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Bitcoin => Legal => Topic started by: Joe200 on March 13, 2014, 03:07:22 PM



Title: US taxes- software to figure out capital gains
Post by: Joe200 on March 13, 2014, 03:07:22 PM
So a few lawyers think that profits / losses from trading bitcoins should be treated as capital gains for taxation purposes.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1uccfz/i_am_a_tax_attorney_here_are_my_answers_to_the/
http://www.bitcointax.info/

Is this the "consensus" opinion?

Is there open source software to figure out the long-term / short-term capital gains / losses?


Title: Re: US taxes- software to figure out capital gains
Post by: bitcointaxes on March 13, 2014, 07:06:57 PM

Is there open source software to figure out the long-term / short-term capital gains / losses?


https://bitcointaxes.info (https://bitcointaxes.info)

  • imports trade history from MtGox, Coinbase, Bitstamp, BTC-e, Cryptsy, Bitfinex, Bitfloor, CampBX, LocalBitcoins
  • manual entry of trades
  • import/add cost basis for coins owned in 2012 or earlier
  • calculates short / long term capital gains
  • uses First-In-First-Out, average costing or "specific identification" (e.g. Last-In-First-Out)
  • exports data ready to enter on Schedule D Form 8949
  • exports TurboTax and TaxACT import data
  • multi-year support for traders before 2013
  • multi-currency support for your tax country: USD, GBP, EUR, CAD, AUD
  • calculates gains for alt-coin and cross-coin trading
  • shows closing positions balances and cost basis for next year
  • tax estimate calculations for US tax payers
  • free version for unlimited BTC trades and premium for alt-coins/multi-year

Coming soon:
  • support for UK, Canada, Australia, Germany tax rules
  • current year gain and tax liabilities
  • maintain purchase records from coin addresses
  • mining income calculators

If you are doing your own taxes, it would make sense to treat bitcoins / alt-coins as capital assets. Although I have read some accountants are filing as a currency but more so they can maximize the amount of taxes paid, to ensure their clients do not underpay. However, if you only have short term gains, you will be paying the maximum anyway.



Title: Re: US taxes- software to figure out capital gains
Post by: maurya78 on March 25, 2014, 07:14:25 AM
You gotta love countries like Germany that treat btc like a commodity exempting it from cap gains tax for holding periods in excess of 12 months


Title: Re: US taxes- software to figure out capital gains
Post by: AK0490 on April 01, 2014, 04:37:26 AM

Is there open source software to figure out the long-term / short-term capital gains / losses?


https://bitcointaxes.info (https://bitcointaxes.info)

  • imports trade history from MtGox, Coinbase, Bitstamp, BTC-e, Cryptsy, Bitfinex, Bitfloor, CampBX, LocalBitcoins
  • manual entry of trades
  • import/add cost basis for coins owned in 2012 or earlier
  • calculates short / long term capital gains
  • uses First-In-First-Out, average costing or "specific identification" (e.g. Last-In-First-Out)
  • exports data ready to enter on Schedule D Form 8949
  • exports TurboTax and TaxACT import data
  • multi-year support for traders before 2013
  • multi-currency support for your tax country: USD, GBP, EUR, CAD, AUD
  • calculates gains for alt-coin and cross-coin trading
  • shows closing positions balances and cost basis for next year
  • tax estimate calculations for US tax payers
  • free version for unlimited BTC trades and premium for alt-coins/multi-year

Coming soon:
  • support for UK, Canada, Australia, Germany tax rules
  • current year gain and tax liabilities
  • maintain purchase records from coin addresses
  • mining income calculators

If you are doing your own taxes, it would make sense to treat bitcoins / alt-coins as capital assets. Although I have read some accountants are filing as a currency but more so they can maximize the amount of taxes paid, to ensure their clients do not underpay. However, if you only have short term gains, you will be paying the maximum anyway.



I have premium and it looks great. Now when can I add my transaction history from wallets and get there value at the time mined? Pretty please?


Title: Re: US taxes- software to figure out capital gains
Post by: bitcointaxes on April 01, 2014, 04:55:19 AM
I have premium and it looks great. Now when can I add my transaction history from wallets and get there value at the time mined? Pretty please?

I am literally working on it...but can't say it's going to be in before tax day, aiming for end April.


Title: Re: US taxes- software to figure out capital gains
Post by: AK0490 on April 01, 2014, 05:09:23 AM
I have premium and it looks great. Now when can I add my transaction history from wallets and get there value at the time mined? Pretty please?

I am literally working on it...but can't say it's going to be in before tax day, aiming for end April.

Great to hear! So with an extension we might get one site that can do almost everything we need. Will definitely donate more if this allows me to file my taxes with only a few  headaches.  ;)