when it comes to securing digital assets so I don't what will happens after this. We can really see the irony of what he said and what happened. This really proves that it is mandatory for everyone to have their hardware ledger cold wallets because hacking is really unstoppable no matter how great the exchange is.
Binance got hacked and about 7000 Bitcoins have been stolen that is a very big amount and a shocking news but now the exchange will must be improving their security even stronger than before. As we know that the hackers were very sharp in hacking the world’s leading exchange and this could be happened with other exchanges too. So all of them should really 2x their security due to these hackers the system faces with lose.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Nunoluck on May 10, 2019, 07:39:37 AM
Really bad news. Its make me more worry now. I still has some BTC in an exchange I think I should move it now. The fight again hackers will never end. Even big and famous exchange like binance has been hacked too. Government should help to decrease the number of cybercrime, so police should catch the hacker who did this.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: sulendra12 on May 10, 2019, 08:15:53 AM
The loss of 7.074 BTC is not a problem for such top exchanges as Binance, but this is another confirmation that your funds on any exchange can not be safe.
But still 7k BTC is a huge loss. Big exchange such as Binance shouldn't let that happen, I mean they have to increase their security because in 2018 there was also the same accident with hacked stuff. If they don't do anything, then worse case would be happen in the future.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Pursuer on May 10, 2019, 08:22:01 AM
Binance has been considered one of the safest exchange out there. If hackers can penetrate with all the security measures then it proves that much more needs to be done to secure investors funds.
After this attack, Binance definitely needs to add other security features to make everyone's withdrawal safe. This will happen the week after Binance has official announcements on this issue. In the meantime, consider investing in altcoin which is present in this exchange because the loss of 2% of the BTC has caused this market to have a huge decline. Anyway Binance still guarantees assets for customers so I won't worry much about this

Huge decline on Altcoin market? I don't think it has something to do with the hack.

The decline was cause by smart investors moving their funds to bitcoin. Haven't you check the dominance of bitcoin as of lately? Close to 60% now, which means that the they are all moving to bitcoin ecosystem.

As for the addition of security features, I saw CZ tweets that his people hasn't had that much sleep in the last couple of days, so I'm sure they are working hard on the security as of this moment.

the altcoin dumps is mainly because of bitcoin price rise, I agree there  but also there are many cases of some of the big coins that the dumps are because they were recently pumped (a small pump but still a pump) and they needed to be dumped and the bitcoin price rise was like the ignition that kick started that dump.

as for Binance's tweets, it is mostly to keep their users calm and prevent a small part of the panic withdrawal and sell attempts that has been going on ever since the hack news came out. otherwise the hack happened and they lost $40 million, it is too late to have sleepless nights to increase security.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: OrangeSeller on May 10, 2019, 08:35:00 AM
From the same link you posted above:

Quote
Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.
I am hearing this word SAFU and I don't actually know its meaning. Is it just safe or is there a meaning behind that?
Having funds safe on this exchange, means that even though it become vulnerable to hacks, the funds of users still survives. This change my idea on that exchange.
SAFU may be like bitcoin insurance, with that they can replace leaks that occur on their exchangers, and do not affect members. but, I heard that it made the binance need to hold the WD / Deposit for 1 week. well, this might be really difficult even for companies like binance.
Of course man any company would find it very hard to deal with such a big hack that claimed more than 7000 Bitcoins worth more than $40 million. Binance is a great exchange and they are proving it again that it should be the exchange you should be part of. The security system of course is still a mater of concern but I feel they will work over it. This hack proved that a human can decode or undo anything another human codes.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: sana54210 on May 10, 2019, 10:02:03 AM
I am hearing this word SAFU and I don't actually know its meaning. Is it just safe or is there a meaning behind that?
Having funds safe on this exchange, means that even though it become vulnerable to hacks, the funds of users still survives. This change my idea on that exchange.
It’s a self-insurance fund. If they lose up to X BTC, they will cover the loss.

Also, it’s a meme. CZ (Binance’s CEO) said “funds are safu” last year and became a meme.
LOL, I love this forum, it is really a learning place, this issue of Binance was the first time I will also know what the word meant, at first when I saw it, I interpreted it as safe because I understand that majority of us have English barrier issue, till I saw that same word from a forum user I could bet is an English professor.

Well, it is a good thing they have that sort of self-insurance policy in place for users, it reduces the rate at which people will panic when such circumstance occurs, but they need to continue encouraging people to keep their fund safe in their wallet themselves, instead of storing their coin on the exchange wallet, so they don’t keep paying heavily for what they know nothing about, imagine that the hacker stole over 50,000 btc through them,would that not lead to bankruptcy?


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Chinocshyp on May 10, 2019, 10:06:54 AM
Personally, I believe that hacking has just begun. it's beyond a reasonable doubt that the reason why hackers have been under the hood was because of the bear run - hacking has not been profitable for them. now that the market is gaining momentum, there would be problems. this is because of the fact that the price of btc will make hacking extremely profitable for hackers. it takes hackers millions of dollars sometimes to hack exchanges. so expect the levels of hacking to increase 10 folds when the markets go back up. I personally will be very careful with exchanges this time.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: abeecrypto on May 10, 2019, 11:10:43 AM
No exchanges are ever safe. as a matter of fact, this is just the beginning. something needs to be done about these hacks. some one suggested introducing the ability to revere transactions. for that to happen, 51% of miners must support it. but this will open the doors to more disastrous problems which are unforeseen. the hackers would have made away with more, had most of the funds not being on hardware wallets. I hope something is done and fast. till then, what Cz said is true; the decentralized nature of blockchain means that the security of your funds is in your hands. never put all your eggs in one basket.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: wolizidan on May 10, 2019, 11:16:53 AM
It is said that attack happened from phishing and viruses to obtain a large number of 2FA codes and API keys


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: entebah on May 10, 2019, 07:38:45 PM
Yes, once again this is bad news for the Crypto world, because the Binance market has been hacked, but Binance is a big exchange and has large funds so it won't be miserable despite losing a lot of BTC.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: bitbunnny on May 10, 2019, 07:55:20 PM
Yes, once again this is bad news for the Crypto world, because the Binance market has been hacked, but Binance is a big exchange and has large funds so it won't be miserable despite losing a lot of BTC.

A bad news for crypto world, yes, but I would say not unexpected. Exchanges are very often the target of hackers and I think it's about time to start care a little bit more on security. That doesn't guarantee they will not be hacked because 100% security doesn't exist but at the moment they don't pay enough attention to that.
Still it looks that this time Binance hacking didn't influence Bitcoin price in bad way.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Zadicar on May 10, 2019, 09:04:58 PM
-snip-

Binance has always the upper hand when it comes to securing digital assets so I don't what will happens after this. We can really see the irony of what he said and what happened. This really proves that it is mandatory for everyone to have their hardware ledger cold wallets because hacking is really unstoppable no matter how great the exchange is.
Binance got hacked and about 7000 Bitcoins have been stolen that is a very big amount and a shocking news but now the exchange will must be improving their security even stronger than before. As we know that the hackers were very sharp in hacking the world’s leading exchange and this could be happened with other exchanges too. So all of them should really 2x their security due to these hackers the system faces with lose.
Exchangers is built by humans which means it can be hacked by humans too.Theres no such thing on having 100% security and all of exchangers are vulnerable to hack thats why
its always been advised for a thousand times that we never should store our coins for too long on an exchange.I do appreciate on what CZ so said here, inspite on making excuses about their
vulnerability he do chose up to give up some words of wisdom which is typically good on my part.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: princerepon on May 10, 2019, 10:20:25 PM
rip 7k btc.

Source: https://binance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028031711
TX: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e8b406091959700dbffcff30a60b190133721e5c39e89bb5fe23c5a554ab05ea


And let's not forget some Words of Wisdom from CZ


"Store coins yourself. You fight hackers yourself, and guard from losing wallet yourself. Computer breaks, USBs gets lost.

Store on an exchange. Only use the most reputable, proven secure, exchanges.

Or move to DEX, disrupt ourselves. https://t.co/Ci4ux9I3VD
"

— CZ. Jan 15, 2019


It's really sad that binance also didn't survive from hakers. When many exchange going through this trouble only binance was more secure exchange. but it's hacked also. now personal wallet is the best option now days i think. binance is one of top crypto currency exchange in crypto world. many people trade in binance. so they have to more alert about being hacked. 


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: dark08 on May 10, 2019, 10:33:36 PM
rip 7k btc.

Source: https://binance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028031711
TX: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e8b406091959700dbffcff30a60b190133721e5c39e89bb5fe23c5a554ab05ea


And let's not forget some Words of Wisdom from CZ


"Store coins yourself. You fight hackers yourself, and guard from losing wallet yourself. Computer breaks, USBs gets lost.

Store on an exchange. Only use the most reputable, proven secure, exchanges.

Or move to DEX, disrupt ourselves. https://t.co/Ci4ux9I3VD
"

— CZ. Jan 15, 2019


It's really sad that binance also didn't survive from hakers. When many exchange going through this trouble only binance was more secure exchange. but it's hacked also. now personal wallet is the best option now days i think. binance is one of top crypto currency exchange in crypto world. many people trade in binance. so they have to more alert about being hacked. 

In that case the security of Binance is not really high to survive from the hacker the good thing in that case CZ will cover the lose which is a big amount of Bitcoin specially for an ordinary people like me.
Exchange site is only for in and out not for storing for long term look at what happen to Binance.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: richminded on May 10, 2019, 11:10:32 PM
The loss of 7.074 BTC is not a problem for such top exchanges as Binance, but this is another confirmation that your funds on any exchange can not be safe.
Yes they can paid that and shoulder all the loss but their reputation have the scratch now, binance failed to secured some bitcoin with this. There’s no safe exchange, don’t put all in with the exchanges because if there’s more exchange to be hacked, some of them will not act like Binance.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: kynaz on May 11, 2019, 05:05:24 AM
Yes, once again this is bad news for the Crypto world, because the Binance market has been hacked, but Binance is a big exchange and has large funds so it won't be miserable despite losing a lot of BTC.

A bad news for crypto world, yes, but I would say not unexpected. Exchanges are very often the target of hackers and I think it's about time to start care a little bit more on security. That doesn't guarantee they will not be hacked because 100% security doesn't exist but at the moment they don't pay enough attention to that.
Still it looks that this time Binance hacking didn't influence Bitcoin price in bad way.
Binance has a great reputation and people are always interested in this news. I think losing more than 7000 BTC is not a big problem for this exchange and we need to wait for the upcoming big news. Of course this is still a loss affecting this market but thanks to SAFU development fund, we do not need to worry much because people will still deposit and withdraw money normally in the future so don't worry and pray for Binance


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: marcbitcoins on May 11, 2019, 05:16:25 AM
That is why it is unwise to put your assets in the exchanges as even this famous exchange site is not safe from the hackers. Hopefully that they could easily recover their lost reputation and regain the crypto users trust as i heard about that their is an inside job activities.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Yaunfitda on May 11, 2019, 05:26:58 AM
That is why it is unwise to put your assets in the exchanges as even this famous exchange site is not safe from the hackers. Hopefully that they could easily recover their lost reputation and regain the crypto users trust as i heard about that their is an inside job activities.

Inside job is all speculation. And as far as I know, this is the first time they've been hacked, so pretty much they have a solid security features. But hackers are always on the lookup for any loophole to be exploited so it's unfortunate that it was binance that gets hacked.

I'm sure they still have their reputation because they are going to covered everything as per their SAFU program.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: LimLims on May 11, 2019, 05:28:09 AM
We all know what's Binance is.
I mean Binance is an exchange who has already faced many difficulties and stood alright no matter how much it had harmed the site.
I was also at first completely shocked by seeing all the currencies withdrawal suspended.
But i know they will quickly start to resume their services.
Many people's hope are still on the exchange and they gonna surely make it proved worthy.
Good luck Binance.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: OrangeSeller on May 11, 2019, 05:50:38 AM
The loss of 7.074 BTC is not a problem for such top exchanges as Binance, but this is another confirmation that your funds on any exchange can not be safe.
But still 7k BTC is a huge loss. Big exchange such as Binance shouldn't let that happen, I mean they have to increase their security because in 2018 there was also the same accident with hacked stuff. If they don't do anything, then worse case would be happen in the future.
Exactly, it is a huge loss and in such businesses each penny matters due to a lot of user potential. But as much I think, the exchange is not much sad due to the loss but the reputation has been effected. This issue needs to be resolved and the security should be improved to 2x that will help the exchange regain both its users and the loss it has made. Still Binance has potential users and they think that the exchange will regain its position again.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Netnox on May 11, 2019, 07:00:25 AM
That is why it is unwise to put your assets in the exchanges as even this famous exchange site is not safe from the hackers. Hopefully that they could easily recover their lost reputation and regain the crypto users trust as i heard about that their is an inside job activities.

Once an exchange gets hacked, it is almost impossible to regain the trust and reputation. Look at what happened to Cryptopia. They are doing their best and they have promised the users that their losses will be reimbursed in the near future. But even after all this, the trade volume is down and it suggests that a number of users have stopped using the platform for trading.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: adaseb on May 11, 2019, 07:42:48 AM
That is why it is unwise to put your assets in the exchanges as even this famous exchange site is not safe from the hackers. Hopefully that they could easily recover their lost reputation and regain the crypto users trust as i heard about that their is an inside job activities.

Once an exchange gets hacked, it is almost impossible to regain the trust and reputation. Look at what happened to Cryptopia. They are doing their best and they have promised the users that their losses will be reimbursed in the near future. But even after all this, the trade volume is down and it suggests that a number of users have stopped using the platform for trading.

Almost every exchange got hacked pretty much. And within time people still regain their trust and reputation. I think when a hack happens, most people don't care as long as they don't get a haircut of the funds.

When Bitfinex got hacked, people were given shares and eventually those shares were redeemed for almost the entire loss. However hacks like Cryptopia or MtGox got a sour taste because most people still to this day don't have access to their funds.

Binance since they decided to cover the losses, most people won't really care and within a month or so everybody will forget. Right now everybody is focusing on the bitcoin price anyways.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Osarman on May 11, 2019, 07:50:01 AM
It is said that attack happened from phishing and viruses to obtain a large number of 2FA codes and API keys
Whatever the reason may be for the hack, it has actually sent fear down the spines of the users of crypto. They now know that their wallets are not secure despite 2FA and having the wallet on the best exchange out there. But the market is not affected at all and is the same. The exchange will cover all the losses but I think it will work a lot on its security to make sure things like these never happen again.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Kevin77 on May 11, 2019, 08:48:39 AM
I still can't believe that 7 THOUSAND bitcoins were stolen from one of the (if not the) biggest exchanges in the world and the bitcoin responded by going up. Normally, if you look at the previous hacks that are this sized or bigger you would realize that prices usually fall after a big hack happens, this time people didn't cared about it at all and the price skyrocket up. That shows two things about bitcoin.

One is people do not care about whats going on in the corners of bitcoin anymore and look at the big picture and see what bitcoin could be instead of what it is right now. The other is people do not care about small numbers like 7 thousand bitcoins as long as it is not cashed out directly and making a dent in the market, people used to fear about that, now they don't care and brave about it.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: neonshium on May 11, 2019, 09:07:02 AM
rip 7k btc.

Source: https://binance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028031711
TX: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e8b406091959700dbffcff30a60b190133721e5c39e89bb5fe23c5a554ab05ea




And let's not forget some Words of Wisdom from CZ


"Store coins yourself. You fight hackers yourself, and guard from losing wallet yourself. Computer breaks, USBs gets lost.

Store on an exchange. Only use the most reputable, proven secure, exchanges.

Or move to DEX, disrupt ourselves. https://t.co/Ci4ux9I3VD
"

— CZ. Jan 15, 2019

This is really worst thing happened with Binance and due to this incident many users get worried as well as concerned about their funds. Now there are many questions has appear in traders mind about their funds. If the exchange like Binance is hacked then users might be get affected due to the horrible news. Binance is the top exchange at the crypto market and there has been done highest trades on a daily basis because there are great traders which has been active on the exchange.

So their trader thinks holding Coins on the exchange is it safe or not. Fortunately Binance is a big exchange and that's why they will recover this amount very soon and overcome the situation by increasing their security level.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Whosdaddy on May 11, 2019, 09:53:10 AM
Binance has been considered one of the safest exchange out there. If hackers can penetrate with all the security measures then it proves that much more needs to be done to secure investors funds.
After this attack, Binance definitely needs to add other security features to make everyone's withdrawal safe. This will happen the week after Binance has official announcements on this issue. In the meantime, consider investing in altcoin which is present in this exchange because the loss of 2% of the BTC has caused this market to have a huge decline. Anyway Binance still guarantees assets for customers so I won't worry much about this

Huge decline on Altcoin market? I don't think it has something to do with the hack.

The decline was cause by smart investors moving their funds to bitcoin. Haven't you check the dominance of bitcoin as of lately? Close to 60% now, which means that the they are all moving to bitcoin ecosystem.

As for the addition of security features, I saw CZ tweets that his people hasn't had that much sleep in the last couple of days, so I'm sure they are working hard on the security as of this moment.

the altcoin dumps is mainly because of bitcoin price rise, I agree there  but also there are many cases of some of the big coins that the dumps are because they were recently pumped (a small pump but still a pump) and they needed to be dumped and the bitcoin price rise was like the ignition that kick started that dump.

as for Binance's tweets, it is mostly to keep their users calm and prevent a small part of the panic withdrawal and sell attempts that has been going on ever since the hack news came out. otherwise the hack happened and they lost $40 million, it is too late to have sleepless nights to increase security.
Yes, absolutely Binance is one of the most top exchange and it was recognized for the safety and security before this incident takes place. It has been really sad news for the team behind the exchange, due to this incident there will get the major effect on those traders who trade daily on the Binance.

Now the team has come up with a better and safer security system which can help them to get over from the situation like this. According to the time they have to increase as much security which cannot get hacked. I strongly hope now the team has started taking massive actions towards its security issue and they will come with the most secure system. As well they will take care of this thing to never take place in the future.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: DavidMott on May 11, 2019, 10:21:25 AM
This is terrible news especially because its coming from such a reputable exchange. Its fair to say that exchanges will always be targeted and that losses will occur. As such, exchanges should offer insurance and it looks like Binance are well versed to cover this which is good to see. Ultimately most fintech companies (not just Cryptocurrency/Blockchain related) are targets to hacking/theft every day.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: upsidedown75 on May 11, 2019, 10:40:27 AM
It's sad for Binance. It's sad for newcryptocornes... Looking to learn and to trust. Binace had been making a good reputable work to push whole community forward. However. The whole community should learn about this transaction.... I'm quite glad this happened (not because someone is loosing BTC) but because this is how we see how truly BTC is. BTC can not distinguish if is some bad, "hacked" transaction. It just does what it has to do, It is the purest of the system. In any mistake there is always something to learn

Best wishes for binance, and binance traders, newcorners aswell
LOL, so you have issue with Binance? I can also see that Binance is declining in value while Bitcoin is gaining more momentum; probably people are beginning to sell their altcoins in Binance wallet for Bitcoin.

We can now see why bitcoin will always be king of these cryptos, why is it bitcoin that came to their mind first when thinking of selling their altcoins? They would have as well changed it or swap it for other coins and send to an ether wallet, but they probably chose bitcoin first as the most reliable. We can also see from this that some altcoins are the reason why money is not flowing into bitcoin market the way it should, now we are taking our money back.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Question123 on May 11, 2019, 01:03:04 PM
Losing 7,074 bitcoin is very sad for Binance,  we know Binance is one of the secure trading site but that's happened last few days ago which is really bad. I think more traders of Binance are affected on that because they have doubt to keep their coins to Binance and pther I think already leave because they did not want to lose also their money. I hope Binance team will take an action for this and secure their security and they need to upgrade and develop more secure system so the hacker will not easily hack.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: lovesybitz on May 11, 2019, 10:32:27 PM
rip 7k btc.

Source: https://binance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028031711
TX: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e8b406091959700dbffcff30a60b190133721e5c39e89bb5fe23c5a554ab05ea




And let's not forget some Words of Wisdom from CZ


"Store coins yourself. You fight hackers yourself, and guard from losing wallet yourself. Computer breaks, USBs gets lost.

Store on an exchange. Only use the most reputable, proven secure, exchanges.

Or move to DEX, disrupt ourselves. https://t.co/Ci4ux9I3VD
"

— CZ. Jan 15, 2019


In addition to what happened, whether the fund are safe, it shows and proof that even the exchange itself was belong at the top platform site risk and danger can't be stop. I doubt that their clients won't get by it, after all what happened, probably some of them are now thinking to shift in the other exchange to trade their coins. This was according to my insight only.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: samcrypto on May 11, 2019, 10:46:18 PM
Losing 7,074 bitcoin is very sad for Binance,  we know Binance is one of the secure trading site but that's happened last few days ago which is really bad. I think more traders of Binance are affected on that because they have doubt to keep their coins to Binance and pther I think already leave because they did not want to lose also their money. I hope Binance team will take an action for this and secure their security and they need to upgrade and develop more secure system so the hacker will not easily hack.
Binance is making things under their control, so we can move on about this issues now since they will pay for that losses and there’s no affected user on this one. Binance is a great exchange that they have more funds to repay the losses, this is how exchanges should prepare for a possible incidents like this, BNB coin will still go up high this year.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Cosbycoin on May 13, 2019, 09:32:06 AM
Losing 7,074 bitcoin is very sad for Binance,  we know Binance is one of the secure trading site but that's happened last few days ago which is really bad. I think more traders of Binance are affected on that because they have doubt to keep their coins to Binance and pther I think already leave because they did not want to lose also their money. I hope Binance team will take an action for this and secure their security and they need to upgrade and develop more secure system so the hacker will not easily hack.
There is no doubt in the fact that it is a point of concern for the exchange and this was a failure of the exchange to be honest but one thing needs to be cleared here. Had the exchange not been Binance and had it been another exchange, it would have found it very difficult or impossible to recover from the loss. Binance proved its metal by rising up in the critical time and this is something that makes Binance the best.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: BlueStackz on May 13, 2019, 09:39:18 AM
That is why it is unwise to put your assets in the exchanges as even this famous exchange site is not safe from the hackers. Hopefully that they could easily recover their lost reputation and regain the crypto users trust as i heard about that their is an inside job activities.
From what I even learnt recently, I learnt that the fraud was not a direct hacking n Binance system itself but as a result of loosed @FA factor and passwords of the victim, if it were to be so, I wonder why Binance will then accept to take the entire fault on themselves.

Binance must rally have won so many people’s heart strongly and despite this, there is still no much dump in the price of Binance. Like you said, we should not think all exchanges will always be there for us when hackers steals from us through the exchange wallets, that is why we need to always keep our funds safe and very close to us in a wallet that give private keys.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: ricardobs on May 14, 2019, 06:55:28 AM
This is terrible news especially because its coming from such a reputable exchange. Its fair to say that exchanges will always be targeted and that losses will occur. As such, exchanges should offer insurance and it looks like Binance are well versed to cover this which is good to see. Ultimately most fintech companies (not just Cryptocurrency/Blockchain related) are targets to hacking/theft every day.
No ambiguity in your comments, all the companies including small scale are the targets of hackers and it is also possible to see another hacking activity in upcoming days. As if it can happen with Binance then any other exchange can also get hacked as hackers are showing super strengths. But the thing is Binance will recover this loss and all measures must be taking for the users not to leave the platform due to this.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Timmzzy on May 17, 2019, 02:11:58 PM
I could remember back last year this same incident do take place, one thing we still believe is that it doesn't concern investors with huge bags. We really need to be careful and security conscious at all times regarding our funds on Exhcangers.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: terrong on May 17, 2019, 03:55:53 PM
if it is, now is the right time to insure assets thats we have to be safe, or at least there is someone who gives us compensation when our assets are lost due to hacking or whatever, a few days ago I found one of the projects engaged in crypto insurance,
please check: https://www.inzura.world
from what I saw, this project covered several known exchanges like Binance, HitBtc, Coins and many others,
personaly i think there is not truly safe now, so we must be careful...


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: peter0425 on May 17, 2019, 04:17:25 PM
if it is, now is the right time to insure assets thats we have to be safe, or at least there is someone who gives us compensation when our assets are lost due to hacking or whatever, a few days ago I found one of the projects engaged in crypto insurance,
please check: https://www.inzura.world
from what I saw, this project covered several known exchanges like Binance, HitBtc, Coins and many others,
personaly i think there is not truly safe now, so we must be careful...
I haven't heard about this so called insurers. For me it's the responsibility of the exchanges to have at least a plan to cover in cases of funds being lost to hacks or inside job. Binance already proved that exchanges can do it with their SAFU, so I hope other exchanges will follow as well.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: ttcsalam on May 26, 2019, 06:53:43 AM
The facts are true. However, from the fact that we will have to take education for the future. But the happiness is that the company has agreed to complete this loss. I do not want those who have lost their lives in this manner.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: josephdd1 on May 26, 2019, 07:14:39 AM
if it is, now is the right time to insure assets thats we have to be safe, or at least there is someone who gives us compensation when our assets are lost due to hacking or whatever, a few days ago I found one of the projects engaged in crypto insurance,
please check: https://www.inzura.world
from what I saw, this project covered several known exchanges like Binance, HitBtc, Coins and many others,
personaly i think there is not truly safe now, so we must be careful...
I haven't heard about this so called insurers. For me it's the responsibility of the exchanges to have at least a plan to cover in cases of funds being lost to hacks or inside job. Binance already proved that exchanges can do it with their SAFU, so I hope other exchanges will follow as well.

Their SAFU?  its a Binance only thing and self regulation and self insurance is the most stupidest thing to do. Look at what  Tether did.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: travwill on May 26, 2019, 02:28:36 PM
Of course, the burglary situation is extremely unpleasant, but I don’t like how many white spots remain on this story. For example, why have 80 stolen bitcoins returned to a hot money wallet?



Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: fullhdpixel on May 28, 2019, 10:11:31 AM
if it is, now is the right time to insure assets thats we have to be safe, or at least there is someone who gives us compensation when our assets are lost due to hacking or whatever, a few days ago I found one of the projects engaged in crypto insurance,
please check: https://www.inzura.world
from what I saw, this project covered several known exchanges like Binance, HitBtc, Coins and many others,
personaly i think there is not truly safe now, so we must be careful...
I haven't heard about this so called insurers. For me it's the responsibility of the exchanges to have at least a plan to cover in cases of funds being lost to hacks or inside job. Binance already proved that exchanges can do it with their SAFU, so I hope other exchanges will follow as well.

Their SAFU?  its a Binance only thing and self regulation and self insurance is the most stupidest thing to do. Look at what  Tether did.
At least they have a self-insurance plan and better than those who doesn’t even have any form of insurance in place. Look at cryptopia, they have finally shut down simply because they have no form of insurance in place. So we should still appreciate binance for having a backup plan even if you say that it is a self-regulation, and I am glad they were able to keep to their words.

You can’t compare tether operation to that of binance, tether has never ran their business with integrity, so many opportunity they have had to proof themselves trust worthy were being block, i.e the issue of not allowing auditing, but binance has done everything possible to be transparent.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: omonuyak on May 28, 2019, 07:22:09 PM
As far as I know this fact is true. I saw the news on many websites and on Twitter it was viral. Some information is available in accordance with your link. Some of my friends account have been hacked, so I'm more concerned about the fact that it has been hacked. If Binance did not hack then my friends' dollars would not be lost. I know they had trading, so their good amount of money was in Binance but sadly, they lost all their dollars.
That is bad for those your friends but my coins were in my account when I checked after the hacked. Maybe because the amount in my wallet were not much so the Hackers did not care moving them. However, binance remains strong after the hacked and it is one of the reasons why people are building more confidence on the cryptocurrencies exchange this day and why bitcoin is increasing in price.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: OrangeSeller on May 29, 2019, 05:43:32 AM
Of course, the burglary situation is extremely unpleasant, but I don’t like how many white spots remain on this story. For example, why have 80 stolen bitcoins returned to a hot money wallet?


No doubt on one side with the growth and enhancement of technologies and arrival of new innovations especially the currency modernism hackers are also catching fire on the other side. Hackers do not follow the rules whether it is a leading exchange or not, they did not even forgive Binance. But we should think how secure these exchanges are because the ratio of hacking is very small to its security.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: mann1983 on May 29, 2019, 08:24:53 AM
Tweets around social media say that The "Hack" was a hoax. It never happened. The reality is that it was an inside job: only admins or staff have to permission to move funds! It was a move to funnel coins (BTC) from staffer's account to another.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Dontme on May 29, 2019, 12:57:14 PM
Binance been hacked and TRX`s CEO offered to cover it but binance declined it, which means binance can stand on it`s own. Binance fund it right away and no money was lost for the Binance user.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Cosbycoin on May 30, 2019, 05:18:08 AM
This is terrible news especially because its coming from such a reputable exchange. Its fair to say that exchanges will always be targeted and that losses will occur. As such, exchanges should offer insurance and it looks like Binance are well versed to cover this which is good to see. Ultimately most fintech companies (not just Cryptocurrency/Blockchain related) are targets to hacking/theft every day.
No ambiguity in your comments, all the companies including small scale are the targets of hackers and it is also possible to see another hacking activity in upcoming days. As if it can happen with Binance then any other exchange can also get hacked as hackers are showing super strengths. But the thing is Binance will recover this loss and all measures must be taking for the users not to leave the platform due to this.
Is that an assumption or a warning about a possible hack in days to come? Yeah you are right about the fact that not just crypto but so many companies are vulnerable and prone to hack. But again, the system could be updated and well shielded which could be instrumental in keeping hackers away. I think that with the passage of time, some thing will pop up that will be instrumental in keeping these exchanges and sites secured.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Remainder on May 30, 2019, 06:52:15 AM
Binance been hacked and TRX`s CEO offered to cover it but binance declined it, which means binance can stand on it`s own.

I don't hear this news, what I know was the hacked is covered by the insurance of the SAFU funds.
You should provide a source of information, it's just unbelievable that TRX 's CEO will cover the 7,074 BTC which is already a huge amount of money.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: mann1983 on May 30, 2019, 08:27:12 AM
Exactly .. cause binance claims to be the most secured network and the exchange getting hacked in nearly shocking
cause even in 2018 the exchange got hacked and now in 2019 once again


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Kiweikoo on May 31, 2019, 04:52:50 AM
Tweets around social media say that The "Hack" was a hoax. It never happened. The reality is that it was an inside job: only admins or staff have to permission to move funds! It was a move to funnel coins (BTC) from staffer's account to another.
Don’t believe in such controversies after such happenings especially the one happened with Binance because most of them are 90% wrong. People start making ambiguities by spreading such nonsense which is a direct effect on the fame and reputation of that company, in case of crypto it happened with exchange that is Binance. It is no doubt a big loss but is a blessing as they will 2x their security now.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: mann1983 on May 31, 2019, 09:01:40 AM
Still people have lost their trust in Binance now ..
I am just waiting for a clear picture and maybe some time till things are more transparent


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: RealMalatesta on May 31, 2019, 09:43:45 AM
Of course, the burglary situation is extremely unpleasant, but I don’t like how many white spots remain on this story. For example, why have 80 stolen bitcoins returned to a hot money wallet?


No doubt on one side with the growth and enhancement of technologies and arrival of new innovations especially the currency modernism hackers are also catching fire on the other side. Hackers do not follow the rules whether it is a leading exchange or not, they did not even forgive Binance. But we should think how secure these exchanges are because the ratio of hacking is very small to its security.
If binance was that loosed, then it would have been long that they will record this hacking history, those hackers must have been trying breaking into binance system for a long time without succeeding until probably they were able to crack the wall. Like you said, these hackers too are upgrading and they don’t rest, some of them are even professional hackers, which is what they really studied.

So dealing with them is not really easy and people should stop blaming some of them as if they themselves will not fail if they were in their shoes. Binance has seen their mistake now and I believe they have also learnt from it for better security.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: mann1983 on June 08, 2019, 07:35:55 AM
what about a single disk failure that brought Binance offline today?


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Nhebu on June 08, 2019, 01:29:08 PM
From the same link you posted above:

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Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.
That is how I love binance. They are always keeping their investors and traders safe and secured. However, why they let the hackers intercept their system easily? I thought binance is one of the strongest exchange nowadays. If ever it will be totally hacked, they might lose the trust of the people. They need to protect their customers unless they will be disrupted.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: milewilda on June 08, 2019, 01:52:40 PM
what about a single disk failure that brought Binance offline today?

You mean this update? https://twitter.com/binance/status/1137110915713622016

I didnt even expect on having a single disk failure on Binance.I feel like we're on 1990's. lol


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Noversetied on June 08, 2019, 02:56:54 PM
I have kept a few coins on the binance trading , and have not logged in for a long time. binance is a big exchange but still hacked, which shows that everything is not safe for investors


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Pipdips on June 08, 2019, 05:02:21 PM
what about a single disk failure that brought Binance offline today?

Can you provide a link for us to read more information about that issue?


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: TryNinja on June 08, 2019, 09:44:27 PM
Can you provide a link for us to read more information about that issue?
2 posts before yours...

https://twitter.com/binance/status/1137110915713622016

More:
https://twitter.com/heyibinance/status/1137110849015885824
https://www.binance.com/en/support/articles/360029309971-Binance-System-Maintenance-Complete


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: illyiller on June 08, 2019, 10:44:38 PM
2 posts before yours...

https://twitter.com/binance/status/1137110915713622016

More:
https://twitter.com/heyibinance/status/1137110849015885824
https://www.binance.com/en/support/articles/360029309971-Binance-System-Maintenance-Complete

Any thoughts on their announcement? Does it seem fishy to you? Some people seem pretty skeptical that a "disk failure" would bring them down for hours like that. I'm not too knowledgeable on the technical aspects, though. Cross-posting from another thread:

I don't think we really know the full story and we may never really know.  But the issue is about respecting your customer base. 

We are not stupid.  Crypto traders and miners are some of the smartest people in the world. 

Unless the disc failure was caused by an intruder or deactivated by an Intrusion Detection System (IDS) there was no reason for the site to be shut down like that. 


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: TryNinja on June 08, 2019, 11:26:57 PM
Any thoughts on their announcement? Does it seem fishy to you? Some people seem pretty skeptical that a "disk failure" would bring them down for hours like that. I'm not too knowledgeable on the technical aspects, though. Cross-posting from another thread:
The disk (or server associated with it) was probably an essential part of their system. Looks like the website was up, but trades weren't going through. It looks plausible for me, so I'm not going to grab my tin foil hat for that. What else could have happened? Some people are saying some "hacker" did that, but why? And if funds are #safu, why does it matter?


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: figmentofmyass on June 09, 2019, 05:21:29 AM
The disk (or server associated with it) was probably an essential part of their system. Looks like the website was up, but trades weren't going through. It looks plausible for me, so I'm not going to grab my tin foil hat for that. What else could have happened? Some people are saying some "hacker" did that, but why? And if funds are #safu, why does it matter?

paranoia from last month's hack i presume. everybody's still on their toes. i guess some people are speculating that an "intruder" in their system was detected which prompted the site being taken offline. people are probably worried that if the site is compromised again so soon, the insurance fund binance set up will have been depleted, leading to account haircuts.

i won't lie, my heart jumped a bit when i saw threads about this. it wouldn't kill me to lose what's in my binance account, but it would certainly sting.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Pipdips on June 10, 2019, 03:07:47 PM
https://www.binance.com/en/support/articles/360029309971-Binance-System-Maintenance-Complete

I have had funds parked at Binance for a few years now and none of my funds were ever stolen or hacked. However, today I withdrew all of my funds out of Binance. It was all sent to my cold storage wallet. I am taking a break from having my funds unprotected.

Is Binance is heating up?


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: AngellSky on June 11, 2019, 06:08:57 PM
Already a very long period, the trading platform has been valued due to its security, but today binance is again under question and I am not sure about the safety of my funds on this trading platform.  I do not want to think about it, but in such situations I want to lengthen only the administration, which is either involved in all this and has produced its activities to the fact that there was a data leak.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: exstasie on June 11, 2019, 08:51:37 PM
I have had funds parked at Binance for a few years now and none of my funds were ever stolen or hacked. However, today I withdrew all of my funds out of Binance. It was all sent to my cold storage wallet. I am taking a break from having my funds unprotected.

Is Binance is heating up?

You just never know. After Bitstamp and Bitfinex got hacked years ago, they never had a large scale compromise again. I'm hoping that applies to Binance as well. At the same time, they must have a huge target on their back given the number and size of their markets, and the fact that they are crypto-only.

I've lowered my exposure since the hack. I'm looking forward to seeing margin trading rolled out on Binance so I can keep even less funds there.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Oilacris on June 11, 2019, 10:58:38 PM
I have had funds parked at Binance for a few years now and none of my funds were ever stolen or hacked. However, today I withdrew all of my funds out of Binance. It was all sent to my cold storage wallet. I am taking a break from having my funds unprotected.

Is Binance is heating up?

You just never know. After Bitstamp and Bitfinex got hacked years ago, they never had a large scale compromise again. I'm hoping that applies to Binance as well. At the same time, they must have a huge target on their back given the number and size of their markets, and the fact that they are crypto-only.

I've lowered my exposure since the hack. I'm looking forward to seeing margin trading rolled out on Binance so I can keep even less funds there.
No one would even know on what would happen next but its better to be safe that sorry specially for those people who do

mostly keep majority of their holding on their exchange account.It might not hurt for others but it would be an another case to anyone.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: binhvo1505 on June 12, 2019, 04:56:50 AM
From the same link you posted above:

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Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.

In as much that their security has been breached, people are not concerned  about them using SAFU fund to cover the funds stolen. People will be withdrawing all their coins from their platform to keep their funds safe from any future hacks. Its quite surprising to see Binance been hacked with all their security measures and protocols.
Their protocols and security systems are great. and CZ said the reason why their security system was broken, was because at press conferences, they talked about their security system and that created an opportunity for hackers to invade easier access to the system. This is really an unexpected incident, but fortunately the price of BNB dropped only 5% at the time and it rose back to $ 33.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: numanoid on June 12, 2019, 05:52:58 AM
Already a very long period, the trading platform has been valued due to its security, but today binance is again under question and I am not sure about the safety of my funds on this trading platform.
Today? This was happened a month ago.
If your funds is including 7k btc which got stolen by hacker, you will get your money back because binance has said they will pay from their own pocket.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/techcrunch.com/2019/05/15/binance-resumes-trading-following-40m-bitcoin-hack/amp/
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  I do not want to think about it, but in such situations I want to lengthen only the administration, which is either involved in all this and has produced its activities to the fact that there was a data leak.

Why the heck admin want to steal their own customer's money? Doesn't make any sense


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: guoyu78 on June 12, 2019, 10:59:10 AM
I have kept a few coins on the binance trading , and have not logged in for a long time. binance is a big exchange but still hacked, which shows that everything is not safe for investors
Cryptocurrency investment is generally 80% safe provided we choose the right projects, but in this scenario of Binancehacking, what is not safe is keeping money on exchanges and not everything is cryptocurrency as you think, and if there is anyone to be blamed for this, all blames goes to investors and people like you who have failed to understand that it is not safe to keep funds on exchanges wallet other than our personal wallets, and when the whole thing happens, we will start blaming exchanges, when it was our own personal decision and no exchanges ever imposed it on us. I will advise you log on to your account and move your coins to a private wallet.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: sana54210 on June 12, 2019, 11:02:39 AM
The disk (or server associated with it) was probably an essential part of their system. Looks like the website was up, but trades weren't going through. It looks plausible for me, so I'm not going to grab my tin foil hat for that. What else could have happened? Some people are saying some "hacker" did that, but why? And if funds are #safu, why does it matter?

paranoia from last month's hack i presume. everybody's still on their toes. i guess some people are speculating that an "intruder" in their system was detected which prompted the site being taken offline. people are probably worried that if the site is compromised again so soon, the insurance fund binance set up will have been depleted, leading to account haircuts.

i won't lie, my heart jumped a bit when i saw threads about this. it wouldn't kill me to lose what's in my binance account, but it would certainly sting.
I was very shocked when I heard the news of Binance being hacked, and there was a coincidence at that time, I was just having some discussions with my friends and we were discussing on some exchanges that they use, they all mentioned there exchanges and I also mentioned mine which was Binance.

We discussed about security and almost got into heated argument when I made a statement that hackers may hack all other exchanges, but it will be impossible for them to hack Binance even in 100 year’s time, while my friend mentioned one exchange as DOBI being the most secured exchange, the following day of our argument was when I heard that Binance was hacked, I was dumbfounded and could even face my fiends again.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: CryptoPowerL on June 12, 2019, 11:12:24 AM
I used to think that the big stock exchanges were protected from hacking, but I was wrong. This is very sad. I only keep my coins in my wallets. Even large companies with years of experience can make mistakes.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: leea-1334 on June 12, 2019, 02:00:44 PM
I do not want to think about it, but in such situations I want to lengthen only the administration, which is either involved in all this and has produced its activities to the fact that there was a data leak.

Why the heck admin want to steal their own customer's money? Doesn't make any sense

I do not enjoy speculating to be honest,,, especially with unfortunate events and accidents, but I have to say that whenever it involves money, you can never ever rule out anything. If you can remove possibilities one by one and sometimes the only thing left is to say that a business stole customer money, then that is possible.

Look at the punishment of exchange managers who have been found guilty by courts of losing money. Mt Gox for example.

He did a huge crime and we still never know if he stole it or not. He did not even go to jail. Paid fines, community work and then can start new businesses.

It makes perfect sense for admins to steal customer money they do it all the time,,, are you new to crypto? Are you new to business?


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: ryzaadit on June 12, 2019, 02:05:11 PM
I used to think that the big stock exchanges were protected from hacking, but I was wrong. This is very sad. I only keep my coins in my wallets. Even large companies with years of experience can make mistakes.
The customer of binance just lucky because binance have "SAFU". You got a wrong point, the hacker will always attack the third parties like exchange service / hot wallet the best option to keep your asset on your personal wallet because the hacker cant makes the attack attemp at the blockchain.

"No system it's safe"
That's why the service will always get maintenance if the security already perfect no need to maintenance again the system.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Xampeuu on June 12, 2019, 02:31:18 PM
I used to think that the big stock exchanges were protected from hacking, but I was wrong. This is very sad. I only keep my coins in my wallets. Even large companies with years of experience can make mistakes.
The customer of binance just lucky because binance have "SAFU". You got a wrong point, the hacker will always attack the third parties like exchange service / hot wallet the best option to keep your asset on your personal wallet because the hacker cant makes the attack attemp at the blockchain.

"No system it's safe"
That's why the service will always get maintenance if the security already perfect no need to maintenance again the system.
see your comments, I remember, which still has assets in the exchange. at that time after reading the news I immediately rushed to divert assets to the personal wallet, frankly afraid too. but that turned out to have no significant effect on the market


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Tungsten-1 on June 12, 2019, 06:06:56 PM
I used to think that the big stock exchanges were protected from hacking, but I was wrong. This is very sad. I only keep my coins in my wallets. Even large companies with years of experience can make mistakes.
Well it is like you are saying that the best fiat deflationary or in other words, fiat cannot inflate. The crypto world is a digital world and these digital exchanges do have security and some tight arrangement to prevent the hacks but there are many ways that the security barrier of an exchange could be decoded and that opens a door for the hacker to get into your wallet. However Binance is protected now.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: numanoid on June 14, 2019, 05:16:51 AM
are you new to crypto?
No.

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Are you new to business?
No.



Are you new in binance? Did you ever deposited and traded on there?

P.S i'm talking about binance's admin on here actually. I don't care with others


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Pipdips on June 14, 2019, 02:40:55 PM
The customer of binance just lucky because binance have "SAFU".

If Binance gets hacked again, how much will their Secure Asset Fund for Users (SAFU) cover? Will it cover everything stolen just like last time? I'd like more information about Binance in the event of another hack.

I stopped trading a several days ago after moving all my funds out of Binance into cold storage.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Pom_bensin on June 14, 2019, 03:58:12 PM
I used to think that the big stock exchanges were protected from hacking, but I was wrong. This is very sad. I only keep my coins in my wallets. Even large companies with years of experience can make mistakes.
sometimes as much as any company still has a gap for hackers to enter, I talk to many IT expert friends that large companies still have weaknesses and that must be made changes to the system in the company.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: TryNinja on June 14, 2019, 04:24:37 PM
If Binance gets hacked again, how much will their Secure Asset Fund for Users (SAFU) cover? Will it cover everything stolen just like last time? I'd like more information about Binance in the event of another hack.
Eveything or at least the amount they can cover with the SAFU (increases every day with 10% of what they receive from trading fees).

To protect the future interests of all users, Binance will create a Secure Asset Fund for Users (SAFU). Starting from 2018/07/14, we will allocate 10% of all trading fees received into SAFU to offer protection to our users and their funds in extreme cases. This fund will be stored in a separate cold wallet.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: superstarbtc on June 14, 2019, 04:40:22 PM
I used to think that the big stock exchanges were protected from hacking, but I was wrong. This is very sad. I only keep my coins in my wallets. Even large companies with years of experience can make mistakes.
sometimes as much as any company still has a gap for hackers to enter, I talk to many IT expert friends that large companies still have weaknesses and that must be made changes to the system in the company.

Hackers main target is to find the weakness and they will traces that weakness it will help them to steal the money. Even though it has a good reputation, we need to face some challenges at one stage. So we need to be very careful with the hackers.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Eildosa on June 14, 2019, 05:01:01 PM
Despite the fact that it was hacked, people still continue to trade on this exchange. This speaks to its great reputation among traders and professional team who were able to quickly resolve the issue without compromising its users.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Pipdips on June 14, 2019, 05:12:24 PM
Despite the fact that it was hacked, people still continue to trade on this exchange. This speaks to its great reputation among traders and professional team who were able to quickly resolve the issue without compromising its users.

I agree with this. Also I think that there was nothing fishy about the recent hack. It was probably not an inside job like some people suggested. It was just hackers.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: exstasie on June 14, 2019, 07:43:35 PM
The customer of binance just lucky because binance have "SAFU".

If Binance gets hacked again, how much will their Secure Asset Fund for Users (SAFU) cover? Will it cover everything stolen just like last time? I'd like more information about Binance in the event of another hack.

Someone ran some numbers after the hack: https://twitter.com/lawmaster/status/1126090906908676096

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$41M is peanuts for Binance - they can make it back in 47 days

CZ confirmed in the next post the numbers were accurate. In a couple more weeks, Binance will have fully recovered the losses. He also said the hot wallet only contains 2% of total funds. In most cases, that will be the maximum risk exposure.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: logicgate on June 14, 2019, 11:46:20 PM
The customer of binance just lucky because binance have "SAFU".

If Binance gets hacked again, how much will their Secure Asset Fund for Users (SAFU) cover? Will it cover everything stolen just like last time? I'd like more information about Binance in the event of another hack.

I stopped trading a several days ago after moving all my funds out of Binance into cold storage.
 It is not bad to have your funds stored in the cold storage. That is way too safe and without a risk but make sure you do not lose your USB stick or the device you have stored your Bitcoins or any other coins. As far as the question about whether it would be able to cover the loss again or not is concerned, I think it will depends on their SAFU. But they are back strong this time.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: bitgolden on June 15, 2019, 05:34:43 AM
From the same link you posted above:

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Binance will use the #SAFU fund to cover this incident in full. No user funds will be affected.

In as much that their security has been breached, people are not concerned  about them using SAFU fund to cover the funds stolen. People will be withdrawing all their coins from their platform to keep their funds safe from any future hacks. Its quite surprising to see Binance been hacked with all their security measures and protocols.
Their protocols and security systems are great. and CZ said the reason why their security system was broken, was because at press conferences, they talked about their security system and that created an opportunity for hackers to invade easier access to the system. This is really an unexpected incident, but fortunately the price of BNB dropped only 5% at the time and it rose back to $ 33.
LOL, talking too much is bad, I think CZ just need to calm down like satoshi, he already has an established system that is speaking louder than words, he doesn’t need to defend anything again in pubic or try to convince people again, all he needs to do is continue to take time to continue coming up with various strategies.

All the same, I was really impressed with their speedy recovery and I a very sure things has been put in position now in other to avoid future occurrences, people will really not find it funny or forgiving again if they are hit the second time by these scammers which I totally believe will never happen again.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Aivaryamal on June 15, 2019, 08:51:05 AM
On the one hand, this is a good example of how you need to take care of your funds and not store everything in one place and naturally leads to the creation of more reliable decentralized exchangers


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: sana54210 on June 18, 2019, 05:57:14 AM
Despite the fact that it was hacked, people still continue to trade on this exchange. This speaks to its great reputation among traders and professional team who were able to quickly resolve the issue without compromising its users.

I agree with this. Also I think that there was nothing fishy about the recent hack. It was probably not an inside job like some people suggested. It was just hackers.
At first, I also thought it was an inside job, because I believe it will be impossible for a great compare like Binance with strong security to be hacked, but after looking at it deeply from different angle too, I see that it is purely an external hackers. They have really tightened their security protocols now, and has assured every of its believers of such issue not occurring again.

Binance even became stronger and more reliable after the attack was down, as they had worked down vigorously for the future prior to the time they got struck. I never attempted to withdraw my funds though which I believe that many people didn’t too which is why we didn’t see any negative movement in the price of BNB then.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Pipdips on June 18, 2019, 03:01:44 PM
Binance is a bank. The currency exchange is their store front.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: yvesp110 on June 19, 2019, 12:00:30 AM
Despite the fact that it was hacked, people still continue to trade on this exchange. This speaks to its great reputation among traders and professional team who were able to quickly resolve the issue without compromising its users.

I agree with this. Also I think that there was nothing fishy about the recent hack. It was probably not an inside job like some people suggested. It was just hackers.
At first, I also thought it was an inside job, because I believe it will be impossible for a great compare like Binance with strong security to be hacked, but after looking at it deeply from different angle too, I see that it is purely an external hackers. They have really tightened their security protocols now, and has assured every of its believers of such issue not occurring again.

Binance even became stronger and more reliable after the attack was down, as they had worked down vigorously for the future prior to the time they got struck. I never attempted to withdraw my funds though which I believe that many people didn’t too which is why we didn’t see any negative movement in the price of BNB then.
Well yeah you have to admit that it was a security failure and that Binance had this weak zone which was exploited by the hacker and that was how they broke into the wallets. But the security system could be improved and in order to keep things on a safe side, Binance is back with some string plans and looks like the hack never affected the exchange for they are again launching many new IEOs and a current stable coin.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: Free1bitco.in on June 19, 2019, 05:53:48 AM
On the one hand, this is a good example of how you need to take care of your funds and not store everything in one place and naturally leads to the creation of more reliable decentralized exchangers
well, it can be said that binance is very professional in handling this. something like this is needed by another exchanger. most exchangers are very difficult to develop after being hacked, and even people are starting to doubt it. but, I think binary trust is increasing.


Title: Re: Binance Has Been Hacked - Lost 7,074 BTC
Post by: davinchi on June 25, 2019, 05:26:49 AM
Despite the fact that it was hacked, people still continue to trade on this exchange. This speaks to its great reputation among traders and professional team who were able to quickly resolve the issue without compromising its users.

I agree with this. Also I think that there was nothing fishy about the recent hack. It was probably not an inside job like some people suggested. It was just hackers.
At first, I also thought it was an inside job, because I believe it will be impossible for a great compare like Binance with strong security to be hacked, but after looking at it deeply from different angle too, I see that it is purely an external hackers. They have really tightened their security protocols now, and has assured every of its believers of such issue not occurring again.

Binance even became stronger and more reliable after the attack was down, as they had worked down vigorously for the future prior to the time they got struck. I never attempted to withdraw my funds though which I believe that many people didn’t too which is why we didn’t see any negative movement in the price of BNB then.
Well yeah you have to admit that it was a security failure and that Binance had this weak zone which was exploited by the hacker and that was how they broke into the wallets. But the security system could be improved and in order to keep things on a safe side, Binance is back with some string plans and looks like the hack never affected the exchange for they are again launching many new IEOs and a current stable coin.
With that bad experience, I am confident that binance will take full responsibility of what erring all about. As showed trustworthy for their customers, binance will handle all misalignment with respect to security of the funds that's probably victim of possible attacks. I know they won't let this happen again, and I believed that they'll make more barriers in order to make their exchange site more safer than before.
They already took full responsibility for their actions and has already done necessary amendment where necessary, I believe they were hit because some people needed to shut them up which is not going to happen. Binance has made so many of its user, investors and traders so happy by giving them a satisfying services that can never be questioned, and no one will abandon them because of the issue like they did to other exchanges like cryptopia.

It is good to build a good relationship with one’s clients, it is because of the relationship and trust Binance had built with its customers, that also made them to stand by Binance and I believe such will never be repeated again too.