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Title: What satoshi wrote?
Post by: coinlocket$ on May 09, 2019, 05:12:19 PM
Hello, I'm doing personal research on Satoshi.

Apart the whitepaper for the bitcoin has he published any other file written by itself? (I'm not interested about posts on the forums but on pdf word txt trf etc files)


Title: Re: What satoshi wrote?
Post by: pawanjain on May 09, 2019, 05:59:45 PM
This post contains almost everything that Satoshi ever posted on the online community. If it's not here then it's probably nowhere else.
I don't think there is anything else other than a whitepaper, a code, emails and many posts that Satoshi posted on the internet.

Refer:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138181.msg50866546#msg50866546


Title: Re: What satoshi wrote?
Post by: Heisenberg_Hunter on May 09, 2019, 07:28:51 PM
Since you aren't really asking about the forum posts and the commonly available mails spread all over the internet, there was only one single pdf file "pre-whitepaper draft" written by satoshi himself. Apart from the code files and the now available whitepaper, there was a pre-whitepaper prior to the one which is present now.

satoshi first appeared on the internet on August 22,2008 when he sent a mail to wei dai discussing about his e-cash pre-release draft. The pre-whitepaper draft was very much different from the one which is available now and significantly changes were made in the final version of the whitepaper and was published by satoshi in the cryptography mailing list. An abstract from the ecash.pdf file

Quote from: satoshi
Title: Electronic Cash Without a Trusted Third Party

Abstract: A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without the burdens of going through a financial institution.  Digital signatures offer part of the solution, but the main benefits are lost if a trusted party is still required to prevent double-spending.  We propose a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer network.  The network timestamps transactions by hashing them into an ongoing chain of hash-based proof-of-work, forming a record that cannot be changed without redoing the proof-of-work.  The longest chain not only serves as proof of the sequence of events witnessed, but proof that it came from the largest pool of CPU power.  As long as honest nodes control the most CPU power on the network, they can generate the longest chain and outpace any attackers.  The network itself requires minimal structure.  Messages are broadcasted on a best effort basis, and nodes can leave and rejoin the network at will, accepting the longest proof-of-work chain as proof of what happened while they were gone.

The file was available for download at http://www.upload.ae/file/6157/ecash-pdf.html once. But currently, it isn't available. We need to reach out an early adopter and check with them if this file is present still.  :(

Similarly Hal was the one to share with us the early 2008 code. The code was very much different from the January Bitcoin 0.1 Code.


Title: Re: What satoshi wrote?
Post by: coinlocket$ on May 10, 2019, 09:35:59 AM


The file was available for download at http://www.upload.ae/file/6157/ecash-pdf.html once. But currently, it isn't available. We need to reach out an early adopter and check with them if this file is present still.  :(

Similarly Hal was the one to share with us the early 2008 code. The code was very much different from the January Bitcoin 0.1 Code.

If you can find a link to the file please post here or send a PM!

This post contains almost everything that Satoshi ever posted on the online community. If it's not here then it's probably nowhere else.
I don't think there is anything else other than a whitepaper, a code, emails and many posts that Satoshi posted on the internet.

Refer:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138181.msg50866546#msg50866546

Already seen the website on the past. And have no direct link to other files.


Title: Re: What satoshi wrote?
Post by: yazher on May 10, 2019, 09:48:05 AM
The Complete Satoshi Nakamoto (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138181.0) I think this is what you looking for.


Title: Re: What satoshi wrote?
Post by: Heisenberg_Hunter on May 10, 2019, 11:59:06 AM
If you can find a link to the file please post here or send a PM!
There are no available copies for the file right now. People contacted Adam Back, gmaxwell, wei dai and other few prominent crypto nerds but none of them had the file with them. Currently the only available text is the abstract written by satoshi. Hal would have had a copy but didn't respond to that back in 2014 considering his health was so bad.

That was a private mail between dai and satoshi, so if satoshi had distributed the copies to others they should have them probably. But the possibilities are too low since they were 10 years back and the was not of much historical importance and weren't brought to light till 2014-15 (not sure of this).

EDIT :

Found this: https://draftable.com/compare/rCuIgdwzImUI
Thanks. Never thought this would exist. I was searching for this for a long time.


Title: Re: What satoshi wrote?
Post by: DdmrDdmr on May 10, 2019, 12:01:11 PM
<...>If you can find a link to the file please post here or send a PM!<...>
Found this: https://draftable.com/compare/rCuIgdwzImUI

The URL seams clean, and it compares the draft to the released version, showing the differences quite clearly. It may be wise to verify that the compared versions are solid though - there is no date/timestamp.

Edit: This site seems to point to the same differences between draft and released version: https://www.gwern.net/docs/bitcoin/2008-nakamoto#


Title: Re: What satoshi wrote?
Post by: coinlocket$ on May 10, 2019, 01:34:34 PM
<...>If you can find a link to the file please post here or send a PM!<...>
Found this: https://draftable.com/compare/rCuIgdwzImUI

The URL seams clean, and it compares the draft to the released version, showing the differences quite clearly. It may be wise to verify that the compared versions are solid though - there is no date/timestamp.

Edit: This site seems to point to the same differences between draft and released version: https://www.gwern.net/docs/bitcoin/2008-nakamoto#

So besides the whitepaper of a version of the whitepaper don't we have any other file uploaded and written directly by Satoshi? (As far we can know)

Anything about nodes, halving, mining or any other aspect outside the whitepaper?


Title: Re: What satoshi wrote?
Post by: Last of the V8s on May 10, 2019, 03:11:05 PM
Still not quite what you're asking for, I don't think he's known for great reams of files, but there are some pearls of his in the comments to his code
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/4405b78d6059e536c36974088a8ed4d9f0f29898
eg https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/4405b78d6059e536c36974088a8ed4d9f0f29898/net.cpp#L260


Title: Re: What satoshi wrote?
Post by: coinlocket$ on May 10, 2019, 04:25:12 PM
Still not quite what you're asking for

I'm on middle of something can't share what for now 👀.
Ty for your contributions keep going if you have something.